Blasters Worst Nightmare! I Screwed Up Big Time! Season 2 Episode 6

[@seldoon_nemar]

The mucking will continue until morale improves

[@Spawn303]

Yes the monotone sad can be a cancer to a crew. Always be positive

[@kyanite2193]

@@Spawn303 Perfect Comment!!

[@jaydee7017]

So when we were shooting shots in similar conditions we would guage our stemming pack against the path of least resistance. In your particular circumstances there, I wouldn't have stemmed the burn and used less stemming pressure accordingly in your diamond, square and perimeter loads. It's going to travel the path of least resistance so just load your stemming with that in mind. All I've ever worked with was fractured granite and you just develop a feel for it eventually. You typically don't need as hot of a shot and you're definitely going to have radical fly rock when you're shooting a slip/fault or fractured rock. We typically wouldn't try to shoot past a difficult fault. We would get it dealt with, then move forward. Otherwise, you're just going to fight it and it's typically slow and frustrating. Loving what you guys are doing and the content you're putting out. I spent three weeks vacationing there last fall. Would have enjoyed running into you and looking over your operation. I plan on coming back next September. Maybe we can arrange to meet. Good luck guys!

[@Benson_aka_devils_advocate_88]

I was wondering if filling the holes to the slip with waste so that you just take the section in front of the slip would have helped. As you point out, you'll just fight it if you don't.

[@jimmylarge1148]

There’s not ver many honorable people on KZbin. You sir are one of them. Showing mistakes is more important than successes. Making mistakes is how humans learn. 98% of content creators would have left this out and pretended they were awesome.

[@excitedbox5705]

Like I said in your last video: Get a roll of plastic liner and use a hot wire to make long tubes/bags (like vacuum bagging). Push them over your anfo blow pipe and blow the anfo into the plastic tubes to keep it dry. You will never have a problem with wet anfo. You also need to get a mini skid loader. They are o cheap and would save you 2 days of mucking per round. It will pay for itself in a week.

[@williamthompson2222]

You have to stay on top of clearing debris from the bit. Once the debris becomes compacted it is extremely difficult to clear. The longer the drill stem, the worse it gets. Don't spare the water.

[@Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm]

Well darn, that went well until it didn't. This seventy year old fart, got sore and tired, just watching you muck out that first blast. Fascinating process. Were I a younger lad I might ship out west to help and learn. Now, I'll sit in my big comfy chair, and cheer you boys on. Thanks for showing us how its done, including the fails.

[@giantgizan]

@<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1834">30:34</a>, You can always Drill a relief hole at the bottom which wont be loaded with charge just for drainage.

[@OGRocker1]

Your still my favorite miners, blasters and mucker truckers... thanks for staying humble enough to video and talk about thing's when they don't go so well. Take care and stay safe, may every pan smile back at you with a golden smile. Till the Next. ... going to watch the S&J drop now... bye, see meeee. ⛏⚒⛏

[@GodsBattleAx]

You put plastic first into the hole, then you put sharp gravel 3-8mm that makes a plug in the bottom, after than you put stick. You should also try to drill downwards to make it easier when you have to plug the bottom. A self loading micro dumper would be great for removing the pile.

[@philtoth8246]

Your channel is unique, and not more of the same ol same ol. I am looking forward to seeing you extract the gold from the ore that you just extracted.

[@lapidary70]

I use a mould-able damp clay to pack off/ stem the drill holes after the holes loaded with ampho , works a treat in my mine , but I don't have water problems or slip problem. The clay really supercharges the blasts breaking power , this was a trick my father taught me that they used in the old coal& opal mines, might help you , but your local geology is way different to my gold mine here in Australia, keep punching men . Thanks for sharing 👍

[@hunnybunnysheavymetalmusic6542]

While what I am about to say is not seen by all miners as a realistic way of approaching this situation, the way that some professionals approach cracks in a face like that is to wash the holes out until mud stops running and then fill them with rapid setting cement. The cement need not be super strong, because it is only there to act as sideways stemming. Its job is to reduce the amount of cross flash between holes. Other than that, one should actually get a whole lot of high shock stick and put in there. When dealing with slips, especially where there is a very wide area of exposure, low brisance charges are less prone to clean detonations. I realize that higher brisances also equals increased hazard, but it is one of the more popular ways to break past such gaps. While I am sure there are other ways [I can actually think of a few], those are the most common, and most effective ones.

[@atuuschaaw]

Wow! It's easy to see that when it comes to mining, work is the word that matters most! ♥

[@markp.9707]

Love all the constructive comments for your viewers Jason! Outstanding community of viewers. Learning a lot and I will never put it into practice that I know of. Jason keep up the outstanding work and effort. Long time viewer and subscriber.

