I still consider this era of superbike as still modern, yet it's ten years ago. How time flies.
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
Scary!
@muscleandimports7 ай бұрын
This was pretty much the golden era for motorcycles in my opinion. So many greats produced during this period.
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
Absolutely 👍
@djmorgan8237 ай бұрын
2000 to 2008 was the magic years, the world fell into recession in 2008 and bike development suffered massively after 2008, with most manufacturers doing very little from 2008, the fireblade went from 2008 to 2016 with very little development, the r1 from 2009 to 2015 was hardly developed, it took until around 2015 for the majority of manufacturers to finally put resources into development and by that time the electronics age was well and truly upon us.
@muscleandimports7 ай бұрын
@@djmorgan823 those were great years too. My favorites are the k6 gsxr 1000, k7 750, and '07 fireblade. Aside from that, we got the famed s1000rr in '09/'10 which has a reputation that rightfully precedes it. HP4 and HP4 race coming along after it. We got the panigale (and amazing corresponding superleggera) series from ducati. We got the supercharged H2. Some of the most notable favorites from the 2010s. And as you say, it took around 2015 for bigger and more mainstream developments to come along, which is right around the time of this video. I think we can agree then, that 2005-2020 has been the true golden age for motorcycles.
@benchaggaresmusic7 ай бұрын
My dad's got an 1199 Tricolore and there's just something about that bike that makes me so much more excited than the Japanese counterparts. I love all bikes, the Blades, GSXR's, R1's, and ZX10R's are all amazing bikes, but the Tricolore is so much more emotional to be around
@FR3DFR0ST7 ай бұрын
Would be great to have a "second hand" used superbike test on bikes now under 10k with 10k or under milage to go along with them everyone picked their own steed and off you go, be good to see where they are at in present day & where they'd sit among the current gens. A test of time! Keep up the good work!
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
Good idea!
@SteveSeadog7 ай бұрын
So pleased to see this vid pop-up. Last year I spotted a 2014 Fireblade (not the SP) in HRC colours with 3,500 miles on the clock and in excellent all round condition. I knew in my head that I shouldn't buy it, but my heart won-out a couple of weeks later. It's got way more power than I can handle and it's bloody uncomfortable on long rides, but I absolutely love it.
@robertwilson59497 ай бұрын
Sales may be down but superbikes are now better than ever. There is a bike for every possible use or personal taste and nearly all of today’s bikes have more tech and development than those of yesteryear. MCN, 44 Teeth and channels like yours are even more important than ever as you are able to quantify the development and cut thru the manufacture’s propaganda! Thank you!
@ayowser015 ай бұрын
This was the last year of the analog fireblade, and the first year Honda offered an SP model; love mine ❤
@benrideout95837 ай бұрын
I would love Suzuki to make a special limited edition gsxr 1000 that’s basically a k5 with the latest generation vvt engine in it. 200 hp, zero electronics, Brembo brake set up with no ABS an old school needle dash and a classic blue and white paint scheme. Just imagine what a boss bike that would be! It would obviously have to have a yoshi exhaust. Just take my money
@rxl-soul85147 ай бұрын
Damn you for putting this thought in my head the k5/6 was a monster then still a monster now and imagining that with the current vvt engine inside jesus christ yes please
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
Sounds like an awesome rebuild project. Give Suzuki a call on the engine and find a K5/K6 in need of some love and the project is on!
@macstheking7 ай бұрын
I had red 2015 aprila rsv4 r aprc and it was amazing. (I wish they would go back to solid colors, I think all the new paint jobs are pretty ugly). Amazing engine and sound. When I took it on track I loved how planted it felt, and the way it seemed to hunker down to the asphalt on corner entry and mid corner. The only problem was corner exit. It was the lack of feel from the rear you got when gettin on the gas made me feel uneasy at times and the crude electronics didn’t do much to alleviate this. Last year I finally totaled it when I got on full throttle leaning too much thru a corner and chucked it off the track going 115mph (Spent a few nights in the hospital for 4 compression fractures in my spine). I still miss and love that bike as it was my first ever dream bike
@uksurfer25056 ай бұрын
This was the most interesting bike video. Thank you ❤
@nickmurray7217 ай бұрын
My ohlins suspended non ABS and remapped 2012 Zx10r is more than enough for me!!!
@chrisweidl84567 ай бұрын
You celebrate the “revolution” the European manufactures brought versus the evolution of the Japanese, but that also brought a “REVOLUTION “ in price increases. Those huge changes brought us the 20 grand superbike.
@AJDestroya7 ай бұрын
This is tempting me to buy a used Blade, 2014/15, used prices a bit bonkers tho!
