Bleeding A Kyber Crystal Scene - Star Wars Jedi Survivor

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[@LadyElfTari]

Love how my man woke up after the worst day of his life and a minute later basically decided, "This might as well happen."

[@baz00katooth]

Dude literally woke up and chose violence.

[@kaifuture8917]

Couldn’t even walk, but still decided to go on a war path.

[@imsentinelprime9279]

Bruh woke up and said, imma just make a lightsabe real quick

[@alexguolo5872]

i saw it more as that his body was weak and needed to draw on his anger and bring his crystal intune with it to bring him back to strength

[@alexguolo5872]

in star wars lore the crystal was intune with its user always

[@jediclonekag13]

I'm so freaking happy that we finally got to see a Force-sensitive individual bleed a kyber crystal outside of the comics and novels.

[@flamesofchaos13]

Also like the color not being pure red but reddish-orange. Edit: It's Red just the lighting in the game gets weird and changes the hue of blades.

[@SynthBro]

​@@flamesofchaos13Nah, it's the same as the inquisitors vlade and cal's red blade in ng+, they just changed the design of the red blade colour in this one from Fallen Order

[@flamesofchaos13]

@@SynthBro They didn't change the design as Vader's and Ninth Sister have the same Red color. However it isn't seemingly Reddish-Orange like I thought. Apparently it's a lighting issue with the game that causes it to look like so because in the areas we fight Gera and Bode there's bright lighting in white foundation...While Vader and Ninth Sister are in dim lighting in dark zones. The guide claims they're all Red blades but in gameplay there is a distinct color difference because of the lighting. It's an outright shame though as Reddish-Orange looks great and would show a difference between Sith and other Non-Sith Dark Siders. But it isn't...Though I would love if they do include in a patch or the next game a Blood Orange lightsaber as an option to use.

[@SynthBro]

@@flamesofchaos13 Yes that's kinda what I meant, it's the same colour for all of them, it only appear orange - I do hope there is a different process of bleeding of some sort for the orange-bloody blades as seen in Ahsoka trailer

[@barstool9156]

@@flamesofchaos13 Right, but htey confirmed that Orange sabers do exist in canon, and not the Fools Kyber type of orange.

[@Puddingskin01]

"So those assholes who abandoned me are being hunted like dogs you say?" 'Well, I wouldn't put it like that, wait, what are you doing?' "Seeing if dog catchers are still hiring."

[@yazidefirenze]

"Dude stop, there's like hardly any of us left." "Then I might get paid more for it."

[@NtoTheM]

"WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!" "Bro, it's just a re-skin, calm your tits, maaan."

[@LaCazaLP]

My guy didnt wanna pay 4.99 for the "Sith Lightsaber Skinpack"

[@noahheide6316]

Whoever is writing Cal’s saga is very good at antagonists. Between Trilla in Fallen Order and Dagan in Survivor, they’re so complex and fun to play against!

[@sorryshiina6264]

And that other guy too

[@callumrangan1061]

i wont lie, I thought Dagan was a little bit boring. But thats probably because Im not a huge High/Old republic fan. Dont get me wrong he was still a fun and scary antagonist. Just not my cup of tea. Bode was a lot more fun and emotional for me

[@elwiwi4638]

@@callumrangan1061 I think it's because of how little there was tbh you meet him, now he's evil, you dont really.. do much else afaik

[@Justin-AL]

Trilla was too boring and predictable it honestly wasn’t until Vader got introduced in fallen order did I feel like the game actually started everything that happened before then just felt like a prologue

[@callumrangan1061]

@@Justin-AL feels like more of a you problem

[@giantrobby5050]

I feel like Cal info-dumping the fall of the Jedi Order on a guy who’s only been awake for a minute might’ve been why Dagan was able to bleed the Kyber Crystal so easily

[@hollowoh]

Bleeding a crystal mid conversation is wild.

[@TreeckoBro]

Whoever came up with the idea of bleeding kyber crystals is amazing. It's a great way of showing that characters don't think of themselves as evil compared to "I'm Dark Side now so my lightsaber is red"

[@bluehero-96]

Even though that IS a deliberate act of making it red because they are evil. Ok. Sure.* *Sarcasm

[@TheKenji2221]

Bleeding the crystal is so dumb... The original version being there was no red crystal, and the only way to have one was to make it synthetically sounds much more plausible

[@DarkRaven4649]

@@TheKenji2221 The Sith also made them synthetically because they could make them stronger that way. Stronger synthetic crystals were basically a trait of the power-seeking, while the natural colours were harvested naturally, showing they were more in tune.

