Stranger Things 4x7 REACTION!! "Chapter Seven: The Massacre at Hawkins Lab"

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Blind Wave

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@BlindWave
@BlindWave 2 жыл бұрын
Check out our Reaction to Stranger Things 4x8 out on our Patreon now at www.patreon.com/blindwave Our Reaction to the finale episode of Stranger Things 4x9 will be posted on Patreon next week. Thanks for your patience as we scrambled to get this series done asap! Raw Rider Patrons can watch the Full Length Reaction HERE: blindwavellc.com/stranger-things-4x07-full/
@seanwilliams7716
@seanwilliams7716 2 жыл бұрын
React to Demonic Toys
@iris-xo
@iris-xo 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all are late
@seanwilliams7716
@seanwilliams7716 2 жыл бұрын
@@iris-xo late for what 🤔
@zeus982
@zeus982 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanwilliams7716 they are still two episodes from the end and the season finished a week ago
@seanwilliams7716
@seanwilliams7716 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeus982 oh ok
@MrDyl666
@MrDyl666 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like eric saying he could be a young palpatine is one of the best compliments he could give
@Faction.Paradox
@Faction.Paradox 2 жыл бұрын
Young Sheev, coming to CBS this fall!
@chrisjarvis4097
@chrisjarvis4097 2 жыл бұрын
@@Faction.Paradox more like Disney+
@Faction.Paradox
@Faction.Paradox 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisjarvis4097 Obviously I was joking with my first comment, but if done right a Sideous rise to power CG miniseries could be great.
@TheNinjaBees
@TheNinjaBees 2 жыл бұрын
Dude for real. A Darth Plagius adaptation, he would absolutely ROCK a younger Sheev apprentice role
@Narutoanime16g
@Narutoanime16g 2 жыл бұрын
It is on point
@sina3602
@sina3602 2 жыл бұрын
What I find so impressive about this is that the actor for 001 basically played 3 different characters and he killed it for each one. He gave off really sweet and gentle but yet slightly creepy vibes as the orderly, straight up psychopath as 001 and a literal monster as vecna. I couldn't imagine anyone else doing it like him tbh
@jneumy566
@jneumy566 2 жыл бұрын
He's got probably the best evil face I've ever seen in a villain. I love that evil scowl he does
@ultimatecultchaos
@ultimatecultchaos Жыл бұрын
Wdym 3?
@sina3602
@sina3602 Жыл бұрын
@@ultimatecultchaos like I explained in my original comment: 1. friendly Orderly 2. not so friendly Henry/001 and 3. the gross creature Vecna. They might be the same person but they require very different approaches to the roles. They could very well just be completely different characters that had nothing to do with each other lol
@ultimatecultchaos
@ultimatecultchaos Жыл бұрын
@@sina3602 ok
@TheFiddler69
@TheFiddler69 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie Campbell Bower as young Palpy? Fun fact, he also played young Grindelwald in the Harry Potter series, so he already has a knack for those kinda roles
@KayaaaaDe
@KayaaaaDe 2 жыл бұрын
He has a creepy vibe. So he rocks these kind of roles
@kingofkings9142
@kingofkings9142 2 жыл бұрын
How is ur comment 3 wk ago but this video is 4 hrs ago😅
@nandishsenpai4646
@nandishsenpai4646 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofkings9142 patreon early access
@captainteeko4579
@captainteeko4579 2 жыл бұрын
AND he can sing! He was in Sweeney Todd :) that’s what I know him from 🤗
@DarthDimadome
@DarthDimadome 2 жыл бұрын
He could pull off a Tom Riddle/Voldemort incarnation if Harry Potter ever gets remade.
@PhotonCommander97
@PhotonCommander97 2 жыл бұрын
It's a great twist cause it's four different characters turning out to be the same person (the orderly, 001, Creel's son, Vecna), at various points I thought of different combinations but never occurred to me they're *all* the same person
@azrael_pendragon
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
Who is the orderly?
@ek3241
@ek3241 Жыл бұрын
​@@azrael_pendragonOrderly means the guy that's working at the lab, 001 basically
@azrael_pendragon
@azrael_pendragon Жыл бұрын
@@ek3241 oh
@iwillcry
@iwillcry 2 жыл бұрын
Jamie Campbell Bower's monologue in this episode was amazing. His eyes conveyed so much anger and disgust.
@Gunnhfran2
@Gunnhfran2 2 жыл бұрын
I had guessed he was one, thought he was vecna but was so shocked about the twist that he was victor’s kid
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 2 жыл бұрын
From basically every reaction i've seen, basically everyone got part of the truth correct, in different variants. Personally i made the guess that One/001 was Vecna, when he said that "One had met a tragic fate", but did not at all realise that the "Friendly Orderly" was speaking of himself.
