10 Year Veteran in Both LoL and Dota 2: Which is Better?

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[@beppu5156]

Remember when we only had one courier per team 😂

[@paul6353]

Yes and we get it killed so that no one gets the item .

[@beppu5156]

Back in dota1 too when My items weren't even delivered to me yet and someone's already controlling it.😭

[@JANLIU83]

Those were the days!

[@mrhaikal3457]

mostly player dota lose back ago because of war courier XD

[@mmortal8183]

I would buy the courier just to show off my courier skins

[@BlitzSpanks]

TL;DR - Both games suck but at least we're not Overwatch 2.

[@ednoresult4179]

liking your own comment 😮

[@yubear420]

"It could be worse."

[@naenae2350]

Racism

[@cosmickpb2903]

Overwatch caught in the crossfire lol

[@freepress3631]

Overwatch players: where's the PvE Blizzard!!!!!

[@cano3391]

Nothing gives the satisfaction of winning a toxic match over 70 minutes. You literally feel like your brain is having an electric orgasm, and you proudly look at the end-of-match table for 10 minutes and laugh involuntarily.

[@Phronesis1037]

I second that :) Playing one or two such games is more than enough for me, it'll keep me rolling for a week.

[@yasinaydin7650]

34 min mega and after 150 min win?

[@boiboiboi1419]

And that's why dota 2 gonna die, because you weird people having orgasm in the game instead of sporting

[@youtuger]

had a 70 min game playing PA carry. Damn it was satisfying to win it. Spent 20 mins just by comparing and analyzing details after the game. Rewatched it next day))

[@tubeyou007-ke1qf]

GG EZ

[@sayantanchatterjee3626]

I agree with Blitz except the turnrate part. The game is designed around it where if some heroes had a faster turn rate it can make some heroes really difficult to deal with. Puck can can change directions and blink away after euls or phase shift leaving no possible window to be caught, it's only the turn rate which makes it possible to catch that pesky mf if she tries to turn before a blink. Heroes like Bat slow turn rates and it's a great element to his kit. AM's blink direction would be impossible to read feom his animation if he turned that quick. So no, turn rate has a place in dota, it's a flaw but it's a good flaw and the game is fundamentally built around it.

[@PanmasterAtArms]

Turn-rates also nerf kiting, which gives melee carries an extra leg up. Imagine if Sniper didn't have a turn-rate. He'd be able to annihilate melees even harder than he normally does.

[@adzuadzu1748]

@@PanmasterAtArms true this.

[@ramonfreires5976]

@@PanmasterAtArms league has kite and its not unbalanced. Dota has blink daggers, force staffs, hex, bkb, phase boots. Truste me, kite would not be op on a game with that many useful tools to get on top of someone

[@supershid464]

@@PanmasterAtArms in RTS games (starcraft 2 for example) people micro units to move a bit after they fire during the small window between the shots and thus kite the enemy units... I just imagined a sniper doing it. Absolutely horrendous.

[@ircisaldaba9865]

@@ramonfreires5976 yes there many tools but imagine a drow ranger, Sniper or muerta, they will just build Phase boots early and thats about it they will kite for the rest of the early game and it would really feel awful, yes there are many tools to deal with them but you need to win early game to get those but if not well good luck not get stomped.

[@debreceniandras9130]

This video just came out today. Yet it feels like I'm watching a dota vs league comparison video from 2015.

[@not_kode_kun]

lmao fr

[@braindeadrat3564]

easily my favorite toxic league chat ive seen is "rush chair and rope build please"

[@barriakarl]

Haha lol wtf

[@Toisen]

*phrasebook replenished* Here are some of my favorites: Kennen R in the bathtub Ornn E into oncoming traffic Galio R off a building Talon E from the balcony go 0/1 IRL Patheon R from a bridge GP Q yourself Thresh Q from the ceiling Talon Q your wrist Gragas W a bottle of bleach Aatrox E into a train

[@rusampler1877]

nice one

[@itsm1ha104]

"All these extra chromosomes and none of them helps you to be good" or "Your parents are related yet they still managed to break up"

[@guuiswere]

Secret shop makes it so that if you have map control later in the game its very hard for the losing team to buy/finish items.

[@jorgea.coronado4389]

im only legend but cant you just send courier to opposite shop when that happens?

[@Luna_tiko2403]

@@jorgea.coronado4389 takes way too much time and not to mention your enemies can easily kill it if they have vision

[@jorgea.coronado4389]

@@Luna_tiko2403 time is irrelevant when they are near your secret shop, and if they are pushing your t3 you can just shift click the courier around the new jungle.

[@komilovalyukobondmantaj232]

​@@Luna_tiko2403no. Trust me I do that all the time if shit is happening. Who the fuck in the winning team would ward their side of the map

[@nekoluxuria7721]

@@komilovalyukobondmantaj232 there is the possibility of a creep killing your courier when trying to get there which really fucks you up a lot more.