[@akkere4052]

@@TheKenji2221 Bleeding a crystal speaks way more volumes to the willingness an individual has to go down the dark path they're at. The lore around kyber crystals being bonded to the user and that the user has to effectively abuse the crystal to get it in that state, is OBJECTIVELY more compelling than just "they made unnatural crystals that were apparently stronger". Emphasis on "apparently" because let's be honest, the strength never was demonstrated in any meaningful way. I get being upset about new Canon changes, but this is a legitimately more narratively powerful lore device than what we had before.

[@nickmalachai2227]

I think both should be the case. Sith can build synthetic crystals that are compliant to their wrath and naturally red, but they can also bleed a crystal to destroy its resistance to their will. This is why Luke's lightsaber, which he made with an artificial crystal but one that he didn't need to overpower, is green.

[@diegoandrade467]

Dagan wakes up from thousands of years of slumber, sees a dude he has no clue about and his first priority is what’s been on his mind since going into stasis. He just bleeds a Crystal so casually.

[@imperious8905]

Hundreds actually. And that makes a difference considering how long ago the old republic era is

[@SenpaiBo]

@@imperious8905 high republic events take place 500 years before skywalker story right?

[@corywatts1934]

Probably like 300 years

[@diegoandrade467]

@@imperious8905 oh yeah I got old republic and high republic mixed up

[@benboudreau1221]

@@SenpaiBo very confident that in this game they say what happened with dagan was 200 years before the events of the game, i could have misheard but that number is what stuck with me. And Im pretty sure the high republic is just the height of the republic, which is essentially from before the jedi began to have their downfall, so between 100 and 500 bby.

[@rubenotero7100]

>Wake up >Immediately bleed kyber crystal >refuse to elaborate >leave

[@jainamkumar4336]

*dies

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

egg

[@KIWI_DUDE.]

He very much did elaborate though, he went on quite the rant

[@notimeleft1]

I never thought I would ever see someone make their crystal bleed. Seeing this was just amazing. I watch the crystal with Dagan venting to Cal about what happened to tanalorr during his time and was like “holy crap, he’s making his crystal bleed!!😱😱🤯🤯” lol

[@Tyler-mr5tj]

Same, I saw it happening and it flashed through my head (horrified look on my face) " he's bleeding the crystal".

[@TheLastPrime38]

I get that we all have different preferences, but I think bleeding kyber crystals is one of if not the best change that happened to cannon. It's such a great idea and i think emphasizes the commitment to choosing the dark side. The dark side brings pain and anger, so literally hurting your kyber to change it is awesome imo.

[@methuselahh_]

fr, synthetic crystals always seemed lame to me

[@dain6492]

But what's the point other than being emo? And don't give me some harry potter wands are sentient crap, bc there's been zero evidence of that in any movie or show

[@methuselahh_]

@@dain6492 it’s been stated plenty of times in clone wars and other animated projects as well as in comics and books and pretty much everything else that the crystals are somewhat alive

[@dain6492]

@@methuselahh_ but what does that have to do with functionality? In harry potter the wands are weaker if they don't accept you, but a Saber is a mere tool, what is the benefit?

[@methuselahh_]

@@dain6492 it doesn’t have a benefit, it’s just how the crystals are. it explains how they’re able to connect to the force, which is how they even make the blade in the first place to some extent

[@virajbandrapalli8156]

I think what makes this scene so powerful for me is how casually he bleeds his crystal, dude did it so fast Cal could barely comprehend what was going on

[@B1ackout850]

Im a big kegends fan and personally i think bleeding crystals is far cooler than them being synthetic, to each their own, and so crying please

[@user-nj9tm1ri8d]

I personally can’t keep track of what we’re officially going by now. Is it still that they are kinda sentient life? And that “bleeding” is throwing hatred and anger through the crystal and essentially corrupting it? Or is that something different?

[@maltt8715]

i thought there was both Sith used synthetic because they didnt have access to kyber crystals but dark jedi just bled the ones they had.

[@benboudreau1221]

agreed

[@benboudreau1221]

@@user-nj9tm1ri8d Play it safe, the movies shows and games have constantly retconned the books so general rule for me is its not truly going to be canon until established on screen. the books are too hard to track and there are so many, so as good as they are they never end up mattering to the people making the shows movies and games. They are pretty clear nowadays or at least try to be on what the current canon is and where it fits. right now the timeline is TPM, AOTC, the entire clone wars series, revenge of the sith, the bad batch, Solo, fallen order, the obiwan kenobi series, jedi survivor, rebels, Andor, Rogue one, ANH, ESB, ROTJ, Mando, Book of boba, eventually ahsoka and the acolyte and anything else disney announces will continue to be canon and unfortunately the sequels. And battlefront 2 campaign but that shit gets ignored so hard. Outside of that everything is ignored, even books they claim to be canon they often ignore (happened alot in the sequels), but sometimes they borrow things from legends as seen with the existence of the high republic and whatnot, so my rule of thumb now has just been until you see it on screen its nothing more than a cool story because directors are so likely to just ignore the external material because its too hard to track, and I beleive the team they have in place managing the current canon only manages material that hits the screens. All this being said, out of all those projects listed, kyber crystals are only ever shown in clone wars, rebels, rogue one, andor and the jedi games. On top of this, dagan bleeding his crystal is the very first explanation in any of these listed projects for how lightsabers are red, so bleeding crystals is the only on screen explanation for sith sabers, so that is what theyre going by officially. Anything established in any book that contradicts that is now considered legends, So as i said, even if the book stories are amazing, only consider the movies shows and games to be official canon because they are the ones they seem to actually put continuity effort into now. Once the story makes it into an on screen project, they typically dont retcon it (at least not so blatantly like switching from synthetic crystals to bled ones) so in this case, bleeding crystals made it from page to screen, now its canon.