@andrewlucas62147 ай бұрын
Great look back at the bikes we lusted after. My favorite was the Aprilia. Loved the wsb colours of biaggi and guintoli.. It was like a moto gp bike for the road. I ended up with a Tuono and guintoli replica lid .
@branthurley22856 ай бұрын
Don't believe those who say nostalgia isn't what it used to be.😉Super content, ta.
@paulking80557 ай бұрын
Hello Michael, I remember that Route Napoleon test in MCN. Sadly there is nothing much in MCN these days for me and in fact after more than 30 years I've stopped buying MCN this year. I've had my "Adventure" bike time, rode my XT660R 44,000 miles around the world including the Trans America trail over 2 years away. Personally I don't think adventure bikes cut it on the roads of Europe, I'll stick with sports bikes and sports tourers for GT'ing it through Europe. Unfortunately MCN has no interest in riders like me anymore.
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
That’s a shame, mate. What would you like to see in MCN?
@waggi207 ай бұрын
Answer Neevy plz
@mrdoodle87487 ай бұрын
Great video, great to hear those quotes along with your own opinions. I have a HP4 Competition stashed away, it gets ridden every month or so & is great fun & a bit more focused than the other bikes I ride.
@telemaster7 ай бұрын
Loved to see you cover a bygone year of super bikes. Would enjoy seeing some more of these!
@konstantinos_iliadis7 ай бұрын
Happy birthday Neevesy!! Wishing you all the best and many happy returns!
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
Thank you sir. 😊👍
@stephenchapman83447 ай бұрын
Great stuff. Remember well the arrival of BMWs1000rr. Lusted after one but hadn’t the cash or skills to get one. Unfortunately the price of superbikes now is beyond the reach of most people, especially younger riders. Ah well ……….there is always the euromillions . 😂👍
@krishnack797 ай бұрын
This is an amazing video, I am looking for a super bike for track days and was looking at years 2012 - 2015 because of my limited budget , your timely video is quite helpful, as someone who wants to improve their track skills I think the Kawasaki or the s1000rr stand out from this era , very therapeutic video , it's like listening to a meditation session 😂
@Andrei_K1G1K7 ай бұрын
"The Blade didn't really cut it..." LOL, brilliant pun intended or not...
@NudaMan7 ай бұрын
A lot of great bikes released in 2014 like bmw HP4,panigales,cbr1000rr SP etc too bad I was in my 3rd year of high school when these came out and wasn’t interested in bikes back then lol times change!
@shadowred19807 ай бұрын
I don't think people would go wrong buying any bike featured here. Maybe why the new stuff sells slowly, with even 20 years old bikes not being that far off. Interested in the 660 Daytona when you get a go, especially with this much rumoured race kit Pete Hickman is working on. Reminds me of the TL1000R kit we could order through Suzuki at a price that if you had to ask etc.
@hellfire087 ай бұрын
I love these videos and I didn’t even watch it yet 🙏🏼😆
@motodaxa7 ай бұрын
just in time! i've been contemplating one of these for track duty since they've just about hit the desirable trough in price that makes them sort of affordable for me... 10 years old is the goldilocks zone for performance machines on the cheap imo... power figures had started seriously climbing and the fledgling euro rules and relatively simple electronics make them really appealing to me. that RSV4 is drool-worthy still... P.S. this is babyfknblu on a new moto-centric youtube account :)
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
The RSV-4 is a continuous improvement project for Aprilia despite changing their focus from WSBK to MotoGP. Like BMW they will happily supply different spec engines from the factory so that you can decide how much is enough. I still have my stock RSV-4 Factory APRC SE Max replica from 2011 and despite the later step up to 1100cc I'm happy with the c. 180bhp that the 1000cc provides. Chassis and suspension quality is very satisfactory, too. The roll-on sound is still epic. #BeARacer
@motodaxa7 ай бұрын
yeah and my local club races havent opened up to more than 1000cc anyways so the older ones would be better!@@lonpfrb
@user-oe8gy8dk8f7 ай бұрын
I save up 5k and get one, "always" before ive sold one,god i luv me bikes.
@LeeTillbury7 ай бұрын
Great video. The fact you can buy supercar speed in a two wheel package makes them seem a bargain.
@AMomcilo17 ай бұрын
I kept reading in magazines that the R1 had so much potential, so I bought one and spent a bit of money making it awesome. Still have my 2009, no ABS, TC or anything to get in the way.
@RikkyTang7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this trip down road testing memory lane! This video had me trawling ebay for bargains... then I remembered that I couldn't take the riding position and the bike I really want is something like an S1000XR 😁
@_Archambaud7 ай бұрын
👍
@grr827 ай бұрын
Still have my HP4 from then. Don't think the newer bikes are more exciting.
@stevethomas46157 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this. I have an 1199S and I concur, it's an animal - but beautiful.