[@anoobplays386]

I agree the secret shop seems silly, but can you imagine the enemy team locks you in your base and you can just buy your rapier in base to defend, or any other strong item that requires secret shop.

[@whitedarkness97]

6:51 turn rate is actually a vital mechanic , without it ranged will kite melee forever

[@ivansolodyankin6820]

Recepie for items is actually a good thing, this way devs can balance item cost without changing cost of it parts. If one item is amazing on one hero devs can just rebalance the cost of its recepie so it became less good on this hero.

[@credmlai2867]

Finally someone speak on the point. Other than serve as an adjustment / balancing. it also help dev to expend more potential upgraded item or combined item like gleipnir or vessel. Who knows in future, wegonna have Dagon lvl 10 or maybe midas+rapier recepie. That''s sexy thing about recepie.

[@yt-lh8kk]

League actually also has a recipe system. You can buy all the components individually first and then there is another cost when you buy the upgraded item. You can't buy just the recipe, which isn't a big deal in league since you don't lose gold when dying so you don't really need to get a recipe before the components.

[@rifwann]

But refresher cost is toomuch though..

[@EbonySeraphim]

Also, recipes are a part of item progression. On your way to Aghs scepter as a squishy hero? Buy that point booster and ogre axe up front and increase your HP pool. Yasha’s move speed and agility boost before Manta Style or Sange and Yasha matters. Point is, these aren’t complicated just because that’s how they’ve been in the past. I’d say dota2 has done a lot to simplify dota, and bring to the surface the mechanics that were extremely important, but you had to research separately exactly how it worked because they game would never tell you or show you.

[@jessm.sandler7187]

@@rifwannthe active is worth that much

[@sincskent]

finally, some dota and lol difference coming from a real gamer who spent equal time on both

[@mapuia_ralte]

5:52 back in the dark dark days of village Dota, you had 10 shops at the fountain, 2 side shops on the side lanes and 2 secret shops out in the jungle. and not to mention the courier share system if you wanted to buy anything while laning

[@godhero2566]

That was because warcraft can't have a "next page" button in their store because it's 2003 so they did 10 shopkeepers.

[@JarinCOD]

Side shops in Dota 2 were great.

[@bekakilov9656]

Damn dude I just remember this. I love it actually. I remember there was zeus model, wisp, dragon knight that were selling crap

[@youtuger]

miss sideshops in dota2. Now gotta wait my courier for minutes to bring me a tp or boots

[@jo4ogameplays]

i actually disagree. buying stuff on the secret shop is an inherent and important part of the gameplay. better itens require you to risk yourself in order to buy them. it makes perfect sense

[@lifegrain6092]

yeah, navigating the map and map control is important because there's objectives on the map besides heroes dota's huge map size compared to league makes it so that an entire team of 5 shouldn't ever be able to occupy and deny a certain area of the map with their presence alone think of it like working as a security guard of 5 on a big building, that's where you introduce cctv (observer wards) sneaking your courier to the secret shop is a micro-game you have to do, like "how do i make the enemy stop watching the secret shop?"

[@jo4ogameplays]

@@lifegrain6092 exactly!

[@Icedrous]

@@lifegrain6092 ah yes the *checks google* 124 heroes in dota compared to 165 (and counting) in league

[@lifegrain6092]

165 with about 25% the ability being a line of damage of different flavours, locked behind grind or money not hard to learn when at least 60% of abilities is some form of damage, and even less to learn when some champions are just unpopular oh btw of the 165 how many is in an acceptable balance to play the game properly without effectively throwing the game? oh how diverse is the champions you use? i've used and won with at least 70% of the current hero pool in dota, i've played meepo, broodmother, and arc warden too some of the toughest in dota to use currently (balance or just raw micro management) diversity in gameplay makes it less boring and dota even has a hero that can copy enemy's ability, you have to play the enemy hero better than the enemy is also rote memorization is only a skill, you can find a good chemist that memorized the periodic table but not all good chemist do

[@Icedrous]

@@lifegrain6092 I don’t play league anymore and I’ve dabbled in dota a bit, I’m not saying one is better or the other, I was just trying to correct you with how many heroes and champs each game has since it sounded like you were bashing league for having too little, and it confused me since I know league had more. Have a good day, sorry for the miscommunication

[@gevmaedahtkuont5387]

The "outdated" game design takes never fails to be nitpicky af IMO. If removing depth and intricacies in mechanics is "up to date". Then why the hell did HOTS die? That game is basically dota without the "outdated" game mechanics. Lets just face the objective truth in life that people like different games for multitude of reasons and that there doesnt need to be one true definitive gaming experience. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

[@JAPSICLE]

Righttt??? DOTA's mechanics and game design is basically telling the players to be methodical and precise because each action has its consequences. Like if you didn't pay attention to your courier when sending it to the secret shop then it might get killed by the enemy. And the simple act of items getting delivered is a way of counter play as well, kill the enemy courier then you can deny them their items or their survivability in their lane, or if their courier is killed then the hero needs to buy the item themselves which can put them in danger.

