Blizzard Backtracked! The Hunter Revamp Is God-Tier

[@Corvandus]

I think having the option to pick models for the eagle would be great. I'd rather a crow or bat for dark ranger, or an owl for sentinel. I think flavour and identity through aesthetics is critically important for enjoying the fantasy.

[@Jarikraider]

Yeah, why not allow literally any flying pet?

[@aquarian_alchemist]

It’s things like this that keeps blizzard from peaking again. Something as simple as this adds so much flavor and soul to the game, it’s because they underestimate how important it is.

[@rainisneat]

When they announced the rework of MM, they said there would be options in the future.

[@Fullgrym]

I think the whole idea about the eagle is stupid. We already have the ability to tame (almost) any beast we want, and IIRC they add the ability to change pet "archetypes" (ferocity, tenacity, cunning) in the stables. All they had to do was move Heroism and stun from the pet to the hunter itself, and/or remove Lone Wolf talent by compensating the lost dps accordingly. PTR players say the eagle procs rather seldom, and its visuals are hardly noticable.

[@DeadnCold]

Why does it have to be a flying pet? Hunters already have a mechanic in their stable where BM has a special slot for their second pet. Just adapt that slot to also work for the "eagle" and let us use any pet we have. There are already rush in and disappear ground pets, why does it have to be a flying pet at all? It would help the fantasy of Dark Ranger if you could use a Darkhound that matches the ones it already summons.

[@tiagomoreira8905]

How to "fix" the eagle to make it feel more present in an optional way: 1- Call Spotter Eagle: MM base skill (cosmetic). Togglable. Once this skill is activated, your Spotter Eagle will appear and fly above you while out of combat. If you stay still for a few seconds, the eagle will rest on your arm until you move or perform any action. The eagle ascends to the sky when you enter combat. You can deactivate this skill at any moment. 2- Assign Spotter Duty: Talking to a stable Stable Master to assign any elligible pet in your stable (depends on model’s animations) as your Spotter Eagle. This works just like assigning a pet to be your Animal Companion as BM. 3- Glyph of Lone Wolf: When applying this glyph, your Spotter Eagle no longer appears. You are truly a Lone Wolf.

[@andrewwibel819]

These are all good ideas and I would enjoy them.

[@joshtenney4143]

They do have idle animations for falconers in the game, so it would be a cool touch if you were just afk and the eagle flew down and perched on your arm.

[@AkiRa22084]

What about Fetch?

[@tiagomoreira8905]

@@AkiRa22084 Good call. Fetch should summon the eagle to loot things for you.

[@thoggowow]

Would absolutely love the eagle being a fully passive pet that just does it's own thing like you suggest. Would be really cool.

[@Gurgio]

Why are they so scared to give hunters deep, meaningful and cool fantasy ? this guy is summoning four fucking horsemen of the apocalypse, destroying everything in their wake, while swinging big scythes and sometimes a huge undead dragon flies by. What do I get ? my arrow is sometimes red and sometimes purple, and I get a bird

[@marcelopivato1441]

wouldnt it be cool if we could summon a green dragon to our aid? maybe a shot like the one we saw in plunderstorm where we jump back mid air shooting arcane arrows?

[@purpleass9363]

Hunter has to fit every racial fantasy. Any swing towards a specific fantasy would alienate a lot of players. That's already the case with the hero talents that are way too specific to certain races. And it's made even worse with the pack leader change that now summons rexxar pets. Like, where do goblins, dwarf, DIs, gnomes, Blood elves, Draeneis etc. fit in the current hero specs fantasy ? The game definitely needs a huge glyph revamp to finally bring class skins and allow for a greater range of playable fantasy. Sadly they're making it even more narrow heor talents.

[@merlylvsm]

At the rate some of these player visuals are going, I wouldnt complain about your RGB arrows, at least theyre clean lol. (why are they making player visuals busier but boss visuals cleaner ffs)

[@KnightFel]

It’s…. A hunter.