[@benboudreau1221]

@@user-nj9tm1ri8d and yes my undesrstanding is bleeding a crystal is corrupting a crystal which are essentially living elements of the force, using hatred and rage, which metaphorically "bleeds" it draining its pure energy and replacing it with hate, turning it red as a side effect. Crystals can be purified, but they do not retain whatever colour they had and instead turn white (ahsokas sabers) although as I said before, since that explanation is from a book (which that book itself has been retconned in how ahsoka survived order 66 by the clone wars) it isnt truly part of the new canon until we see it on screen. confusing, and unfortunate, but being a film series at its core I just find it easiest to let whats on screen dictate whats canon.

[@sonicgen20]

Really cool to actually see the first time the bleeding process in action, not just in comic book pages.

[@badmoose01]

I was hoping for it to be more exciting. It literally just changes color.

[@sonicgen20]

@@badmoose01 And releases a shockwave at the end.

[@sonicgen20]

@@badmoose01 It’s pretty much what Vader did to bleed his light saber in the comics. Channel your hate into a kyber crystal until it turns red and creates a big shockwave.

[@kvsyaoran727]

This was an addition to Star Wars I applaud Disney/comic book writers integrating into the franchise; bleeding a crystal feels so much more personal than simply making a synthetic crystal, this is more visceral and personal, pouring rage and pain into the crystal

[@BigPapaDrewski]

I never thought watching that crystal bleeding would make my skin absolutely crawl, it felt raw and wrong which is absolutely incredible

[@thecrimsondragonslayer6533]

Now I want to see a purification scene where someone makes a white crystal

[@UghDan]

I do like this scene, however in my opinion I think some of it is a little rushed. I think there should have been more dialog between him waking up and then bleeding his crystal. Apart from that I think this scene was great. It's also the first time we've seen a kyber crystal being bled (besides from comics)

[@blacksabbth9932]

Its not like he has much to think about he was frozen in anger

[@flamesofchaos13]

Given he was already a Fallen Jedi before the tank literally having killed multiple Jedi...His opinion and beliefs were set in stone prior to the timeskip. He just used Cal to escape and when he realizes he's a Jedi that just means he's an enemy to kill. Given that the story has another traitor faking their allegiance as well we didn't need two Fallen Jedi's pretending to be friends so just getting to the action also makes sense in gameplay terms.

[@willow_2312]

You can tell they really wanted to do more with Dagan but the game was long enough already

[@Asriel_Cypher]

I think it's better if they drag out the dialogue, just a little bit more. Using the elements like that scene in the Joker movie. Joker meets Murray. I wish they'd kept it intense like that scene and after the crystal bursts, everything fell silent and then the reveal. They could've dragged it out by letting Dagan Gera slowly talk to Cal and finding out where he and Cal stands. It'd make the scene more intense, I think. Since the audience can tell everything as we see the bigger picture while Cal is good inside and believed that he found an ally. So his naivete here was shown because he found more of his kind, just like how he released Dagan immediately without questioning the reasons why. In my opinion having that slow and long conversation between them before he turns, would have everyone biting their nails as they slowly realize what's happening.

[@flamesofchaos13]

@@Asriel_Cypher I already felt then tension and was like okay get ready Cal. It doesn't need to be slow...There are already two other characters that take on such a role in the game.

[@DanT10]

I liked when Degan was released from the bacta you got a section where he sounded something like Darth Vader breathing through the bacta mask.

[@dr0g_Oakblood]

4:09 - So I guess during this scene he is feeling his Crystal resisting him, so he immediately decides to bleed it. Nice little bit you can see come together on a second watch/playthrough.

[@mriddley]

This is intense he bled his own crystal this was basically a part of him and he corrupted it this to me was one of the most powerful scenes in the game

[@benboudreau1221]

its crazy that we have only ever seen kyber crystals, still to this day, exclusively outside of the main saga. Not once in any movie are they ever mentioned or shown. not even the sequels which are well after kyber crystals were established. Rogue one and andor are also the only live action star wars media to adress kyber crystals, and this game is the very first time we see a crystal be bled outside of a book. its wild that star wars is so big that this sort of thing is nearly common knowledge yet essentially never mentioned in most of its most popular media.

