Alright folks, just to keep things civil, lets keep the discussion of ongoing protests here off limits. There are plenty of places on the internet to discuss them, this is a board game review. And while i get the topic is highly political, i'd rather not focus on the politics of today, today. Cheers all, stay safe and play nice
@danielbrooks77642 жыл бұрын
Having played this game for analysis purposes, I concluded that it was a propaganda game deliberately created to "demonstrate" that non-violent protest is insufficient to create social change without a violent arm. The game does this by punishing you for not being violent. I've read the interview of the designers on an anarcho-communist online magazine. They were setting out with this game to argue political violence is justified. For what it's worth.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
That's the games stated intent. It's on the box and not really anything that needed discovering. The first edition even shipped with a history book as well. But without violence we wouldn't have things like democracy, labour rights, voting for women, no slavery etc etc. The idea that only peaceful means achieve anything is a very modern fiction. No french or American revolutions, no suffrage movement, none of that. Violence is, and likely always will be, used to extend political ideas.
@michaelmueller2602 жыл бұрын
Fair, but people should at least be made aware of what the game is and who the creators are. Not everyone has seen the box or read up on the creators.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
I state it in the video Michael, that it is a politically motivated game with a clear agenda. It's not exactly something being hidden or not mentioned. I just don't want my comments full of Q weirdness and other junk
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
@@Nosferatu9981 Missing the point, plus you've never commented on the channel before so I'm looking at your comment side-eyed. Saying i don't want my comments full of q Junk doesn't equal a statement that everyone who doesn't like the game is Q. That's a false argument. I'm just weary of those folk turning up with their ridiculous points of view. The Berkut thought they were supporting Law and Order in 2014 as well. Heck, you look at all the examples of civil disorder where the police are on the wrong side of history, and its always Law and Order that's championed, even when the regime is oppressive. So that's not exactly a strong position. I'll cite our very own Springbok tour protests in 1981, where the cops were 100% on the side of supporting Apartheid in South Africa, while championing Law and Order. It's not a strong argument.
@hisnard2 жыл бұрын
Initially learned about the 2nd edition from your channel, bought it, did not regret it at all, and it solidified my opinions about the high quality of your reviews. And now I learned, from your channel again, about the 3rd edition. Backed the upgrade kit. Thanks!
@TheEmmaHouli2 жыл бұрын
After hearing you talk about this game for years I finally backed it this week!
@erobbins16532 жыл бұрын
Backed this morning. Been waiting for it since you first planted the seed in my brain! Thanks again!
@guenobolanosdehoyos71312 жыл бұрын
I just got my copy and I'm really excited to try it. Thanks already for the recommendation and congratulations for the channel!
@wakeupjake2 жыл бұрын
I have been searching for a 2nd edition for what feels like forever since you originally mentioned it. Backed!
@sharond58542 жыл бұрын
Just late pledged this one, thanks to you. It looks like a really great game experience. I also watched Gabe Taylor's vid, "Understanding Bloc by Bloc", and it really cemented my decision to order the game. Thank you for sharing such great content, it's very much appreciated. :)
@hydrostatic30002 жыл бұрын
This is my kinda game! Ⓐ
@jikl13242 жыл бұрын
I finally got my copy from the backing! It’s been really fun to learn, can’t wait to share it with my friends this week!
@stopsomewhere91042 жыл бұрын
I just backed it and am super excited to play solo, a game I think I can handle multiple factions on. This and 51st state are gonna have me all over GameFound
@disposable1572 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this for a long time. Really glad it went to GF over kickstarter
@timoseppa91242 жыл бұрын
I had to scrounge around to buy the second edition about a year ago. Great game. I got it based on your recommendation.
@ramyahoo2 жыл бұрын
This a solo game as well, regardless of the number of factions you have to control.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
I should have been more clear, there is no dedicated solo mode as such, just multi hand solo
@ramyahoo2 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG I do agree you probably categorized correctly, since essentially any coop game can be solo'd
@Krishtov8302 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to get hands on this after hearing about it from you for so long!
@Quesoeighty2 жыл бұрын
Does the new edition still have the traitor mechanic?
@Quesoeighty2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I saw semi coop on the gamefound page, so I am assuming so.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Yep, but we rarely play that mode in the other versions and didn't for testing this one. So i just focused on the co-op mode
@stephenfarrell85872 жыл бұрын
...but it does say 1-4 players and has Solo highlighted as a feature in the Genre list...?! Cheers and good gaming
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Solo you really have to play multiple factions by yourself
@bezimeni20002 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG so no.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
@@bezimeni2000 Well, yes and no. No it doesn't have a dedicated solo mode, as mentioned in the vid. But yes you can play it solo playing multiple factions. Which is also solo play.
@krusty17962 жыл бұрын
3:27 Why do you say always playing with 4 faction. As in the rules there are setting to play with 3 or 2 faction only.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Because i personally prefer playing that way
@krusty17962 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG I thought this rules were new to the 3rd ed but not they are the same as the 2nd ed. So still not really good scaling setup would you say?
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Its better, but i still much prefer all 4 factions in play.
@anonleft2 жыл бұрын
Keen but... Australia and NZ are in "rest of world" and the quoted shipping is FIFTY USD. Since they've used your video on their campaign, do you think they might listen to a plea for a specific Australia/NZ shipping arrangement?
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Already working on it with them
@anonleft2 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG this is good to hear! Instaback if the shipping wasn't so ludicrous...
@50ccentertainment2 жыл бұрын
Also hoping for a solution on this. Your video sold me on it, but paying more for shipping than the game makes my skin itch...
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the shipping costs are berserk, they know this and are trying to find a solution. Especially as about 1/2 the comments on gamefound are from Aussies and Kiwis
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
They have updated on the gamefound page comments that they are finding a way to reduce shipping costs
@jimmymelnarik38732 жыл бұрын
Third time backer baybee
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Better than me, i had to wrangle the first one 2nd hand
@jimmymelnarik38732 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG they did a good job with hype in anarchist publishing spaces back in the day.
@puddincupp2 жыл бұрын
So always play with four factions in even in multi-handed solo? That usually disappoints me in other games, but this game looks interesting. Two handed is fine, three handed is boarder line. With four I feel like I am spending more time figuring out the turns than enjoying the game.
@krusty17962 жыл бұрын
you can play 2 faction for the solo it's in the rulebook.
@georgeblack27492 жыл бұрын
Can someone please push me the link to back this one? I’m trying to find it and I’m struggling.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Its in the video description
@krusty17962 жыл бұрын
The game has a solo mode it's in the rules book you play 2 factions.
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
Yes, but that is just a mulithand co-op mode, there are no dedicated rules for solo play or any automa or bot players asides from the cops.
@krusty17962 жыл бұрын
@@3MBG I get the distinction but it sound like you can't play solo. And this you said in your video all the 4 factions are out but in fact you can play with 2 . Maybe that why to me setup with 2 factions is already a lighter version of the player mode to be played solo.
@mbrochh822 жыл бұрын
original game didn't convince my group. the gametime was faaaaaar too long and the hidden traitor mechanic was completely pointless and not fun. would you say that this version plays a bit faster and did they do something to turn it into a proper co-op game?
@3MBG2 жыл бұрын
We didnt care much for that system either and never used it. The new version its 100% optional