@-avery-7562
@-avery-7562 2 жыл бұрын
somehow i guessed that he was 001 and i got the kid twist, but i didnt figure out he was vecna
@renuzui
@renuzui 2 жыл бұрын
Blind Wave’s detective skills are A+ as usual.....first reactors I’ve watched who guessed One/Vecna was also Henry Creel 😭
@Cs-cp6vo
@Cs-cp6vo 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. My theory was that Vecna was using one’s body since Victor never saw him
@W0NK042
@W0NK042 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@scoobiroobiroo
@scoobiroobiroo 2 жыл бұрын
"That was metal" OH MAN I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE YOUR REACTIONS!............if you know you know
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
YEEEPPP!!! Lol Loved that moment!!
@justahumblebountyhunter2904
@justahumblebountyhunter2904 2 жыл бұрын
Most metal ever!!
@christinar7900
@christinar7900 2 жыл бұрын
Ha. As soon as I saw the actor, Jaime Campbell Bower, in the first episode credits the theories began. Definitely theorized everything separately but didn’t expect it to come together like that. He is great in this role.
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta say he's one of the best acted villains i've seen in a while, he was terrifying in just his human form, not even including Vecna
@BootyWonka
@BootyWonka 2 жыл бұрын
No u didn't
@7Link7
@7Link7 2 жыл бұрын
The Creels died in 1959, Henry was like seven-ten. Jane then met ''One'' in 1979... So Henry is like max thirty in '79...
@renuzui
@renuzui 2 жыл бұрын
His birthday is officially listed as 1947 because there is a newspaper article in the third episode that states he was 12 at the time of the murders. Meaning he would’ve been 32 in 1979 and is about 39 in 1986.
@michellehawk282
@michellehawk282 2 жыл бұрын
@@renuzui Also Jamie Campbell Bower (the actor who plays One) is 33 so it actually works out well.
@Randomyoutubecommenter
@Randomyoutubecommenter 2 жыл бұрын
Vecna aged nicely
@chikihando2483
@chikihando2483 2 жыл бұрын
@@Randomyoutubecommenter like a rotten meat
@finsanityxi140
@finsanityxi140 2 жыл бұрын
Could be 11’s dad 🫣
@EllioColeman
@EllioColeman 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Jamie Campbell Bower appreciation, he’s been in so many things but never gets the recognition he deserves. He so good at playing both sides, good and bad. I love him, I loved from since 2012
@jpwphoenix1701
@jpwphoenix1701 2 жыл бұрын
I seem to recall seeing somewhere that "Enzo" is really called Dimitri. "Enzo" was just his codename for contacting Joyce.
@guinep
@guinep 2 жыл бұрын
and it was the name of the restaurant that Joyce and Hopper were supposed to meet at for their date - Enzo's
@denchhhhhhh
@denchhhhhhh 2 жыл бұрын
about jamie campbell bower aka vecna/001: when rick said you don't get an actor that good and not have them play an important role, that's exactly what i told my bf when JCB first showed up this season! my first thought right away when i saw his name in the opening credits was "wait wow he's in this??" lol. the show really did a great job of casting JCB as vecna. he has that uncanny aura in him yet he can turn on the charm. he was also in the mortal instruments, fantastic beasts, and twilight, but i'm glad his appearance on this show is getting him all the hype he deserves. such a cool actor
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 жыл бұрын
Was he in Fantastic Beasts? I know he was in Deathly Hallows as young Grindelwald, but I don't remember him in Beasts. He also was in Sweeny Todd
@pthespidey5057
@pthespidey5057 2 жыл бұрын
They can hear voices in upside down.. that's something they showed in s1 when will used to communicate he used to listen his mom and then reply back with flickering lights. The trick is to be near a light source to communicate
@AndrewInmanartist
@AndrewInmanartist 2 жыл бұрын
This episode's reveal was done great. Having 1 and 11 being identical and both having the same powers makes me look forward to their final confrontation. Also giving an explanation that Brenner's question, "What have you done?" is probably about her freeing 1's power. Ties into first season when she does escape, she uses the route that he showed her and the method he did to defend herself at the end of season one when they try to take her back. Which is why the military believe she's responsible for the deaths.
@Stumpcollects
@Stumpcollects 2 жыл бұрын
i think 1 absorbed 11 powers when the mind flayer bit her
@GodBear97
@GodBear97 2 жыл бұрын
Steve and Eddie bonding over Dustin is perfect
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! Wonderful scene!
@jakesnake244
@jakesnake244 2 жыл бұрын
The actor who plays 001/Vecna was also a young Grindelwald in the Deathly Hallows
@Commander_Shepard.
@Commander_Shepard. 2 жыл бұрын
He should have played the character in Fantastic Beasts.
@pablolacalle6098
@pablolacalle6098 2 жыл бұрын
I know a lot of people caught onto it and I feel a little dumb for not putting it together as quickly, but Vecna's reveal was really well done, super solid and didn't at all feel flubbed or unearned to me
@kingofkings9142
@kingofkings9142 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man... Im fukin dumbo.... But i enjoyed the reveal.