[@Renji9031]

There was that frame in the worst Star Wars movie that showed the kyber crystal of Anakin's lightsaber when Rey and Ben struggled for it just before the Holdo Maneuver.

[@richardbrooksshnee]

You're forgetting that starkiller base is literally the husk of the planet that Jedi retrieved khyber crystals from. Strip mined some for the death stars and the eclipse, turned the remnant into starkiller base. So any crystal seen there were khyber.

[@callumrangan1061]

@@richardbrooksshnee yea but we never saw any crystals while Rey and Finn were on Ilum. Just the huge mega death laser that shoudl have burned Hux's and the entire stormtrooper regimes retinas out

[@callumrangan1061]

Im trying to think about a time when Kyber crystals were mentioned in the 9 movies but you're right. The first time crystals were mentioned outside of books was in the clone wars arc with Ahsoka. Its weird given how impactful the jedi and sith and their lightsabers are to the whole story

[@benboudreau1221]

@@richardbrooksshnee this isn't confirmed that Starkiller base is ilum (altho I agree it is), and is also the same as saying every lightsaber is a kyber crystal we've seen, not quite what I meant but I see where you're coming from

[@joshuasantana8207]

Man woke up and chose violence

[@JustanotherTeg]

Dagan woke up and chose violence.

[@PeteTemplar101]

This went from 0 to 100 so fast I've got whiplash 😂 So good to actually see a crystal get bled in motion, and even better with context from comics on how traumatic the experience can be

[@spoopatroopa8005]

Made it look easy compared to Vader doing it. What a Chad.

[@imbangmaynn5705]

Well there are different factors tho right. This is a high republic jedi their experience in the field are far greater than Vader's time. But it's also worth noting that Vader knew that he was evil for doing what he did. He knew that he was wrong and that's what conflicted his Anakin part. He knew he was doing something wrong but the pain the hurt everything was clouding him from being good again. And he knew it, the greatest battle in that scene was with himself not with bleeding his own crystal. With Dagan on the other hand he thought he was doing good. He wanted his revenge on the order, and just wanted to do what he wants, he was a self righteous evil type of character where he thought he was the hero. That's why it was easier for him, there was no conflict or doubt just pure rage and hate

[@MrWill9002]

That's because that's not how crystals work. You can't bleed a crystal. You CAN however use a natural red crystal (And good luck with that because those are rare) or make a synthetic crystal

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

@@MrWill9002 I recommend checking the early Darth Vader comics - in the new canon, Kyber Crystals (what lightsaber crystals are called now) are living things and are innately aligned with the Light Side. To create a red Kyber Crystal - one aligned with the Dark Side - one must channel all of their hatred, rage, etc into it, which causes it to 'bleed'. Vader got his red lightsaber crystal by killing a Jedi Master and bleeding his crystal, which was much more interesting than just making a synthetic one in a furnace, I think.

[@MrWill9002]

@@spaceonisorceress4406 Still bullshit and you know it. In the true canon, Sith use SYNTHETIC crystals because they work much better with the Dark Side. Besides, the Sith have to work in the shadows. This 'bleeding the crystal' crap is just another way of Disney treating people like their idiots.

[@MrWill9002]

@@spaceonisorceress4406 Besides, Palpatine provided the synthetic crystals. And you're 100% wrong. It's not interesting at the slightest. It's too soon since REMEMBER: Vader's still getting used to his armor and cybernetic limbs so there's no way in heaven or HELL he can kill a Jedi easily like he did in that bullshit comic

[@hfar_in_the_sky]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: this is one of the few times were the new canon makes waaaay more sense than the old canon. In the old canon, the reason for dark side users using red lightsabers was because they almost always used synthetic lightsaber crystals and somehow these synthetic crystals being "stronger but more unstable." Which even as a kid, I kind of felt "Meh" about that. But establishing that even sith lightabers are powered by kyber crystals, just corrupted ones, makes it make sense that only dark side users would use them because they are the only ones depraved enough to corrupt a kyber crystal like that. The lightside equivalent of cleansing corrupted kyber crystals to make white lightsabers was also a nice addition imo

[@stevenvonsiebenhoven4217]

I honestly think that along with these games being amazing, I think they are also near enough Cinematic Masterpieces!

[@magusware8721]

I found this scene strange, bro wakes up, realised he was betrayed, decides to turn to dark side, first order of business... "gotta look the part" - bleed the crystal... Like it was cool, but, surely there was more important first things to do.

