blizzard.

[@xala973]

I remember when I used to go look into Blizzard's career openings and dream about working there, as a teenager.

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

Now imagine people who realized that dream and were hired, only to realize it was actually a nightmare.

[@HyakujuuNoKaidou]

@Dumb Memer its already happened

[@zackvenox]

@Dumb Memer Discord has been criticized for having furries/pedophiles as employees, I wouldn't wanna be part of taht

[@Zeamond]

@@zackvenox what exactly is wrong with being a furry and why are you putting us in the same category as pedophiles?

[@zackvenox]

​@@Zeamond I never put them in the same category, hence the " / ". And also, please enlighten me what isn't wrong with being a furry. It's a mental illness. You sexualize animals, there's a lot wrong with it. Your argument will be "Well they're not actually animals, see, they stand on 2 legs and can talk" Fantasy or not, they're still animals with animal characteristics and instincts, and I don't care what you do as long as you keep it to yourself and people with the same fantasy, but there's still something wrong with it

[@cyrielroelofs]

Blizzard: these accusations are false Also Blizzard: we don’t do that anymore Blizzard in a week or two: “we like to introduce another VERY SPECIAL store mount to WoW”

[@sharlockshacolmes9381]

New mount : The Cube Crawler

[@Shinnouryu]

A LGBT friendly mount that also supports women being harassed and all minorities in the world. The playerbase will pay for their apology.

[@apolloeosphoros4345]

@@Shinnouryu don't forget the donation soft cap

[@ErikLeonardWagner]

its prolly gonna be a huge plug

[@michaelmardling3152]

More like, "we would like to give everyone who is subbed still to World of Warcraft a pick of any Mount that was removed from game/ and or any mount drop in game Free of charge" + " we will be dropping the sub fee to $5 for everyone"

[@Farfa]

Never ceases to amaze me how well thought out and articulated Asmon is over his passion. This is awful news and it's good to see your balanced and appropriate take.

[@edwardtherhea6818]

I would want him as my lawyer

[@Tony-hn8qy]

Nobody asked.

[@apophisrising6154]

@@Tony-hn8qy Stop liking your own comments

[@MichaelDeGar]

Never ceases to amaze me that asmon defended call me carson.

[@aerinmartinez2455]

hi nadir

[@steve81937]

Blizzard next week: we added the sexual harassment panda as a store pet to WoW!

[@darkfox1605]

underrated comment

[@Qoozord]

every 0.01 cent will go to charity and women support

[@factuallyincorrectandbiase9790]

New store mount : cube crawler

[@cindthialarrabee6544]

Unfortunately that is more of "The harrassee" panda pet because most Pandarens I've met in game have to be overly abrasive on my RP realm(s) I've played on to ward off creeps so hard.

[@StevenMichaelCunningham]

Liquidation. Same business & such but real deal combat in all it's diplomacy (baddies to to prison not a generalized population..) but.....

[@bayrocktoolong]

You know he's serious if his eyebrows aren't moving like an unorganised raid-group

[@rambii.]

Haha I was thinking the same thing

[@Permuh]

Locked in on concerned mode

[@mofushi3163]

Yeah. He is totally resolved in what he is saying. I have seen enough of him and his mannerisms to know when he goes from gamer mode to serious mode. This was not fun for him, bit he felt he needed to say what he said. Much respect to him for saying how he feels on the subject.

[@meno2294]

asmengold is a act zack is who he is

[@deekorbel5259]

OMG your right I hadn't noticed.

[@enzo_uk8703]

“The next big wow killer”…. Blizzards internal affairs 😬

[@Goodpatron]

Just like ancient Rome. 🤔

[@CedricBassman]

Blizzards internal affairs only duty would be clean up and shredding evidence. If anyone brings down this Company, they will not come from within xD

[@snowlockk3464]

Maybe they will turn this into a game. They seem to have a lot of domain experiance.

[@wmen48]

So anal killed wow

[@Kailhun]

It's more the attitude of the influencial people in Blizzard. These people seem to have a shitty attitude towards people: their female employees, their employees in general, their players. Is it surprising that a company that has a culture of harrasing female employees and treating their employees badly, also doesn't listen to their player-base? The basic problem underlying this culture is no respect for other people. Well, it's a thought.

[@zoetaylor8240]

Just recently over 800 employees put out a letter to Acti-Blizz leadership saying they stand against their statements. At the same time it came out Activision leadership had a zoom call saying they were going to double down on denying and fighting the case.

[@StridingJack425]

Oh wow where did you find this info? Is there a link to the letter and the zoom call

[@midnightbloomofeorzea7182]

@@StridingJack425 ign just posted an article about it, apparently it's actually over 1000 signatures. Not sure about the zoom call though

[@jeffreysmith1314]

Zoom call article was posted to wowhead

[@Momo-xt2hu]

Trese pfp man of culture aren't you 😉

[@TheNethertyp]

stand against which statements?

[@XxHrallundeadrogueXx]

The Hong Kong Protest incident, the Greed when it came to the Tournnament Prize pools, we saw which side they would take. With over 2,000 signing the letter, just

[@zanagi]

Just?

[@TheNekgned]

that Hong Kong thing is a bit different but yeah Blizzard fucked up big time on this one.

[@ricky_pigeon]

@@TheNekgned "bit different" money over human-rights is no fucking different to what they are going through inside the company.

[@spiritofthewolf1880]

Never forget what happened to Blitzchung.

[@Glade4]

@@spiritofthewolf1880 Yea he broke tournament rules and got banned, stop pretending he didnt break the rules

[@A7XvDisturbed]

"You feel betrayed." God... I remember playing a Warcraft: Orcs and Humans match with my dad while he was on a business trip over a dial-up direct connection when I was 3 or 4 years old. One of the first games I ever played and one of the earliest memories I have of anything.

[@Tieslo]

that sounds so badass

[@lobsterrj]

@@Tieslo because it is, my 1st dial-up game was Warcraft II. "your soundcard works perfectly"

[@whiskeySe7en]

That's really cool dude

[@Viniperrud3]

I have similar memories!! 😍

[@sardaarkhan5860]

Remember WPVP? Remember active zones? Remember having fun? No honor decay, No world buffs in raids, No afk mage boosting, anti botting system, No goldsellers, vanilla done right! Darrowshire F R E S H 30/07/21

[@heragon58]

I get now why blizzard hates him. They project their own isms onto him while he is being genuin and the most normal person ever. Destroying them with straight facts.

[@Jamesgates355]

Blizzard loves throwing all their Tisms at him, and really anyone else who criticizes them while actually being the true massives

[@Jamesgates355]

@richtea78 oh Blizz 100% hates him, maybe not everyone but the company does, its bad for business when someone who was your biggest streamer streams another MMO and talks about the massive problems that the company is not fixing

[@SirZipper]

@@Jamesgates355 Too bad they did it to themselves.

[@thiccroman]

Lol “blizzard” doesnt hate him. Blizzard is made up of 90% good people who work hard and love the games. The higher ups at blizzard might hate him.

[@Finish303]

I'm shadowbanned by Bliz on their videos, while I just pointed out the facts. They dislike anybody calling out their unending greed...

[@lordbacon9918]

The first step of Square's Redemption Arc of Final Fantasy was admitting failure and acknowledging where they failed. In the end they had to replace half the team including director/producer. Blizzard has a long way to go.

[@Akatosh888]

Square Enix is just as bad. Don't get ahead of yourself.

[@StridingJack425]

What happened with square?

[@theodorerigopoulos6509]

@@Akatosh888 he was talking about the final fantasy xiv situation.

[@cyryl3827]

It's the difference in the CEO's approach, isn't it? Square Enix top brass, were full of pride, blind to the possibility of failure. When they failed, they didn't double down to hide it... they understood, that consumer satisfaction comes first. While I'm fairly certain Square isn't free of it's own issues (they do love their microtransactions and mobile games, and as a Japanese company most likely have the same issues with employee treatment most Japanese companies have), it at the very least understands the importance of trust. ActiBlizz? The very top? Kotick, board of directors, etc? They have no understanding of that. To them the consumers and employees alike, are cows to be milked.

[@lolomgwtfbbqqqq]

Won't happen

[@hawkshot867]

Imagine having someone as intelligent and well-spoken as Zack literally giving you free marketing, but you think he's an "asshole".

[@Brunoki22]

“How dare people watch his videos as opposed to dumping their money into our game?! He should be dealt with, so people only play and pay and not watch and… NOT pay!”

[@Sioolol]

Blizzard literaly holds your good memories about the company hostage to make you fuel their desire for money.

[@catzor4795]

Nintendo too.

[@slothfulfool5917]

@@catzor4795 Eh nintendo at least still makes some good games, Gamefreak on the other hand.

[@NobleRed]

Nostalgia is extremely lucrative, second only to sex

[@cptFleury]

They use it to also underpay their employees. Using their name and people's passion for their games as a way to lowball their salaries

[@marsupialmole3926]

@@slothfulfool5917 Game Freak have finally handed the reins to the main series to a different company for the DP remakes, so we might se an improvement... I doubt it though

[@Vardi_]

“J. Allen Brack is gonna have to wear a whole lot of pins when he talks about this one” So fucking true LOL

[@theatfshotmydog8224]

Just like Hollywood, they’ll wear their pins, give their speeches and signal their virtues then pat themselves on the back.