[@abigailparaan9093]

you really comparing HOTS to Dota? gimme some of the crack you sniffing bruh.

[@gevmaedahtkuont5387]

@@abigailparaan9093 hey they making a resurgence (probably). Let microsoft cook

[@user-mb9gz2rz6y]

while I do agree with your overall conclusion, I must point out that HOTS is not dead, actually; even now it has quite a vibrant and active community, and the queue time does not take more than a min or so. It is in fact abandoned by the developers, of course, so you obviously hear nothing about the game and so on, but it is still out there, it still has quite a significant player base. So if the developers were to resuscitate the game, it would be kicking right now as well.

[@umutpiynar9309]

You are so right idk what kind of bs video creator is talking about.

[@bearofpanda5651]

Video wasn’t new info from other videos or anything. But it was very entertaining as a dota player. Crank out that algorithm bro

[@MrDrumStikz]

Turn rate is literally the main reason why League's balance always feels bad for ADCs. When the system mechanics make ranged characters inherently overpowered, you have have to play an insane juggling game as a designer trying to make certain character abilities weak, make certain items balanced for both ranged and melee characters, etc.; and overall this makes balance infinitely more difficult than it needs to be. So many toxic metas could have been avoided if they just kept turn rate.

[@yarikyaryi]

Actually there is trick to turn with Puck when he is inside phase shift to then insta blink.

[@kish4corheunbl]

Lol the kiting is literally the only thing adc's have to play the game property. Add turn rate to league and adc's are pretty much fkd. You have no idea just how important positioning is in league, it's especially important for adc as they're squishy af and are usually immobile, they rely on auto attacks after all.

[@witherkichian4867]

@@kish4corheunbl well fuck the ADCs then

[@yarikyaryi]

@@kish4corheunbl a lot of adc very mobile and they shred any melee hero without too much mobility into pieces. In dota melee heroes have many tools to close the gaps and keep target from running like blink, basher, skadi, diffusal, harpoon (don't recall how it's called exactly) etc, and league if your hero doesn't have 10000 dashes then good luck getting close to adc.

[@kish4corheunbl]

@@yarikyaryi you're thinking in a scenario where it's an actual team fight, ofc if given space to actually free hit, an adc will have a lot of opportunity to kill the enemy. 1v1 vs a melee bruiser will tell you the mobility adc has is just an illusion, not to mention most melee champs are actually pretty mobile as well, and even vs those that aren't, ie. Garen, Darius, it's still apparent how easy for this champs to pick off an adc champ.

[@FlyLeah]

Jokes aside, this is actually the best comparison vid out there

[@Gigusx]

With roughly 1/3 of the video focused on how shit both of the communities are 😅But it definitely gives me some insights as an long-time League player who's ditched the game and wants to try out Dota

[@gregoriobuenagua1235]

im subbing for the mere fact you played both for 10 years! you deserve a sub in exchange of your impending mental breakdown brother!

[@Dullen93]

Learning dota 1 from your big bro as a kid going from a helpless noob to a decent player over the course of several painful years only to later on see your friends undergo the same excruciating path in dota 2, with you now as their teacher, was such an amazing journey. Dealing with the frustrating lows to in time see them flourish into decent players once they start to understand the game more, and seeing how none of us ever wanted to play anything else but dota once the initial hurdles were overcome... I don't think any other game could replicate that.

[@GoldenTV3]

Honestly the reason I love league (before Vanguard update) is because the characters are distinct, the aesthetics have contrast. In comparision Dota, none of the characters feel distinct, it's hard to tell the boundaries of mobs, heros, characters. And the lighting feels like they just turned up the exposure on everything.

[@tartarus3184]

I play dota 1 for the last 3 years and when i play LOL i reach diamond in 1 season. Then i stop playing lol in season 5 and played dota 2 in 2017, i got ancient in 2018. Then i got back to league in 2019 i only reach platinum. After a year i got back at dota 2 again, first 2 game is hard, i need to adjust. But after that it was all good, peak 2018. Dota 2 is all about mechanics, when you know the mechanics you can come back anytime while LoL is all about reflex, speccialy in higher rank. I know this because i notice that the older i got, my hand doesnt listen to my mind anymore just like the good old days. Anyway Dota 2 = all about mechanics LoL = all about reflex

[@ImKioto97]

That's just not true. The reason you peaked lower everytime you came back to league is because the game has evolved a lot in the last years and the average player is way better and has more game knowledge. For example 8 years ago no one even knew what wave management was. Nowadays it's a fundamental of the game and even gold players know a thing or two about it. You can be bad mechanically or have high ping and still be high rank in league, because it's all about decision making and anticipation, not reaction. That's how you get players that hit challenger at 150 ping. Mechanics are important, but there are way more important things. I can't talk about Dota2, since I haven't played it. I'm sure it's very difficult, everybody seems to have the same opinion on it. But your League take is wrong, or at least obsolete