[@stephenb3104]

I wish Dagan was open to being on Cals side

[@darthdracul8372]

He probably knew that he was too deep in the Jedi to begin with. Either that, or his obsession, drove him insane.

[@MrWill9002]

One word: hubris

[@hordakprime6172]

Yeah, because they really don't have a reason to be enemies.

[@MrWill9002]

@@hordakprime6172 Like I said, hubris.

[@KevinJohnson-cv2no]

I mean Cal is regular do-gooder boy-scout Jedi tho; you can tell how quickly he started panicking when Dagan started revealing the story, and the moment the crystal was bled he ignited his lightsaber ready for battle. None of the signs are telling Dagan that this Jedi will be receptive to his motivations lol

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

I am kind of surprised the bleeding process is as far as it is, I was expecting it to take a good bit longer.

[@jaderabbit898]

To be fair, he got 200 years of bottled up anger, so he got plenty.

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

@@jaderabbit898 true i just remember hearing that crystals typically resist being bled and it can take awhile. Plus the fact he just knew how.

[@jaderabbit898]

@@KenshiImmortalWolf As for the lsat part, maybe he knew of the methods but never attempted himself until what happened after Tanalorr?

[@AdmiralStoicRum]

I have a feeling that he had a lot of time to build up that anger, and the hurt from that betrayal he fed it all into that crystal and all of his pain his anger his hate all of it and since it was already his Khyber I don't think there was much need for him to force it as much since it already had a bond. Unlike one say took from a Jedi they'd slain

[@i5m1thy]

@@KenshiImmortalWolf Sith usually kill a jedi to steal their crystal and bleed it. Since this was his own crystal maybe it didn't resist him because he was already attuned to it.

[@milagrosgutierrezmartin9506]

I love the idea of bleeding crystals, I don't know why people are so angry at those little retcons

[@lumberluc]

Its stealing power from The Force

[@rileyd2025]

Probably just because it’s different than what it used to be

[@twinodoom]

@@lumberluc I don't see how. Bleeding crystals is essentially just corrupting a natural Lightsaber Crystal to turn it to the Dark Side of the Force.

[@lumberluc]

@@twinodoom it's like power. If a section of air is all of a sudden gone, what happens? More air flows to the voided space. Treat the kyber crystal as such. Dagan siphoned it hard, and in doing so, it tried to make up for the loss of power. As for that blast that Cal got to his face, it was the kyber crystal saying enough as the void was filled at a rapid rate when Dagan was sated with his restoration

[@twinodoom]

@@lumberluc When the Crystal was forced out the natural Light, Dagan's Anger and Hate replaced it with power from the Dark Side of the Force.

[@EvanSolomonBerger]

I loved this scene. So much.

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

egg

[@MEGAF4IL]

Dagan really pulled a "If you can't beat them, join em"

[@aPol.01]

Best scene in the whole game

[@TheDiggity42]

The game tells us about his and Rayvis’ team up before we see them interact. Dagan says “My duel with the Gen’dai didn’t take this long.” That’s the name of Rayvis’ species, implying they had been aligned a lot longer than anyone knew.

[@therealajzaini]

He bled the crystal so easily

[@HenryLouis21]

I think that's because it's his crystal which is tied and connected to Dagen so it bleeding easily is because the crystal was his. The reason why others had a hard time bleeding their crystal like Vader and Kylo Ren was that their crystals were not theirs so it took more effort.

[@therealajzaini]

@@HenryLouis21 i kinda think he probably bled many crystals back in his time.

[@HenryLouis21]

@@therealajzaini It was hundreds of years ago when the Sith were presumed dead and he was a full Jedi. I doubt he bled any crystals at all.

[@therealajzaini]

@@HenryLouis21 all the more reason to Bleed it in secret? Who knows. He's such a Goat for bleeding it very easily tho.

[@Realm_Splitter]

holy shit , i thought this was going to be like 45 seconds but it started with a f'n invasion

[@JerginBootwyler]

My favorite part was playing this scene with my own sith red lightsaber being like "what have you done" "same as you apparently"

[@Mikerille]

The red doesn’t look as pure bright red as I’d like, but it’s awesome

[@angryGinger62]

5:36 ....i think some dialogue was cut here because its almost as if dagan answered cal (lip movement)

[@cameronphenix2096]

I knew he was going to be a villain, and I was really expecting his lightsaber to already be red when he first ignited it. When i saw it was yellow, I was actually excited for another jedi to be included and my expectations to be subverted, but was a little disappointed when a moment later he bled the crystal

[@starmanjay3047]

I approve of this retcon

[@youtuber9566]

I've heard of Bleeding Kyber Crystal's. But to actually see it it's unbelievable.

[@expandleo8243]

One of the game's many "Oh SHIT" moments.

[@cybersoldierforever]

This is like watching a Greek tragedy.