[@jonathon9581]

So much true.

[@Vardi_]

@@theatfshotmydog8224 based

[@wishheart]

What does gonna have to wear a whole lot pins mean? Got language barriered a little here 😅

[@mrksjke]

It means virtue signaling too f-ing hard

[@colgabister4429]

Our boy comparing Blizzard and EA, and EA looking like the better company. Damn that's bad

[@andyf1235]

Yeah when you worse than EA things are in the shitter

[@timjack4650]

EA is just greedy . This pile of shit are both greedy and illegal.

[@DarkThagan]

@@timjack4650 Wilson looks like a James Bond villain, Bobby looks like a creepy uncle. Turns out the looks are fitting.

[@oximofo9]

Bioware as much as their games are shit and they've defended them and their choices, they never said the fans are idiots, they just disagree, and or will sunset a failing game. Think of laughable fan vitriol for ME3, DA2, MEA, and Anthem and they were never as adversarial with the fans, maybe a bit to rough with industry pros reviewing the games, but hey they're not fans.

[@dylanragon]

As much shit as EA gets (rightfully so perhaps) it has always been because their games and policies can be anti consumer. Believe it or not their working environments are actually one of the best in the industry. That deserves some praise i feel

[@mac4491]

Even preach is done with WoW now. Actually crazy to see the day.

[@pgplaysvidya]

i was simultaneously shocked and not shocked he quit wow. good on him. please like and subscribe to preach and support him while he figures out the new direction of his channel people who make their livelihood playing video games shouldn't be punished because blizzard management are a bunch of rapists

[@Iqnacio.]

ikr we always said that wow was dying, that blizzard was dying, but it never happened cause it was only the game having a bad stretch, this time however is completely different, not only the bad in-game stretch has gone longer than ever but the irl is way, way worse and I don't see how they would actually get out of this situation, they can get rid of some bad apples, but the tree is rotten to the core.

[@zauxst]

Well, they should not make their livelihood around a single game and then put a tantrum based on whatever social drama surrounding the game that he plays.

[@BigDaddyWes]

@@zauxst While not putting all of your eggs in one basket is generally good advice, in this specific instance you're pretty out of line. When you say something like that it just shows that you have a complete lack of empathy and understanding and have no concept of what's actually going on in this landscape. The relationship between gaming content creators and the developers of the games they play is this weird symbiotic relationship where the success of one leads to the success of the other. Some people really can't wrap their heads around that, but to say they shouldn't have gone down that (extremely lucrative) path is simply immature and stupid. To reduce that content to "tantrums" based on "social drama" is quite ridiculous. I can see how you'd interpret it as such, but that's just because you're ignorant and will likely never be passionate about something enough to even begin to understand the true disappointment and dissatisfaction people have towards Blizzard, especially people like Preach. It really doesn't matter if you get it or not, but to go around in public forums talking shit about people in this way just makes me glad I'm not dealing with whatever issues turned you into a person that behaves like this.

[@josephgergurich8774]

he wasnt even that good at wow lmao

[@infinityPyros]

Waiting on the Internet Historian video to come out “Blizzards Nuclear Winter”

[@Tom-lg9ee]

Almost heaven. Western Plaguelands. Red ridge mountains. Northshire river.

[@tinnathedogteapotthehuman3967]

@@Tom-lg9ee country roads, take me home, to the place, I belong Western plague laaaaands

[@that1otherguy93]

You son of a bitchh.. Take my like

[@Frozenbozo]

Honestly all the blizzard drama that has happened in the last decade would make a great Internet Historian video

[@alexrandall8557]

I hope it's more like "how blizzard went bankrupt"

[@RobidyBobidy1]

"All work on world of warcraft has halted" So, nothing has changed?

[@Jais0910]

Well the sexual harrasment has probably stopped aswell, so something changed

[@shane-zl8bu]

Kekw

[@Zarod89]

They can't ruin the game if they stop working on it ;)

[@Shimonotoki]

@@Zarod89 You forgot "even more" in your sentence. ;)

[@NigtMareZero]

WoW now get's the HotS treatment.

[@stankweezul5715]

I cant wait to see who they use as their scapegoat

[@MrSparten177]

right now the players are a scapegoat

[@cyrielroelofs]

Blizzard never blames anyone or anything, I don’t see them doing so now

[@Shinnouryu]

Can't you see it? The playerbase is part of the problem! Because we want consistent patches and good content! While we should shut up, pay and wait for patches to be ready even if it takes a year! (That's sarcarms, just in case)

[@jamestomlin5525]

They're already saying it's the players fault, so~

[@MichaelDeGar]

ASMON SUPPORTS CARSON

[@RetroTaylor94]

Its important to remember that no company has ever been your friend. A company can't love you. Never emotionally attach yourself to a brand or corporation. You can still like a product as long as you think its worth your money, But never forget to stop buying it once it's not.

[@四季朝]

Doritos has never let me down and I have an emotional attatchment to them.

[@DateMasamune1636]

@@四季朝 same with takis for me

[@zignitz]

Well not all of them all the time, companies like people can change for better or worse. General rule is the more profit oriented a company is the worse it is for the customer.

[@TheDacman88]

When you talked about how great starcraft used to be it gave me chills. The game is literally dead aside from the top 5% of players. Blizzard let some of the greatest game franchises of all time wither away like a fart in the wind. Congratulations Bobby kottick you definitely deserve that multi million dollar raise. Good job

[@aurawolf664]

i want to challenge Bobby Nodick to a Mak'gora

[@Jabarri74]

But hey cod bruh cod. same game every year bro and the suckers fall for it. Why cant wow do it like that? screw patches we want wowod

[@marvin8291]

i still remember watching dreamhack with artosis as a caster. it was so epic and even though they didnt reach that many viewers, they simply didnt know how to fight against the rising LoL and other games. this franchise still has SO MUCH POTENTIAL

[@scring713]

The same thing happened with Overwatch. It was good for a while, or I found it fun at least, but they doubled down with the esports shit and wanted to be the next CSGO and alienated 90% of the playerbase. Brigitte was my breaking point, that shit was so unfun and flawed at a conceptual level they never once found a way to make her fun to play against, the only option would be to remove her from the game entirely. As far as I know, that game is dead now, I never hear anything about it anymore. Esports is the worst thing to happen to multiplayer gaming.

[@JackMarsk]

Activision decision making for Blizzard games more or less seemed to be "Make every game more like Call of Duty, it sells more and appeals to more players (payers) which give more profits so let's just water down and alienate the playerbase of every other game so that we can sell more copies to people who those games were never intended for to begin with" As a result, of course RTS games were going to get the chopping block for how little effort they put into keeping Starcraft alive. It's not a matter of whether the game is good or not (and it is good), it just wasn't "profitable" enough for them to care.

[@kiraakashiya7986]

I was literally just having this conversation with my dad. I didn't think it would bother me to the point I'd stop playing despite my disappointment, but it hit me yesterday that everywhere I looked, all the bugs around in the game and problems for Shadowlands likely because of this entire shitshow and the mistreatment of employees. I have been playing WoW since I was 12 and this absolutely broke my heart.

[@chaty9903]

Yeah. It feels like the entire ship is taking water and not one room is dry now.

[@TommorowISNAP]

I have been sniping careers for fun on their website since years. I WAS even willing to become a fucking janitor at blizzard.

[@THBbon]

Just move on.

[@sammiedodge2513]

Unfountunely, our wallets will speak louder then any opinion. We should at least quit playing for awhile i think. To make a statement to them #boycottblizzard

[@MorfsPrower]

Honestly I want to say to play what you enjoy, but this is why I can't. I cannot, in good conscience, support people that mistreat their employees so heinously. It's depressing that Blizzard hasn't moved past the 1800s.

[@vabbiq8584]

Warcraft 3 was my escape back in middle school. Being picked on by other kids, being dumped by my first girlfriend, parents fighting and mom kicking dad out of the house.. Many times all I looked forward to was escaping to my room and my shitty PC to play through the campaigns over and over. Such fond memories :/

[@cammywammy420]

It sucks to think that the same bullying and harassment a lot of people went to blizzard games to escape were basically made by people who were going through the same stuff at work.

[@Maria_Erias]

@@cammywammy420 Sadly, that's the victim cycle. I bet a lot of the head honchos and stuff that are named in this suit were bullied as kids or teens, were the socially awkward or inept type. But then take them out of the victim role and put them in power? Suddenly, they're not the victim and they can do whatever they want. It's like how the majority of abusers were themselves abused.

[@lionart5230]

@@cammywammy420 Not back then.

[@lionart5230]

@@Maria_Erias That's rarely true. Mostly power hungry people, sociopaths and those who were bullying you are climbing up the ladder.

