Bagger racing is probably the best thing to happen to motorcycle racing since... ever. So glad to see Harley and Indian finding this badass niche.
@That_Guy_Says_Hi Жыл бұрын
And it's a fair fight, too. Plenty of dough backing each side. I ride a Scout set up as a full-dress bagger and I just giggle at the lean on these bad boys.
@daveyanderson61662 ай бұрын
I just found this in June 2024 I'm hooked already.
@lexustech48 Жыл бұрын
The fact that any road glide owner could turn their bike into something close to this is so badass. Factory based racing is fun to watch but incredible to think that some of the engineering that went into this bike is shared among the factory bikes its based on. I hope KOTB is around for a while, such a great concept!
@mrh30852 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a “performance bagger” since 2011. Taller custom suspension, Lyndell brakes, BST wheels, Baker 7spd trans, built H-D 120r motor, adjustable handlebars made of billet aluminum, extended swingarm, etc. Not a full race bike like this but mine is 100 lbs lighter than stock. With most of the weight loss in the form of rotating mass so it feels even lighter at speed. Great to see people take these road toads and make them handle. T-Man Performance built 124R done in 2011. 135hp / 145tq to the wheels.
@RacecarDev Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a video or a build thread. Sounds exactly like what I would like to build in the future.
@Kevin_Ho70 Жыл бұрын
What tires and tire pressure are you running for the street?
@mrh3085 Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_Ho70 Same psi as stock. Bike has 18” wheels front & rear.
@geraldgoodiii69935 ай бұрын
@@RacecarDevjust saw this .. YES they need to do a vid on this OG performance bagger
@bigk77882 жыл бұрын
Kyle Wyman was the coolest guy at road America last year. Obviously he was extremely busy racing but he made time for anyone and everyone. I'm not a Harley guy but Kyle and king of the baggers series is starting to change my mind. The new ST model really going to make it hard for me not to buy my first HD.
@FishFace132 жыл бұрын
Kyle is a top bloke having a chat with you guys. Great effort, thanks for this. Just bought a Street Glide ST. Having moved from very much the wrist crippling performance bikes with no real padded seat, after a back op. Oh my what an awesome bike. Never had a Harley Davidson, let alone a bagger and I’m in love with it! Sounds like I need to start modding it, what to do first…? Thank you for the content.
@mojomanmurph19252 жыл бұрын
The great thing about racing is the technology and lessons learn translate over to production. From driving vehicles and riding motorcycles for many decades, you can tell the difference.
@MichaelBertini2 жыл бұрын
This was dope exclusive content! I learned a good bit with this one. I love that the performance bagger scene is growing.🤘🏼
@danielbates2112 жыл бұрын
Kyle is such a amazing inspiration for Harley and the performance bagger aspect of riding. Hope Harley hired him as R&D and let's him inspire some new models.
@edwardpool32 жыл бұрын
Please upload more often Mr. head!
@MotoAmerica Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the 2023 Mission King of the Baggers season to start soon!
@stevenr55632 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kyle Wyman for bringing the red white and blue number one back thank you so much
@daveyanderson61662 ай бұрын
Why am I just finding this series now, as an overall racing fan? These machines are amazing!!!
@7BunBunerGoldRides2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for interviewing the King! This was an awesome interview! Go Harley Davidson!!!
@slayer04031974 Жыл бұрын
I so can't wait for this to keep growing as full race series and include Softails ( I hope!!) And include all manufacturers. 💪
@trollingpatroll71962 жыл бұрын
great video, its nice to learn about all these different things, kyle seems like a really cool down to earth guy too
@user-zz8mn9bt8b29 күн бұрын
Thank you. I took about 2 decades off from following any sort of bike racing and there isn't much info about what makes a bagger,super hooligan or why different displacement bikes are in supersport now.
@borealmetalworx2 жыл бұрын
GREAT ViDEO!!!! Thanks so much that was awesome. That bike is so fn sick. Can't wait for the 2022 race season
@m1cky62 жыл бұрын
Seems like a very genuine guy, very informative and insightful...awesome bike!!!