[@shadowbladegmg]

This guy gave me Uldren Sov vibes

[@Jonrocks7]

Bout time that we get to see someone bleed a kyber!

[@kobeedragonking3800]

If Sidious sees this: "Ehehehhehehehehehe, good, good, late the hate flow through you. You will be far more useful for me as my Inquisitor."

[@peterseaboldt1250]

And then Lois Griffin shoves him down and says "You're not helping!"

[@elviraweekes3906]

Being for real he would actually make a deadly inquisitor a Jedi master level threat. That Cal couldn’t even beat him without using a trick to catch them off guard and jumping him.

[@gmaerliadgh]

So glad that the bleeding wasnt thrown away, when they made the comics non cannon I thought crystal bleeding would be scrapped to. Thank god it wasnt.

[@HenryLouis21]

Kyber Crystal bleeding is a new concept in the new canon, it wasn't a thing in the old legends canon.

[@gmaerliadgh]

@@HenryLouis21 It was. Bleeding was never mentioned in any of the movies, it was primarily the comics and the legends comics that have bleeding. In the new cannon Jedi Survivor has been the first time in a long time that we have had even mention of bleeding not to mention seeing the process.

[@Wolkebuch99]

​​@@gmaerliadgh no, Legends canon originally had the red crystals being artificial. Luke discovered a way of creating other colors artificially as well just before meeting Jabba, this bleeding the crystals is Disney-SW for the sequels

[@Alizudo]

The Bleeding was made by Disney specifically because they threw-away the synthetc crystal idea.

[@HenryLouis21]

@@Alizudo good because the synthetic crystal idea was boring, the bleeding of the crystals gave the kyber crystals more mystical proportions

[@Kalimatai17]

Had to explain what this meant to a friend and it blew their mind.

[@guywilliems6578]

Didn't notice it then but when he mentioned his duel with the Gen'dai he's referring to Rayvis

[@dragonel88]

1st guy: why he gotta turn his lightsaber into red? 2nd guy: to show that he's a bad guy now 1st: he still bad without doing that 2nd: trust me,kids love that. They'll give us good rating when we give what they like

[@nevermore7285]

It’s the symbol of it.

[@cristobaltaiba5031]

Rancisis? The Master Rancisis? He's that Old? Wow

[@thomaspaine7098]

Yes, wish we’d see more of him

[@Tjorvia]

more dark orange than red

[@lukeroberson2115]

"It was my home and they just expected me to throw it away." While I don't agree with Dagan, the raw pain in his voice makes me sympathize with him. Imagine building your dream home for decades, spending all these resources to make your dream a reality, and then your boss tells you to move to another state for your job. I can totally see why he would snap after everything that happened.

[@plumbus7253]

He did pretty easy, when earth Vader tried to bleed his crystal it blasted him back and gave him a vision of him turning to the light side again

[@MariaLopez-ti4oo]

I wonder if we will see more kyber crystal bleeding in the future of star wars as well seeing kyber crystals being purafided

[@r3gret2079]

Ya but thats more of a scrape type of bleeding. Kinda cute if you ask me. "Aw look, he's doin so good, my lil angry man."

[@Eric-yt7fp]

Fuck, I need to play these games.

[@voidokami1427]

Make woke up and chose violence

[@TM-hg4lv]

5:17-5:44 such powerful imperial like music…

[@chevyhero5365]

Personally I think they also need to include making a synthetic crystal like Luke did in ledgends

[@zygas25]

So thats how u bleed a crystal, ranting...while purfying requires a song...if visons counts as canon

[@mistressofdreams6031]

It does not and no bleeding a crystal requires forcefully pouring your hate directly into the crystal. Its just fast here because Dagan had centuries to develop his hate.

[@MaGIKzIIx]

5:35 dagans mouth moves as if lines were cut ? What do you guys think ?

[@jacoblansman8147]

My only question is - what does a Dark Jedi or Sith gain to stand from bleeding their crystals? I kinda get it with the Sith but Dagan is not a Sith, he's a Dark Jedi. He could have kept his crystal yellow.

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

Allegedly, Increased potency of the blade.

[@IlHansenIl]

Him turning away from the order makes sense. Him turning straight Sith does not.

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

Turning your saber red doesn’t make you a Sith. Dagan makes it clear he intends to make a new Jedi Order in his own image.

[@IlHansenIl]

@@MorallyDubiousFrog The significance of a red lightsaber is unmistakable. What advantage does bleeding a crystal do?

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@IlHansenIl It aligns the crystal with the dark side, which makes it a better tool for a dark side user.

[@IlHansenIl]

@@MorallyDubiousFrog Back to someone turning to the dark side then.

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

@@IlHansenIl There’s a difference between turning to the dark side and joining the Sith.