[@Maria_Erias]

@@lionart5230 In a normal corporation, yes. But Blizzard was started by gamers who just wanted to make games. I.e., the "old guard" who are at the center of this fiasco.

[@ShadowProject01]

The Cosby analogy is spot on. Betrayal is a tough pill to swallow. Sorry something you are so passionate about has come to this.

[@skinniemcfats5292]

ZERO evidence has been presented against Blizzard. We all saw all the people trotted out against Brett Kavanaugh with only he said she said accounts which was why there was no conviction in his case, same thing goes here. I do not buy into accusations ESPECIALLY when its driven by numerous people who got together so they could all get their story straight. Asmon is a chump for buying into this before any evidence has been presented. This is why gamers need to comment on games not on things outside of the game they know next to nothing about.

[@VegetaHimself]

I thought of this as more of a Weinstein level issue

[@jyerirummukainen7125]

@@skinniemcfats5292 You really need to be special kind of human being (assumed counted as human still), to doubt that there were anything wrong. Two year long investigation that proceeded lawsuit by state. Its not like the people who were investigating for 2 years came back like "all good on blizzard, nothing wrong there. LETS SUE THEM ANYHOW". This is why people who rides blizzard dick till the grave need to stop commenting things outside the game.

[@ChristianGyro]

@@skinniemcfats5292 stfu someone died

[@FEKana]

@@skinniemcfats5292 "no evidence" Two year long investigation done by the state: Are you sure about that? It's alright to be upset about things, especially if it's not your expert. You don't have to a chef to criticize a stale loaf of bread. Gamers are allowed to comment on industries they take art in,whether it be as a consumer or producer. This kind of thinking that " you shouldn't comment because you don't know/ aren't qualified to do so" is ridiculous. Are there situations you want a qualified experts opinion, of course. Doctors are one of those people. But in a situation like this, you don't have to be qualified in anything to understand why this might be even just a tiny bit bad. Also again no evidence? When multiple people come out with similar enough stories,yeah I begin to question a companies work environment. Now is there a possibility they're all magically lying and their plan involves all of them getting the story straight without any holes in them, of course because nothing is life is 100% guaranteed, however doubt they're all lying. I highly believe the work place accusations since the videogame industry seems to have a bit of trouble with toxic work place environments.

[@elementalgamer9879]

I remember how my dream was to go to school, learn programming and game design and work at blizzard.

[@jinn8027]

Same - i swapped majors during mop/wod because i sensed the industry was shifting and I was right

[@calebfairchild8745]

Same though I literally spent my entire life practicing and learning to become a concept artist for blizzard. over 10 years since I was 12. At least it led me to following my dreams and got me through foster care, but no way do I want to work there anymore.

[@gamingwithgeekwares4416]

Same went into the army instead

[@yournan7249]

Hahahah that's a terrible dream

[@subwayslut]

@@gamingwithgeekwares4416 same, except I went navy.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

The switch to FFXIV was perfectly timed. As if it was fate.

[@mantyxxx]

Or as if Asmon knew earlier, all OTK switched to FF14 plus Annie who is on good terms with Asmon. Remember Asmon is smarter dude than a lot of people think.

[@enragedsun1826]

I dont even care if it's FFXIV he chooses, but I really hope Zack just abandons WoW. He's been doing so well playing other games whether it's AOC, New World, or FFXIV; that I hope WoW becomes the game he just plays occasionally if at all rather than the other way around.

[@AliagaAyin]

@@mantyxxx this is too much of a conspiracy, and both asmon and annie enforce that they WILL still play wow and FF at the same time, but since they are new to FF they hav a lot to catch up to.

[@BenderdickCumbersnatch]

His WoW streams are extremely boring. The only fun part is his rants and the transmog competitions. So, are we gonna watch him be miserable and ranting about how bad WoW is? Or would we rather see him happy with new games? I vote for new games and new times.

[@BenderdickCumbersnatch]

That being said we all know he is addicted and has major sunk cost fallacy syndrome about his -years- decades of WoW grinding. He will never quit. Ever.

[@zwmmbrl7974]

I remember the times when I thought to myself: 'Man, Blizzard can't seem to do any wrong. I wonder how long they'll be able to keep this up.' It wasn't until a few years later when it all started going downhill.

[@PalleLemus]

You jinxed us all!!

[@PlsDontReadThis123]

I think back to those times and wonder how TotalBiscuit would have lambaisted modern blizzard for all of their faults.

[@monkieassasin]

They became puffed up and arrogant. That always leads to exploitation and negligence.

[@Gunplabro]

It's been going downhill since they got in bed with activision, man. Let's be real here.

[@NastroGG]

"I feel betrayed." That's the feeling that I couldn't quite put my finger on. Yeah man, I feel you.

[@ItsDatCajunStuff]

"We'll do better" is always corporate talk for "We'll wait until this blows over and change nothing." I hope things are different this time, that our collective frustration has finally boiled over.

[@Maria_Erias]

"We'll do better" actually means "We'll put everyone through mandatory sensitivity training but not actually enforce policy".

[@ryllian1]

I mean everyone forgot about the china blizzard controversy

[@Haunting_Hyena]

Kinda amazing how much the beanie suits him.

[@xviii5780]

He looks really good

[@franc1658]

Looks like a craft beer kinda guy

[@madhoze1549]

@@franc1658 Craft Beer Andy

[@sheesh3214]

A amazon beanie can change one's life

[@KenpachiGaKill]

Looks like the guy at the fire with a hand drum and a guitar xD

[@JohnnyTightIips]

"No king rules forever" - Blizzard prophesing their own death.

[@william3791]

imagine arthas accidentally falls off the frozen throne while polishing his frostmourne. because that's what happen with blizzard.

[@Xalocin]

Arthas didn’t delete himself though 😂

[@24Sparja]

@@Xalocin yeah blizzard deleted him

[@Dekatelon]

Well it's a self fulfilling prophecy

[@guscunnilin]

Mad season

[@snactimusmaximus]

“You guys have phones, right?” the way this was stated and immediately echoed on stage, with the tone it was is a clear window into the anti-gamer culture inside Blizzard.

[@rururururururrurururururur6038]

Fuck gamer culture.

[@Sorrowdusk]

@@rururururururrurururururur6038 No. Fuck culture itself. 😌 We should be mindless cogs in a corporate machine, making money for robot overlords with no culture at all.

[@cindylou2128]

‘You think you do, but you don’t.’ Telling us that we didn’t really want WoW Classic and then launch day was massive...

[@Labneh9102]

@@cindylou2128 also classic tbc is still enjoyable for people like me that have been taking it real slow and taking time off here and there. The older games were better and easier/better to leave and pick back up with no pressure. I feel the pressure cause of the need to stay up to date with retail so it's just my experience that makes me feel that way, but truthfully, you dont really need to rush jack shit in classic. It's fantastic. Classic vanilla was also like that

[@RS-vz5gc]

No he said "Don't you guys have phones" which is even worse and to make things even worse, ANOTHER Blizzard worker responded with "Yea do you guys not have phones" and then ANOTHER worker made still another comment about it. So it was not all just one guy who made a mistake. It was multiple Blizzard workers who said that. They never apologized for that statement. I wish I would have been the guy holding the mic who they said that to cuz I would have responded with "Dont you guys have programmers who aren't so lazy that they need to release their new games on mobile?" And WHY are almost all of their cinematics released now with terrible graphics? Warcraft 3 the original had better graphics in cinematics than they do now. In Legion they completely 100% copied Legacy of Kain: Defiance with some of their Demon Hunter cut scenes. They just did a reskin on already existing cinematics from LoK:D alpha's game play right after he goes down into the pit and glides down past the rocks. They got away with that so then they decided to copy the LoTR RoTK tower fall and got caught with that one. Bad graphics and stolen graphics is what this company does now.

[@tcatzmeow]

I love how Zack is standing up for his beliefs even against a company that makes a game he loves so much. WoW has been his bread and butter and he has the gonads to say what he really feels. As a female I thank him.

[@zettour.]

To be honest, he has disliked Blizzard for a while and most people have. This was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[@leoderiviere1685]

@@zettour. I mean, even if he was just chasing success ( which i dont believe, i think hes just nice ) he wouldnt have any benefit defending a company like blizzard right now

[@zettour.]

@@leoderiviere1685 But he has never defended them. He's been complaining about Blizzard for years. It's just really shitty that people try to spin this like it's some noble act to dislike a company for rape allegations when Asmongold has been disliking the company already for it's other shitty practices and everyone feels exactly like he does.

[@lasekmmmk7785]

Not only that blizzard is how he makes a majority, or did at least his money. Good on Zach for sticking with his values

[@chocoluver18]

Thank u for supporting blizz.. I believe its new environment for staffs.. give justice to deserving staffs

[@itsjezzer]

"It looks like Blizzard itself is going to have A Realm Reborn" is the best line

[@masterj2cool2000]

I miss that line, where is that at?

[@MrWilli1992]

@@masterj2cool2000 around 10:48 xD

[@coreydillon4330]

If they care enough about changing to actually do it. I don’t see them having the humility to do A Realm Reborn.