@kdsowen2882 Жыл бұрын
Cool to see someone like Kyle who is passionate about what he is doing.. never thought I'd see 'Bagger-Racing' ...you just never know these days . Dave NZ
@robertlumsden9422 жыл бұрын
this was an excellent interview. i really enjoyed it. good luck to that young man.
@MrTurk69882 жыл бұрын
More ideas for my own street glide... Thanks for the info and digging the channel
@revengefullobster4524 Жыл бұрын
Definitely need to make these available for the street. I'm sure a lot of us older sportbike guys would love this.
@Fibermyalgia10 ай бұрын
Man a plane Jane road glide is 20 k I don’t even wanna know what this would be 😂
@RedCVO10 ай бұрын
@Fibermyalgia I heard the mods run about another $70k. A lot of the price is in the carbon fiber and lightening the frame.
@diamantedonaldson95792 жыл бұрын
Great video !! I learned a lot from this thank you !
@mindfornication4funnАй бұрын
Love the sound of the ELECTRIC Harley !!!!
@paulbronnenberg20752 жыл бұрын
THANX BH ! Great stuff !!!!
@timdavis81542 жыл бұрын
Great information. Harley should make the scope on the left side for our street bikes.
@markwilbur60122 жыл бұрын
Great vid,Kyle was very informative,love watching the king of bagger races
@toofastnobrakes2 жыл бұрын
Badass bike. Would love to see harley or Indian make some muscle cruisers out of those platforms. Maybe not as tall or extreme of ergos, but defiantly taller, better lean angle, and no fairing please.
@CarcassGrater2 жыл бұрын
HD tried with the VRod but they focused too much on 'cruising' rather than handling, too low and too much rake
@BloodPlusPwn2 жыл бұрын
I mean, that's pretty much the Low Rider S right? lol
@toofastnobrakes2 жыл бұрын
@@BloodPlusPwn still to low, to heavy, and poor flickability
@toofastnobrakes2 жыл бұрын
@@BloodPlusPwn think something more like the xdiavel or vmax,
@BloodPlusPwn2 жыл бұрын
@@toofastnobrakes I don't have much trouble flicking mine around but it definitely does sit low. Could always just toss some taller springs on it and have at it though
@MrAgentEcho6 ай бұрын
NGL this video was a big reason why I got my ST.
@PeterSmith-or3pq2 жыл бұрын
Whow , wanna see them. Cant wait till the season starts . 🇨🇦
@crypto_que Жыл бұрын
The fuel question sends me!!! " It smells GREAT " lmfao. I rode a carbed bike for years, something modern EFI and electric guys will NEVER understand is how important the fuel smell is to the ride. I know that sounds crazy, but too bad. Combustion sound & smell on a bike might be 90% of the experience.
@X-American2 жыл бұрын
I have the black street glide ST in my garage.
@ImWithBigRed2 жыл бұрын
There’s a lot of love between you guys. Respect to you both.
@douglasbelasco9773 Жыл бұрын
Kyle and his brother are from my area their mom owns a HD dealership the 2 brothers have been racing since they were kids great folks.
@chuckkifer15512 жыл бұрын
If I had a man-crush, it would be Kyle. Anyway, I just put a set of bags on the WG and windscreen is next. I plan on putting some miles on it this year with many moderate length trips. It has a 95 kit with 10.5:1, 570 cams and ported and polished heads and she really pulls but mileage is not stellar unless you baby it 😴. There is a local shop that has a Dynojet and I may go see what I'm actually working with. I know the 2-1 pipes will help me get more power but I love the look of my "stock" 88 with classic slip ons. So I'd say I have a sort of performance bagger, just not quite to that level.
@journeyofjerry8202 жыл бұрын
i never knew of a GP shift pattern . Very informative
@alamotoracing8792 Жыл бұрын
After you asked him why chain vs belt he went directly to talking about how great Harley is for like a minute but walked around and avoided the question and then went straight to cooling solutions for the motor. 😂 not sure why though, because it’s a simple answer
@wizardmoto2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love all the up close content we've been getting from the KOTB bikes, but this (along with Zach's onboard) are probably my favorites so far. Very well done
@BloodPlusPwn2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Surprised it isn't turbocharged btw. Seems like a natural thing for a race bike. I'm assuming it's just in the rules. I love this new bagger culture coming about, and I love Harley for really committing to it. I don't feel like they've really done anything like that in forever to appeal to younger folks.