[@GwennthBlg]

What about we rename it as Orion🎉

[@BattleF08]

There are animations in the game to let an eagle land on your arm, and to send it off again. Could be a nice touch to give that as a free ability or toy for MM hunters.

[@360Fov]

I'm so grateful to Bellular for sticking with Warcraft, and still discussing patch notes, specific classes, storyline nuances etc... I don't always have an active subscription, and I don't play a huge amount, but when I am playing, it's awesome to have this content and probably more importantly, feel like I'm playing a relevant game. OnlyFangs+ClassicHC has been amazing, but it will end in a matter of weeks I feel.

[@Logan-ef8hq]

Really wish we could pick something other than an eagle. Being able to swap with our flying pets would be cool

[@Marlfox70]

A bat would be really cool for trolls/undead. Eagle just seems so boring.

[@andreasmuller4666]

Sounds like prime real estate for cosmetic glyphs.

[@TheKrenk999]

Give us Glyphs that can change it. Seagull, Raven, Bat, Wasp or Flying Serpent would be good alternate options for MM Hunters.

[@Gruntman1234]

Customization options for the eagle would be good. I'd also like glyphs for the Sentinel Eagle, hero talent, to replace it with other birds or one of those heli-bots like the one you use at the end of delves to return to the entrance. Except it has an Arcane Shot firing little gun instead of a claw.

[@dopiegg]

It starts with an Eagle, and it may come with changes down the road :)

[@BlastHeart96]

I’m in the apparent minority that wants an entirely NO PET Marksmanship spec, but if anything this confirms that we’ll need an entirely different class for something similar to that fantasy.

[@jasons5916]

IMO they should have added a bow spec to monk or demon hunter

[@Zeik188]

For sure. Stealing pets from a class that has had them since the launch of the game was only ever going to end badly. This could over ever go one way. That being said, a new class that's ONLY Ranged with no pet would be nice.

[@СузаннаСергеевна]

I’m entirely with you. I’ve been playing MM since TBC specifically because it lets me be an elf with a bow. You know, like every single ranger character in the lore. Forcing me to have an eagle is a huge downgrade.

[@mikepeterson5256]

I am with you, I thought the eagle was stupid why can't we have a single spec that is 100% about skills with ranged weaponry, no pet, not eagle. Just you and shooting an arrow in the bosses eye socket from 100 paces away

[@tiredguy2753]

Yeah I thought Blizz would have the "balls" to go through with the petless Slyvanas, Legolas playstyle but nope they took a 180 back to seemingly the same lone wolf where going petless (eagle) is probably slightly better dps than using a pet. So for all that hullaballo about really defining MM as its own "lone hunter" role welp we going back. At this point for the folks who want that true lone wolf, lone ranger spec you had better hope blizz puts in a ranged/physical dps class.

[@tiredtobias]

Really hope we get Tinkerers one day so we can actually get some kind of sniper fantasy

[@BigBoneBusiness]

It's a decent compromise. Maybe I'm just old, but I've been playing hunter since 2007 and I absolutely hate having these pets that I didn't tame myself getting forced on me. All 3 specs have elements of this now. I hate feeling like I'm moving around with a zoo, just give me a single pet and call it good.

[@HardtoReach]

Or no pet.

[@jimjong7684]

Surv has a single (1) pet except for a single hero talent that isn't used. So does MM. So 1 out of 3 specs* not all 3 You are just old

[@217armystrong]

😂😂😂😂​@@jimjong7684

[@riktorheverez1068]

doubt its the old, ive had my hunter since vanilla - i was always a BM main so as good as these changes are, unfortunately do nothing for me, my hunter will sadly remain retired

[@bretwalton6535]

@@HardtoReach No pet no play.

[@Rubycario-yt]

I like the new direction they’re moving in with hunters, but I really wish they’d give us a proper archer class in some way. No pets, not tied to nature or anything, just a man with a bow. I feel like they keep trying to do that with MM and it’s just not working, a new class that’s more in theme with Legolas for example would be kinda cool imho.

