Remember, if you are like me and not pushing plat - be kind and pit a weak defense down, it helps everyone speed farm (no solo armanz, paragon, or stone skin mortu- that's not kind)
@Tymelost5 ай бұрын
pass.. rather my alaz in stone skin lel solo 400k teams
@chrispellbois64985 ай бұрын
I put a decent def all the time .. usually free wins for anyone that knows the game(which should be the case in g5) Id rather help other learn to counter X,Y or A+B champ meta or Z comp .. all while leaving the room for them to win (not using top gear or best builds , sometime unbooked and low res)
@damiandasgnu49934 ай бұрын
@@chrispellbois6498 Nobody's going to build or regear a team to counter yours, they're just gonna press refresh. For me personally I keep the strategizing to tag arena where it brings much more value.
@GrowlieDave6 ай бұрын
Great hall, live arena buff and whatever they bring in for the new content. They need to double the token drops or half the cost as it gets ridiculous for new players to try to clear all of that. I know so many players that claimed Arbiter and dialed back on arena.
@yes38586 ай бұрын
I was ready for arɓiter, then saw the 200 wins requirement... already have medals for level 10, lol
@therealnecromancer12316 ай бұрын
i agreed, i do at least 5 a day and sit at whatever the max gold rank is before platinum, only 2 great hall bonuses maxed so far
@Antoan_J6 ай бұрын
As new player you need to push with gems to gold, then clear 1 champ deffenders. Its not that hard, but you need to invest few gems into that :) then its extremely fast.
@soulstice946 ай бұрын
live arena medals not gaining value based on tier is really annoying. Silver should be worth 2x Bronze, and Gold 2x more than Silver just like classic arena. BUT YES, also reduce the cost of upgrades would be real nice
@astralb.26476 ай бұрын
@Antoan_J Yup. In gold IV and V, there's a lot of single champion teams. Most of those are easily beatable unless it's a super OP mythical/legendary with 400 speed or something. Silver 4 was the hardest tier to get through, imo
@FroTheK5 ай бұрын
I used Mikage in my fastest gear along with Skullcrown and Sinesha (last spot depending on the opponent, but used Valkyrie most of the times to maybe cut in if I wasn't the fastest). It was a 1 second fight, not 100% ofc, but I loved how fast it was. I have stopped using this comp after I got the King and Queen though, not as fast, but a lot more consistent, especially up around platinum.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching ;)
@meg665 ай бұрын
I definitely want to build a blender someday. For now I'm taking advantage of my 5 star Eostrid and just running a standard nuke with my very first void Lego, Narses. He counters so many popular comps it's made it easy to burn all of my tokens every day. Not uncommon to go through and beat all 10 teams on the lineup in G5. Monster.
@7heAlphAOmegA6 ай бұрын
"Sheeping" a champion wearing stone skin instantly removes that stone skin EVERY SINGLE TIME
@t-love83516 ай бұрын
unless resistance is high enough.
@hannas23425 ай бұрын
That's why they are nerfing sheep via that new set. So f2p can no longer counter whales stone skin...
@jamesrumsey20825 ай бұрын
@@hannas2342 depends if u want to progress fast. I am f2P, u dont have to fight those people. And u dont have to be in a high Tier. That's your choice. Aslong as u are active u can find enough easy fights. Untill they nerf that. Suppose it depends what u want from there. Stay safe
@bigfinesse28025 ай бұрын
Build high resistance
@billbuyers86834 ай бұрын
@@hannas2342 true but if only whales have fun, whales will only be fighting whales which is not fun for the whales
@freshlysaltedfishing85006 ай бұрын
Your editor is a flipping monster
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Glad you like it :)
@t-love83516 ай бұрын
blender is the greatest open source 3d and animation software, now it helps with maxing the great hall, too! there are no limits to this program. XD
@skorpion71325 ай бұрын
Unlike this here champ combo-strategy, I actually do know and greatly use the 3d modeling program!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
😆
@marcinkapinski95375 ай бұрын
11:00 It's a common bug when Mithrala is in battle. It si somehow connected to her petrify passive. Sometimes petrified enemies keep standing after being killed and the models can either remain petrified or not petrified and they keep standing there.