@ChyeahWill
@ChyeahWill 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes all these theorising and figuring it out can ruin the experience. It helps to be a bit dumb 😂.
@Seissmo
@Seissmo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChyeahWill I agree. I think going full detective can be distracting at times. It may be myself coping from not being able to realize that Vecna was Henry Creel but I think it’s true.
@ChrisDixon__
@ChrisDixon__ 2 жыл бұрын
Can't explain it but when Number 001 is angry he looks like a human version of MewTwo. Jamie Campell Bower - amazing performance! 👏🏾. He and Dacre (actor for Billy) has this something where they just 'switch on' and it's always impressive to watch.
@katwebbxo
@katwebbxo 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I can see the resemblance to MewTwo 😅
@christianwise637
@christianwise637 2 жыл бұрын
Between those two actors and Matthew Modine being brought back to play Dr Brenner, this show has really been nailing it on the excellent villain performances recently
@turnipswillneverhurtyou3934
@turnipswillneverhurtyou3934 2 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to figure out what cartoon animal he reminded me of 🤣🤣
@ChrisDixon__
@ChrisDixon__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@turnipswillneverhurtyou3934 😂😂
@ChrisDixon__
@ChrisDixon__ 2 жыл бұрын
@@christianwise637 True! When Dacre turns into possessed Billy there's something that "clicks" in his eyes and face and he no longer feels like you're watching Billy but an actual vessel (sometimes you still can see Billy in his facial expression 🤯), it's amazing how he turns that on. Completely agree about the casting.
@brettthebest3978
@brettthebest3978 2 жыл бұрын
What I love about the twist is that it’s actually 3 twists at exactly the same time!
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! One after another, SO damn good!
@DovahkiinMaster172
@DovahkiinMaster172 2 жыл бұрын
The broken house in the red smoke isn’t in a physical realm, it’s Vecna’s “mind palace”.
@rugr82day
@rugr82day 2 жыл бұрын
It's a gate Calvin. Remember the acrobat and the flea? Each size has their own gravity. To me that's why the sheet-rope worked.
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses 2 жыл бұрын
I second this! It makes perfect sense that both ends of the rope are being pulled in different directions
@blueburger4938
@blueburger4938 2 жыл бұрын
The sheet floating isnt the issue The problem is the sheets floating being able to hold them when they climb up it/they cant pull it down as the only force stoping it is the gravity of the other side because both gravitys are equal it floats but when you pull it then 1 side gets a great force than the other basicly 1 grav vs 1 grav = floating 1 grav + 1 person pulling/climbing on it vs 1 grav should cause it to move unless the strength of the gravity is so strong you cant move it but that causes the issue of how it was picked up in the first place
@aaronboone8097
@aaronboone8097 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Calvin trying to make sense of the physics of a science fiction show 🤣
@MrDyl666
@MrDyl666 2 жыл бұрын
The actor who plays 001 is in his 30s so it does kinda work time wise
@zacharybartolo5111
@zacharybartolo5111 2 жыл бұрын
That hole in the ceiling is such a mindfuck! I bet a lot of physics people enjoy talking about the theories and implications for how it works. I also love how much of a paradox it is, the Upsidedown is now the Rightsideup and viceversa.
@Mrryn
@Mrryn 2 жыл бұрын
I also like the little (possibly unintentional) nod to D&D with the image of using the rope through the gate. It's very similar to the D&D spell Rope Trick, which literally causes a rope to feed upward into a pocket dimension.
@mystmagyk3101
@mystmagyk3101 2 жыл бұрын
Two minutes in, Calvin "That was metal!" Eric "It was metal" Fandom :)
@idiatico
@idiatico 2 жыл бұрын
I like how during the cold open to episode 1 you can see the crack in the wall that eleven made in this episode.
@MichaelBalchaitis
@MichaelBalchaitis 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I don't watch as much TV as you guys. I was blown away by the ending. I didn't see any of it coming. Best tv experience ever for me.
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a ton of TV but was still blown away by that ending as well LOL!
@GraceMariex3
@GraceMariex3 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I was spoiled before watching this episode that El didn’t kill everyone but I didn’t know who did. Once the orderly offered to “help” her, I had a feeling it was him but I was not expecting the 001, Henry, Vecna connection.
@xyrots
@xyrots 2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping Eric would notice the music being used during the monologue scene being the same music used in Watchmen lol. I got a good laugh during their episode 6 discussion when Calvin was twisting Aaron's theory and Aaron said multiple times "I don't think the orderly is One" but Calvin ended up being correct lol. Aaron was talking about the orderly and the story he had of 001 and Calvin went off to say that the orderly *is* 001. If anyone is curious, this occurs at 28:10 of their discussion of episode 6. And then at 30:15, Calvin gets a lightbulb moment after Aaron says the orderly is too young to have worked with Brenner back in the 50s unless he was a child, and Calvin somehow pieces it together that Henry Creel never died, is One, and became Vecna.