[@ohreally6945]

​@@ImKioto97every LOL KZbinr that tries out Dota 2 is very nooob tbh....so Dota is a harder game

[@ricirici08]

​@ohreally6945 so dota is a different game*

[@ohreally6945]

@@ricirici08 its still a moba at its core,it just has way more mechanics and the hero skills are way more advanced than any other moba

[@ricirici08]

@@ohreally6945 it’s still a moba and that’s a fact, but the path to destroy nexus is crazy different. Even a basic thing like turrets aggro is totally different. Or wave management. The matchups. The role 4 and 5 in dota, the support and jungler in lol. Many other things that don’t transfer from a game to another. I know plenty of dota players, where they are good, playing league for thousands hours and still being bronze. Once you properly learnt one of the 2 games, you won’t probably bother to get good in the other one, because both the games need A LOT of time (years), to get decent at, plus they are very old games, with players that played for a decade and there is no way you’ll get to their level unless you are 12yo. Both games are very good, dota kinda has a deeper macro, league of legends has a more arcade gameplay, it’s more fun to play characters there. I find league of legends players to stick to just one character because the learning curve of the character itself is huge, while on dota it’s more tactic and you can easier hop from a character to another according to what team needs.

[@chucyfull]

So you mean dota2 is better.Fine,fine.

[@SuomenPaska]

I think I can agree, it has more depth and is more polished in a way, however... I find it boring. I like faster pace and I hate turn rate and overly complicating things. For the same reason I enjoy card games such as Gwent or Hearthstone over Magic, even though Magic you could argue is better and has more depth.

[@YBgusi]

imagine having a surrender option. LMAO. weak

[@lolthatfunny]

Imagine dead game DOTO LOL@@YBgusi

[@YBgusi]

@@lolthatfunny ☝️🤪

[@xaevius5319]

@@SuomenPaska i don't mind faster pace but the map and diversity of heroes plus the items that actually feel different from each other and has actual impact over just stat sticks in league is > for me.

[@hopeonthego4273]

great video dude, had me laughing the whole time

[@mintycandyyumyum]

Turn rate and secret shop exist because of hero balance and also sets apart players who can micro and know stats. There's a clip of a Spectre with litteraly 1 hp because of her armlet, and carrying a rapier. She used Phase and she was able to walk through somebody and just keep stabbing them in the back and move over perfectly between each auto attack from the enemy to stay out of their turn rate and never get hit She won, and then proceeded to win the match because she understood this 1 mechanic most people just decide to get mad at and not master. It also balances heroes like Terrorblade who if he could ult out his asshole instantly, would be undefeatable. There's also nukers like Zeus, powerful stunners like WitchDoctor and Ogre Magi, and powerful game ending ults like Warlock's ult that would become too good if they could instantly drop one behind themselves. These miliseconds make a massive, huge difference in high skill play and if turn rate didnt exist the game would become a whole lot less fun and less strategic. It would also throw more than half the roster under the bus and leave the game in a state of a very boring linear meta. Secret shop exists because it's part of Dota's neutral game, which matters WAY more than League's. Every second of your position, where your team goes, etc. matters so much and having a part of the shop outside of spawn safety is part of this neutral game. If it didn't exist, characters like AM would be uncatchable and would just stomp lobbies if you couldn't utilize warding and smoking secret shops.

[@psycholyfe]

Man I miss seeing that old SF

[@obsidian4160]

if u think shop in dota2 is confusing, then try playing dota1

[@yofedstyhrega4594]

I could count the pixels on dota 1

[@AbnerRynjah]

You my friend just earned a new SUB. I really enjoyed your video

[@Nicupos]

I think it’s pretty important for the secret shop to exist in dota. Losing map control means losing your secret shop. But if you’re sneaky enough with your courier you can smuggle secret shop items back to yourself. It’s annoying, but I think very vital for competitive integrity.

[@rarogtheory7936]

As a guy who has 40.000 hours in both combined I can confirm all of this. Also i was laughing so hard😂

[@aaryanmhatre4761]

psychopath detected

[@2nerC9]

How are you not bald yet.

[@rarogtheory7936]

@@2nerC9 how do you know I'm not? 🥴

[@Mz-st2fs]

You wasted so many hours and you’re not even payed to play those games mate wtf

[@ln8612]

As an Immortal-ranked player in Dota 2, I can say that while League of Legends players might enjoy Dota 2, the reverse may not hold true. For a seasoned Dota player, LoL might seem overly simple, to the point where it no longer offers fun or challenge. This isn't to discredit LoL but to highlight the different appeals of each game. Dota's complexity and depth provide a unique experience that might not be replicated in LoL for players accustomed to such intricacies

[@MattHatter360]

Completely true. I think Dota appeals more to people who want deep mechanics and evem deeper game knowledge/understanding, while League is more for people who enjoy fast and reactive gameplay.