@justinu45216 ай бұрын
I swear to god 99 percent of vids I watch on this game about champs, builds, teams, or best champ. I literally don’t have. This game is ridiculous
@tiffanyfraser15535 ай бұрын
90% of champions are copy paste of other champions but either a bit better or worst
@justinu45215 ай бұрын
@@tiffanyfraser1553 is right now best time to open sacred shards?
@vitruviuslegowizardwolfe99135 ай бұрын
skill issue, im a f2p player and have ammassed quite a lot of epics and legendaries by playing smart :/
@justinu45215 ай бұрын
@@vitruviuslegowizardwolfe9913 I pulled 60 shards on a 2x and got 4 epics lol. Idk how you skill that
@vitruviuslegowizardwolfe99135 ай бұрын
@@justinu4521 dude that sucks, honestly wait for 150 shards guaranteed champ. Chances are you’ll hit mercy before the guaranteed champ and get at least 2 legos
@uwillnevahno68376 ай бұрын
The Great Hall is a painfully slow grind. I'm like 3 yrs in and still not maxxed. This game just keeps adding content, the content has instances, the instances don't autocomplete and that is the #1 Quality of Life improvement we need.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in :)
@sohinidutta974 ай бұрын
I agree!! It feels like I am running the game all day just to complete the daily tasks in this game! Don't even have time to do the fun stuff anymore.
@lowkeylauki6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty confident that something about Mithrilla causes this bug; sometimes champs stay on screen even after dying.
@Sam-uu2nx6 ай бұрын
Ive seen tons of that lately. Plus animations just not going. Enemies will just float over to me and float back 😂 and then I'm dead all of a sudden 😂
@lowkeylauki5 ай бұрын
@@Sam-uu2nx true that :D. I don't know if everybody faces this.
@mysticflow4675 ай бұрын
truee
@sohinidutta974 ай бұрын
I've also seen this in dark fae. The champion doubles stay on there even after you kill them.
@jasonsepulveda13716 ай бұрын
Blender comps have never gone anywhere.
@alphaomega83735 ай бұрын
Thats all newbie have.
@niklashappe89786 ай бұрын
I have been using Blender comp with Lonatharil, since I pulled him 1 month ago and Lonatharil carries me hard in alot of content (Arena, Dungeons like Fire knight, Hydra, Doom tower (scarab king) and cursed city) .
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@niklashappe89785 ай бұрын
@@ASH-RAID Love your content
@Adlwinn835 ай бұрын
Im big into speed blender comps for arena. Don't think they ever went anywhere. I don't use ally attackers though. vs most: Arbiter (fastest) - Arix - Madame Serris (2nd fastest) - Sun Wukong vs tankier teams: Arbiter - Leorius - Madame Serris - Sun Wukong I'd be very interested to try out Fenax if i could get him. Mid-game player and haven't pulled him yet.
@anesgones99306 ай бұрын
9:38 that high is high!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
😅
@rafaelfernandes68556 ай бұрын
I got fatman when I started playing like 3~4 months ago, im so happy with him, hes great on so many areas
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching ;)
@carlosortega73166 ай бұрын
The Scyl edit at 5:30 🤣
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
😆
@toddchristiansen14416 ай бұрын
Something you should mention whenever you talk about Fenax: Warmaster procs do NOT count as his A1 killing an enemy, so that Block Revive won't be applied if the Warmaster proc kills them. Obvious, I know, and you shouldn't be using Warmaster in PvP anyway, but it's worth a call out, since you make so many videos for new players.