[@clarkkent7973]

I would be shocked if anything actually changed at Blizzard. There will be a lot of "talk" about changes, but zero actual change.

[@TheAxeliono]

It’s not like ff14 had a restart out of nowhere. The management (Yoshi-P and others) and the staff were unified in their passion, drive and willingness to make the game the best it can be. With there being no trust between employees and management (and honestly it doesn’t seem like anyone has a vision even if there was) there’s no way it could happen

[@EatMyVlogs]

I love how real Asmon is. The dude is literally a millionaire and as far as I'm aware still lives with his mom and plays wow in his attic room. If that isn't a gamer then idk what the fuck is.

[@tribopower]

for real, most of the other streamers who made it big just keep "gamer" has a tag while they have no more passion for games and they are only in to chase more of the bag even tough they are rich as fuck

[@Thelos90]

true spoken

[@chrisreid5209]

I somehow found a video of him ranking fast food places - and he gets mad and feels ripped off now that McDonald's (I think) charges 0.29 cents for a BBQ package lol.

[@zacharycampos1196]

Thats because it's a stupid business practice. Maybe 10 percent of customers ask for extra sauce. In my opinion charging 29 cents is not worth the customer going elsewhere next time because you wanna make an extra $5-10 per day in profit. Some places charge for them in some locations, but it's inconsistent. The vast majority do not, so most customer do not expect to have to pay if they request an extra sauce packet. The best way to get around this is just to go back up to the counter after you get your food and ask for sauce. They will just hand it to you usually.

[@ChrisBabaganoosh]

He uses his streaming money to care for his mom who isn't in the best of health. Respectable.

[@donk8961]

For a while I wondered why Zach was so popular, after watching it’s clearly because he can play the entertainer and also cut the act eloquently.

[@blegner85]

I was already thinking about cancelling my subscription. The lawsuit just cemented my decision. I love WoW and I have played since launch, but I’m done. I’ll be checking out New World on release but I hope Blizzard gets their shit together. Most importantly, I hope the victims get their justice and the accused are held accountable.

[@masterchiefy830]

sell you account brother as I did mine at least to get some money back.... glad I quit back then...

[@pineapples7449]

@@masterchiefy830 accounts are worth very little these days.

[@BGIANAKy]

Get rid of it. Unsub and delete launcher. It’s all shit.

[@balladsnowfox7714]

As much as it's your decision I'd also have some questions about New World since it's an Amazon product and we all know Bezos is a Lex Luthor wannabe

[@Ayarte]

I have still some attachments and huge amount of sentiments towards wow but i wont comming back as well, that was the last straw for me, i played on private servers since classic and cata on glob but time to move, soon lost ark came up and i cant wait for new adventure

[@slimthecatdad]

Blizzard - "The development of world of Warcraft has come to a halt because of this" Also Blizzard - "thank God, we finally have an excuse for the slow production of world of Warcraft!"

[@spacejunk2186]

"Now we have Covid AND the courts."

[@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox]

are they still taking sub money?

[@PlantTube.]

@@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox of corse

[@rajabeetlehorns4012]

Someone in Blizzard said: “let’s say *this* and it’ll turn the players against the case. They’ll demand we be left alone and allowed to get back to work.” Probably.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

@@rajabeetlehorns4012 Scummiest thing in the world.

[@Rembd]

An important note on the ARR remake: SE fired alll of their senior and directing staff on the game in addition to starting from scratch. This is the only thing that will save Blizzard at this point.

[@Reality.juiced]

Yup. As a female graphic designer I sure wouldn't want to work there and it used to be my dream job. They need to pay the CEO less and the people who actually work a little more. Making good games is how you can make money you don't need all that microtransaction garbage. The one good thing blizzard used to have going for it was the quality customer service. That's also missing.

[@criticscooby]

Nah that's not enough.

[@khanzy.]

@@Reality.juiced I can recall making two trial accounts back in 2007 when I was still a kid. One I didn't really play on, the other I got into the game properly, had my character capped at 20 and was ready to give the free month of game time to a particular person. I accidentally logged into the wrong account and subbed it. I communicated this to customer support and they basically told me that it was my own fault and they were refusing to help me. I proceeded to immediately cancel the sub and didn't touch retail again. Instead I spent the next few years playing on private servers. I only stuck around in MoP for like two months purely to do some arena PVP with someone. I couldn't support such bad customer service at the time. Just cause they occasionally do the hyped up roleplay introduction doesn't mean anything to me if they can't actually resolve tickets in an appropriate fashion.

[@robertlefeaux]

@@khanzy. you messed up and quit the game over ten bucks?

[@thisismychannel607]

Wow, that is a huge, risky move. I didnt know that about arr, glad it worked out for them though. Dont know if that could work with blizz

[@Hurricayne92]

It’s always fascinating to see how different “Asmongold” and Zach are.

[@watchmarley9268]

I bet i could get the tiles squeaky clean with that mop on your head

[@MrPhimo]

@@watchmarley9268 Imagine everything u can say in a situation like this is bullshit :D just shush

[@bipblingbip443]

@@MrPhimo bro it's hilarious cmon hahahah

[@watchmarley9268]

@@MrPhimo lol who are you?

[@kalathos0042]

dude, 100% agree, i like watching zach. not the biggest fan of Asmongold.

[@Thagesthoughts]

At this point, Activision Blizzard needs a purge at the executive level. Almost none of the executives have shown the integrity, empathy, or even enough of a fucking spine, to address the problems. New leadership is all but a necessity to bring in a new vision focused on the customers and to enforce a safe workspace for all employees, not just the one the execs went to college with or used to raid with.

[@25thturtle48]

People from gamedev background in leading positions were replaced with business school people long time ago . It's no surprise this behavior happens when management literally IS made of frat boys from rich families.

[@janelle4455]

They need a complete redo of the entire company. Replace all those assholes.

[@leadershipisaphilosophy]

Great comment

[@leadershipisaphilosophy]

Truth

[@josephflannery9015]

@@25thturtle48 most accurate shit anyone has said. It’s the business frat boys who took over not the nerdy programmers anymore.

[@alexandreb938]

They don’t even deserve a capital b in blizzard

[@BeefStakewithButterandGarlic]

That's because Activision fkem

[@BookOfWraiths]

Not even a b in general. Lizard

[@chrisrodriguez9556]

jokes on you that's just bad grammar

[@SmogginMog]

take the b, capitalize the "L" that they earned.

[@BookOfWraiths]

@@chrisrodriguez9556 bad grammar is necessary for the joke

[@araposkulo]

Judging by how Blizzard views "grey morality" I would say for them this is definitely an extremely "grey" situation.

[@jonnysilia5740]

and this is grey in the worst way possible, delusional defense of a toxic workplace fostered by corrupt upper management. and the solution is obviously the worse case scenario for upper management so they'll fight and lie as best as they can.

[@Deathwalker666666]

They are in the same situation that UBISOFT is currently but here is the thing UBISOFT had to bite the bullet and lay off those execs that were causing problems in which case one of those execs was not only accused of sexual offence but was also responsible for making UBISOFT whole game library stale because he did not believe that games in fantasy/medieval world sell well. And now with Blizzard considering how many people in the dev teams signed the petition you can bet that over half of workforce had enough of the higher execs doing nothing. Lets be perfectly clear i dont think its just WoW:shadowlands development is is being put on hold considering how many devs signed we might have take into consideration that Overwatch 2 and Diablo 4 are also put on hold. Will Blizzard change for the better to be absolutely honest they won't change at all considering their official statement is pure denial with that non-apology statement.

[@blinded6502]

gey

[@angamaitesangahyando685]

Supporting hysterical women in 2021 is the ultimate kcuc move. - Adûnâi

[@TheMistressMisery]

@@angamaitesangahyando685 Care to explain and elaborate on that statement?

[@TealWolf26]

10 years ago I wanted to work in the games industry. I'm glad I dodged that bullet. That's 10 years I got to enjoy games instead of 10 years hating the thing I'm passionate about because of the corporate culture. I don't want the sacrifices and hardships of these employees to be in vain.

[@cosmic1229]

I'm hoping the outcome of this stuff is a complete wipe and restart of blizzard as a company.

[@alucard8433]

Blizzard has been dead for years. Activision has just been moving the corpse around weekend at Bernies style.

[@benji2618]

Looks like it’s unavoidable

[@cosmic1229]

@@alucard8433 I agree but who knows maybe this was the wake up blizzard needed? Doubt it but it's happened before

[@27BleachFan]

@@cosmic1229 when has it happened before?

[@TSLlol]

It's not gonna be the same / good anyway, the OG devs and staff who actually passionately made the original games we love(d) Blizz so much for are long gone, Blizzard is officially dead. Hopefully Dreamhaven will bring that original goodness back, but for now we can only put faith in FFXIV and Square Enix

[@Noctis198]

Honestly Blizzard either needs to shut down or do a COMPLETE restructuring from top to bottom.

[@ravenna6543]

People really love WoW. I'd hate to see that taken away from those people. I think there needs to be a big restructure. Just admit their faults, then deliver the goods. It won't be easy but WoW is the most widely known MMO in the world. They will earn the respect of the whole gaming industry if they do it.