[@MickyDee67]

Work fascinates me, I can sit and watch it for hours. AND I'm glad it's me sitting here watching you blokes instead of the other way around. Can't wait til you reach the raise and make life easier for yourselves.

[@bobsch-gd6ze]

Everything is easy....Until it isn't ;) Good Job Guys !!

[@chuckerickson6721]

Can you roll up some stemming deep to block the slip side? Double stemming perhaps? Add some expanding dry grout they use for breaking rocks to your stemming mix. The expanding grout might plug off your water. Pack it with wads like black powder gun and let the grout do its magic. On second thought expanding grout might make heat and Ka-pow you :(

[@brly9243]

My thoughts exactly 😊?!?

[@Firedad4132]

I agree on using the expanding grout or roof bolt epoxy, otherwise if in mud, then drill/shoot the pattern shallow just to clear out. I wouldn't worry about the heat from the grout though.

[@kahnfu-zhin8627]

Wow! Now I get it. To be a successful miner, it is most necessary to enlist the assistance of an absolutely top-notch Mine Operator. Anybody ol’ body can muck all day. What counts is how ya deal with the never-ending variety of challenges and problems that mining surely provides.

[@jkmcdonnell1]

I spent 14 yeas underground . If we were ever caught collaring a hole by holding the steal we would not have a job even if we still had our hands . please use your wrench and keep your hands

[@billsmith5166]

It was hilarious when Harry said he couldn't wait to get back to mucking.

[@Irok_289]

if i had a passport i would take ou guys up on that job offer. looks like good ol fashion work. great video, thanks for taking us along! stay safe.

[@fuzzzeballs]

my days grafting like that are welland truly over, pain all over im worn out and only 50

[@ReviveMeAlive]

I really love this series. Thank you for putting in the work to capture this on camera. -Colorado

[@sanfranciscobay]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1270">21:10</a> Explains the cost of Drilling and Explosives.

[@Y2KNW]

The way your voice-over started I was worried one of you got hurt.

[@rogergriffin9893]

Thanks for showing this, Jason! It looks like you have alot of experienced hard rock miners who are following your channel! I see lots of what sound like good advice and years of experience in the comments. No other channel on KZbin has anything, even remotely like yours.. Well except Jeff's channel, too! You are a good man because many people wouldn't be willing to put their mistakes on video for all to see, much less appeal for advice.

[@13Nagash13]

As much as it sucks, in muddy slips where gasses are going to shoot the slip and cause anfo gaps, it might save time in the long run to just stop drilling at the slip, do a shorter blast to expose the slip, then work from a clean face.

[@mikewatts3615]

I been following your channel for a long time now. Always interesting

[@HanstheTraffer]

"You load 16 tons and what do you get? Another day older and skinnier yet..."

[@GoldenBoy-et6of]

Good song but mining is a good fun thing to do! It's my favorite thing to do!

[@KamikazeWombat]

Always show the problems too. A lot of us will be interested in them and in how you deal with them, and you'll get a lot of advice (some of it even from people who know what they are talking about haha) I agree with what other people said about not trying to blast through slips, and in the future if you're in this situation put perhaps stem rock in the back of the hole so the blast doesn't get to the slip much.

[@solanaceae2069]

Beats mucking out the milking stalls. No gold in manure.

[@support2587]

All natural fertilizer. There’s gold there.

[@topnotch3561]

As my cousin says where there is shit there is money no truer words spoken

[@ashgamble1168]

Lol in Australia we call plumbers shit wizards abracadabra a pile of crap turns into money

[@patrickrankin9591]

I wonder if you use short stemings in the very back of your holes when dealing with a muddy slip if it help plug the water an direct the blast out into the Rock

[@donkeydonk96]

love your work.

[@merky6004]

Aw man. It ends on a literal cliff hanger. Sort of.

[@DirtyPlumbus]

Taking lunch always killed me. Lol You boys need a radio or something to help keep your mood up.

[@jimmylarge1148]

They would get copyright claimed if they have “unauthorized” music in their vids.

[@confuseatronica]

1- theres got to be a better way to muck, but if anybody would know and be motivated to find it, it would be you guys so maybe not. 2- that view of the next ridge from the portal is amazing

[@stuartpatterson1617]

I'd be looking into getting a mini conveyor belt. My back is sore just watching you 😅

[@Sheppey05]

Any chance you can leave a camera and light in the mine when you blast? Could be really cool footage

[@TonyMccune-r2n]

Would putting stemming against the slip at back of the hole help against the loss of gases

[@lylebabi2637]

Thank you

[@lylebabi2637]

WOW

[@TalRohan]

Takes a lot to move a lot...Nothing like hard manual labour to get you incredibly fit ...or broken... but you seem to be doing it right so thats al good what about taking a slice out of the front by drilling a long set of diagonal holes down into the face to push the wall out away from the slip. There are various places in the slate quarries here where they've had a fault cause problems and you can see around the edges where they've cut in at a very shallow angle to split out the face and use the charge to almost push off the slip/fault behind and peel it out ...makes a lot of fly rock but you wouldnt need huge charges to do it, even in your geology. Great to see how youre doing this in sequence.