@l3loodR4IN6 ай бұрын
Good tip
@lambsauce85456 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure it’s the same for phantom touch
@Revilo4036 ай бұрын
@@lambsauce8545 this is also true
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@strategywizard6 ай бұрын
Yep, I agree with you on "Lost." Such an amazing show! It's been years, but it still stands the test of time, IMHO!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in :)
@OGTinyTinCans6 ай бұрын
Stop! Just watch 5:32-5:34 on loop!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 this is the best clip editing I’ve ever seen!!!!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
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@JohnDoe-jj4qd5 ай бұрын
I pulled fenax during the 2x legendary event lol. It was my first one so I wanted to try it over the 2x event but I got mostly epics out of the legend event which was weird because I don't ever get that many during 2x events.
@ashe_skylar5 ай бұрын
13:20 tormin is absolutely making a comeback! I recently pulled him and am currently using him all over the place. And I’m starting to face him way more in arena too! He’s just such a monster it’s amazing
@vanillagorrilla5 ай бұрын
Always love watching my boi ash 👊🏻
@johnF71515 ай бұрын
I've noticed the weak hits conspiracy 😂 I'm serious tho. I've noticed Ragash doesn't weak hit as often even against magic affinity he normal hits more often than most other champs. I even tested the theory a bit while farming masteries and in Dragon. I used other bad affinity matchup examples like Astralon against force dragon lvl 21. Anyways you get the point. I believe it's very real. Also noticed Criodans freezes work more often than almost every freeze champ even tho he's an epic with less chance. Say what you want. I plan by these tricks I've learned tho
@stenbric5 ай бұрын
Been using Fenax as Blender aswell... One thing I've noticed tho is when you ally atk WuKong and Fenax going last he usualy won't go at all becuase Wukong can't take dmg and will die before Fenax turn
@Pryor19736 ай бұрын
I like the way you are just enjoying the fights you are doing. I love Fenax too, I use him so much.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
@BigManAtta5 ай бұрын
Rn im running arbiter(324 spd and 5s blessing i won from the tourney), lady mikage(302 spd and 400acc) , armanz ( 270 spd 450 acc) , sun wukong ( 230 cdmg, 6k atk and 200 acc, 165 spd, no savage). Ik monkey build sucks so sometimes he dosent do much dmg with his a3 but mikage ally atk brings someone down low enough and a2 can finish everyone. This team has lost like 10 battles in 2 months with maybe 300 battles against good ( really good) teams.
@KwanzaaJuice5 ай бұрын
Maybe this'll finally be the blender video where someone finally explains wtf blender means
@KwanzaaJuice5 ай бұрын
Nope it is not
@shortylord4205 ай бұрын
@@KwanzaaJuice a blender comp is a team functioning around an ally attack champion (fahrakin, mikage etc) a speed boost with as high speed as possible and 2 damage dealers generally with aoe a1 abilities
@KwanzaaJuice5 ай бұрын
@@shortylord420 Why is it called blender?
@SunnyGo90005 ай бұрын
@@KwanzaaJuice possibly due to the ally attack.. ally attack champ is the blender or the base, and the allies are the combined/blended ingredients. Or the enemies are the ingredients and your allies are blades that shred your opponents to pieces? Hope that helps as I've never seen why it's called a blender team either.
@shortylord4205 ай бұрын
@@KwanzaaJuice it's just a community nickname for the type of comp, either of Sunnys answers could be correct.
@patrickgagnon82075 ай бұрын
Thanks again, very appreciated Very well explained 👌
@noahfauth58056 ай бұрын
Ash I you could have used padraig too! He brings the ally attack and the increase attack on his passive (or any other nuking buff you may need)! Just another option!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@atiqbaqi5 ай бұрын
Fenax is a beast, using him now a days like similar blender comp, I use ghostborn to tackle high resist team.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in ;)
@kal-el87645 ай бұрын
It's the sound effects for me hahaha 🎉
@beansandcheese10285 ай бұрын
Good update on a relevant topic.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man! Glad you like it ;)
@DanielSanchez-xg8hr5 ай бұрын
Blender is back ? Never stopped for me lol! I've been using budget blender (in order, please) Arbiter, Basilisk, Longbeard, Fellhound for more than a year... farming Gold4-5 and usually around 140 wins for less than 5 losses per week. (FAR from finishing GH still...)