[@arfenos_porrows]

I always wanted that, kind of like a ranged weapons warrior

[@intheend6433]

I feel like that would be a cool new rogue spec tbh. Either a 4th one or redesign one of the existing ones, cause they're all kinda similar and a bit superfluous at the moment. All melee, all shadowdance, etc.

[@andrespolanco3182]

A new class entirely would fill this gap. Not sure what to call it, but making it use bows/rifles for a sharpshooter/sniper kind of play, and the other spec using dual pistols for a Gunslinger style.

[@BigBoneBusiness]

Rogue or Warrior would be prime for that. Hunter has always been a little bit like a D&D Ranger, guy with a bow and pet and a sprinkle of magic. As time went on they dropped some of the magic stuff for gadgets but not completely.

[@graysaltine6035]

or maybe people could just stop whining about their pet on MM and go play BM like they're supposed to. We were this close to having exactly what you're describing, but carebear pokemon collectors don't know they're playing the wrong spec. Scrap the eagle too - there's nothing it does that couldn't be baked into some kind of shot, trap or gadget. Just get all of that fuzzy furry nature shit the hell away from my big gun.

[@edwardschmalz3171]

I definitely am of the Legolas fantasy, where a pet is really not a big component of my hunter playing

[@Zeph914]

Kul tiran hunter of mine looks like a space marine imo. Survival hunter with sword and pistols throwing bombs everywhere is only thrown off when the pet dies or is out of range..

[@MrZemIan]

Would love to see a Rapid Fire animation that isn't auto attack fast forward. It looks lame, old and stupid. They should really do something about that. Been bugging me a long time now 😕

[@sllevy]

What I would really like to see would be the ability to access all my hunter pets regardless of the character I'm logged in as. It's frustrating to create a new hunter and have to tame all the pets again.

[@GwennthBlg]

I mean, really , the Draenei on the cover resembles you my man.

[@TyMonger1432]

I have mained MM since WoD and I am sooooooooo excited!!!1 And thank you Blizz for bringing pets back! Don't use em a whole lot but like to have them when I want them!

[@ezs_91]

As an MM hunter, I'm excited for these changes. Especially that we get our pets back. A few wishlist items: 1) Let us customize our eagles. I'm talking Warlock or Druid levels of customization. The UI already exists for it. 2) Rework the MM hero talents. Please, PLEASE give us some options that are NOT Sentinel/Dark Ranger. In no way do Sentinel/DR represent the class fantasy of say a Dwarf, an Orc, or a Kul Tiran Human. Sentinel Gnome? Dark Ranger Goblin? It's ridiculous. We need some kind of spec that fits the hunter overall (the way Pack Leader does). How about something like Big Game Hunter and Sharpshooter? Sharpshooter (for Beast Mastery and Marksmanship) - hone in on the sniper fantasy even more, maybe even add stealth elements? Fits Marksmanship perfectly, and also works with BM (pets keep an enemy's attention, hunter takes it out). Big Game Hunter (for Survival and Marksmanship) - focus more on the big game hunter elements of the class. Improve traps and control with this hero talent. Maybe things like nets that you can AoE marker drop (like a trap) that nets an enemy. And then just keep Pack Leader the same.

[@OmegaMew2]

Blizzard should have just made Falconer spec for Hunters if they wanted Hunters to just use a Spotting Eagle and nothing more. I had a heart attack when I heard the original changes and just made all my MM Hunters either BM or Surv. This would have been much better as an initial announcement.

[@Junglewarfare]

The hunter fantasy should be killing a big thing and wearing its skin and bones as transmog. We are so far from that it is scary.

