Is Indian Motorcycle Dying?

[@BlockheadMoto]

We hope you guys enjoyed our investigative journalism! Round of applause for Justin Burgundy 😂 And BIG thanks to Indian Motorcycle for the opportunity to checkout Indian Riders Fest!

[@3percentmick705]

Anybody who is a Harley fan should want a company like Indian to succeed. Having a competitor like Indian makes Harley stay competitive in their pricing.

[@flyonawall6521]

100%

[@KorpenXIX]

Competition breeds inovation, more competition please =D

[@Bigjohn2121]

​@KorpenXIX The only thing people seem to want is more power even though we now they have sport bike motors around 1000cc that are pushing 200+hp 100+ftlbs of torque. While a 114, 1868ccs are rated at 100hp 119ftlbs.

[@KorpenXIX]

@@Bigjohn2121 Sadly true in some cases, and I have owned those bikes, even own a 1000cc sport bike right now sitting around 180hp, I ride that one less then I do my 800cc 90hp bike though, just more comfy power for the road. Did also have an 1800cc Harley not too long ago, just stupid size of an engine in my mind, but was also real comfy for long distance travel.

[@danzahhh13]

Wow so true! I will never talk shit about Indians and other competitors again!

[@sparkyastwo]

As an Indian and H-D owner, I love both of them. I ride my Indian more than my H-D. If I had a bed in my garage, I’d sleep with my Indian.

[@fred9783]

I'm also a HD and indian owner, and for me it's vica versa. I prefer my HD over the Indian

[@ButterflyDragon9]

Same. My Challenger is hands-down the best bike I've ever owned. I have to force myself to ride my Fatboy so it doesn't just rot in the garage.

[@fred9783]

@@ButterflyDragon9 damm let me have that fatboy then, I'd ride the heck out of it

[@tomboyabit]

How lucky I was to share thus all with you two. Long live Indian Motorcycles for bringing people together!

[@BlockheadMoto]

We're glad we go to meet and experience IRF with you, TomBoyAboot! Looking forward to London, tickets booked! 🤘

[@fallendark6952]

Just bought my first motorcycle last week and it was a Indian scout rogue. I hope indian doesn't die. I finally got my dream bike and loving every minute of it.

[@johnproctor3071]

Justin, that was awesome. Blockhead, it is absolutely crazy how, a few years ago, there was a decision made to film an 883. Now you have been able to travel the world that probably would have never happened. Congratulations, sir. Thanks for the videos.

[@BlockheadMoto]

It really is crazy to think! The opportunities and places motorcycles can take you 🤘

[@mojomanmurph1925]

Ran across some Victory owners a few days ago. They are still upset with Polaris and won't ever buy another product from them. They are a loyal bunch. Their bikes had over 100,000 miles on them.

[@absynthe9820]

Why are they upset with Polaris?

[@starrider1900]

And still can't get no parts

[@OCDCYCLES]

@@absynthe9820, Polaris killed the Victory brand

[@JIMBOBALOU]

It's not really Polaris's fault. Victory wasn't profitable for several years before they killed the brand.

[@tomoates8568]

Motorcycle sales have been down ever since the recession in 2008. Numbers have never recovered ever since then regardless of manufacturer. With most of them increasing their prices I don't see more people buying bikes unfortunately

[@marcoantoniogarcia38]

That’s in the US because bikes are seeing as a weekend hobby and not also a daily commuter like in other countries. Also it doesn’t help that in most of the country you cannot lane split and have to ride as if you’re in a car in the city which is really dumb and take away one of the biggest advantages of riding over driving in big congested cities.

[@kschantz]

@@marcoantoniogarcia38 I ride my Chief to work almost every day. I hate lane splitters. It's dangerous and it makes auto drivers hate motorcyclists even more. I've had to use that space a couple of times to get our from behind a couple of morons riding each other's quarter panels, but straight up lane splitting? Never.

[@marcoantoniogarcia38]

@@kschantz That’s something very US American to say. Driver’s hate you, why? It’s not as if you’re skipping the line in front of them, they won’t arrive any earlier if you don’t pass them, on the contrary, if you take the space of a car and stand behind them you’re going to make the traffic even worse. In Europe, Asia, Latin America… no auto driver is going to hate you for lane splitting because most two wheels riders do that and there’s a lot more two wheels on the road then in the US, so it’s just something normal. Besides, there’s nothing worse than sitting in traffic on a motorcycle, in the rain it’s even worse. About the danger part, yes, it can be kinda dangerous, but riding is dangerous anyway, just be careful.