@ElectricFury
@ElectricFury 2 жыл бұрын
The twist is such a brilliant reveal because even if you saw it coming, you probably didn't see ALL of it. Like I expected the orderly to be 001 but I never expected that he was ALSO Henry, and Vecna.
@sallyatticum
@sallyatticum 2 жыл бұрын
When JCB was The Orderly, I felt like he was channeling Johnny Depp's Willie Wonka. His voice is so unlike his actual voice. it's super freaky.
@captainteeko4579
@captainteeko4579 2 жыл бұрын
JCB was in Sweeney Todd and actually has a great singing voice too 😭 he’s so talented wtf 🤧✨
@adrianvmurillo
@adrianvmurillo 2 жыл бұрын
“Just enjoy it we all know its fake” - me explaining most shows
@NinaPB
@NinaPB 2 жыл бұрын
Calvin will overanalyze all the enjoyment out of a scene. 😭
@Lawrence89MUSICman
@Lawrence89MUSICman 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t finish the reaction for that reason. 😕
@torontomame
@torontomame 2 жыл бұрын
Could be because of his hotness, but I'll happily watch Calvin over-analyze for quite a while. 😁
@lishawnstreeter6577
@lishawnstreeter6577 2 жыл бұрын
Him and Micky from the Normies are the same way, I enjoy their reactions but they do over analyze
@jaydee7257
@jaydee7257 2 жыл бұрын
Constantly trying to be the smartest person in the room lol
@deonnelson9780
@deonnelson9780 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lawrence89MUSICman really?
@icommenttoplay1301
@icommenttoplay1301 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so crazy seeing the makeup for Vecna . It’s all James Campbell Bower. Incredible performance!
@astralwishes13
@astralwishes13 2 жыл бұрын
20:45 the guard’s name is Dmitri Antonio. Enzo was only used as a code name and only represents the restaurant that Hopper was supposed to have dinner with Joyce
@icky9930
@icky9930 2 жыл бұрын
god i want jamie campbell bower as a young palpatine so bad now
@myself_yuvraj
@myself_yuvraj 2 жыл бұрын
The last monologue scene with the music was giving me "I felt fear for the last time" scene from 'Watchmen' vibe and I loved it, the actor delivered it perfectly.
@bubsyfinnigan4462
@bubsyfinnigan4462 2 жыл бұрын
It should, it's the same music.
@MFSeaMen
@MFSeaMen 2 жыл бұрын
@@bubsyfinnigan4462 Phillip Glass is such a good composer
@eighthdoctor
@eighthdoctor 2 жыл бұрын
Was thinking that too and I love that they used that same Phillip Glass piece (I think it's called _"Prophecies"_ or _"Pruit Igoe"_ some variation). 😁
@brettpenning
@brettpenning 2 жыл бұрын
They should have realased Ep 8 & 9 in theaters for all of us to enjoy.
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 2 жыл бұрын
They were considering it but they only just completed the episodes on the day of release.
@Commander_Shepard.
@Commander_Shepard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@RAP7ORv For real?
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Commander_Shepard. Yep, they mentioned it on a podcast. Netflix brought the idea to them but they were like we cant as we havent finished the episodes yet. It is something they are considering though for the future.
@Commander_Shepard.
@Commander_Shepard. 2 жыл бұрын
@@RAP7ORv Ever mentioned what they didnt finish till last minute of release date?
@RAP7ORv
@RAP7ORv 2 жыл бұрын
@@Commander_Shepard. They just said it was mainly VFX and tweaks. I know they also said they were going to George Lucas Will's birthday.
@paigeporter2289
@paigeporter2289 2 жыл бұрын
if you didn't know, something else cool about Jamie Campbell Bower who plays 001 is that he is also in all the Vecna prosthetics and he does the voice as well. I have been a fan of his for a long time so I was very impressed and i'm glad they didn't CGI vecna. They didn't use any modifiers on his voice either, it's all him and there is footage on youtube of him doing it if you're interested in seeing it. I just thought the entire process and the way they made Vecna was awesome:) love the video, can't wait to see your episode 8 and 9 reaction
@Jdizzlefreeone
@Jdizzlefreeone 2 жыл бұрын
Calvin: why'd you park your car on your kid Aaron: it happened once and then immediate cut...😂😂🤣
@UnclePalpy
@UnclePalpy 2 жыл бұрын
I worked out he was One immediately and then guessed he was also Vecna judging by his eyes (of all things). Did not expect him to be Henry Creel though.
@acapier
@acapier 2 жыл бұрын
The point of bringing up the Nancy/Steve relationship when and how they did was to get Nancy revisiting her feelings about their former relationship because her guilt over Barb is tied to him, and that made her vulnerable to Vecna in that moment of trying to escape.