[@Dehrild]

I play my Hunter as a Goblin Tinker fantasy. As MM he's a lone sniper with a rifle, as BM he sends out explosive sheep and mechanical hounds, as Surv it's all about the artificer/bomb fantasy. I ***HATE*** the Hero Talents, ESPECIALLY for MM. Because there is just no good option there. My Goblin Sniper either ends up using some weird Owl/Moon magic that makes no sense at all, or an edgy Shadow/Death Magic wielder shooting spooky arrows (FROM HIS RIFLE) and summoning chains and Shadow Hounds??? And now I've got some random ass Eagle getting involved in the mix for a minor visual flair and really not much else since it's all passive and not very exciting. Feels like an extra layer of out-of-place lame for absolutely no reason at all, really. I really dislike how Blizz completely forces some class/specs into REALLY niche fantasy -- Druid is a big victim of that, once again having the "Only Elves Exist" syndrome. It's a real Round Block in Triangle Hole type situation that REALLY didn't need to happen and I don't understand it. EDIT: At least I can celebrate not being forced to have a pet as MM, or to use a non-mechanical pet as BM since no mech pet can BL. Now my BM can use all mech--... oh no, wait, nevermind, I'll have the freaking Pack Leader animals showing up every 10s; that or Spooky Elf Magic Arrows again. I like the Pack Leader rework gameplay-wise, but it was the only one that allowed me to have a Hero talent that doesn't ruin my character's fantasy... and now it's gone too.

[@СузаннаСергеевна]

You don’t have to use the skeleton hound trait, the alternative is only a 1% or so DPS loss. Without the skeleton hound trait Dark Ranger really just makes your kill shot purple instead of red. The bigger issue for your fantasy is Murder of Crows, which sadly there isn’t an alternative for.

[@p5ych]

all i want is an option to play completely with guns or a entirely new "deadeye" spec that wields 2 one hand pistols or a two hand gun, that only shoots bullets

[@madcappx]

@dehrild I do exactly the same thing but with survival exclusively. A goblin tinker type character throwing bombs and I have the exact same concern with the pack leader rework! I wish they would just add a glyph to turn those pack leader animals into mechanical versions ☹

[@Geraduss]

They should have just added Ranger class to add more ranged weapon users, and they could give them the moon/shadow/strider style specs, and leave the hunter be as it was meant to be. Maybe even add a ranged spec to the Rogue to compensate of giving a melee spec to the hunter.

[@pawlarsen7815]

I want the Gun sound back 😂

[@godlygamer911]

New to the idea of addons?

[@Raespawning]

@OP, there's an addon for that called OldGunSounds on Curseforge. If you end up giving it a go I hope you enjoy it!

[@Robzeke]

@@godlygamer911 Or Blizzard could stop forgetting glyphs exist and add more spell and ability customization.

[@ShadowsOfThePast]

Is there also a way to get the splatter sounds back when playing rogue? I'd like those back very much too..

[@godlygamer911]

@ ... this might be the dumbest thing I have ever read... a KB addon is too hard for you and Blizz should take care of it for you? This is the most WoW player thing I have ever read

[@bananagoose1224]

you d ride blizz on the weirdest things...

[@shnobz_kotik]

I think that the eagle is actually working as intended, because the eagle is not the core fantasy of new MM hunter. The core fantasy is petless hunter, and eagle is just a way to keep pet functionality in a petless spec. Eagle being barely noticeable is a goal, not a problem.

[@AdeptPaladin]

The core fantasy of every hunter is pet use. So yes, the Eagle *IS* the core fantasy of the new MM.

[@shnobz_kotik]

@@AdeptPaladin Ranged weapons were a core of every hunter. Until Survival rework. The same with pets. It was core. And now it is not.

[@CL-jq1xs]

​@@AdeptPaladinlegolas got no pet

[@Elriste]

@@AdeptPaladin Some of us like to play an archer without the brainrotting pets. Lecture us about hunter fantasy after you get us a proper archer class.

[@СузаннаСергеевна]

I’d be fine with forcing all hunters to use pet if they add a ranged spec to rogue. Rogues are way more fun to play anyway.