[@jayleav]

Thanks for the video (from an Indian owner). I’d kill for that opportunity man. That’s awesome. Glad someone mainstream is making some Indian.

[@DerekFrampton]

If Indian was dying, I don't think they could afford PRAGUE of all places FFS! DAMN! GREAT video A&J!

[@mickeygaines007]

Harley has but the ball back on Indian to come up with something good this next reveal. Gap has closed significantly. But Indian is far from dead. I say this being a Harley guy.

[@robertmckendry8670]

I am a big fan of both Harley Davidson and Indian, I believe having the two brands exist in competition with each other is ultimately great for the consumer as it pushes the quality of both brands bikes to a new level, just look at the latest models, tech that would rival European bikes and more performance than ever before. I hope they are both around for a long time to come.

[@goochma]

I agree. 👍🏻

[@BlockheadMoto]

Well said!

[@stuwhyte479]

@@robertmckendry8670 I totally concur!

[@forgedglory]

Just traded in two Harley’s for an Indian challenger.

[@johnh8197]

I just traded in a 2013 ultra classic and a 2005 Wide Glide for a new Roadmaster. I couldn’t be happier. I’ve been riding motorcycles for over 40 years and most of that 40 years was on HARLEY-DAVIDSON. Their sales department at my local shop really let me down and I made the decision to give another manufacture the opportunity that Harley refused.

[@rickosborne6521]

Isn't the Challenger amazing? I've owned many HDs and love basically everything on 2-wheels, but man the Challenger is something else. I just can't get enough of mine.

[@1alabine]

I ride 2022 Roadmaster Limited I just finished a little 6000 mile ride from Toronto to Colorado via Kansas Missouri Nebraska Iowa Indiana Illinois so on and so . Just changed my oil and now doing another 2000 miles to Nova Scotia most reliable bike I’ve ever had !

[@usmcvet0313]

Came through my neck of the woods, in Missouri.

[@sk8xaq]

Don't particularly care about this topic, but I still watched. So glad I did! This is a gorgeous video, from the landscapes, architecture, views, niche motorcycles, and sweet editing. This is cable TV caliber, I mean that as a compliment. Great video, glad you did this topic, too. Strong work!!!!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks so much, we really appreciate the feedback! Glad you enjoyed it, thank you! 👊

[@Kricket2390]

💀 Ola’s response “that was the dumbest question ever”

[@BlockheadMoto]

Best response, had me dying 😂

[@j3suns]

Loved this. You and Amanda, Harley and Indian, MAKING EACH OTHER BETTER!! Much love...

[@BlockheadMoto]

Thanks J3!

[@ML-ii3we]

Would love a Sport Chief to add to my stable of Harleys

[@greg4hand73]

I've been watching since before the first giveaway with the grom and also had the opportunity to meet yall at the "face reveal" open house event. It's unreal to see how far things have come and continue to grow....yall guys keep grinding and we'll keep supporting! Justin Burgundy character is great as a commentator, lol.

[@DerekFrampton]

Justin.. dude... you're a comedic gem man. STAY YOU! Blessings!

[@loumancini1074]

Indian will never die

[@markbaca9512]

😂 I'm sure those words have been spoken before

[@johnwatkins7111]

As an Indian owner...Long Live The Tribe! ✌🏼

[@Notimetoplaywu]

🍻🤘🏻

[@kindasupersonic7114]

In the Open market, everyone should want companies with competitive products to stay relevant … because it helps with competitive pricing … if Indian goes away.. then Harley can start pricing creeping because there is no competition to compare prices too and keep them in check. Take that for what you will.