@ashtonlewis9624
@ashtonlewis9624 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe no one said "bat got your tongue" to Calvin when the bats scrambled his speech capabilities
@rfresa
@rfresa 2 жыл бұрын
There's definitely a Star Wars parallel. Both the Jedi order and Brenner recognize that negative emotions are bad, and try to raise their powerful kids in an environment that is free of all emotions and attachments instead. But the strongest way to defeat negative emotions is with positive emotions; the only way to turn back from the Dark Side is through love and family.
@alexinator-hh5fe
@alexinator-hh5fe 2 жыл бұрын
Really loved the twist in this episode. I thought it was really strange how they showed everyone get taken out except the son back in the flashback. But him being 001 was absolutely not what I was thinking. And him also being Vecna blew my mind.
@rc3357
@rc3357 2 жыл бұрын
10:12 although people might've commented already I'm pretty sure you can just hear echoes between the two dimensions. when nancy and jonathan were in the house and joyce and hopper were in the upside down, joyce turned to look behind her when she heard some echoes. they were all just being quieter at that time
@christopherchapman2493
@christopherchapman2493 2 жыл бұрын
The sheriff knocking on the door looked like a Tribute-to the scene from the Shining when jack chopped threw the first door. The hallway looks similar to as of they generated it to look like it
@RobbyBoy2000
@RobbyBoy2000 2 жыл бұрын
And what he was saying the little piggies line is basically the same as Jack's little pigs line before he starts breaking the door
@Lenny-ue8hk
@Lenny-ue8hk 2 жыл бұрын
Calvin last episode: "Big bats, they're not little!" Calvin this episode: "There's a lot many"
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 2 жыл бұрын
The music at the end is from Koyaanisqatsi, a 1982 movie/album by Philip Glass. It's really amazing atmospheric stuff that's been used in a bunch of movies (like the original Candyman)
@Y0Da77
@Y0Da77 2 жыл бұрын
Also in Watchmen (2009), Dr. Manhattan scene.
@wtimmins
@wtimmins 2 жыл бұрын
@@Y0Da77 oh DUH. Yeah, that’s one of the most obvious ones! Haha
@KellyBeam
@KellyBeam 2 жыл бұрын
For the timeline, this massacre is happening in 1979 (per the opening of the first episode with Brenner). The stuff that happened at Victor's house happened in 1959, so it's 20 years later. I believe Henry was supposed to be 10 in 1959, so that would make him 30 when the massacre took place. That would make him a couple years younger than the actor, I believe, so it all fits.
@aprilshowers0606
@aprilshowers0606 2 жыл бұрын
"that's a felony!" i thought she said it was just a minor misdemeanor 😭
@W0NK042
@W0NK042 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, The Upside Down is frozen in time at the day Will came through. We will be getting a lot more of the Upside Down lore in Season 5, so we may find out why.
@ianfab79
@ianfab79 2 жыл бұрын
3 questions i hope get answered: 1. How does the upside down work time wise? 2. Where did 001 get his powers, and how did he know Brenner before? 3. How did Brenner survive the Demogorgon, and is he still actually alive?
@ChillyCucumber
@ChillyCucumber 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The most widely accepted reason a baker's dozen is called a baker's dozen because baker's would make thirteen of a baked good instead of twelve so that their "dozen" wasn't below the required minimum weight of a dozen, since selling a dozen that was below the required weight was made illegal after concerns of bakers skimping on quantities.
@Hinokami777
@Hinokami777 2 жыл бұрын
7:00 Calvin just digging for gold huh lol hilarious. Wish I was that confident
@emptyasmrman
@emptyasmrman 2 жыл бұрын
For the memory power thing I immediately thought of Mob Psycho season 2, Mogami tried to convince Mob that living in pain and anger is what made your powers stronger, but that's just cause they were strong emotions to him. To Mob, the love of his friends and his want to protect them is what gave him the strength to beat him. Which now that I look at Stranger Things it's VERY similar in that way it seems.
@anzamoni
@anzamoni 2 жыл бұрын
I think one of rare times where Dustins theory isn't 100% accurate, because they're operating under the assumption of Mind Flayer is the big bad, so Vecna must be under him, but now that we know who Vecna is, and his backstory, it falls apart. Also don't believe like, 80 percent of what he was telling 11 was true. There was some truths in there, but he was manipulating her, telling her a few truths in the middle of lies to push her to act quickly to what he wanted. Like about Brenner, he wanted the kids to kill 11? But Brenner punished 002 for lying and attacking? Don't make sense. 001 sees himself as top of the pyramid predator, a God to punish the guilty and bad. That, and seeing how he gad to have his powers suppressed by Brenner, why would he be ok working for Mind Flayer. He believes he's above orders and rules and control. He's been in the Upside down for 4 years at s1, so 7 years now, if he was teamed with MF, why was he never utilized before. Something happened with the Mind Flayer, which has allowed Vecna to take control. Mind Flayer isn't the big bad, Vecna is, with s5 being the final season, it would bring closure to 11s story, full circle. It started with 11 and 001, it'll end with 11 and 001. S4 is def gunna end badly I think.