[@blazeofglory2882]

I genuinely think they missed out on a sniper hero tree for MM or even "Rifleman" style talent tree. Given us different kinds of passive ammo buffs to swap through that just all do some form of increased damage. Maybe should have given a buff to make explosive shot go BOOM harder if you wanted to embrace the past where engineers were almost synonymous with hunters because making your own ammunition tended to be better then most ammo you could buy off vendors.

[@PatrickBrophy]

The new MM is a nice direction, but I feel the overall design is still too clunky, especially when you look at how free flowing both BM and SV are. I want MM to be less turret and gain back the mobility the class has always been known to have. Also it is still going to be overshadowed by how good the new Pack Leader BM is.

[@profrollchen9946]

Gonna call a shot with a big if: IF Blizz continues the overall good class changes then there could be a new feature ahead of us: ARPG like hero talents. For example: MM Hunter could have 3 to 5 unique hero talents that all revolve around a different fantasy. Dark Ranger, Elven / Magic, Sniper, Falconeer, etc... So in the end we would have a base spec that outlines roughly what the concept is and a bunch of hero talents that define how you wanna play the spec. They could push it even to the point where you gain sub roles, like the aug evoker (A more offensive tank / off tank, buffing and shielding healspeccs). Ever since they gave the shaman the totem hero talents I had a feeling that this could be a test with a very limited pool of hero talents. It could also solve the problem for new xpacs because you don't need to introduce new things by making classes more complex, you could just introduce new hero talent trees.

[@gleadr6869]

Glad they changed it, i've played MM since Vanilla WITH a pet. BM isn't bad but always preferred MM.

[@JediShark]

Have the eagle perch on you out of combat. Add different skins for the eagle. Add naming the eagle

[@TheWideMurloc]

Tbh I think every spec could use a third hero spec option that just enhances the base spec fantasy, like a sniper for mm, or wildsman for survival, etc. And I don’t just mean for hunter either. I’m sure lots of other classes would appreciate not being forced into a new archetype

[@ElitenOfficial]

maybe in the future.

[@Fentonius1337]

I get what you mean about marksmanship hunters wishing they had the pet, but at the end of the day the nuance and class fantasy of the spec has always been about being an archer or sniper, not about having pets to tank. And then in the same breath you complain about the hero talents not giving you the fantasy when I feel the removal of the pet was opening doors for it. As a Hunter main I personally wish they had kept the change.

[@wm9729]

priest needs this, skill animations are 144p

[@Geraduss]

As survival hunter I feel like that meme where the kid is drowning while the mon plays with her favourite, and those two are MM and BM. I'm just the ones who's dead and off screen underwater.

[@nezr32]

Yep, exactly that.

[@ElluzhinYT]

If blizz doesnt make a eagle noise for the buffs...maybe WA or curseforge will make a voicepack for it. It would be great.

[@Uttelito]

blizzard : oh, you think hunters are back? hold my beer.

[@catrinastars]

A flourish of feathers just explodes around the hunter when it goes off. Could even drop a speed up feather similar to how the Legion MM ability worked.

[@MrBrianclaz]

Wish they had not done away with the serpent stalkers trickery. Hunter is a little boring in the visual side and not having that aimed shot with the serpent sting together shooting off also takes away from the visual. Kinda makes aimed a bit blah visually

[@poundsofslothcigars]

I havent seriously played hunter for about 8yrs now and i think its a nice time to comeback to it

[@Dreamerlok]

They could just make the eagle spawn right next to you while attacking, and when it procs, you could see it attack. Something so simple like that would make it better.

[@MGC-XIII]

I am so ready for MM I also want them to do a gunslinger/tinkerer

[@peepeeman4740]

MM should be no pet, just give it a some extra supplemental abilities that function like pet abilities or something

[@nightwing367]

The Legolas with a gun spec... so the Legunlas? I'll see myself out.