[@izzojoseph2]

PLUS, quality will drop

[@tainopapi]

The way that lady denied that hug was hilarious🤣🤣

[@_Tommy_D]

Awesome video! It’s great to see you and Amanda travel and enjoy these events together and reaaally awesome to see you guys hang out with tomboy who’s another of my favourite bikers! Big love from the UK ✌🏻💚

[@siegfriedmotoron]

It was really cool to see you in places where I have been. Greetings from Slovakia! (Got to love Cesky Krumlov)

[@dustyhellcatrides]

I love this video. I never realized so many people around the world loved Indian as much as I do. My husband is a Harley guy, but I’m all about the Indians and the culture around it. Rock on!!! 🤘🏽😝

[@Texasgolf]

After owning both, I like my 2020 Indian Chief Dark Horse better. 4 years only 18000 miles but runs perfectly.

[@Wes.jumpss]

18000 in 4 years?! That’s it?! 😂

[@phil4986]

Has anyone ever seen any Indian Motorcycle company ads? They are the invisible Ameican company that makes some stunning products that NOBODY knows about. Appalling marketing.

[@rjj4304]

Well the analytics show pretty clearly indian isn't dying, quite the opposite. Pretty expensive looking event for a "dying" company.....harley is the company losing market share

[@howdiedoodie8587]

I’m definitely not saying it’s happening, but you can’t judge a company’s viability on the amount of money spent on an event like this. I worked for a rail car manufacturer back in the 80’s. They sent a bunch of efficiency experts down to our plant for a couple of weeks. About a month later the company invested several millions of dollars upgrading the computer systems and many things on the production system. About 2 months after this was done they started laying people off which always seemed to happen around the presidential election time for some reason and had happened that way for 50 years. But this time was different, they laid everyone off and completely shut down operations at the plant permanently, and eventually the plant was sold. I asked a union rep why a company would come in and spend millions of $$ on a plant and then just shut it down. He said that’s been done many times by many companies and they do it for a tax write off. So you can never really tell. I learned from that to always buy at least one share of stock in a company I had an interest in. By owning one share of stock you get info as a shareholder that gives you the real insight into a company’s health. If shareholders aren’t making money , look out. It’s all about them being kept happy.

[@bmagada]

When I pay off my current bike, I'm trading in for a scout 101 or a sport chief.

[@usmcvet0313]

What is your current bike?

[@chrishunter5041]

It was good to see you two at the IMR fast, Indian Motorcycles are not dead🤗

[@jmarkr100]

Harley is woke as Hell. I’ll keep my Scout and my pride! 1901

[@leudwigc6000]

Forget the motorcycles, that castle was incredible!!!

[@michaelbraham3464]

I love my Sport Chief! I am currently talking to 210 SpeedLab to get scheduled for a 131 BBK and 605 Cams. Can’t wait!

[@BlockheadMoto]

That's awesome, tell the Joshes we said hello, haha

[@markgriffiths3923]

I adore my Chief DH… my only wish is that there were as many aftermarket parts for Indian than there are for HD.

[@sublimekid247]

exactly my reason for ending up on a Harley. SO many options vs not enough options

[@JFROMM454]

Aftermarket support and lack of dealer network is why I went with HD. Those things getting sorted could be a great benefit to that brand

[@sublimekid247]

@@JFROMM454 100% agree! I am all for competition

[@markgriffiths3923]

@@JFROMM454 completely agree. It’s their best option to be a serious competitor to HD

[@colinmiles9390]

Bloody great show showing the beauty of Prague, best from Australia 🇦🇺

[@pmdinaz]

This was pretty darn funny. A nice tongue and cheek about how ridiculous the thought is of them 'dying' haha. I was at an all female event with my wife recently, and there was at least 75% Indian bikes. Wish there were more female riders (who don't get hassled by insecure men) on the road. Glad I get to share the happiness of motorcycling with my wife.

[@anthonygreco8847]

The ladies seem to be much more serious about riding and their motorcycles. Just saying.

[@randymarks4011]

I'm still riding my collection of 70s and 80s harleys, had a 46 Chief I built from swap meet parts in the mid 80s with all original parts, sold it for way more then I had into it to a collector.

[@DerekFrampton]

PRAGUE Is legit. DAMN.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Freakin' beautiful!

[@Robotkid18]

Man awesome vid brother!!!