@patrickmalone93807 ай бұрын
Great video I can understand why Honda blade lost it's edge in racing .I wonder if japanese can regain there magic again .maybe 750 cc design .just wish Honda make a decent light v4 sports bike.i have a 2 vfr 750 .but so much unneeded things makes it to heavy .I have a cbr 900 rr sc 33 it's my kel first time rode it .I couldn't believe how quick got to 30 mph .and how much torque for me I thought u need rev it .but no .still have them .I brought st 1100 it's nice on a trip but more like a car . really enjoying these videos
@bummrusha7 ай бұрын
We really appreciate you sharing your vast experience and knowledge, you're a real treasure to the riding community! Question for ya - What are your thoughts on a modern street bike like an RS660 vs a superbike from this test? I ride an 1199S Tricolore on twisty roads and mostly in wet mode (120hp), it's damn good fun, but I wouldn't mind modern electronics and those Aprilias sure sing a beautiful song don't they?
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
Since you're already in da family, I think that can be arranged [feeble Godfather film reference]. RSV-4 is quite comparable to that era Ducati being a performance continuous improvement project i.e. better every year in small ways. The 1100cc RSV-4 should be easy after the 199S. Service availability is key so I recommend AP Workshops or Bikers World as the top shops. However I'm having fun on an RSV-4 Factory (1000cc). Sound-track is epic. You will already be used to the tyre wear and riding position challenges.. Have fun!
@bendavies67757 ай бұрын
If 750 / litre bikes are to remain a realistic aspiration for the younger (less than middle aged me) generations and hence a financially viable market segment in volume terms for manufacturers, then the latter must produce simpler, less highly strung machines that can be priced accordingly. Failing that there are many good, perfectly serviceable used examples that can be had for good money. It would be interesting to see the sales volumes and prices achieved for new and used sportsbikes especially in light of recent interest rate changes as cheap credit and PCP are two critical factors without which the massive surge in prices over the last 10 years would not have been possible.
@jonasenoksen70847 ай бұрын
How do you think the flagships of 10 years ago holds up to the flagships of today? Does the abundance of electronic tech really do anything to improve the enjoyment of riding in this segment?
@joewright41957 ай бұрын
Top G
@gw47177 ай бұрын
Still cannot get a better bike than a zx10r i got my 2020zx10r for 15,000 and its the best bike ive ever rode wouldn't trade it for any bmw or anything out there and my 2020 zx10r is not mellow at all its a monster on the roads
@leonardoatx37 ай бұрын
Hey man, how ya doing. Hold in there, carry on ✌️
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
I’m hanging in there 😊👍
@LloydG527 ай бұрын
Great video Neevesy 👌🏻 it's extremely sad to see superbikes dying out. I love the things, especially the 90s era! 😎 It wouldn't surprise me if in the future we just see special editions/ SP models of superbikes just built for homologation purposes for superbike racing. Priced well out of the pocket to the average man/woman. I hope I'm wrong 🙏🏻 Question, have you or MCN ever got hands on one of those Aprilia RSV4 x-trenta's to test? A 230hp RSV4 sounds like great fun 😅
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
Hi mate. Unfortunately we never got to ride one...or even saw one in the wild!
@paulfowler66657 ай бұрын
2014 blade a new bike? I owned a 2011 blade for 8.5 years and loved it but the blade from 2008-2016 hardly changed. Biggest change was 2012 which was only a mid model facelift. Brilliant bike lasting so long with so few changes. The next model didn't last so long🤔
@mfux8mo27 ай бұрын
Hi Neevesy , could you make a video about the YZF-R6🙏🏻 ? It’s also part of YAMAHA’s winning super bike in 600cc class and had also a lot of versions up until the year 2020🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻 Cheers Mark
@somatyk7 ай бұрын
Neevesy Sir, *tips hat*. I have a tyre question. Not being allowed to ride a bike when I was growing up because my mum would have kicked me out l, I got into cars. Uno's, 5's, 205's. Why is it that car tyres front and back when rotating forward have the same rain dispersion, but motorbikes don't always. The rear runs from centre outwards as it hits the tarmac to move the water. But the fronts often do the opposite and run outside to inside. How comes?
@NudaMan7 ай бұрын
Different grooves in the tires, front usually just sends the water under the bike while the rear wheel splits the water to opposite sides vs straight down the middle, you’d hydroplane badly if the water went straight down the middle like a car tire lol
@somatyk7 ай бұрын
@@NudaMan Thanks. But this is exactly what I don't understand. You've explained the rear dispersal angle of the tread to throw water out away from the centre of the tire to prevent aquaplaning. Which I understand. So why is the front often the opposite? Road 5's for an example. You say it's to throw water under the bike. But drawing fluid into the centre of the tyre surely promotes aquaplaning at the point of contact? It seems to me at least, anathema to what a tread is supposed to do. I thought it might be to do with the way the rubber moves water when on the side of the tyre.