@jradish2 жыл бұрын
there was a turbo street glide in the mix it didn't do well
@BloodPlusPwn2 жыл бұрын
@@jradish Ah, I guess if they couldn't get it working well that's fair enough
@onlyhereonce72902 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a motor company does whatever it takes to win. Spare no expense.
@brandonstone69622 жыл бұрын
You have NO IDEA just trust me on that, you have no clue.. And I say that being I hand delivered every part on the bike in this video.. And I personally got to see the transformation of it being a fully stock bike to a living, breathing monster that it is now.. It was very impressive to watch and seeing it perform on the track from what it was is even more impressive
@michaelmitchell59092 жыл бұрын
MilliondollarBogan has over 20 grand in his road glide. Got Wilbers suspension, 131 motor , the whole deal....looks bad ass and it's a 2018 so it's the gunship gray cvo
@dearslayer45242 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I can see a future 131R in the P&A catalog lol
@scoobymoto98582 жыл бұрын
That bike is freaking awesome!!!
@Kevin_Ho70 Жыл бұрын
What are the best performance tires and what tire pressure front/rear recommendations for daily street use?
@davidchereneimmel88202 жыл бұрын
One Bad A** Ride for sure!! Let's win In 2022 HD. Super job Big K!
@billcobb94082 жыл бұрын
Excellent video
@williamland12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video !! Thanks 👍🏻🏁🏁
@Firestorm6372 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would rather convert a Super Duke to a performance bagger. You start out with huge lean angles with 180 horsepower and 104 ft pounds torque from factory. Less torque needed on 500 pound bike. Super Duke, I believe, has the largest diameter pistons(4.25 inches) of any mass produced motorcycle. Even with the inertia mass of those pistons able to rev 10,000 rpm. The bike comes with a warranty!
@brockcroy8052 жыл бұрын
Wow, didn't know the pistons of that bike were so large. I was thinking the BMW R18's would be bigger, but the KTM beats it by 0.9mm.
@user-tm9ho3bm4v2 жыл бұрын
A ktm is never the better option over anything else. If the bike doesn't turn out being junk the aftersales support definitely will.
@mikeadkins76652 жыл бұрын
630lb minimum for class
@montha1232 жыл бұрын
A Suzuki boulevard m109R has the biggest pistons at 4.4 inches across making it bigger than any piston used in any production car or motorcycle in the world
@Spike9803 Жыл бұрын
Right on! The King of the Baggers Race series is going to change Bagger motorcycles forever. This genre of motorcycle, “Baggers”, was ripe for improvement IMO. Younger riders don’t want “Granddad’s motorcycle”. Older veteran motorcyclists are moving to lighter bikes; they can’t muscle around an 850lb motorcycle like they could when they were 30yo. Lighter, faster, better handling, more durable Baggers helps the entire motorcycle industry. Racing improves the technology, durability and performance of street motorcycles. So it will be with Baggers. King of the Baggers Race series is the best thing to happen to Harley Davidson and Indian since they started up the rivalry again when Polaris bought Indian! Just the improvement in tire technology from Racing Baggers will be a game changer for heavy motorcycles. This is the tip of the iceberg with the technology showing up on race ready Baggers. The King of the Baggers Racing is GOOD too! The riders are dicing it up; riding to WIN! It’s very entertaining.
@billbonu16397 ай бұрын
Whenever you're ready I'll race you title for title on my bone stock gen 1 fjr.
@lordbentley730 Жыл бұрын
Shocks are higer to get more traction in corners just like new sports bikes and motogp and ofcourse more traction while breaking.
@lordbentley730 Жыл бұрын
Racing bikes like motogp are taller for more reason one of them is more levrage taking a corner and I think you also get more room fore more lean angle and more traction because you can hang of more in a higher lean angle = all this gets you higher cornering speed. Am I right?