[@dialectiks]

*from the bottom to the top

[@akranyum5846]

might aswell go for the shut down. the only way to clear a garden from poisenous weeds is to burn it entirely and plant new seeds.

[@back_to_the_couch]

invoke topless monday and fat bottom friday

[@ZelosSama]

@@dialectiks top to bottom is the real expression, but also because the problems really comes from the top . the top should be restructured asap

[@saschaberger7201]

Can We Appreciate how He doenst even Force Us to Watch 1 fckn Add? Poggers Edit: thank you guys for 500 likes wow

[@abaiser9258]

Man had 100k viewers from 1 stream, doubt he needs any extra money rn

[@SubNorm4L]

@@abaiser9258 Many people don't need the money and still put a shit ton of ads

[@Dedric]

Do you not know ad blockers exist? You can make this possible for every KZbin video

[@marcinos32]

yea i appreciate it but there are people who don't use ad blocker?

[@Syllaren]

@@abaiser9258 yeah who ever wants thousands of dollars for free. I know plenty of people who would turn that kinda money down because they have enough. Appreciate him intentionally choosing not to monetize these kind of videos meant to be more personal. It would be very easy and very profitable to do otherwise.

[@stephenmitana]

“J.A.B. Is gonna have to wear a whole lot of pins.” He probably will to

[@williamchristensen7354]

Looks like he won't, considering he resigned today.

[@KeluRolen]

Everyone talking about how they'll introduce a store mount in 2 weeks. How about a store pet that's a dude is a blizzard shirt that humps your leg everywhere you go?

[@sapprine4534]

Reins of the J. Allen Broke

[@markosusa5823]

Maybe women tits jumping around as a store pet

[@dasitmane7590]

@@markosusa5823 next patch: all succubuses/light dressed femoids removed from the game

[@lachoneu2]

Please make this happen.

[@TheVipter]

"The only company that can kill WoW is blizzard" -Asmon *And so they did*

[@Antyss08]

It doesnt matter what blizzard does to wow since u fools keep it alive. Wow wasnt dead, its not dead and will not die. Its more a meme line

[@Nasty_Riffs]

Everyone is still playing wow. Everyone in my guild anyways..and on my friends list... will all blow over people will get canned and new ones rehired, they will pay out and everything will go back to normal...

[@Krisso22]

Totalbiscuit said this too, the only wow killer is wow itself

[@NPC-fg6up]

We have 3 raid groups, 80 active raiders in the guild and 0 people have quit the game, it has been over blown.

[@araposkulo]

@@Krisso22 It's a wide-spread idea ever since TBC (or at least that's when I started playing). It just became more known the more critics the game got and the more disgruntled the playerbase became with WoW and Blizz

[@krucible9369]

It doesn’t help that the game has been deteriorating for years. Now it makes so much sense why patches and expansions have been taking much longer than normal. How can a great game be made if this garbage work environment is allowed to take place? I feel slighted for paying a sub for 10+ years.

[@trippasnippa119]

you basically said what he said in the video

[@chad3085]

Makes sense why so many people have been jumping ship b/c they all knew of the shit going on and the lawsuit that was being built against the company.

[@djohnsveress6616]

Obviously, it's not that simple, but think about it.. 10 thousand suddenly drops their sub, you think those wow employees are gonna be be paid the same in the next 10 or so month? Don't dismantle the company, that ain't the solution.. Once again, don't get me wrong, not saying it's how it's supposed to be in the first place, but the company will pull those employees with themselves if an entire group of players leave em in the dirt.. But that's just my dumb logic, I'm probably wrong. They might be on a fixated contract, i don't fckn know.

[@novinnovations4026]

@@djohnsveress6616 "vote with your wallet" is how I feel about this. It's all you can do. If your definition of "dismantle the company" equates to deciding to spend your money elsewhere because of this, I think we disagree.

[@Jabarri74]

@@djohnsveress6616 afaik they are paid by bonuses and due to the mass player migration anyway I think anyone with a decent CV is long gone already

[@Mordring]

Cynically taking advantage of people's passion and good will as granted only to mistreat, abuse, underpay and even sexually assault them, cause "they love this job too much to oppose" is outright EVIL. No ifs, no buts, not howevers.

[@Bobogdan258]

It's always really sad to see these young people finally getting their dream jobs at game-dev, Hollywood, Tesla and then get out 2 years later scarred, used and abused because it's not like it would stop being a dream job for a lot of other people.

[@mouricecheeks5215]

idk, even thinking about wow makes me feel a bit guilty. any joy i have of playing blizzard games is forever tainted knowing what i know now. really sad.

[@johnhague3372]

Enjoying the work when it came at the expense of the blood of the workers is far harder than enjoying something made with passion.

[@IngeniousNinja]

I've had this since the Bitzchung stuff. I managed it by giving Blizzard 0 money for a while but still burnt out. Now I can't even look at the games without feeling like shit.

[@Mandrarine]

@S P Care to elaborate or you just wanna be rude for no reason?

[@fdfischer]

Turns out the WoW killer was Blizzard itself!

[@trolldrool]

WoW killed itself years ago. The carcass is just taking a while to decompose.

[@fvcklunacy]

@@trolldrool na blizzard

[@anthonydominguez4744]

This saying is obvious and redundant, we all know and it doesn’t hit the same when people are declaring it as if it’s something new or clever .

[@chechar3dg]

It has always been

[@PopADoseYo]

@@fvcklunacy na

[@HiIThinkImReal]

Wish they'd do Blizzard: Classic.

[@gorg9928]

I hope so the good old Blizzard

[@ZivineYT]

You think you do, but you don’t

[@Vaeltis]

Even vanilla Blizzard had issues, something like this doesn't just happen overnight, this was a culture that was deeply rooted in the history of the company, even when Mike morhaime was still around and yet he didn't do anything about it.

[@Sorak311]

THey have.. Dreamhaven and Frost Giant Studios is the real new classic blizzard

[@ladycarmillasanguina]

@@Vaeltis Things weren’t perfect with MM sure, but this isn’t something one person can resolve. If it’s a culture instead of one or two people, then that requires something bigger and more collective, if you get what I’m saying. Regardless of the position, a culture like this is as you said, “deeply rooted”.

[@MephistoGaming-zx3qh]

You can just see the hurt, betrayal, and sadness written on Zack's face and in his voice. I feel a lot for him having to go through this and for everyone who has been such big Blizzard fans throughout the years, myself included, having to deal with all of this happening.

[@Khalirei]

The sooner everyone stops paying the sub, the sooner they will start scrambling to restructure the company. Remember: your opinion doesn't mean shit to them: The only thing they listen to is your wallet.

[@THBbon]

exactly. BOYCOTT. Play FF14

[@ShoreVietam]

True, they will change as little as necessary unless forced to via money (loss) - and they need to change a lot to have a realm reborn, so it has to hurt them. Even if this bad for many employees, but continuing does not improve their work conditions either.

[@ivy5725]

It is so hard for me to let go of WoW. I've been playing since I was 6 in early TBC and always used it to escape my shitty reality.

[@MorfsPrower]

Welcome to the boycott club, friends. Been in here since they killed Swingin' Ape for WoW.

[@jsbfkdls]

@@ivy5725 Just take a break for a bit, try ffxiv or some other game. I think the important part right now is to show that this is unacceptable and YOU as players wont support a company like that. Instead of trying to not look at the problem, be part of the solution and just stop playing for like a month or two. You dont have to completely give up on the game, just take a break.

[@GravityTrash]

The leak was clear about how there's a Predator catching Prey culture that's in Blizzard now I didnt know they meant it literally

[@66.6howl]

What leak?

[@monkieassasin]

@@66.6howl There was a massive leak from a blizzard employee a couple of weeks on reddit, speaking anonymously about the current thinking and state of mind in blizzard and its employees.

[@charless2450]

"J Allen Brack's going to have to wear a whole lot of pins whenever he talks about this one." Awesome line, and sadly true; Blizzard keeps making these meaningless gestures whenever they get in trouble.

[@boehan605]

i dont get it what does it mean

[@J-manli]

@@boehan605 Brack wore Pride Month Pins as a “silent sign of support” for the LGBT community. But by n large, the company ain’t doing crap to actually support the community, all they really say is “hey gay people buy out stuff cause being gay is profitable I mean cool.”

[@J-manli]

@Rich Smith There’s certainly a lot of LGBT+ gamers out there, but like with many things in the US, it’s more about the image than the truth. Many corporations turn on the rainbow lights during pride month, yet lobby for politicians who tend to be anti LGBT+ because they prioritize deregulation and tax breaks than human rights.

[@john-fi2ni]

@@J-manli I don't like when companies posture to the LGBT+ community because it's Fake. They only do it for profit. I tell you what though the first company to Have a pride flag/logo in their middle east locations outside of isreal will have my full support. They don't show solidarity when it counts. They ban politics but where a bunch of LGBT pins and ban talks of freedom for hong kong people.