[@robanderson4137]

I would use the power of Gold Fever and invite people to come to the mine, shows them some gold,..then tell em the muck is full of it and just watch how fast those newbies would haul that worthless muck away...

[@rickvangunten4800]

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has any good advice for dealing with blasting past a slip. I admire your tenacity. I have dealt with a few difficult projects in my time, But nothing like underground mining.

[@tj8244]

you are dealing with best guess behind the face. as they say shit can and will happen. Mr. Murphy always makes a visit no matter what.. Still doing a great job

[@vossierebel]

Hard work and a setback... but you lads will win, that's for sure!!

[@SkateSoup]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="626">10:26</a> great capture of a miner's minor adjustment

[@bubba7767]

Awesome sauce!!!

[@Ertealve]

Just watched last episode of Freddy Dodges mine rescue, thought someone looked familiar! ;)

[@dumpbear0]

With the slips maybe stem, load, stem. Plug the back of the holes with stemming, take less material until the face of the slip is exposed.

[@5t0n3d-G4m3r]

this is what makes us human, we make mistakes and learn...... unfortunately some mistakes just cost a lot more!!!

[@roddraper9921]

You get to breath in blasting gases, you get to dodge falling rocks, you get to slip on slippery rocks and bang your knees, and thats when things are going good. Bin there done that. 60 years ago.

[@GoldenBoy-et6of]

You got no idea how lucky you are

[@leaversj]

I love these episodes soooooooooo much

[@timellis9293]

You guys ever think about doing vacation guides. I have almost a month of vacation time I have stacked up. I would love to head up there from Florida and be abused for free labor for a week, just to get the experience of a lifetime. I would be willing to sign away my life.

[@wolfeyessouls7965]

Fingers crossed it all went well❤...definitely learning as you go. She's gonna make you work to the motherload ❤

[@0ctivate]

I like the suspenseful ending!!

[@kensmith8832]

One of the most common things I see where people were drilling for a road is drill bits stuck in the hole. This is in limestone regions, so it is common to have movement in your drill path. I have seen areas where the blast zone was massive, because they hit a pocket like yours. I would stem the back of the hole near the mud vein, use a small charge and stem the front of the hole. The hope is to remove material to the soft vein. But there isn't an easy or cheap method to get past the problem. It is too bad you don't have plastic bags to blow in the holes to keep your powder dry!

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

I would be very concerned using unsealed anfo in such wet conditions. If you could go full cartridge it would be so much more reliable. I assume the cost is a LOT higher.

[@wickittiewhaat2495]

A pair of large vice grips and a bottle jack to get the iron out of the hole would save you some effort. Thanks for sharing!

[@iancoles480]

Love this series!!!

[@jimaffinito1809]

Can this be adapted in to a fitness/workout modality? It could be marketed to MMA fighters and special ops as a way to get stringy strong and stay mobile. Minercize.

[@Snoozeknights]

I wish I could work with you guys for a year but I'm in a spot in life where I cant unfortunately. I hope you find someone who enjoys it just as much as you do.

[@keithsimonson6799]

Wow! You two are awesome! I look forward to your video every week.

[@kenwanless4533]

The other benefit? No worries about sunburn. 🙃

[@markp.9707]

Actually pretty funny and accurate

[@tor9903]

after i get my hip replaced hopefully this coming spring i would love to come do all the various "programs" . sounds a lot like being in the army again if you ask me.

[@Fatamus]

Sometimes shit happens and sometimes you fall backwards into it. 😱😱😱

[@toddrodgers5108]

I am learning so much . Nope not going to play with dinomight. Lol. Blessings

[@mattgraham1983]

Dam, prehaps the mine was saying you need a rest from mucking out 😂 fingers crossed that blast was successful.

[@johannesdesloper8434]

What to do? stem the blast hole on the other side! shove in stemming first. Oh man...this is my #1 entertainment atm.

[@elroyjennings6876]

You avoid an iron ramrod to avoid sparks. But then you are ramping down gravel. Rock on rock can produce sparks when it is a hard mineral.

[@jamesculver829]

Doing this before, having a fault you stop at the slip. You stem the bottom of the hole. Then, just pull that layer off. Typically, you also add more relief holes, too. So you shatter the face. It takes more time. But way less aggravating then trying to mop up a lost shot.