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, you have some valid points, but you need to remember the Mind Flayer is essentially the ruler of the Upside Down. Without the Mind Flayer, Vecna wouldn't have been created either.
@kallum3575
@kallum3575 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArrowedKnee I feel it's worth mentioning that the Mind Flayer being the ruler of the Upside Down was the working theory that the characters came up with but that doesn't mean it's true without a doubt. From what we knew before S4, the Mind Flayer was the biggest *known* threat but as with most things, new discoveries should be taken into account in how they change what we think we know. Also I don't recall there being anything that suggested it was specifically the Mind Flayer that caused 001 to become Vecna. To me, it seemed like the Upside Down was still primal and forming when El forced One into it and he was infused by the raw energy which caused his transformation.
@anzamoni
@anzamoni 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheArrowedKnee we dont know that. 001 was hit by lightning(?) Multiple times, whether that was organic or purposefully made, who knows, but the only changes we've seen are just his appearances. At this moment there is nothing linking the two together except the location of Upside Down, and what Dustin is theorizing, which is based off incomplete info and assumptions. The way 001 thinks of himself and others, doesn't make sense that he is now fine following the rules of others.
@anzamoni
@anzamoni 2 жыл бұрын
@@kallum3575 yeah I don't think it was ever said that Mind Flayer is the ruler, just that he was the most powerful thing they've fought so far, and having fought him twice so far, it's natural to think MF is back again, and assume he's top dog of the Upside Dog.
@erikjohnson3859
@erikjohnson3859 2 жыл бұрын
Brenner wanted 11 to be pushed and if that means allowing 11 to be in a situation where she could be attacked, fine. But you still need to enforce rules publicly and present a front. Makes plenty sense. If not Henry, it would be some other person or method that is being used by the MF to expand into our realm. This is like saying Venom, or Knull, are not the big baddy, but Eddie Brock or Mac Gargan is or something.
@Kwehliam
@Kwehliam 2 жыл бұрын
Eric: "He's a Swamp Thing now." No i think he's become a... _Stranger Thing._
@baldmammoth
@baldmammoth 2 жыл бұрын
Rick: "bow down before your master" Me: " *MASTER OF PUPPETS I'M PULLING YOUR STRIIIINGS* "
@aaronboone8097
@aaronboone8097 2 жыл бұрын
I love these "cold open" intros with the distorted lighting.
@scottcarver7393
@scottcarver7393 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy you guys are still reacting to this
@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective
@MoviesAndTvShowsAreSubjective 2 жыл бұрын
still? they have always uploaded one episode a week
@evaniswild7322
@evaniswild7322 2 жыл бұрын
‘Are we too good at watching tv’ YES. YES YOU ARE 😂😂😂
@PheelKooL
@PheelKooL 2 жыл бұрын
My only gripe with them during this series is that they theorized WAY too much while watching that it kinda ruined the twist for them because they figured it out basically in the first episode loll
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Like there are real downsides to overtheorising stuff and it really takes away from the viewing experience
@qdominika7253
@qdominika7253 2 жыл бұрын
What did they figure out ?
@stevenstone307
@stevenstone307 2 жыл бұрын
It seriously detracts from the enjoyment. These guys are so boring to watch now, idk if i can even watch the rest of the series
@alexandrucalitescu5822
@alexandrucalitescu5822 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGirlInGeekGlasses But for them how is it? Maybe they really enjoy the way they watch stuff and maybe it doesn't take away from their experience which is most important
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses
@TheGirlInGeekGlasses 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandrucalitescu5822 Perhaps, but at the end of the day they're filming themselves reacting to a tv show. They have an audience. And seeing them talk over important scenes, overtheorise and basically get everything correct makes for very dull viewing.
@rromano158
@rromano158 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian prison guard who befriends Hopper is codename Enzo. His name in this show is Dmitri Antonov (actors real name is Tom Wlaschiha).
@rabooey
@rabooey 2 жыл бұрын
After much deliberation, Rick ended up NAILING IT. The fire spear that could be ok, WAS ok. GJ Rick!
@snerdterguson
@snerdterguson 2 жыл бұрын
My thought is that when someone is in the upside down for an extended time, the upside down kind of imprints their memory. Meaning Henry, who spent all his time in Hawkins at the Creel house and then the lab, so prior to Will, the upside down was just a vast wasteland and Will being in there was what brought the rest of Hawkins, as it appeared in 1983.
@koushikraja331
@koushikraja331 2 жыл бұрын
The music and the way the vecna reveal played straight up felt like the doctor Manhattan montage from watchmen and the way vecna's character was almost a weird fusion of Dr Manhattan's apathy with ozymandias' stone cold logic was pretty great
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! That was totally right out of Watchmen lol!