[@hanzohattori9576]

@@J-manli also, it was a deflection away from the blitzchung issue that they handled very badly.

[@Kryptox69]

If the work has come to a halt, perhaps the fee on subscriptions should too. lol.

[@superBAkid]

At this point the subscriptions for wow are paying for lawyer fees. Lmao

[@CreativeUsernameEh]

@@stevenbrock528 ESO doesn't require a Sub and it's only gotten better since going that way. Blizzard keeps the sub because they know they have enough people hooked they can demand a sub.

[@Ybw420]

"you feel betrayed" exactly brother, thats exactly how we feel.

[@xsilverdicex]

No we don’t. Sexual harassment happens at the factory that makes your toaster and car also, you just don’t care about that because they don’t have the huge following blizzard has.

[@thedude3288]

not betrayed enough to stop advertising their stuff to the thousands of people that follow you apparently.

[@f.r8580]

Blizzard in prison: Don't you guys have phones? Inmates: No.

[@ArmageddonEvil]

But they do have game consoles. lol

[@palladiamorsdeus]

Inmates: Isn't that your soap on the shower floor?

[@francodelalcazar3669]

seems like you dont know Cody

[@luchts4547]

its not hard to get a phone in prison

[@trustfire]

looool

[@noble61483]

I agree... I've never known a company that has so much distain for their customers

[@sadmiqoxiv]

BuT yOu DoNt kNoW wHaT yOu WaNt Also don't you have phones?

[@billsmith30]

I'd say EA for sure, and to a lesser extent, Respawn

[@shinberries]

As someone who works in game industry and stumbled on your stream when you started FFXIV, I've grown to respect the amount of research you do in everything you decide to do or talk about. I'm grateful for you to spread the word about this issue to the people who probably don't have as much background information on this as others. I truly hope Blizzard starts taking these things seriously and fix these issues (harassment, overworking, etc.) from the roots.

[@amatthew1231]

I'm done with Blizzard, there are obviously some serious degenerates running the company and their games have become quite trash from it. Not a serious loss, some better younger company will come up and take Blizzards place, as always, hope their games are better.

[@thedude3288]

you got more of a spine than this dude. good for you.

[@louievazquez744]

Its pretty true, I cant imagine working in these conditions give out the best game for us as customers. We can't support this at all honestly.

[@Lastninjaxoxoxoxox]

Agreed, I don't really understand the obsession with blizzard. Just play another companies games that arent trash and doesn't treat their employees like trash.

[@Ne3zyTV]

go play monster hunter world I DLed it last week I'm at 50 hours in already

[@NullReferenceException]

The problem is as soon as these fantastic new companies come up and start making serious money, their destined to the same fate as blizzard, it always happens, money corrupts. What's the solution?

[@tolgayatamturk2304]

When your most loyal fans compare you to EA... Well at least you have phones Blizzard 🤣

[@clayton_sneath6559]

"Is this an out of season April fools joke?"

[@Westrait]

At least you have buttplugs

[@jasonmatthews52]

While EA may be heavy anti-consumer, they at least have a reputation for treating their developers decently well. Activision seems to be pure evil.

[@sergelysak]

Off topic: Zack, get the finger looked at. It looks swollen, you don't want to have it turn into the toxic management of Blizzard of your body.

[@MacDaniboi]

Maybe it's just a blizzter.

[@CheeseCakeGamer099]

@@MacDaniboi Best comment.

[@bisterkding9249]

It's swollen but doesn't look inflamed. Might be the joint itself.

[@tw629108]

@@bisterkding9249 inflamed /inˈflāmd/ adjective adjective: inflamed 1. (of strong feelings) provoked or intensified. "inflamed passions overrode reasoning" 2. (of a part of the body) red or swollen as a result of inflammation.

[@Zer-re4mu]

What did he do to his finger? And is there a video of it happening?

[@andromedanightshade522]

I feel like you are a voice for us "little people", maybe not intentionally but at any rate the way you spoke on this matter echoed a lot of thoughts that me and my friends are having. I have not played wow in about 2 weeks now and I have mixed emotions about playing because a lot of what is happening definitely tainted a lot of my happy memories playing blizzard games. I guess we all have to wait and see what happens but they have a lot of work to do. Thank you for speaking so openly and honest about how you feel on the situation.

[@b3z04r]

"Homeless guy spits some truth."

[@CunkGungler]

truly a modern diogenes

[@JustJebei]

Zack I'm not going to lie, when I first heard about you and noticing your content months before you started ffxiv I didn't like you at all. I didn't realize that was a character and that you weren't genuinely an asshole. Since then though I've seen your true character, you're an amazing guy that really cares about the people around you. You're respect towards women and people in general is admirable, I know you'll keep up the good work man a lot of people here love you.

[@christopherbronson3275]

I agree, I'm not an Asmond fan. But Zack? Zack is good people

[@RavarSeer]

He hates these comments lol

[@christopherbronson3275]

@@RavarSeer of course lol

[@SeeAndDreamify]

Asmongold isn't really a character. He just sort of has two different modes. I don't think the other mode is an asshole, just a bit blunt and unashamed about what he likes.

[@siutsun]

You guys mixup so many thing into one…

[@BlueVansCapofAwesome]

Hey Zack, I just wanted to say thank you for being a breath of fresh air on this platform. You're real, true to yourself, intelligent and ofcourse foremost just a really great, funny entertainer. I've really gotten a lot of insight about myself from your talks with Dr.K. A lot. I'm 25, and have always called myself lazy. Still am. But now in the process of getting a diagnosis for ADHD, which would explain so, so much. You've really resonated a lot with me. So thank you. :)

[@Dreadwaffle7]

You know it's serious when he doesn't start off the video with "Sup boys".

[@clay2889]

Man this breaks my heart. You can see Zack is genuinely sad about blizzard's downfall

[@aztex6981]

Well who isn't Blizzard was by gamers for gamers. You've seen the down spiraling off a company and game/s that is defining many of us, that played and more or less lived inside these games most of our lives. It's breaking my hearth that these stories that has come forth has happend.

[@Deleralia]

Honestly I am too... I started with warcraft playing wow in 04. This game has been my whole life and if wow falls I don't know what I'll do. Sure the game isn't as good as it once was, but I will always hold onto those old memories.

[@rRekko]

Who wouldn't? i was sad too whenever Bethesda announced Fallout 76, i was sad when WoW sucked in BFA (i played many other games during WoD so i didn't get to play and complain about that x-pack)... i was also sad when Subnautica devs bent the knee to the twitter angry mob because their audio designer didn't like feminist politics creeping into gaming, so they kicked him and got some sjw writers to change the story, and swap their cool and unique characters to sjw race stereotpes and even swap voice actors to fit those american stereotypes for black and white people. Gaming sucks nowadays, only indies remain somewhat good, since the west is all about feminist politics, korean games turned into freemium and outright pay to rekt, and even japanese games have become uninspired copy paste of whatever game broke the current meta, except for the big brands. Man... the japanese have really gone downhill, not only gaming but anime, manga and their content creators have just went full follow whatever trend people like.

[@PureGaming1845]

@@rRekko Japanese anime/manga have been massive what? It's getting more popular. Every season if not every year there has been massive a anime being incredibly good. This is not even counting the movies coming out for next year. Especially DBS super hero which was just announced 2 days ago. Sorry bud but you're wrong on the anime front. It's never been better and it's starting to out do movies in the west....

[@xXxBlackHydra]

I think everyone is slowly getting upset with blizzard, I do not want to bash blizzard. Blizzard is my entire childhood, it was my teenage years it was everything to me and still is. And I find it difficult to quit too cause i made so many friends here... But this shit... It is conflicting for me.

[@Motavi79]

Your comments hit me hard man. Its exactly how I feel about them. I've been gaming over 30 years and nothing has gotten to me this bad. Thank you for sharing.

[@frankiecartagena2451]

I’d been on a long break from WoW as shadowlands didn’t really blow me away…. However, after this I’m not inclined to come back at all sadly. Respect your thoughts and opinions on this and completely agree with you.

[@vexial12]

Play ff14

[@vexial12]

@L M cringe

[@connordutton674]

Personally even though this is a bad topic, i really perfer this side of you than your Asmongold persona.

[@ecanus-3605]

Second that.

[@bboyValentis]

I always felt like Asmon and Zack are the same... No persona and all that... And that Asmon ist just Zack pissed off after dealing with his chat for x hours

[@jinxshaddix]

Agree.

[@garethlee6875]

In these videos I feel we see Zack. His passion, motivations, vulnerabilities and emotions. I like the streamer Asmongold, he is entertaining, but I prefer Zack the person.

[@kylepage7263]

thats what this whole page is about this is his zack page he likes to keep his personality and his real life self separate, the person you are seeing on this channel will 100% always be zack

[@SubTonic]

Can I just say...Zack is really, really good at speaking. Dude has good vocabulary, very rarely "uhhs or "umms" or has awkward pauses. All his experience bantering with his chat has made him a smooth ass speaker.