[@alanbuhtz4384]

For the time being, I think I'll be playing with a pet tank while soloing (Eagle and Beagle), but doing the Full Eagle when I'm in a party with a tank. I don't being a Bark Ranger. ;)

[@SamMathewsOfficial]

Couldn't disagree more. MM and Survival feel aweful on the PTR compared to what we have now! Hate the changes sooo much!

[@MLink7]

I want old survival back

[@stevehall364]

They should just have the Eagles swoop in to drop traps and perform all the utility stuff. Make it a small advantage like demonology has where you can drop traps without breaking your current cast or interrupting your gcd

[@KushanGaming]

Was on the fence about not pet at all. I'm really looking forward to these changes now. Time to give the PTR a go.

[@MMOcritic]

Been a MM Hunter since vanilla. Even in TBC when BM one button rotation was “better.” I spent years loving the class but hating how MM played. So much so I played other classes. I really hope this makes MM enjoyable and not clunky horse manure. My hopes are high ❤

[@isabliss9064]

They should look at Assassin's Creed for the eagle. Making us interact with them, talk with them, making them a true friend. Also, if this is the eagle then they really could have done a better job designing one that is actually looking like modern graphics.

[@Jonas.Sargent]

How cool would it be if the egal sits on the shoulder and flys off on certain triggers to the target or flys up for the next action. This way it feels more connected to the character and is not a random thing unconnected coming from the sky.

[@Spiritt_Daphiti]

Hunter is nothing....without it's Hunt ! Now they are prepared....Sease your destiny Heroic Lady's .

[@MongoIndyleo]

I have always liked MM a lot, it was like the 2nd spec I ever learned. I got pretty hype in the middle of the video hoping to try it out and then i remembered that I would have to play the hero talents. I'm glad you brought it up in the end. My hope is that they just add a glyph or something that would allow the Dark Ranger hero talent to not look like a dark ranger. Simply casting black arrow isn't that dark ranger-y, it's mostly just the darkhounds and the animations that make it seem kind of like a Dark Ranger. Just get rid of the shadowy effects on the animations and then make it so that the dark hounds look like something in your stable or even just some normal dogs/wolves and I'd be fine with playing it and then I could actually try out MM Hunter again.

[@TheMindfulOne]

That's what they said last time...

[@mem5000]

It looks cool, and almost makes me want to play again.... but I cannot help shake the fear that Blizz is gonna just revamp it 2 months from now and make it suck. I enjoyed WOD mm hunter.. then they changed it in legion. I eventually got to where i enjoyed Legion MM hunter.. then they changed it in BFA. I got to where i tolerated it in BFA and it survived mostly intact into SL... when i quit the game. It's hard to get excited because I feel like i can't trust them!

[@TartanKiwi]

With the eagle, you could have a glyph to have the eagle fly or hover close to your character, then when it is going to mark someone soar off upward, do the animation it'd normally do to mark a target then dragon riding style swoop in behind the player and assume its spot again. All visual, no additional bloat, adds to the fantasy if you want it as it is a glyph.

[@TartanKiwi]

In addition, glyphs to change the look of the eagle. Undead, mystical, mechanical, etc.

[@TheMetroidblade]

There’s so much blizzard could do if they brought back the original glyph system where you could see what you had equipped and on what. If they built that out….

[@Candlemancer]

​@TheMetroidblade The old glyph system was garbage. The system isn't the problem, it's that since they introduced it they've removed twice as many glyphs as they've added

[@sirinity664]

wish Blizzard would fix Druids. Feral been dead for 3-4 expansions now.

[@ghostsofspeed]

Until they make BM S Tier , it's a hard pass.

[@ElitenOfficial]

Gonna be fun to see if this spec will actually compete this time around.

[@victoriavvc]

Man, now all they need to do is allow for buying only one month of game time at a time again

[@saindst]

The reason why hunter will always feel stuck in the past gameplay wise, is because whenever there is changes, any feedback about gameplay is LITERALLY DROWNED OUT BY IDIOTS TALKING ABOUT F ING ANIMALS AND LEGOLAS FANTASY... or or or SURVIVAL DUAL WIELD!