@Y0Da77
@Y0Da77 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this, as soon as that music started all the puzzle pieces fell into place for me. Philip Glass's Koyaanisqatsi is a great piece of music
@Rakushi_Snea
@Rakushi_Snea 2 жыл бұрын
I figured out who Vecna was the moment we got that lore drop at the asylum. By rule of anime: same hair style = same person.
@s.amanthaa
@s.amanthaa 8 ай бұрын
sorry if i misinterpreted but vecnas bald 😭
@Balek9999
@Balek9999 2 жыл бұрын
“Are we too good at watching TV?” 😂😂 Ask myself this all the time.
@andidreyes5323
@andidreyes5323 2 жыл бұрын
~laughing~ "Totally metal!" I promise you, this phrase will make you laugh and cry later. That ya'll said it NOW, at Steve's absolutely metal destruction of the Upside-down bat...is true and kinda prophetic.
@zuni_chief
@zuni_chief 11 ай бұрын
"There's a lot many" - Calvin. 😂 I need that on a shirt!
@acapier
@acapier 2 жыл бұрын
The eyes are generally thought of as windows to the soul, so the moment he takes the eyes from his victims is the moment he has taken their souls.
@bobarcher5837
@bobarcher5837 2 жыл бұрын
I love their shock about the run time. Just wait until they see the run time for episode 9 lol
@coulsonintahiti
@coulsonintahiti 2 жыл бұрын
18:58 Fun fact, that's the Demogorgon's unique kill animation in Dead by Daylight :)
@steviehills4256
@steviehills4256 2 жыл бұрын
"They're out of breath, they went 10 feet!" I did a spit take on my laptop! 😂
@3kylajsmith
@3kylajsmith 2 жыл бұрын
Steve fought One with gapping wounds in his abdomen. He never got any proper medical attention for those injuries before heading into the upside down.
@TheGIJew.
@TheGIJew. 2 жыл бұрын
They did a really good job with the plot twist. It was obvious that there was something going on with Vecna, the orderly, Creel's son, and One, but it was a surprise that all four of those were the same person.
@Liam-pl2nr
@Liam-pl2nr Жыл бұрын
Eric “just enjoy it, we all know it’s fake” thank you, thank you, thank you. Find myself saying this so many times when some of the guys over analyse things to death
@theponyisday
@theponyisday 2 жыл бұрын
OK I already waited a week to watch the finale with you guys, I’m not waiting another whole week 😂 I thought 8 & 9 were dropping at the same time on Patreon 😭😭😭😭
@connorcook767
@connorcook767 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for you too see the last 2 episodes. It’s gunna be so dope!!
@jonathanpowell7256
@jonathanpowell7256 2 жыл бұрын
So after this episode, we now know that El opened two gates into The Upside Down. The first in 1979 when El defeated Vecna which she then forgot about, and then the one in 1983 when she made contact with The Demogorgon whilst in the deprivation tank.
@theeLonelyRedPanda
@theeLonelyRedPanda 2 жыл бұрын
X-men first class charles said it best. Between rage and serenity.
@TheRoyalFino
@TheRoyalFino 2 жыл бұрын
Duffer Bros said in an interview that the length of the episodes was due to there being 4 complicated storylines and there wasn't a great place to end the episodes to split them up. They felt as if the episodes need to have a distinct start and end. They could be lying to coverup some sort of Netflix cast/crew pay scheme but I'll just take their word for it. They seemed adamant it was a creative choice. They also seemed to indicate the pandemic had a lot to do with it too. They had a lot of time to write and plan this season, so there was a lot more depth and story.
@ecstasyecs
@ecstasyecs 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I fully believe this. I was actually thinking about that watching the last, 2h22min, episode. Where the hell could they have possibly split this? Way too much going on.
@lca98musiclover
@lca98musiclover 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the "inbetween" is the victim's mind. When Vecna had Max and she went to the red area with the creel house she mentioned it seemes like he didn't want her there, like she had walked into his mind place kinda.
@TheKat12364
@TheKat12364 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But I think calling it the sideways still works.
@Zechree
@Zechree 2 жыл бұрын
Two weeks from now that reaction is gonna be bussin, I cried like 4 times
@salmanwahidi91
@salmanwahidi91 2 жыл бұрын
When I watched it, I kinda figured it out that the orderly could be One. I never imagined him to be Henry. I thought cuz Henry was sensitive, he may have opened a doorway or something for Vecna (as Vecna must have sensed his insecurities or something). When the revealed it was actually Henry who turned out to be One and then transformed into Vecna, I was blown away. The Duffer brothers have created something special here. Can't wait for their reaction to episode 8 and 9.
@PowerDiva
@PowerDiva 2 жыл бұрын
THERE'S A LOT MANY reactions to this online, but this is one of the more entertaining ones.