[@TheHomelessNinja]

Yeah a lot of the silliness of the stream and memes I think makes people forget how smart he actually is.

[@BIGSWOLEXL]

@@TheHomelessNinja ^^^^

[@donaldsmith1563]

Id vote for him for president.

[@humblegamer7876]

Or most of you people can't fucking talk and are amazed someone still can

[@Mtvee82]

Tag checks out

[@jonathanminahan2377]

as terrible as the situation is this made me find a game that I love even more than WoW. I am happy that there was a huge shift to FFXIV, a game that deserves the attention and praise it is getting

[@tolgayatamturk2304]

Me too man, I think I never had so much fun in a game ever

[@johnnyheast2615]

I wish i could say the same....the graphic looks shit, the ui looks like an asia mmorpg from 2005, icant Play this shit weeb game 😂 Its better for me to dont play than playing this 2 shit games rn

[@jonathanminahan2377]

@@johnnyheast2615 nice

[@koldaric9676]

@@johnnyheast2615 I'm glad someone like you doesn't play FFXIV. Try spending your time learning English instead perhaps.

[@wuaaawuaaaa]

@@johnnyheast2615 same! love for warcraft universe, fuck blizzard tho

[@janakipejov3667]

He's so right, my memories are tainted.

[@ovinophile]

The worst is part is these people were around from the start. You can’t even say that old Blizzard was innocent.

[@ovinophile]

@@stevenbrock528 Agreed, for sure. Having the game at its lowest point makes a huge difference in the reaction.

[@MK_2023.]

This is the same company that was under paying its staff, to the point that some of them had to sleep and live in their cars in the car park. I hope they crumble into nothing.

[@Humstuck]

Blizzard has been predatory for years from what i hear, hiring fans with glitter in their eyes for under what they should get. Many of their employees are underpaid I bet.

[@joesuh7492]

@Rich Smith pretty much any game industries all over the world.

[@siutsun]

This is most giant company does , the question is why still have so many ppl want to get into those company and work for them , the value is their resume will be impressed when they are seeking another job.

[@mirage1182]

@@siutsun It's sad but they are like any other disgusting big company in the end. These shit predatory wages were under the days of Morhaime too.

[@Zakjuh]

@Rich Smith More like YAY Blizzard or YAY AAA. And you forgot, in this specific case: sexually and verbally harassed, sometimes to the point of suicide. I used to want to work at Blizzard, now I wouldn't send my worst enemy there.

[@Kujamon]

Hair is growing back after stopping playing wow

[@Vanished584]

hes no longer playing a game thats giving him stress. FF isnt challenging nor is it engaging. Its just "story, good. PRetty place and characters. I think I will UwU"

[@GrimHeaperThe]

@@Vanished584 The most challenging part about WoW was the grind.

[@melisandre6324]

@@Vanished584 As if wow was challenging. As if games must be stressful to be challenging. I havent watched any of the streams, but it certainly seems like FF is engaging to a lot of people given the positive reaction towards him playing it.

[@Moaningbird]

@@melisandre6324 Wow is challenging though. You've done with mythic raiding, 2k4 MMR already ?

[@Vanished584]

@@melisandre6324 WoW was unorinically fun in its own way, when you played around with friends it did give you that sence of success and progession. It wasnt really the game that made it fun, it was the social interactions and interesting people you find in the game. I went back to Asmon's stream only a few days back and people were literally slamming Asmon for skipping cutscenes, skipping dialogue and just blurting out random advice in the chat just to see if Asmon would do it. I know this was also something heavily present in WoW's timeline frequently, but not in my life have I seen asmon switch on Sub-mode just becuase of that. I dont know honestly, FF14 isnt my problem anymore, looking for better MMOs is. Im done with it, as I can see were past the honeymoon stage and into the decline stage.

[@Nevict]

When Zack is not distracted by all the stuff the chat writes, his speech improves. EDIT: I am not saying that he never makes valid points, I am saying that he sounds more... Sensible? Collected? Coherent? I can't quite put it into words.

[@louissecula5552]

He’s always pretty articulate ngl

[@hannessteffenhagen61]

He's not in character for the raw videos and streams. Most of the time he's trying to appear super high energy and messing up words and speech on purpose because it's just more entertaining that way, he's obviously not gonna do that when he's trying to say something serious.

[@Corrupted]

His speech has always been great, what are you talking about?

[@tokenparade7463]

'Asmongold' is an extreme caricature.

[@Powerpuffsama]

Meanwhile GW2 be like "we fired the deviants here's an expansion"

[@snakebebop]

Yeah can't wait for their third expansion 5 year's after the second one

[@Powerpuffsama]

@@snakebebop My guy its in February lol

[@JeffandBCProductions]

Always good to hear your honest thoughts, Zack. Appreciate the discussion!

[@aliyahdel2721]

Thank you for fighting for us Asmon. It made me so emotional to see you fighting for us on ur live stream (against all the mean chat ppl). Love you. Brings tears to my eyes xx

[@Hyde472]

I wanna know how someone stays so based in reality when they are as famous and as wealthy as asmon. Absolutely deserves his notoriety. Absolutely deserves the money he makes. I don't even play WoW I just watch him on youtube and I honestly feel like I could view him as a friend and if I knew him IRL rather than from KZbin that we would be friends. It just says a lot that I don't play and have never played WoW or FF14 and I still enjoy and value his content.

[@itz_premium]

Ive always said this about Zack. All the shit people give him sometimes I feel goes a little overboard. Yeah he is abrasive and jovial and a little child like sometimes... But were watching a dude play video games.. What do people expect? Its supposed to be fun. Zacks philosophy and his views on issues have been fairly consistent over the years from my recollection. For all his "downfalls" as some might say.. I agree, I like to think Zack would make a great friend irl.

[@nordiclania]

Agreed. Feels like Zack is the kind of friend a lot of us want.

[@nickuva6508]

Go outside and touch grass

[@NotGoingCrazy]

Nobody deserves the amount of money this man earns.

[@pocnit]

@Amadeus Luciiann Fuck the soul, give me the money.

[@pr0n3]

Well said and very thoughtful Zack.

[@47battles]

“Blizzards gonna have a realm reborn” lmaooooooooooo

[@aizo85]

Dreamhaven?

[@joshstraub6972]

Kappa

[@jserv9421]

@@aizo85 not a chance activion would sell..morhaime wouldnt have enough $$$ to buy back what he sold..i love how ppl prop him up but he probabely knew what was going on..who knows how long this was happening

[@stumblinzz]

No. No it definitely fuckin will not. FWIW any big company operates like a small government, with teams turning into fiefdoms trying to best protect their mote of responsibilities and justify their high paychecks. Not only is sexual harassment a big deal, but even if you’re heavily skilled on the tech end, whether game implementation or programming - you have assholes in the form of teammates that are omnipresent too. Stuff like oldsplaining where older teammates who couldn’t keep up try to tell you something and can’t even realize you’re already doing whatever design pattern they’re telling you about because they didn’t bother to read code. Could be internal politics. I’ve seen managers manipulate multi million dollar deals and other ends of the company take $10,000 dinners before agreeing to a new contract. I’ve been on both ends of it too. Want to talk about the fucking depressive state of the industry as a whole? It’s not just blizzard. Any place where it’s a big company with technical wizards or a creative end.

[@william3791]

it could happen, but not the same results as what we want, remember activision is the one who will build the new generation. they gonna change the crew, probably. will it be a pro consumer crew?? no chance while activision holding the reins

[@LeystTV]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They need to take this more serious and fire people who needs to be fired. It’s disgusting.

[@JDmix123]

How is your channel not official?

[@fdfischer]

@@JDmix123 same thought here

[@SMILE53335]

I hope they will finally fire the ones who write the story of WoW nowadays.

[@NostraDavid2]

That would include Bobby himself (that needs to be fired), J Allen Brack, Ion Hazzikostas and anyone else with Producer or Director in their title.

[@Scopatone]

I work for a major publisher/Dev (think EA, Ubisoft, Epic, Activision. A company of that size) and issues like this are rampant throughout the industry even at the lowest levels of player support. We've regularly had harassment meetings over the past 6 months about this and other related things. Always held by a 3rd party company with no management present thankfully, but without fail in every meeting at least 1 female employee shares a story of something that happened to her at work and cries. Every time. Some go back years, some go back 6 months ago at our Christmas party. And yes, some on the job work parties have had alcohol served without the 1 per person limit being enforced. Employees have been fired over adding free games to their personal accounts and friends accounts, fired for working off the clock, and fired for not meeting productivity standards, people (including me) held back from promotions for not sucking up to the company and caring "too much" about my team over metrics, yet I've never once in 3 years heard of anyone being fired over misconduct like this despite hearing a crying woman explain her abuse once every 2 months in a harassment meeting and being told by that woman that her abuser still works there after having been reported already. As a guy, there are some other really cool guys at work that don't give off bad vibes but then all of sudden stop showing up and people are silent when you ask and you wonder why. It doesn't matter how fun people are or how little you suspect someone, it can ALWAYS be someone you like and you have to confront that and not protect them. It took almost 2 years before any of this harassment appeared on my radar because when 5 guys are harassing you, why would you confide in guy 6? It just creates an environment where people are afraid to even come forward with their experiences because they have to assume the worst in people and fear for their livelihoods if they do decide to say something. It's easier to "suck it up" than it is to possibly have a firing on your record and not be able to pay your bills for who knows how long. A lot of people don't understand why victims can't "just quit" or "Say something". This industry does not play nice with confronting authority figures and the victim almost always loses unless it becomes public like this. I used to dream of working in the games industry, and it still is a dream in many ways, but the more that time goes on the more I want to hide my occupation from people who know anything about the industry.