@Sam-uu2nx6 ай бұрын
Ughhhhh 1 more month ill have Arix. I miss a lot of days 😅 definitely should have her by now
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@Pokervibes5 ай бұрын
My team is 2 to 10 seconds: Arbitrer, Mikage, Kymar and Baron. Full auto. It depends if adversaries have stone skin or not: 2s without, 10s if they have. 4 years and not fully completed yet... 😢 Miss a few ones
@DaPredz5 ай бұрын
Have my fenax at +1. Waiting for a few more. If i see monkey, i switch gala out for him and i just laugh every time i see 'unbeatable wukong', then crickets. Its soooo satisfying.
@Belsteak5 ай бұрын
I use Skullcrown, arix, fatman and kymar. If kymar can start, he can remove all buffs of enemies and then, mega full attack... ha and Kymar is in stun set... ^^
@miguelmichaelides59356 ай бұрын
I've got Farhakin from a prismal pull and he is great for almost every part of the game....huge upgrade...
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@reesofraft41665 ай бұрын
i think when asking what comps we use for a blender - it would be nice to even have an idea what you even mean with blender?!
@lewismoore62496 ай бұрын
Just pulled a 6* soul for fenax!!! Can’t wait to unleash
@cryptfire31586 ай бұрын
no human is capable to handle that much power. (here is where we insert the movie clip of ironman putting on the infinity stones glove).
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Congrats!
@fpsNoxxy5 ай бұрын
hey quick question my goat, what music do you use when you pull legos in shard openings? love you and the content
@stonecoldjam6 ай бұрын
400 speed arbiter how how how
@patrickk14174 ай бұрын
Gotta work your quads.
@gamingreese88446 ай бұрын
Thank you Ash I love your videos and I actually have all these champions. Also one thing I think raid should do is have events where everything is half stamina 👀👀👀
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in ;)
@joshjoas9276 ай бұрын
i literally dropped arbiter for grand oak... he feels so much better, especially in stone skin ... speed/turn meter/cleanse/and all buffs, and ALLY ATTCK. if i want a rez there so many other ones
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching :)
@SOYTeoYT5 ай бұрын
I use faraking, mediadora, skull crown and shinesa
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in :)
@SOYTeoYT5 ай бұрын
@@ASH-RAID :3
@ramchDash5 ай бұрын
In arena they should increase points or double hit somethings for players. That will help for many player's
@_multiversegaming5 ай бұрын
fenax is also good for ice golem
@joecuddington32055 ай бұрын
If I'm running Mikage with Arix and Fenax I think I would Oboro as I have one that is built to hit like a truck.
@RicoLen15 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I was hoping when I saw this video you were going to highlight the houndmaster with 400+ speed and 3 fellhounds on the team.
@astralb.26476 ай бұрын
I need to update my soul wishlist to include Fenax, it seems! Never knew he was THAT good!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Good luck, I hope you get it soon :)
@premyslboucky235 ай бұрын
Raise sallary for your editor. He makes your videos extremely funny
@kekwlegends_rsl6 ай бұрын
Great video - can't wait for part 2 where you showcase the blender strategy in Arena
@jamesgish92026 ай бұрын
?
@kekwlegends_rsl6 ай бұрын
@@jamesgish9202 ?
@tiffanyfraser15535 ай бұрын
Did you watch the video
@kekwlegends_rsl5 ай бұрын
@@tiffanyfraser1553 did you?
@damnitsnolo6 ай бұрын
Hey ash great video. I have longbeard. Is he viable?
6 ай бұрын
Yes!
@jamesgish92026 ай бұрын
Yes
@jamesgish92026 ай бұрын
I have 3 lol
@mike03car5 ай бұрын
Looking for arena help for newer guys. I'm barely two months into the game. My high rating right now is Silver II. Otherwise, great video and I hope to find it again when I have the champions and artifacts mentioned.
@sadsway6 ай бұрын
Ash you are looking handsome today my man!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@Rocky-Fl6 ай бұрын
Good one. I really love Fenax especially since empower was a thing. I have a 5 star Fenax with Crushing rend.. Do you think its a good one for 5 stars?