[@Red9GearHeads]

Man I can feel the post lunch sleepy mode. I don’t eat lunch for that very reason. Small snacks all day then I eat like I’m possessed all evening.

[@xyzabc4574]

I'm not a blast expert. But it seems to me that if you stem one end of the hole to keep the gasses in then when you know you're hitting a slip like this, you may want to stem BOTH ends of the hole. Stem -> Boom Sauce -> Stem

[@johnnychimpo2636]

Ty for the video sir!

[@bobbyhoward9672]

Hit the like button people

[@hardrockuniversity7283]

You could also pump in some grout if you want to seal some cracks. More time and money.

[@charliespeegleokliving8595]

Next time you encounter a 'slip', don't drill further. This is now you 'new' drill depth and the rest of your drilling should go no further. Stem the 'slip' end, pack with explosives and stem the outer end. This method should reduce the time spent dealing with stuck drills. Really enjoying your programming.

[@TheSilverSphincter69]

its a bad day when you have a lot of holes and not a lot of stick😂😂😂

[@keeperofthelists4771]

Can't screw up mining gold... unless someone gets hurt!

[@williamscoggin1509]

You guys get some rest. 👍🏻

[@GregMeyer-p1i]

In a case like that could you stem the back of the holes prior to putting your explosives in. Also I thought that early in the drilling when you ran into the fault and mud that just blasting the center first might have set you up better.

[@rogergriffin9893]

No worries about having too much free time either.

[@BrianJensen-ym5gk]

Sounds like there's presently a lot of Super High Intensity Training programmes in the mine. It sure looks like it's taking a toll on you both. Yeah, misfires suck. I did EOD in the army, and unexploded stuff can really turn into some hemorrhoid clenchers, until it is properly sorted out.

[@fredygump5578]

Just a thought, but how about putting stemming in the hole first, then the charge, and then more stemming? Just when there is a slip at the back of the hole... I don't think this is a mistake. I think problems are normal when drilling into unknown geology.

[@dondavis5633]

Enjoy that unplanned weight loss, Jason. In later years, having extra weight gets to be a lot like dealing with permanent squatters on your best patch of land...

[@thomastrombley3915]

I still think you NEED a small conveyer to move the muck out to the holding area or out of the mine to crush

[@dennishudson9723]

You should find a couple of electric conveyor belts to make your mucking life much easier or at least get it closer to themuck pile or even an air operated one if they make those

[@BoostedMike2]

i can see why conveyer belts are often used in underground mining lol maybe a winter project that or those aussie style vacum hose

[@bigshow5173]

Can you video the next blast from inside looking at the charges? While YOU are outside of coarse. Would be neat to see in slow motion.

[@jaratt85]

You can always make your own stick powder by loading anfo into either condoms or saran wrap and twisting up the ends.

[@jamesteasley5493]

should of stemmed the holes in the back with a little bentonite clay and gravel against the slip to stop water drainage and prevent caps from cut off from initial blast

[@zking407]

I’m curious why your PVC water pipe that you clean out the holes with is almost the same size as your hole? Would a smaller diameter allow the mud and pebbles to pass bye with more room in the hole?

[@Spudz76]

The PVC is just a probe for depth and jags, not for cleaning. Also it is a guide when left in another hole, so the drill steel can be eyeballed close to parallel with the other holes. The cleaning/clearing jet is a much smaller tube like a brake line.

[@brentsmith981]

I'm confused. You talk about removing all the muck and moving it to waste, yet there is ore in sight. At 1000.00 to 1500.00 a pop, are you processing any pay?

[@Panicagq2]

The big reason for drilling that way is to get to the raise, now less than 20 feet away. Once through and cleaned up, they can go back to following the pay and only have to muck it to the raise and down to the loading area. This saves on handling each bag of ore multiple times in an exhausting game of chutes and ladders from the face to the truck.

[@michaelpass2176]

But in this job your paying your selves!

[@chriss8206]

Everybody recommend an electric conveyor system for the muck

[@lizzymoore54]

Sixteen tons and what do ya get? Another day older and deeper in debt. 🎼🎤🎼 Tennessee Ernie Ford. 😉☺️

[@oswynfaux]

Some muck mucked up your mucking blast

[@milkmanchoppers]

At least you don't have to move the waste rock twice!

[@skoitch]

I did a tour in an Alaskan mine, their holes were 10”-14” apart. Is that preference or are they using a different explosive? Maybe differing geology?

[@jmazoso]

So how far are you from the raise now? Can we get a progress report. Love the geologic education.

[@michaelpass2176]

Does your timely include loading the truck to haul to your home?

[@MikeM-s7s]

Hire some cheaper help!! <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="496">8:16</a>

[@Rickthefarmer-hj4wi]

200 buckets is … let’s see… according to my calculations… 950 tons !!!😄