[@TurboExit]

I just want to say how much respect and appreciation I have for Zack. Especially now, after standing up for other people like that. I wish more people would be so empathetic and courageous. /salute

[@trundenthebad]

When are companies realize that people work so much better being treated like people and not replaceable gears in a grand machine? The attitude of your employees greatly dictates the work and passion they put forward. It hurts my heart how much the gaming industry has become just another corporate suit and tie ass hats who only care about money. The days of nerds creating games that they think are cool are over, and it just sucks man. Also hearts out to the people who were effected by the evil people at blizzard.

[@ZapatosVibes]

Thankfully, there's still a lot of amazing indie games. Ashes of Creation dev team also looks really poggers, guess time will tell if they deliver on that awesome vision and team spirit.

[@catzor4795]

@@ZapatosVibes Nope.

[@Lerppasd7]

Those days are definitely not over man. There are hundreds of great indie (and bigger) games out there, for example Valheim or DoS 2 to just name couple. FFXIV is also a huge game with a passionate team behind it. Those are all games created by cool nerds, and the list goes on an on. Just because there are a few rotten corporations it doesn't mean the whole industry is ruined.

[@Dookie6891]

This is not novel or unique to the gaming industry. Take any managerial/executive person at your workplace and ask them about their goals and motives for their employees. Most of the time they're going to give you a genuinely relatable answer. They want what's best for you...because it's a path of least resistance, and obviously just a moral choice as a human being. The crux being that life will never allow that to happen, by way of individuals that love to exercise their free will. And as people do so, you get this wonderful feedback loop of good folks who make bad decisions in trying to keep the status quo, trickling down to their underlings, and back around again.

[@jimbology7617]

There'd be a lot more employee ownership or partial ownership of companies if companies understood this concept. Just imagine the quality AND quantity of the work being put out if the people working on it had a bigger stake in the company's success than just "good job team!"

[@shmem8430]

People always say that Cr1tikal is the last “real” KZbinr or “real” streamer, but I believe that Asmon is just as real and just as straight up and out there, I have tons of respect for him talking about this as much as he has

[@MrGameonthis]

I mean if you live in one corner of the internet maybe. Tons of “real” content creators out there.

[@shmem8430]

@@MrGameonthis I mean yeah, I’ve always had that opinion on Asmon, of course, but everyone says Charlie is the last “real” content creator out there, which obviously isn’t true but still

[@jeffreyishmael5687]

I've been pretty adamant against moistcritical because of his jaded views when it comes to self-improvement channels. Yea some of it is bullshit, but a lot of the stuff does help a lot of people(speaking of Jose Zuniga, Alex Costa, Alpha M, etc). But I saw critical got into FFXIV so I gave him a chance, and now he's one of my favorites too.

[@hamsandwich3893]

I got turned off when he called a KZbin a pedo with absolutely no proof to millions of people which ruined his life because he sent like 50 people to type in his chat

[@SavageGameHawk]

Who? Rofl. Never heard of him.

[@randomshow1901]

Feels even worse knowing how much money I have given this company in the last 10 years and beyond. Money that obviously went into people pockets that don't care about the game or the company.

[@thoticcusprime9309]

lmao. I gave them none

[@timothyblazer1749]

I left wow when they had obviously abandoned Starcraft. I came in with Starcraft and Diablo..never played Warcraft. My friends and I did level and game design..at that time there were many enthusiasts. Blizzard left Starcraft like a red headed step child, and none of us ever got over that. We tried to create new game play, which worked well. We even did our own voice acting. But after a couple of years it became obvious that it wasn't going anywhere with Blizzard, so we all just quit. We were the few long time MMO players that never hopped on the WoW train. We played DAoC into the ground, Ultima, and others. We saw WoW as a step backwards, as the story seemed staid and simple, and the gameplay experience was too restrictive. WoW succeeded initially because of it's art, not is story. It was the first truly mass market MMO. That's why we, lifetime OG gamers, didn't enjoy it. I play it now, here and there. But the creativity behind it was never that great. It was just decent, and the art was great, the mechanics were addictive, and so it got traction. WoW has never been great. It has been successful in the marketplace, but it's never been great. What they did was capture enough young players who didn't know better, gut then hooked and identified with it and profited. They are Coca Cola, and have never been a fine wine. That's fine. But they were never great. It was the players that made it great. The player base was so invested, playing the game was great. I was never drawn in by this because I already had years of MMO and tabletop. But that's what happened. Don't put Blizzard up on a pedestal. They were lucky. It was YOU that made the game great.

[@philvess6376]

They lost me some time ago when they said "Dont you guys have phones??!". Lots of passionate people came from all over the place. Taking vacation time and/or spending money to be at Blizcon, celebrating their love for the games (mostly PC) and being told that?

[@XMansive]

To be fair, that was just one guy fucking up at trying to deescalate the audience’s anger. The dude looked very nervous on stage; it was a panic response. If it was a carefully crafted comment in text instead then that’s what would’ve pissed me off to the edge of space.

[@oldetimes]

4:00 "J Allen Brack is going to have to wear a whole lot of pins whenever he talks about this one" OMEGALUL

[@andrzejkulakowski]

wasn't it pants and not pins? As to pants for different role and responsibility :) I've heard that english natives use to say that somebody wears a hat for a certain role or responsibility, so I guess US ppl use pants instead of hats for the same notion?

[@oldetimes]

@@andrzejkulakowski No he said Pins. He's referring to the pins that he would wear during Blizzcons on his shirt. The Last Blizzcon he was wearing a rainbow type pin to represent the LGBTQ community. Well what asmon is saying here is he will need to wear a whole lot of pins for the next blizzcon or open event they do that he's a part of

[@andrzejkulakowski]

@@oldetimes ohh that makes a whole lot of sense now and made me cracked as well 😅 thanks for the explanation 👍

[@qunt100]

@@oldetimes Yah also the shirt he had on had the blizzard logo in a rainbow color scheme. While the gestures of inclusivity are nice, i feel it leads to stereotyping. From my perspective, let's say you love the rain. And you love rainbows. Guess what happens when a bunch of people see you in these types of things? They automatically assume you are gay or trans or whatever. Or that you are a LGBT activist of some kind. I feel like we should be free to be ourselves, without people assuming who we are just because of a few symbols. I mean, you can like rainbows and rain and not be gay. Keep in mind, not everyone enforces the stereotype, but i feel enough people do, and it is a shame. Regardless of who we are or who we work for, or where we go, we should always be included. I am pretty apathetic about everything. I do not give a shit who you are. As long as your core values are true, you are a nice person, etc. We just have to many dick heads around who still embrace the days of oldschool, where everyone who was different were bad. It is unfortunate and a shame to me that this is how society operates. We should not have a bunch of racists and mysogynists running the world. But i also do not feel we should have people stereotyping everyone and everything all the time. It is just as bad.

[@ecMonify]

@@qunt100 man you're putting a lot of thought into making sure you're not perceived as gay. just wear a damn rainbow if you want to, nobody actually cares in the real world. i had a hat full of rainbows; never once did i think "oh my, what if somebody thinks i'm gay for wearing this hat!? i should stop wearing it immedietaly!". people don't think that way. just relax and be yourself :P

[@GregoryPellegrin]

The management team doesnt care because their bonus is not based on how wealthy are the employees

[@murphybeats8695]

After all these years of hearing about new games and the “WoW killer” turns out it’s blizzard itself lol

[@CaptainBloodsail]

And Final fantasy 14 online

[@Ollybollyk]

@@CaptainBloodsail Well, not really. FFXIV is definitely crushing WoW in terms of competition, but that's right now, Blizzard just needs to deliver a well received expansion to get back on top, which they've shown multiple times they can do (even now, possibly). What Blizzard is going through right now though could affect the future of WoW permanently. Especially considering this could lead to a lot of crucial devs leaving, and devs in the future being much less likely to join Blizzard, greatly reducing the quality of their product.

[@lightflo]

Well how ppl see that only now ? Remember of the "scandal" ten years ago, Bobby Kotick who wants to do games in a way to "destroy it" or when he said "devs are easy to manipulate and more efficient when they are depressed".

[@factuallyincorrectandbiase9790]

@@Ollybollyk if you think a good expansion will come out by blizzard oh boy. Considering they make their games shit faced drunk lmao.

[@xeronylloyd21]

@@CaptainBloodsail if FF14 was meant to be a WoW killer it would have done it ages ago. Do not compare momentary success to overall success.