[@jefferysmith5632]

The gregory 500 in Arkansas had over 600 indians for the world record a few years back

[@Yamahog]

Excellent Vid , Jon. As for Indian, I've heard stories of " You need to Rev an Indian hard to get anything out of them" Meaning that I take that remark as you need to be at or over 5000 rpm to get any glory from the bike. Any chance you and Chris can drum up a Dino report for say a Scout and then say a Challenger .... Or what ever you can get your mitts on ??? Stay Safe

[@manny1470]

With a history that dates back as far as Indian motorcycles and It being an American company I really want to see indian do well. Their dark horse bagger is a pretty good looking bike. Looks mean. The after market is almost non existent.

[@jasonmatthews5500]

How did the helmet do in the cold. I start And end my season in 49°. During the summer it gets in the 100°. Been following you since the iron days and know the helmet has been your fav. I will be buying one this year and was thinking about Ruroc.

[@BlockheadMoto]

With vents closed, it did really well! Few times where it felt a little cold but I'd just breathe a bunch of hot air to warm it up, haha. Perk of the pinlock visor insert, no fogging!

[@Scout4x]

Oh yeah, I forgot to call you SquareHead!

[@bobwampler3387]

The Czech Republic! Home to CZ firearms and Acta Non Verba knives-both excellent.👍👍

[@Xlac]

Also Pilsner Urquell

[@bobwampler3387]

@@Xlac Forgot about that!

[@odysseyrider]

I haven't enjoyed one of your videos this much in a minute! I enjoy them all, but this one.... Justin Burgundy was hilarious! Everyone gets a big ATTA BOY and ATTA GIRL!! Keep 'em coming!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Justin Burgundy did an amazing job, 10/10! 😂

[@Tigerric3]

wait ... heatwave and you're not DIWD ... mind blown :D loved my FTR but indeed not for long range. loved communicating with Amanda about the tune and the post on facebook ... Indian will always be better than HD in my book and i will own one again one day too !!

[@BlockheadMoto]

I used to use his code all the time in videos, and then Heatwave got wind of that and gave me my own 😂

[@petemuddafuggincarvo9284]

7:40 That's the biggest gathering of Indians I've seen in years.

[@martyv5417]

Polaris-Fest

[@scottrubie6826]

Indian are growing more than anything. Thanks for this guys was awesome to see and now know its a tourist destination to keep in mind for the future. Peace ✌️

[@krismerchant4982]

I was hoping you’d wear at least one Indian shirt

[@BlockheadMoto]

Wore one the day after we got back! Got an IRF shirt 😁

[@jl696]

Looks like a lot of fun. Safe travels!

[@boxcarbro3043]

That heatwave code is dope. I've been rocking them for years.

[@mithraicpriest]

Man I saw you at the IRF and wasn’t quite sure it was you or just someone looking exactly like you, so I didn’t come for a chat… so sad. See you next year!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Lol we had a lot of people come up and say "are you from America" as the first question, and then after we'd say yes, they'd be like "Blockhead?" Apparently people didn't expect us to travel so far for the event, but it was so worth it, we had an incredible time! Def say hello next time around! 😁

[@mithraicpriest]

@@BlockheadMoto That’s it! I got used to seeing you touring the US. So I could never expect you in the middle of the EU! will definitely be saying hello next time ✌🏻

[@pootmahgoots8482]

AINT NOTHNIG BETTRE THAN A HARLEY BORTHER, YOU AINT CRANKIN YER HAWG IF YER NOT ON A HARLEY BORTHER GOBBLESS I have a 2018 Scout Bobber that I put a BBK big bore kit with Andrews 450 Cams and TBR exhaust. I also have a 2020 Challenger that's completely stock that I use for long distance road trips. I rebuilt a wrecked Chief with all Sport Chief parts. It baffles me that there are not more people riding Indian Motorcycles, honestly. Indians are more comfortable than Harleys IMO.

[@3dee106]

I'm seeing them more and more every time I ride. And I'm in Canada.

[@NicePantsLance]

Whoa you have the bbk with andrews cams?!?! Isnt that close to 140whp/120tq? How does it perform?

[@lexburen5932]

doesnt seem that indian is dying

[@bretfriend5001]

You can save the hassle of going over seas and just go to the Indian Bike Week in New Richmond, Wisconsin USA!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Going over seas wasn't a hassle at all, it was amazing to experience the Czech Republic! We'll definitely be sure to check out Indian Bike Week as well!

[@barrymarcus6877]

Wow awesome scenery . I work at a 6 brand dealership in Va. We finally started getting in the 5 new models of the 2025 Scouts nice improvement

[@SB-mw1bg]

I love my scout bobber, coming from an Iron 883.