@nikitis13 Жыл бұрын
Good point. Harley could make a truck load of $'s by taking much of these pieces, dialling it back a few notches and selling them as a built item found in their catalog. Missing opportunities... I think most road riders would love to see something like this made easily available.
@PDPIE10292 жыл бұрын
Cody is doing awesome in MotoAmerica as well!
@jacobray17522 жыл бұрын
I made some of the carbon on this bike
@funhumanusa2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@marcnunes69162 жыл бұрын
Oh look! Harley does know how to make a proper swing arm. I'd like to know who came up with those cam adjusters - what a great idea 🤬 All baggers on the road have a misaligned rear wheel thanks to that marvelous piece of engineering 👏
@CactusJack2522 жыл бұрын
Just the harley baggers. The other brands don't have that problem.
@marcnunes69162 жыл бұрын
@@CactusJack252 exactly. Dynas don't have alignment marks either but we have found the coat hanger test is pretty darn close. The baggers is very difficult, not only because you are torquing the same direction the least point of resistance, but there is a ton of movement on that right cam. And even if you can keep both cams in place while torquing it down it doesn't mean the wheel is centered.
@klahowya_capo2 жыл бұрын
Your best video yet!
@javonbrandon2 жыл бұрын
That bike is a beauty
@knobb032 жыл бұрын
where could I find a belly pan like that ?
@ilovecarnitas2 жыл бұрын
What a cool episode
@ardyrides834 Жыл бұрын
M8 V-Twin, 131R c.i., spec fuel, producing over 150 horsepower he said !
@DowntownmcThailandofficial Жыл бұрын
So amazing bike❤
@esco15782 жыл бұрын
Harley needs to make a bagger that's more race/corner focused. I like this direction
@kongebilj1932 жыл бұрын
All HD.. Öhlins but hei Öhlins is a Swedish company. Best you can get in the world :) Had it on alot of my builds with Snowmobiles, cars and bikes :) Never fail compare to other brands!
@jeffreybrannon602 жыл бұрын
Are performance camshafts made for the Indian scout 60 and 1200? If so I'd love to see performance advantages of them
@therealrobertbirchall2 жыл бұрын
This is why people buy harleys, because there are so many aftermarket parts available. Indian will not match HD for aftermarket service for years, if Polaris keep making Indians that is.
@jeffreybrannon602 жыл бұрын
@@therealrobertbirchall yea I know but I've found that Indian has more performance out of the create than Harley and a better ride quality
@therealrobertbirchall2 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreybrannon60 yes Indian sell finished bikes Harleys are a kit, you need the rest of the bits to finish them. As for ride quality though I love my 2020 m8 softtail Street bob, it does handle better than the older harleys for sure. Maybe the Mo Co are afraid of getting sued.
@johnathandk421342 жыл бұрын
I still don't see them on the website but lloydz said they were possibly making cams for the scout. They already have cams for the thunderstroke engines
@jeffreybrannon602 жыл бұрын
@@johnathandk42134 thank you for the information I shall contact them and see what I can come up with
@RoadRashHD2 жыл бұрын
Wow they want a lot to watch the live stream of the king of the baggers. A season pass is $109.99, Its cheaper to pay F1 to watch their entire season and all the support series for 20 plus races
@JoshsTruckingadventures2 жыл бұрын
It’s a shorty but the head pipes are longer and equal length
@sethj7102 жыл бұрын
What’s different between a 131 and the R variant. My coworkers 131 kit, not even the crate motor, is 150 at the rear wheel
@justinlatour24102 жыл бұрын
I have a 19 with a with a 117 stage iv. Put a d&d fat cat exhaust with no cats or 02 sensors... and a power vision tune on it and and by doing that my dyno numbers came up from 116 hp 122 tq to 132 hp and 143 tq the exhaust and tune are very huge factors in your engine performance. The performance of the motor with the prostreet tuner is really dialed down and within epa standards. Witch equals less power and it most likely making it run hot
@brandonstone69622 жыл бұрын
The difference is basically EVERYTHING
@joeblow50372 жыл бұрын
Outside of MotoGP, my most enjoyable racing series. I hate to say that..... but it's true Wish Honda would introduce the RS-750 again....and I might include flat track.