[@xaevius5319]

i don't think that's true. i see more league players bitching about dota 2 than dota 2 players bitch about lol. it's fairly obvious for us dota 2 players to know league is abit more "simpler" than dota and even then for me personally i don't mind league's different fast paced gameplay

[@whitedarkness97]

@@xaevius5319 League's character design is insanely stupid , having heroes/champs without mana instantly makes them stronger than those with mana , imagine ur pushing highground and after 4/5 spell rotations u run out of mana while the enemy doesnt.....

[@jannovy-il3uk]

​@@whitedarkness97Champions without mana are easy to counter or have bad early game overall

[@Kyong008]

@@whitedarkness97 It works in League bcs the game is designed around it. Obv a hero w/ no resource usage, be it mana or hp, will be OP as fuck in Dota 2

[@MatBat__]

Those last 30 seconds were a truth bomb hahahahaha as someone with similar experience in both games, I totally agree with all you said

[@oofx2698]

Underrated video, this was godlike

[@rajarai2803]

Awesome video as usual bro, but I know deep down you have and will always have a soft spot for DOTA. Especially Lanaya.

[@spaceriot23]

As a dota 2 player since beta invite and League since season 3, I hate both game. Yet I still play Wild Rift on mobile phone, because I hate myself

[@eclipse369.]

wild rift would be fun if all skills were locked on and balanced in that way.......aiming skill shots on a tiny ass screen is fkn cancer

[@allah-a2353]

You made the shop system sound way more complicated than it actually is. You can just farm the lane/jungle or even fight and have your courier do all the shopping for you. Also i love the turn mechanic it adds a lot of extra skill to movement.

[@jamasa23]

truly embodies the decade players out there. now to another game

[@beppu5156]

Mythic's sucks bcoz it tries to lock u in one meta but riot said it'll be removed next year in the new season

[@azux.]

the best short answer as someone who's played both for more than 10 years also is league is like playing piano, a fast pace game where you need to precisely hit buttons at the right time while you hit skills shots and try to dodge dota is like the art of war, you need to properly coordenate with your team, use your resources (and sometimes the team resources) wisely, have a strategy, have a gameplan with itens in mind, with timing in mind, with early/mid/late game in mind, all while you react to your opponent or make them react all that while you try to keep a good gold/xp lead

[@nekoluxuria7721]

It really is just a solo vs a musical both sounds really good, but the latter has far more involvement compared to the former.

[@azux.]

@@nekoluxuria7721 to be fair you were smarter than me and using both musics metaphors make way more sense 😂

[@4007a]

what the he are you talking about, it's slow, 0 active items, 0 teleports, most of the characters don't even have skillshots like teemo kindered katarina annie vayne eve riven jax master yi kayle etc

[@nekoluxuria7721]

@@4007a active items: e blade, bkb, satanic, euls, bloodstone, manta style, dragon, harpoon, a lot more that I rather just say over half the roster of available items. Teleports: blink, town portal, BoT I will grant skillshot that but dota is definitely not as slow as league. Hell watch grand finals and you can see the difference. A lot of stuff happens in dota compared to league despite not being mechanically fast.

[@luisliscabo]

@@4007a nice b8 m8

[@aidynkumarbekov]

Blessed yet again

[@drondos]

i dont like to see trash talk,but the way u curse made my day😂

[@CaptainAdmiralMango]

I think you're mostly right on the Secret shop part, though I wouldn't say it's bad design. The secret shop houses items which is needed to make powerful items, and the shop being out in contested territory does add flavor and depth to both gameplay and map strategy

[@gevmaedahtkuont5387]

Hes playing it up to highlight the difference of both games. Literally any player with a brain would just walk on a secret shop in between fighting/farming, buy the item they want and have the recipe delivered to you by courier. And recipes have a major part in balancing items in dota. Imagine buying refesher without the huge recipe cost.

[@jewii3824]

It's just frustrating let's be honest, especially for the losing team.

[@Gandarf_]

​@@jewii3824wow, losing is frustating, just don't lose then

[@AlexGuaikTV]

Recipe is for game balance, some item no need recipe, like Divine....

[@TaydolfSwifter]

​@@AlexGuaikTVbut you buy that item for the enemy That's it's balance

[@colddarkness1798]

Well Dota is older and CS older older than Valorant

[@randomdude2026]

Dota 1 is older. Dota 2 is younger than league actually.

[@deruitsu]

bro turnrate is an amazing mechanic TT

[@HappyLittleBoozer]

Actual Ancient opinions right there. t. Legend.