@biljancanin6 ай бұрын
For me, my Baron is my damage dealer in my fast team. Other than that, if i see a team that is maybe tankie, Ankora and Narses do the deed with some help of whoever is the best suited
@ashleylittle67766 ай бұрын
I love taking on blender defence team! Mortu lead in stone skin tormen sun wukong and pythion in a bolster set! Whenever these teams are highlighted it should be stressed that the blender comp isn't an option for defense! Its easy to best!
@zachhaist64266 ай бұрын
Its true. Put in tanks and annoying champs to deter incoming attacks
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in ;)
@decur86 ай бұрын
When do we fight? Did I miss it? How do you get the items to build and trade?
@joecandioglos54056 ай бұрын
Yay...a comp I can do...just not at the numbers of Ash. Will need to work on getting some better speed gear as my arbiter is only at 302.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Good luck!
@Overseerdv4 ай бұрын
@ASH: RAID Shadow Legends I have Mikage, but still run arbiter as lead for the speed advantage; maybe i missed it, but who would you have to get the speed lead advantage back and run added AOE since Mikage would replace arbiter??
@Keuryllian6 ай бұрын
I have a +3 Inithwe to prevent resurrection, Armanz with over 350 speed, and arena is still tiring.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for tuning in :)
@RydarkVoyager6 ай бұрын
I don't really care about the stats (RE: Fahrakin). At 251 speed, he's already faster than anything I have, LOL.
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching ;)
@breezyphontain96866 ай бұрын
I don't have fat man, but I use lanakis the chosen for my ally attack. I'm still fairly new. So the only time I can really win is if I can go first. Mostly as long as I can take that reviver out. I have a chance
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching ;)
@soulforge786 ай бұрын
Yeah how about the grind to arbiter
@rez41486 ай бұрын
If you have jizmack you will be good for arena
@Daniel123sz6 ай бұрын
How that team will be working without Arbiter, and Fanax? Gorgorab and Big Un can replace them?
@Qugie5 ай бұрын
This Video is Just in time today I have a +4 Fahrakin and I don't even use him in arena
@shaunmock86575 ай бұрын
would Inithwe be a better option than Fenax or possibly Bloodgorged?
@Sam-uu2nx6 ай бұрын
I swear if my Siegfrund would ally attack with his a2 😂 i would of went blender months ago. Ive always wanted to but you know, that pesky stoneskin. Granted i think with a plus 4 Skullcrown and Sinesha it might get through some stoneskin. But i don't spend anymore sooo my shard count is down
@gheorghepaveliuc53456 ай бұрын
Please, when you show a team that is supposed to be for everyone, then do not use items that put you at 500k power. With those items you can beat the guys even with rares. Make it more F2P friendly, maybe someone like me can use the strategy as well. Best :)
@sneaselweasel49875 ай бұрын
He’s just showing the potential of the team. You can still use the strategy just tune it around your gear…you can’t ask him to show a weaker version when he’s an overall strong player generally…he doesn’t keep weak gear and neither do I
@killisecond6 ай бұрын
Which blessing would you recommend for a blender? I have 6* Skull/Sinesha with phantom touch? It looks like you're running crushing rend on Fenax?
@BigManAtta5 ай бұрын
Crushing rend 6s is always better than phantom touch
@tobiasdye70076 ай бұрын
He weights way more than 300lbs. 300lbs is fit wrestler weight. Yokozuna was 500+. He weighs several tons lol
@wldandcrzyguy5 ай бұрын
What is blender? How do you use it? Where's it located?? What if you don't have Arbiter? Fatman always dies on me, he's not really good for me. How do you get him and the others to be that good???
@muzzsteam28695 ай бұрын
Yeah no problem Ash.. i'll just grab my 400+ speed Arbiter out of the vault
@billynerenberg36326 ай бұрын
You mentioned Mikage replaces Arbiter and Fatman. I get fatman, but how does she replace Arbiter as a speed lead??