[@Echo22WC]

It's disappointing because BM makes more sense as melee, then that would have opened SV up to the ranged gun marksman with tricks & traps. But someone at deactivision dropped the ball big time.

[@Zack_Wester]

I think the problem is that in classic Hunter was. here is a list of tools you can use. each tallent was a you focus on one of said tools. Like example Marksmen was focusing on your range weapon (you still had your traps, melee and pet). beast master was focusing on your pet (you still had the range weapon, melee weapon and traps). Survival was focusing on your your traps plus sneaky stuff (you still had everything else). I stomped playing in cata but I know that Blizzard removed pets for all tallents exept beast master. and one of the spec locked the hunter into melee as I understand it. something I found completely backwards. note when I played Melee for a hunter was sort of bad like dont do it expect for one tree where going into melee was sort of a really interest ide in that other classes did not expect that a hunter going intentionally into melee. But for me as a marksmen been in melee was a bad thing.. that said I dont remmber if I grabed a tallents or something but what I remember was having some fun getting into melee just to use the one melee ability and then using the disange ability and slaming my target whit the slow spell.

[@crossmission]

I love MM. Hate pets. If they made a Hero Tree called Lone Hunter for MM and SV and integrate the new eagle playstyle to SV I might even start playing SV. Oh and the miracle of maybe making SV a tank, oof. I've never played it as I started playing in BfA but I'd love to try that. Like SV pets tanking but player has to be within certain range and not afk the other side of the room.

[@Kaboose-fb7bk]

Hunter since TBC. We really hit peak class fantasy in Legion. Double pet BM, MM hitting like a truck, and even SV being a sleeper pvp bomb. Now all 3 specs just feel like watered down parodies of what they used to be. Im hoping this MM rework fixes it.

[@Marlfox70]

Really hope you're right about this. I haven't enjoyed MM much since legion.

[@northernprepper1173]

why in gods name did they make aspect of the cheetah only last for 3 seconds instead of permanent it is absolutely useless now

[@krismoreland2792]

This wont last people will cry that MM is broken and nerfs will hit xD

[@user-zn1db9fe5w]

Good fix for people WHO want pets and not.

[@merlylvsm]

Fury warrior but ranged? Honestly, why not.

[@RichieKhan]

I actually don’t like the new MM trueshort aura. Aimed shots take way too long especially for opening pull. It doesn’t feel as explosive as before.

[@youmeanbean]

Still missing 2 target cleave...

[@isenhart2920]

Legolas never used an eagle. Because he shouldn't need to, just like my lone wolf hunter shouldn't. Why didn't they just make a new spec called "rifleman, longbow man or sniper?" He's a ranged specialist, not Peacemaker and Eagley.

[@oxidtv313]

The eagle should just stand on your shoulder like a trainer. And just start flying from your shoulder to the adds once it proc and come back.

[@elchikoriko592]

Spark joy gang!

[@Irissi90]

Since now we have meaningful way of solo progression in the form of Delves, it would be nice to see Your opinion about how the specs works without group support. Other than that, nice video and nice changes!

[@victoriavvc]

Also i remember when my fav version of mm hunter was back during warlords of draenor *siiigh* good times

[@AxelS]

I just need survival become a tank with his pet…

[@usaid1234]

I love the MM changes but removing Fortitude of Bear for MM is a severe survivability loss for dungeons which really sucks

[@MrGuybrush10]

are they any changes comming to BM or is this all about MM?

[@RpGirlRizo]

If you're going to give me an eagle, then give me a blitz spell that incorporates the eagle like RO did! That shit was so fun!

[@Icy_Shadow_5]

When I see a video about "Hunter Revamp" and get excited, only for it to not include literally ANY changes for Survival, you lost me.