[@kartokles]

Damn I just got back to LoL after playing a bit in like 2018, having also played a few hundred hours of Dota in like 2015-2019. This is quite informative as 99% of videos on KZbin are "How to play Dota for League players" and not the other way around. Thx Blitz :)

[@chrisbtoast510]

As someone who has 6k hours in DOTA. And 1k in League.... we are definitely all just a community of psychopaths. Maybe SMITE is the true MOBA king 🤴

[@xana968]

SMITE Goated

[@ASH-su6nb]

SHUT UP SMITE

[@theannoyer2953]

smite ping and message are pure cancer

[@rukket]

having played both games this is as accurate as it can get if you want to go down the undertale genocide path irl

[@makarhunter]

Very good point on the legacy mechanics. Some dota players really intend to die on those. Especially the turn rate, inherent lag, and secret shop.

[@buibuimoreh3564]

Playing both games for 4 years ... i can relate and agree with you

[@TheLiquidCastle]

well recipies seal the item, so finalizing them that way makes sense to differe from items u can dissamble. feels so good and efficient to split a mask of madness back up and build butterfly and satanic out of the original components after using it for the midgame power it provides :D

[@kendge]

Secret shop has created a lot of epic moments in dota e.g. Ana selling item for buyback, or buying ring of health so survive posion status effect then selling it afterwards.

[@2nwind]

That outro when he bags on both games was fucking hilarious 😆 I was dying of laughter

[@bestboy897]

League is too easy now that I have played dota and really not balanced. Very little strategy and just too arcadey. But dota can tone down on a few things too to make it more approachable for a wider audience. And dota is the superior game

[@MgMast3r]

My issue with dota balance, which is still way superior to league IMO, is that there are just some outlier heroes that Valve just refuses to do anything about, even tho' they could easily. I'm talking about the usual smurf heroes everyone has been complaining for years on end, the tinkers, arc wardens, I guess mby the huskars& meepos too tho' not nearly as much as the other 2, arguably the invokers & pucks too cause what were once rare picks only played by folks who invested tons of time in 'em , are things you see once every 3-5 games (or once every other game in Voker's case). Things like his shard EMP being like a Enigma black hole on low cd with tons of mana drain for instance, are NOT cool. Aside from those tho' , it's generally much better. Yea, there's some patch favs but there's always niche counters that genuinely work well vs 'em with the right items & playstyle. We see carry willow in TI being hit or miss basically, and mostly miss in pubs, yet broken in the right conditions. But I just don't know why do Volvo & some of the community INSIST on nothing being done about those mentioned heroes that legit most of the community hates and the games honestly feels way better off when no1 plays ' em. Who's even having fun in a game vs Tinker or Arc Warden besides the mf playing 'em? Their kits are inherently just toxic design, as if made by some 12y ol that wants to ignore most of the game mechanics, bypass most counters and just play on GM mode stomping regular, "pleb" heroes that have to play by at least some rules.

[@osk4r99]

​@@MgMast3rwhy would valve balance the game for random pub stompers? The bigger problem for me is that litterly half the unranked games I play everyone wants to play supp and no one wants mid

[@lokikokoko5833]

​@@osk4r99everyone want to play supp yet focus scepter as their 1st main item and really do what the support job supposed to do amirite?

[@dragoscalinescu7845]

@@osk4r99 And that is the best thing that has ever happened to me in Dota as a mid player xD

[@djpnda-ed1dh]

Agreed. I can consistenly win every lane in league and outplay enemies. I think league players are more of casual / eboys

[@pillman12]

without turnrate you cant have meaningful pathfinding or any its consequent mechanics(hero/creep blocking, tree jukes)

[@pillman12]

:)

[@AlexGuaikTV]

Without turnrate, bistleback will be god

[@heroninja1125]

No turnrate would pretty much benefit cheaters the most. Imagine a bristleback that walks towards you, but whenever a spell or projectile is about to hit him, he turns INSTANTLY which negates the damage, then continues to hit you while turning instantly every time you try to hit him. Dota may have a few cheaters in it, but not as much as league.

[@cripplingdepression213]

​@@AlexGuaikTVoh god... you're fckin right.

[@MelodiousBlueOfficial]

I came here to decide on which game I should try first as I've been looking into new games... I am now less sure of my decision than before watching this video.

[@cleverm5516]

as someone who plays both games for around 5 years i agree!

[@tokyoreforged7851]

remember the 2 tanggoes 1 ward? yea you're that old

[@JuMP3Rz]

I want a surrender system in Dota

[@raphaels33]

Yeah. Playing a dead game for an hour can be really boring.

[@caspermultiverse]

play lol. Dota is not for u.

[@caspermultiverse]

@@raphaels33 yeah dead like u finds everything boring

[@WlatPziupp]

@@raphaels33 Doesn't sound dead if it went for an hour

[@masato3981]

Surrendering is for pussies. You queued the game, so fucking play the game.