[@jubei6802]

They should make a sub 8000 dollar cruiser... huge hole in the market

[@sparkyastwo]

They do! A used Scout. Hahaha

[@ta-tonka1175]

There are plenty of used bikes under that dollar amount.

[@3ron]

Not with the inflation we have.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Facebook marketplace def got the best deals on used bikes 👍

[@gghostrrider]

This is awesome content! Thanks for sharing this video

[@DerekFrampton]

Oh I forgot to add. We NEED to change the channel name to SQUAREHEAD LOL⬛◼🔳◾▪🤕🤕🤕🤕 😅🤣😂😂🤣 I laughed out loud so hard on that one. probably harder than I should have lol

[@thunderglide]

good video. I got a question. Do you carry on helmet or do you have to check it? Looks like you took your own helmets. Never flow before. Not afraid. But my only worry is the whole logistics to the whole thing

[@prestontolliver2100]

The places motorcycles can take you. 👍🏽. Awesome video!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Crazy! Thanks Preston! 👊

[@flyonawall6521]

11:24 almost fell outta my chair HAHAAA 17:38 SquareHead fans...gotta love'm. :D How come Justin wasn't in this vlog? We need more international travel vlogs !!!!!!!!

[@BlockheadMoto]

Justin was the anchor. I know, the disguise was pretty good.

[@flyonawall6521]

@@BlockheadMoto Justin was the anchor???!!! damn, that BlockheadMoto channel has one heck of a budget to have their own makeup department. Flawless make up, costume design, and dialog....wow. I don't know man, I smell Emmy on the horizon. 🏆

[@beefy0978]

Theyre all dying as the world turns toward electrification and smaller engines…

[@Markotto09]

Czech Republic is an amazing place. Awesome vid.

[@BlockheadMoto]

It really is an incredible place, we loved it!

[@Mrtemple9167]

Such awesome bikes. Beautiful countryside. Love my Indian!

[@rickosborne6521]

So crazy! I never would've thought Indian had such a large following so far outside the US. I know they're sold worldwide just like HD but I dunno, I just figured big heavy American bikes wouldn't be popular at all in Europe. I absolutely love my Indian Challenger - best all around bike I've ever owned... though I miss my FTR and want to get one again. Anyone who says Indian is dying simply hasn't ridden them. They're giving HD tons of competition, and that's the best thing for all of us - both companies doing well means they both have to keep making better and better bikes to keep up.

[@reknas78]

Love you guys, be safe.

[@allycat1521]

"It's a superior bike in my opinion " Carey Hart

[@Warchief1337]

My take-away from this was "Oh shit. Amanda's bike is sick as fuck". I hadn't seen it before.

[@dmcharley64]

Everywhere looks clean...no trash.

[@BlockheadMoto]

That's one of the things I noticed as well, everywhere was very clean!

[@MoeOne2]

@11:37 “Nothing like this in the United States” Block you should come check out Hearst Castle in San Simeon Ca.

[@eHarleyAuction]

This video makes it seem like most of your time was spend eating, drinking and sleeping LOL I am glad you got to enjoy it. It all looks so good.

[@SilverIndian]

You came here & i didn't know it to meet you. What was the name of the city, village you were ?

[@BlockheadMoto]

We arrived in Prague and went to České Budějovice. Hoping to make it back for next years IRF! 👍

[@wraymogg]

Last year was even better than this year and 3 times more motorcycles. Hoping for something new next year.

[@MotoChurro]

Happy owner of a Scout Bobber. Parts are limited, and that's why I make my own.

[@greg_burn_themetalmotorcyclist]

You had me at Czech'ing out 😂❤🤘🏻

[@BlockheadMoto]

Had to 😂

[@crewgadjy]

Dam it Squarehead your a luck fella Amanda seems as nice as she is pretty and a real rider to boot. She's getting better and more relaxed in the vlogs too, be replacing you soon. lol. Nice to see an event that wasn't Harley Harley Harley. You should do an Indian as a give away bike. Cool to see Deimante AKA Tomboy a Bit as well. On a different note do you have any plans to check out Saddlemans new Mini Fairing?