[@nezr32]

Yep, exactly that. Survival needs a proper revamp. I don't fancy the idea of playing a worse Beast Mastery spec the slightest.

[@DuhReason]

Aimed shot should of been hitting for more than a mill everytime.. I mean it takes 3 to 5 bidness days to cast

[@Hoigwai]

And nothing for Beastmaster, again.

[@jakewy4247]

I enjoy MM right now in the war within so the fact he's saying it's more fun, excites me!

[@omgnerv]

here to represent one oft the other MM hunters who don't feel like ballular. just in case someone from blizzard looks through the comments... Legolas has NEVER EVER been my fantasy to play in WoW. If I wanted to play "Legolas" i'd have chosen LoTR as my game. I also don't agree on the whole "MM should be gunslinger" fantasy. if that is YOUR fantasy fine. i have no problem with blizzard giving you and your fellows one or two additional hunter speccs or a whole new gunslinger class. but i don't see why YOUR fantasy should be more valid than mine. and MM as it was and has evolved over the past 20 years has always fitted MY fantasy. I don't know if you guys have ever looked at hunter IRL. where i come from this means a person with a rifle or a huntingbow who is usually accompanied by a dog. it's a person of the woods, connected to nature. it's not some military sharpshooter guy.

[@dreioo8759]

I'll try it out when I hop on WoW for a cozy time

[@pavle480]

I do not want eagle. It completely destroys what I've been wanting to avoid since the beginning of time. At least give a glyph to make it a vulture or a bat or something. Why does my unded have an eagle following him around?

[@CL-jq1xs]

because that does not matter until they got the class rework right

[@matthewf1979]

Free AOE is huge. I can't wait for 11.1!

[@AkiRa22084]

Can the eagle Fetch? I only care about Fetch, no time to level Engi for the Loot-A-Rang.

[@NorthInium]

The changes are good as I love my main Alt Night Elf Huntress but what I kinda want to see how big the sentinel area is now because depending on how big it is it could definitely be a problem in Mythic+ especially now that its moving.

[@Christopher_42]

ye make hunters even more op good idea

[@havtor007]

Yeah you have not played the game much and it shows

[@Christopher_42]

@@havtor007 lol hunter speaking, you like easy fights 1 rapid fire kills dont you?

[@havtor007]

@@Christopher_42 You are again showing you are so ignorant about the game that you do not even know what is going on. You literally would not be able to know if anything of this was good or bad because of how little you understand

[@Christopher_42]

@ go play the op meta bro and no waste time on chat.

[@havtor007]

@@Christopher_42 That is where you are wrong it is not meta

[@MrHuntervad]

Dual wield survival happens when old survival spec gameplay comes back in any way, on any class, so don't hope anymore.

[@jasons5916]

Or, they could get rid of the eagle altogether and have the animations be non-animal based since the spec is not supposed to be pet/animal -centric any more.

[@avstzn]

I wish balance druid would get a full redesign from the ground up

[@chrisbalcu4033]

Its like the devs dont even play the classes they work on huh?

[@matt2d2007]

So is there no draw back for playing with a pet? like the lone wolf passive?

[@joshmang]

This is definitely a step in the right direction, but I'd love to see more flashy spell effects for hunters. I enjoy the visual excitement, and since it's a fantasy game, I wish they would experiment more with the effects on the shots.

[@kinbailey310]

We always say that, then they nerf the crap out of them.

[@BonespiritMcgee]

The difference between this new MM and current Destro is like the difference between a prius and a civic. Kinda disappointing.

[@prisonbox69]

The face i make every time i see a hunter in wow is the title screen, "disgusting"

[@TheFlyWahine]

So this means blizzard wants to COMPLETLEY remove the pet system!? If they do that then there's no point for me to have any hunter character.

[@d_ressu]

Finally my spec has been overhauled! :D I sure hope we don't suck in arenas tho haha

[@plasma93100]

So... still no serpent sting back?