[@barghest8763]

wow, is this the sequel lol vs dota video

[@chifukushion9804]

I remember back in my college days.. I have this friend who bought 6 tissue paper (all recipe) for invoker and he was so proud of it tellling us that he was already locked item. Lol🤣🤣🤣

[@potatongina1254]

i miss that time you can TT all day without being muted and censored

[@GenjaOrigins]

One thning i hate in dota is that match are too long maybe 50 min and none wants to do repetitive things in the game. We cant spend a lot of time with no reason in a video game. You should make games faster in dota like max 35-40 min.

[@keithnicholas]

just play Turbo in Dota

[@xana968]

Turbo is more tryhard than both Normal and Ranked combine, and the game also ended up on average above 35,@@keithnicholas

[@xana968]

They Should add Forfeit for Soloqueue

[@hel9157]

id take a single 60 min game per session in dota than 3-5 total games per session in league, its way more satisfying regardless of losing or winning.

[@xana968]

@@hel9157 im guessing you have nothing else to do.

[@underlinehd16]

Loved the video

[@differentman1878]

5:46-6:22 I'm getting some real Egoraptor/Sequelitis vibes. Like...EXACTLY the san same. This dude definitely enjoyed watching Sequelitis when he was younger

[@MrKrinkelz]

HOTS Player: I can play with my AI friends!

[@milicabojic9434]

No way did bro day that a single game lasting more than an hour is fun 💀

[@random1237]

facts in any case good vid

[@JANLIU83]

Turbo matches is the way to go these days. For your dose of hate.

[@JetFiiire]

A close Dota game lasting for an hour or more gets so tense that you get more feelings from this single game than your last 50 games of League combined (except frustration, you got a lot of that in League). That's why it drains you mentally, and even physically. That's also why the victory is muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch sweeter in Dota.

[@miloufromsaigon]

If you play with friends? Hell yeah, it's super tense and you guys can think and talk about that one game for days. Truly wholesome 👌

[@ASH-su6nb]

Close hour game of dota is by far the best gameplay experience Ive had, it is truly exhilarating

[@Lynv]

Love how bro lost all sanity at the end 😂

[@quinnreed3324]

Well done sir... well done

[@temba92]

6:25 You dont like some of the mechanics so you call Dota outdated? could someone elaborate on this?

[@mdk064hernandez9]

Brother is a gamer, not a game designer. He's just making a joke

[@temba92]

@@mdk064hernandez9 oh ok.

[@TheSLashera]

Dota2 is a masterpiece MOBA that isn't really comparable to League, but both games are fun and challenging in different ways. (A big asterisk here for League, since I am referring to back in the day league that was infinitely better than it is now.) I play Dota since like 2003-2004 and League for 2 years back in S2-S3. Played both games competitively, or at least with that mindset and I gotta tell you I had fun in League. It's really not comparable to Dota in terms of almost anything. The Depth in Dota is something magical, the variety this game has is probably in the realm of chess games variety. You can see incredible things not thought possible, almost every year at The International. It's crazy! Anyway, with that said I don't think the two games need to be compared. They appeal to different audiences. I would be lying if I said I didn't enjoy the fast paced gameplay league had to offer back then. It was extremely fun to destroy and outplay people on my Orianna and Ezreal. Unfortunately I think Riot chose a very bad way of balancing League in the long run. Long story short Dota is better, but not everyone wants to have to go through a university of theory just to be able to understand what's going on in a game and that's fine. That's how legacy games usually are. Especially one like Dota where the game evolved enormously over its lifespan, but a lot of mechanics and even heroes are nearly identical to what they used to be 15 years ago. Edit: Oh and btw I'll always respect Riot for Arcane. They completely destroyed Valve in the animes department and that shit is a masterpiece! ;) Edit2: Pretty good video too now that I finished it I guess we feel pretty similarly about the topic.

[@MgMast3r]

I think League has balance issues that run deep and have become unsalvageable w/o low-key remaking the game - a rabbit hole of toxic design needing to be addressed by more toxic design (most modern hero kits since several years now), or reworks, in a game of ever-rising power creep so there's no getting better. But Dota doesn't have these issues, just a few outlier heroes that the game'd prolly be better off w/o (stuff like Tinker/Arc Warden) that almost no1 likes playing vs or with those, but it's just a very small nr of heroes. In a sense it does make it kinda frustrating that Volvo just leaves 'em like this tho' ... Aside from that, the inherent, core game design is indeed a masterpiece and with such a solid foundation of "every move you perceive as broken has a reasonable counter, sometimes easier to pull off than you think to the point that it acts like an eye opener when you DO figure it out & feel like you've ascended to a new level of game knowledge" , it'll inherently just offer a more rewarding & exciting experience for me, while with League it's more like a thing to play on the fly, kinda like a mobile game. That and, the fact that the clients feel like decades apart : P Blitz should've mentioned this...

[@xana968]

Agreed, Both game Have their own Major Flaws, but They still have their own audience.