[@BlockheadMoto]

Lucky fella indeed! We did an Indian Scout "proper" Bobber build awhile back and gave it away. We should def have a new one soon! Haven't seen their new mini fairing, I'll have to check it out!

[@crewgadjy]

@@BlockheadMoto forgot about that one, will have to re watch it. Definately check out Saddlemans new fairing. Its made for Sportster as well as Dynas. It not made for the New NIghster Sportster but I reckon you could make it fit, would be a unique build, No ones done the Nighster yet though I believe Kruesi is just starting one. Thanks for your reply as well, been watching since the begining, keep up the good work

[@hunterbunn1404]

Wish more people could appreciate and enjoy both. I think both make cool bikes, but we get so wrapped in rivalries and wanting to have a thing that’s “ours” so we can say our thing is better than others thing.

[@Paul20661]

hell yeah brother came home from the bar,hanged out a bit,drank a few cuz i wasn't with the bike,is at the shop so i took the opportunity this time Just got home,30 mins past midninght,enjoying a shaorma i got on the way home on one of those electric scooters

[@CAPTWHIZZ88]

Thank God for the fast forward function.

[@Allout2321]

I would love for my next bike or 2 to be an Indian but the biggest downfall in Canada is the limited dealship network. Great video!

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

Key goes in the room so they can charge for the lights being on, toilet flushing, 2$ per min on the TV etc

[@IMPORT3DKILL3R]

I’m gonna need a honest review of the ruroc 4.0. I see them in every video and they’ve come a long ways from the first release

[@TheHuester44]

Seemed like a wonderful trip . If I could I would add a week or two to motor around Europe. That’s a dream.. For Amanda if her health issues were digestive related I humbly suggest getting a bottle of Just Thrive probiotic. It does not require refrigeration. Might seem a little pricey but it works . Give it a try ! Not sponsored I just use it ! Also I really appreciate that as a mostly Harley channel you include other brands . I like many brands of motorcycles and Harley Davidson and Indian are two of my favorite brands.

[@rodneywebb955]

that looked like a great trip it looked beautiful there

[@BlockheadMoto]

Beautiful country, great weather, good food, and smooth roads!

[@ecrusch]

Justin, uh, I mean Justin Burgandy man you look about 10 years old..haha Great documentary, brother. Prague really is beautiful. And, I don't think Indian has anything to worry about...😉

[@BlockheadMoto]

Who'd have thought putting a wig on Justin would make him look younger 😂

[@ronmarvicsin7709]

Just my opinion but I think Indian tries to copy the bikes that Harley makes in style. Only a couple that I would consider buying but I can’t afford more than one at a time. I agree that it’s good to have competition to keep things evolving but prices don’t seem to stop.

[@Scout4x]

Well well... I'm subscribed to Tomboy_A_Bit too and just saw her vid on this get-together . Both vids are great and I really like the way those Czechs throw a party!

[@brohawk7395]

😂 She turned a castle into a motorcycle parking garage!! Awesome 💪🏽😎

[@BlockheadMoto]

Hell yeah, haha

[@AnAmericanPatriot1555]

Look at that… they have Galaga, PAC Man and Mario Cart! 18:49

[@BlockheadMoto]

😂 real life Mario Kart, haha

[@Kreigmstr]

Really wanted to get a Pursuit. But the local Indian dealers wouldn't cut me a deal like Harley did for the 24 limited.

[@Tlklmk]

My wife has a cousin that is the watchman in a castle over in Minnesota so we do have stuff like that in the US

[@jbradkilpatrick]

We need something like this in America. The only one I know of is Indian Bike Week. They tend to invite Sons of Anarchy/Mayan actors, and models. That’s a little lame to me. We need something with industry leaders. It needs to be an event similar to H-D’s homecoming event. And yes, I knew the title was laughable clickbait when I started watching.

[@johnnesmith3770]

Biggest gathering of Indian motorcycles in Europe since WWII!!

[@MightyMouzMoto]

Y'all stayed in a castle! Nice.

[@BlockheadMoto]

Crazy! 🤘

[@LMarshall73]

To be frank, if it does die again, the trademark will just be bought by another manufacturer or venture capital group just like the last few times they went out of business.

[@stevehunt9703]

The brand name has value based on the original history. Polaris bikes are just that with a private label.