[@frewtioper3230]

Imagine if we would have the opptornuity to bleed cals crystal

[@Alizudo]

Apparently you get a red crystal if you _New Game+_

[@Tate_THG]

I wish we played as anyone other then Cal. Every antagonist is written so well.

[@R3TR0J4N]

Heh pretty cool, ngl

[@samalvey8168]

Defiler! Desecrator! Kyber crystals are not to be bled! It is unnatural, it hurts them!

[@drakkondarkspell]

That's the point. A bled crystal is in pain, it's been traumatized by hate and anger. It's now the perfect focus for a Sith/Dark Jedi who is in as much pain as the crystal. They harmonize and reflect each other's pain back at one another, building and seething like an open festering wound.

[@myria2834]

Kind of his own fault for waking up a human Jedi with extremely notable Dark Side veiny grey skin.

[@MorallyDubiousFrog]

He isn’t Grey skinned because of the dark side, he’s an alien.

[@Alizudo]

His pupils are slited, like a cat's. He's not human.

[@cheddarcheese9311]

I’m wondering what species Dagan belongs to

[@joemort349]

According to Wookiepedia he's from a race called Arkanian Offshoot-from a Star Wars comic or novel back in 2017

[@Alex-nr4xb]

Seriously though, all the Jedi he knew are dead and his first thought was to turn his lightsaber red to show he has turned to the dark side? lmao

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

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[@CojaGamez]

Have you seen the rest of the story? He was in opposition to the jedi beforr he was put into statis. As far as he was comcerned, the jedi being gone was a blessing

[@jordankuttler1859]

I didn’t know that the process of making a lightsaber crystal bleed comes from the new Disney canon… One of their few good ideas 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@D_Boone]

That's neat and all, but I kinda wish it wasn't such a simple process. He does it without a thought, compared to what we see in the Vadar comics, etc.

[@mistressofdreams6031]

He had hundreds of years to develop his hatred

[@Dr.Gaming98]

And on top of that, he was already familiar with the crystal because it was his. Vader’s kyber crystal was a stolen one

[@mistressofdreams6031]

@@Dr.Gaming98 oh damn didn’t know that one

[@FabledHeroes3351]

I don’t necessarily think Degan bled his crystal but maybe burned it I know that’s not a thing but the crystal was Orange like fire not Red like blood

[@umbrellazandthangz1539]

Hi, yes..i know this ain't the purpose of the damn video but may someone tell me the ourfit he has Cal wearing? Its SO COOL also weve never seen a Kyber Crystal bleed..badass

[@sunnyworldproductions4818]

Thank you Dagan Right now, i know how to do it

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

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[@SithScorp]

I understand that it was shown to be fast for dramatic effect. Bleeding (retuning) crystals was first introduced well before Disney took over and is not new. Tuning crystals was done in SWG twenty years ago.

[@kristofersvahn2061]

Well I looked it up and the bleeding first appeared in Darth Vader 2017 5 that was written by Charles Soule. Or are refering to something else I missed?

[@MonosEx]

Can someone explain the significance of "bleeding a crystal" to a humble newbie in the star wars lore?

[@krisdphillips]

Sith often would be initiated by stealing a Jedi's lightsaber after killing them, channeling the dark side into the crystal at the heart of the saber, and turning it red, thus "making it bleed".

[@MonosEx]

@@krisdphillips Was this just symbolic or it actually made the light-saber more powerful?

[@ChanceNavarro]

@@MonosEx That is what I want to know, too. It's super badass don't get me wrong, but is it merely a symbolic gesture to show the world that you're using the Dark Side?

[@richardbrooksshnee]

Depends on whose writing. It's either corrupting a real crystal into a synthetic, or it's forcing a vacuum of the force and then filling it with force of the force wielder(in all cases I'm aware of the "dark" side) making a blade attuned to them at that moment. The power question is purely a matter of where the reader/author falls on the is the dark side more powerful spectrum.

[@mr_yoru5834]

It's mostly symbolic. Kyber crystals are sacred, and the Jedi are highly protective of them. Due to their connection to the Force, they may even have some kind of limited consciousness. Corrupting them is like a huge sacrilege and a part of proving that the Sith is committed. If done improperly, the crystal could be damaged, which results in an unstable blade like Kylo Ren's. They can also be purified, which is how Ahsoka got her white blades. While the red crystals are attuned to the Dark side, and might offer some benefit for a Dark side user, on the whole they function just the same as a regular lightsaber.

[@waterbloom1213]

So you are telling me Yoda knew about this Tanalorr place and that he wore these bright looking clothes, then in the second movie he complains that Jedi are getting more arrogant? The clothes of the High Republic reek of arrogance to me compared to the outfits of the late republic. So do the rainbow spectrum lightsabers and their sophisticated style. Dont know if people working on Star Wars notice the narrative inconsistencies with George Lucas's vision.