@kemal.yetim.7 ай бұрын
🧿
@gw47177 ай бұрын
Wow that black 3rd helmet what is that i want that bad
@RoeyHaviv7 ай бұрын
“For normal riders like me” 😂
@carsyoungtimerfreak11497 ай бұрын
Nice, thank you. A few remarks... 14K versus 20K in price is a huge difference, to me far too much to compare them. And a serious question: if you need all these electronics to be able to ride a bike safely, does it not simply have too much power for the road? My bikes are over 20 years old and I have no plans to move to later models. The most advanced for me is ABS and heated grips. So I cannot answer this question. But I do wonder about it.
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
Electronics are susceptible to economies of scale so halo model positioning is probably a greater reason for the increases. Research and Development costs suggest trickle down to lesser models with less reason in bhp or Nm for Modes or TC. The fundamental rationale is corporate risk. Meaning that the risk of class action cases against the makers of dangerous products are a thing, and engineers can do more than legal or marketing will let them. 220 bhp without TC in gears 1 - 3 is a recipe for hazard and so reducing the number of possible sales for 'that frightening machine' - think 2-stroke 500 GP bikes. So the electronics enable power increase at acceptable risk to the manufacturer. Data logging for the track too (R1M). ABS seems like a nod to safety and virtue signalling by the manufacturers more than a practical benefit for road riders but I stand to be corrected on that one. They're certainly a nuisance for track riding where they can't be switched off and add weight and tube complexity. Most track bikes delete them. Heated grips are practical.. So does it not simply have too much power for the road? No, the throttle goes both ways, always has done. With modern electronics and data logging you can see that the fly-by-wire and ECU/IMU will decide how much power is reasonable despite what you ask for. Literally Throttle Position (Ask) and Throttle (Given) so that you can see the differences and also traction or slide control interventions. Yamaha R1M does all that out of the box. Others are available...
@carsyoungtimerfreak11497 ай бұрын
@@lonpfrb I understand all of that. But you miss my point. In today's society and in today's traffic it is no longer 'mine is bigger than yours'. This is not about what is technically possible, if we want to be able to continue riding motorbikes we have to realize the world, as always, changes. More and more people are getting supported by their council/government to ban bikes. Because of noise, anti social riding habbits. This ban will start with 1 or 2 roads, yet if we do not change our behavior the ban will move to areas and who knows what will be next. If you want to ride insanely fast, fine - go to the track. Based on that, my, conviction: 100 bhp is more than enough for a big road bike. Bar a few EVs you will be faster than anything else on the road!
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
@@carsyoungtimerfreak1149 The nanny state narrative. It's a freedom of speech in that your right to free expression includes accepting others may say something offensive to you. Similarly road users have a benefit of movement and must accept offensive vehicle choices bikes, SUV, whatever.. The Euro-5 98dB limit is offensive to me because Council Environment Health muppets think they can impose it on Circuits.
@Final_Boss_Racing7 ай бұрын
Hey Neevesy would you consider doing the BEST EVER MOTO 3 Class MOTO 2 Class MOTO GP Class
@woodyrunner267 ай бұрын
Hi Michael, did you ever go to the bike meet at six hill's years ago? I have got some great memories of going there on my Cagiva Mito. It was all good until the police started turning up every week. Great roads from where I live Market deeping also.
@neevesybikes7 ай бұрын
I went a couple of times for work. Do they still run it?
@woodyrunner267 ай бұрын
@@neevesybikes No, it's long gone. It's a Christian rehabilitation center now. I went to have a look a few years ago and a guy starting shouting at me and told me to get lost. Not a bike lover obviously.
@gw47177 ай бұрын
I take off on my 2020zx10r and wheel come up in 1st 2 and 3rd and just pulls like hell like rip you off the bike power so if thats slow then id like to see fast ive raced bmw r1 gsxr and all it does is pull right passed them see ya ✌️
@gw47177 ай бұрын
And the handling 👌 just amazing 👏 bike everything is good not one flaw pipe and a tune pushing 197 back wheel hp so that will blow your mind 😀
@jefflambert86037 ай бұрын
I am sure I Read BMW Based their Four Cylinder SuperBike on a Suzuki ?..Mabe C-F Moto can Build us an Affordable Superbike? Ive heard they are going to make Some Triples for their Home Market In Co-Operation with YAMAHA
@lonpfrb7 ай бұрын
Why would any freedom loving rider want to support the CCP who don't recognise fair trade, the international rule of law, freedom of navigation, intellectual property and human rights. The only vote you have with CCP is not to buy. Use it wisely...