@anthony76976 ай бұрын
She doesn't - it opens up for a different speed booster while replacing her Increase Attack, or forgoing one because when you get to the speed levels he's running - you can basically pass on using a speed booster on teams. Even after all these years my Arbiter is just under 300 speed - meaning even with her speed lead and all - his team would still wipe mine without Arbiter because his Fatman is faster by about 20 or so speed once you factor everything in.
@tgbelmas6 ай бұрын
i Agree. i feel like my fenax weak hits armanz alot, but that damn mortu macab always crits on my armanz...
@freshlysaltedfishing85006 ай бұрын
Ohhh this is the team you were talking about that beat you huh?
@Im_Chunky6 ай бұрын
Build for glaicad of the meltwater please
@jamesgish92026 ай бұрын
Yes I just pulled him about an hour ago from prism shards. Can't wait to get him in hydra
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Sure- I will try to make it happen soon :)
@killisecond6 ай бұрын
390 speed Fatman+2/Arix/SkullCrown+1/Sinesha+1. This team looks familiar... Since I suggested it to you on twitter last year!
@kekwlegends_rsl6 ай бұрын
also if that's what the HH optimizer came up with for Arix either you have no gear or hadey boy needs to recalibrate his tools a bit you use what you have I guess
@Gre-unit6 ай бұрын
This is a really good guide for new players since they'll try this with Galek and realize they fucked their account by choosing him.
@billbuyers86834 ай бұрын
Sun Wukong just polymorphs Fenex anyway
@Turtleshellon6 ай бұрын
Raid Gods please send me the FatMan!
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
I hope you get him soon :)
@Sodamachine625 ай бұрын
I love arix so much
@swedishchef40035 ай бұрын
So.. that idea of a team relies totally on "the fat man" - and since I don't have him.. I have to WAIT.. or is there a similar team that could work?? I have the rest of the first team.. Fenax.. Arix.. and Arbiter
@chriswaddle74506 ай бұрын
I'll take my 7 second arbiter Vlad serris golden reaper
@jeffreyrayborn18715 ай бұрын
looks like a nice team . but i will never be at that(your) level! i dont have any empowered heros!
@zachbingham73585 ай бұрын
Fahrakin is def over 300lbs.
@No1Hodgepodge6 ай бұрын
2nd fight didn’t even need to speed boost. Kill torman first and done
@RottBit775 ай бұрын
15 days to go to get my last 15 frags from the daily logins.. So who else instead of Arix?!
@geminiman61286 ай бұрын
1:40 I think 300 might be a bit too high. Maybe 250-270
@jamesgish92026 ай бұрын
I was gonna comment and say he's more
@PvtSchlock5 ай бұрын
I need some remedial vids since I can't make heads or tails out of this. I've seen a few of these but it's like wtf?
@IndianaNature5 ай бұрын
So you mean if you have an all star team, and have been able to get awesome gear and jewelry, and your team has +4 leggos on it you can farm the great hall fast. Well, no shit.
@GorchaxGaming6 ай бұрын
i have had fenax's block revive resisted by Wu-kong quite a few times. No WM or GS. Very annoying.
@IsntItOblivious6 ай бұрын
I have a 100% win rate in arena for Gold V, I use every single free refill you can per day. I am a level 100 player, and I also come first in about 80-90% of arena tournaments due to cursed city and other inbox saves. I began playing this game in 2022. I am still not with a fully complete great hall. These videos shouldn't exist. Meta doesn't matter. Nothing matters for great hall farming, only your time. And that does not compete with how much you need. All arena needs to be reworked.
@l3loodR4IN6 ай бұрын
You're yapping and not even in plat? Lol
@whom3826 ай бұрын
Never went away so it can't be back.
@DiggyDiamond246 ай бұрын
Man I Still Need Alot Work On My Great Hall
@ASH-RAID5 ай бұрын
Good luck :)
@rawcanuck6625 ай бұрын
I was getting excited until I saw +4 fatman and speed of 360 plus speed of 402 for Arbiter...I am still far off from obtaining those speed numbers.