[@MrWill9002]

Blame Kennedy. She feels people should be treated like idiots

[@Loadalama]

They just dont care. They probably dont even know about them

[@MrWill9002]

@@Loadalama I can certainly say that's true for Kennedy. Her actions are impossible to associate with her words (especially her saying featuring strong female characters when she clearly doesn't know how) unless I come to the conclusion that she's a COMPLETE IDIOT

[@hordakprime6172]

You are very right now that I think about it despite not reading any material of that Era it does come off as pretentious rather than a golden age.

[@TempestGhost]

I don’t think Yoda was around during the time of the High Republic. Granted he can live centuries but it’s unclear if he was part of the Council by then.

[@justinbryant2180]

What happened to the whole sith uses red crystal for their lightsaber

[@Nathan-cr8ck]

they gotta use common sense more often that is the most sith lord mf I've ever seen

[@cristobaltaiba5031]

Many Legends Crybabys in this comment section isn't??

[@mistressofdreams6031]

Ohhh yeah there are

[@CojaGamez]

Literally everything star wars these days has legends people up in arms

[@joshanator7825]

So did Dagans saber not leave behind a force echo, trillas saber did and cal pick and saw all the evil things she did with it, how come dagans didn’t do the same?

[@sniperdude12a]

Getting to see him bleed his crystal was pretty special

[@jerbwood]

He didn't have time to truly bleed the crystal so it appears with an orange hue. At least that's how I'm seeing it and no one is changing my mind.

[@alexandermaxwell9099]

Haha i saw an amazing theory video which tried to say bleeding your lightsaber and making orange lightsaber is a sign of “righteous Fury” and that’s MY head canon

[@robertcooper4434]

Wait wait wait so does bleeding the crystal make the saber stronger. Or it just changes the color to red.

[@Gyarretto7]

Changes the color to red: It's a practice of the Sith

[@raptorzeraora2632]

1:15 what in the world is happening here?

[@cheddarcheese9311]

What species does dagan belong to?

[@Cody68]

I remember when there was no such things as "bleeding a Kyber crystal". Red crystals used by Sith were just synthetic crystals

[@thetntmster9207]

When he bled it did turn red or slightly orange?

[@mistressofdreams6031]

Red, the lighting is bad

[@darkshogun5887]

I've seen all the movies and some episodes of the various animated series but I still don't understand why darkside users choose to use red lightsabers.

[@jaegar2786]

Because it is embedded with dark side energy, bolstering their own dark side abilities.

[@richardbrooksshnee]

Symbology. Though a synthetic or 'bled' crystal is attuned to the force nature of their creator at the time of creation. They don't need to be red, but the sith do like them to be.

[@vt6122]

@darkshogun Because the color red (Bled crystal or Synthetic crystal) symbolises there Hate and rage and power that dark side users have. So that's why Sith adopt red as there preferred color😊

[@redace4821]

In universe is all of that, but outside of universe, while making Star Wars, in order to separate bad guys from good guys, their saber need to be different as well. Red associates with bad and Blue, Green is with good. So Sith gets red saber.

[@Dr.Gaming98]

@@redace4821don’t forget yellow, magenta, purple, orange, etc

[@alpborakirte801]

Its still not crimson red

[@_Anakin_Skywalker]

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[@ThePointlessBox_]

Honestly, Grievous's origin story, Dagan and Dooku you kinda come to the conclusion that the jedi order had it coming

[@Darth_Xionn]

The Jedi didn't have it coming, they just weren't perfect.

[@richardendresz161]

If I was Cal the moment he started bleeding the Crystal I would have cut his head off. Not taking any chances

[@nameisblob]

I still don't get the purpose of bleeding the crystal, should have just kept the yellow orange color

[@fyzxnerd]

It's symbolic in nature. The Kyber crystals were considered sacred symbols of a jedi's connection to the force, and for some, their doctrines around the force. Dagan in this, his first act after being freed, is bleeding his crystal to show that he's forsaking the Jedi, their doctrines, and is fueled by his ambition and anger. It's like tearing off a patch, but in a deeply spiritual sense.

[@IRMentat]

First time I didn’t outright dismiss the “bleeding a crystal” thing as a purely emo gimmick. Ironic given the antagonist in this scene, due respect to the VA. I still prefer the synthetic crystal thing for larger sith and even Jedi periods. Kyber should be well enough researched in those eras to justify it and not everyone can justify time for a sabbatical to hunt for s personal crystal attachment, neither (flawed) creed really goes in for attachment like that. The saver is a hard to use tool that benefits meditation and self control, that it can bounce the most commonly used other weapons is a massive additional benefit but it’s a symbol as part of the force user as it is a well honed tool.

[@HarleyQuinn_93]

I knew he was going to turn bad. The way he was acting just gave me a bad feeling.