@dracarysforlife5852
@dracarysforlife5852 2 жыл бұрын
I think One just wanted to punish Brenner by making him watch the destruction of everything Brenner held dear. Maybe. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@jdhlegendz6700
@jdhlegendz6700 2 жыл бұрын
God damn blindwave there predictions are always so accurate he brought up the fact Dustin might not be right about vecna being the mind flayers underling
@L0ad1ng45
@L0ad1ng45 6 ай бұрын
@BlindWave In response to what you said about Steve fending off the original Demogorgon in season 1 with the nail studded bat, I think this one is older and larger than that one was. Not to mention, the Russians have essentially been torturing it, or at least over-containing it. The original Demogorgon was able to roam free, hunting prey as it desired. This one is larger and cooped up more often, which makes feral creatures more aggressive when it comes time to hunt.
@7Link7
@7Link7 2 жыл бұрын
July 1st is only twenty ish days away...
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 2 жыл бұрын
Can't come fast enough, this season was fantastic, arguably the best one in my opinion
@TheUKisThere
@TheUKisThere 2 жыл бұрын
Eric, there’s definitely real people out there like Erica lol.
@Nanobite4
@Nanobite4 2 жыл бұрын
There are sure, but she still feels like a caricature more than a real person, and what makes it even weirder is that no one else in her family is like that so like, where does she even get that from??
@TheUKisThere
@TheUKisThere 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nanobite4 I’m not like anyone in my immediate family, either. People aren’t a hive mind. And the parents don’t seem really strict, so it gives the kids a chance to branch out and think for themselves. Although, her and Lucas both have the nerdy thing going for them. That’s, at least, one thing they have in common.
@GodzillaChase2054
@GodzillaChase2054 2 жыл бұрын
52:31 waluigi impression 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kruddster
@kruddster 2 жыл бұрын
There are three realms shown so far: the upside down, the physical, the in between, where 11 “searches for people, and the mostly red area, Vecna’s mind where he pulls people into and “stores” them.
@roxtechs
@roxtechs 2 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the demogorgon back after so long!!! Also yes 001 actor would be the perfect Young Palpatine. Also the highest praise I think Eric could give! Also I love Araon theory that this Demon is the same one from season one
@GeeklyGoods
@GeeklyGoods 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! Been a minute!
@blinkachu5275
@blinkachu5275 2 жыл бұрын
C'mon Calvin xD The rope through the portal thing is not that hard to understand. On both sides gravity is pulling the cloth rope down. Since it would be in equilibrium if we're to assume in both places the gravity is the same, it hangs in the middle. That's why when they pass through, suddenly gravity is flipped and they fall down. It's just a barrier.
@notnot9476
@notnot9476 2 жыл бұрын
but when a human pulls from a side, it would pull down with their weight making the rope fall
@blinkachu5275
@blinkachu5275 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, we don't know. Such an event doesn't exist in real life. So we can only speculate. I find no problem with the way they showed it. It worked for the scene.
@notnot9476
@notnot9476 2 жыл бұрын
@@blinkachu5275 while it did work for the scene it just doesn't make much sense on a physics stand point, if eddie was able to pull the rope out of the portal, then why wouldn't they fall when they climbed the rope?
@blinkachu5275
@blinkachu5275 2 жыл бұрын
​@@notnot9476 Again, that question cannot be answered as we can only speculate how it works based on our existing version of math/physics, which is based on how our current world works. There's no situation in real life where 2 gravity spheres have collided so closely to one another through a portal. The scene showed they threw it up, after it went through the portal it fell down, that's why they held the part that was still in the Upside Down so that couldn't fall with the rest. They then showed Dustin pull on it, to show that it was in a state of equilibrium, meaning all forces acting on it resulting in 0 when combined. There's plenty of reasons to think of why it could work the way it was shown, so why be so hell bent on trying to think of ways why it doesn't work?
@laiiinicole
@laiiinicole 2 жыл бұрын
@@notnot9476 one, eddie didn’t pull the rope through the portal he cut it. and for two why even think that deep abt it at the end of the day it isn’t a real world thing just watch the show jesus.
@BakesKamuari
@BakesKamuari 2 жыл бұрын
So happy it’s finally here
@zaleahpalmer
@zaleahpalmer 2 жыл бұрын
Just in time for the last two episodes which are very emotional and gut wrenching can’t waitttt
@wickedshadesproductions5254
@wickedshadesproductions5254 2 жыл бұрын
We should also acknowledge that this episode had the first humans enter the UpsideDowm since season 1
@codasinger5298
@codasinger5298 2 жыл бұрын
A few months after I bought a Remarkable tablet for myself, I noticed Calvin had gotten one for taking notes while reacting, which I thought was a fun coincidence. Now Eric is the only one without one. It's super useful and its designed to FEEL like a pencil on paper. You will join us one day Eric
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