@CraigSmith5682 жыл бұрын
I hear performance bagger and I think Yamaha FJR1300.
@jeremyswaney41932 жыл бұрын
This Is awesome, pretty dame cool post.
@lordbentley730 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see baggers outperform sportsbikes 😀 torque on that must be like 250nm if hp is over 150. Insane.
@codysikels41563 ай бұрын
Didn’t even come close to answering why chain over belt
@drainmonkeys3857 ай бұрын
Imagine having a job that requires you to ride your Harley all day… lol .. there would be zero sick days for me..
@bradlozano25712 жыл бұрын
Question...Does the LRST platform qualify to run in the King of the Bagger next time?
@coastaltransplant2 жыл бұрын
ST should have tbars and OHLINS... and inverted front end at least
@chevafootbrave78752 жыл бұрын
Suppose this the testing ground of future bagger. I gather* (*I am not involved with Anti Drug MADD or RADD) that in like 2024-25 Harley is switching over, bagger engines like the 1275
@jimregal928 Жыл бұрын
What did they do to tune that bike???
@Rican_Road_King2 жыл бұрын
Indian Motorcycle is gonna be watching, learning, and tweaking their bikes after this, LoL!
@IdFightMyDad6 ай бұрын
What's in the bag!?!?
@BostonScreamer11 ай бұрын
WHATS IN THE BAGGGSSSS!?
@scottanderson41752 жыл бұрын
What these guys are doing on these bikes is actually unbelievable 🥂 they are running the same lap times as the twins cup bikes😳 600 and 700 cc bikes just goes to show what $150K will get you 🥂
@trailcammonsters2 ай бұрын
Wyman fans like!
@richardweidman22982 жыл бұрын
What kind of air cleaner is that
@kellymchenry19442 жыл бұрын
What about the bags!!!
@shane84932 жыл бұрын
If you are Harley guy like I am, than your Kyle Wyman guy. When he said “green flag to checker all out” I got pumped. I’m so excited for the full 6 race schedule. Hope to attend in Monterey. Get after it Kyle!
@lulurobot2065 Жыл бұрын
I kinda want one just so I can race sports bikes
@bradpotter64012 жыл бұрын
He never really answered the question about why the bike runs a chain instead of a belt. I believe it's because chains are more efficient in transmitting power.
@brianm57532 жыл бұрын
i wanted to hear it
@jameshenderson72242 жыл бұрын
That's cool. I really just wish they had to roll them off the showroom floor and race. Maybe change the air pressure in the tires and that's it. Go race. But will never happen because money talks.
@lordbentley730 Жыл бұрын
The weight is insane like 100kg + more then motogp. Thats the fundamental in bagger racing. Racing something that in peoples mindes shouldn't be possible. Would like to se this against a stock super sportbike 😀 I think this will win becaus the modern sportsbikes are over hyped they have crazy numbers but they don't show on track old sportsbikes with less hp are still faster.
@johno75642 жыл бұрын
How is it Ducati isn’t taking part in this series???
@kw25192 жыл бұрын
I feel like this series needs more hp
@michaelwilson31653 ай бұрын
Horrable bikes might aswel get a car
@jaredkish87162 жыл бұрын
What is that guard over the front brake?
@jaredkish87162 жыл бұрын
*lever
@Freon_Treibertronik2 жыл бұрын
As badass as this bike is an I know it’s all about performance, but that seat really looks kinda stupid
@albertstabelli58692 жыл бұрын
What is the seat height of that motorcycle?
@mojomanmurph19252 жыл бұрын
So tall that only Matt Laidlaw can flat foot the bike at a stop.
@phattz038 ай бұрын
Obviously!!!
@The10thManRules Жыл бұрын
What's the point of a race bagger if you can't race while listening to your favorite tunes and your old lady on the back in a tube top.