[@TheSLashera]

@@MgMast3r Yep. The major difference in balancing between both games is that Riot have chosen a strategy to balance their game around new champions. Which just doesn't work in the long run. Since they become too many, too quickly and introducing new mechanics only through the champion pool creates too many issues over time. While Valve rehaul the whole game of Dota including map and everything every so often.

[@nicholasxamotainiumgilgamesh]

that anime part is true... i can't even bother to finish dragon's blood book 3

[@TheSLashera]

​@@nicholasxamotainiumgilgamesh It's so bad. Only the first season was decent and still not that great.

[@enigmaenigma1722]

Remember side shops in dota2? Good'ol days.

[@jeusmarcomascarina4102]

What I love in dota you can be a tank as an archer

[@tidleso5637]

in short...less braincells; instable; young people -> LoL Chesslevel brain; matured human beeings -> DotA thanks for the summary!

[@justpepe253]

Less brain cells; unstable* -> LoL Less brain cells; unstable-> Dota. Both communities are braindead. Don't @ me. It's the truth

[@chunito]

MATURED?? WE?? FUCK NO!! HARD FUCK NOO!

[@chunito]

CHESSLEVEL BRAIN??? YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS?????????????

[@leoem4nuel]

Matured human being? 😂😂

[@MrSotzzki]

lol player huh? @@chunito

[@crushinitdown]

League is at one of its worst points at the moment. Cant really say the same about dota.

[@VV-rm5qs]

well the compendium sucks and the current TI is no longer entertaining(?)

[@gevmaedahtkuont5387]

​@@VV-rm5qs neither affect how you play the game and your enjoyment of it.

[@VV-rm5qs]

@@gevmaedahtkuont5387 you are right about that. mb

[@xana968]

both game are equally the same

[@beelzeszel]

Best end of a video that roasts league ever

[@mody_12]

Cant spell LOL without the L🗣 Jokes aside amazing video loved how you showed both negatives and positives and the rage at the end😂

[@alexx6408]

that angry dude at first wanted to smash his screen but noticed they expensive so he left

[@shieldgenerator7]

i got into league because lillia, and i almost got into dota2 because enchantress, but i couldnt wrap my head around how the game worked enough to stick with it

[@mii69420]

I still remember my first game in Dota 2, took about 2hr ish to end.. Its quite draining for me.. Strategizing with team..

[@jaidencorreya2112]

My soul my mind have been lost to the rift

[@MohammadJavad-pl5fm]

for both games u have to sacrifice your soul and probably your family and I love it

[@creativename2567]

Holy shit, a Dota player that isn't a fanboy?! I had no idea you existed.

[@KaizokuHaru]

gotta love how most of the things have been slowly being fixed in dota lol

[@Mekutoken]

imagine it's dota 1 where reading recipe is essential

[@dailyanimememes919]

i was waiting for this exact video. like if u were tooo W BlitzSpanks

[@zhaowarudo9753]

I used to struggle with secret shops in the og dota due to visual issues, but it's fine in Dota 2

[@aboyofpakistan]

bro has spent 20years of his life in just two games

[@macnico9987]

Your bristleback rant was short and sweet and made me pee my pants 10/10 would tap

[@tiredtom6427]

Why does Dota 2 sound so simple back in the day? I literally remembered it being just a casual game night with the boys 😂

[@m3l3e]

Hey overwatch player here, our queues aren't that long anymore lol plus I'm trying to get into a moba and after watching some videos I changed my mind thank you! :)

[@CocoMo-TheMimic]

as a meepo main since i started, and i literally just started. THE GAMES ARE SO LONG AND THE LONGER THE GAME IS, THE HARDER IT IS FOR ME, BECAUSE ILL KEEP LEVELLING

[@charlitowashere5906]

i was thinking on giving dota a chance.. bc lol its no longer working on linux.. after this video.. you good sr.. saved my life....

[@pssct]

secret shopkeepers needed to add more value to certain areas on the map, so at this point if you delete them whole balance will be ruined for few major patches at least

[@vbnv-oz8bj]

I played lol for years then moved to dota months ago and I enjoy dota a lot more. Finally I will never go back to lol.

[@lydierayn]

The latest insult thrown at me in a leauge game was "go 0/1 irl"

[@thripnixe]

As a casual mlbb player its makess me appreciate the community more (its filled with indonesians and i dont understand their language, lol)

[@DeeJaysWord]

Who remembers the side shops and buying your brown boots or a poor man’s shield.

[@PenguinLord10]

RIP side shop, never forget :'(

[@xaevius5319]

they never should've gotten rid of the side shop idk what drugs they were on when they decided that, as well as adding neutral items

[@procuraporz]

This videos was awesome

[@fan4every1lol89]

This is the only Dota v LOL video i care about

[@cracoviasvault1009]

Played Dota II for two days, used Shadow Fiend because it looked epic, quit since didn't know how it fucking works.