Blood Angels vs Necrons, 10th edition Warhammer 40k battle report

Welcome to my first 10th edition Warhammer 40k battle report. 2000 points of Blood Angels take on the Necrons in this matched play game. #AdWIP #Leviathan #New40k #WarhammerCommunity
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[@isgibson]

Sultan's line, "I'm hoping I won't need to," in response to Winters asking what was holding his back line, is one of the best quotes from a 40k batrep I've heard.

[@SultanPlays40k]

Hope you all enjoyed this! Few disclaimers, the clarification rules hadn't released when we filmed this so of course the damage thing has since been FAQ'd! We chatted about it at length beforehand as we both thought it would be 'to a minimum of 1' but decided to play it as written until we were sure! Glad they sorted that! Overall some nice core rules this edition, looking forward to playing more!

[@davidcox6454]

Why though lol you should have played it as intended everybody knew it didn’t make You immune to damage 1 weapons

[@redbeardie]

Thanks Sultan - loved the primaris in drop pod moment!

[@PixelReaper]

Luckily, they have clarified that weapons cannot go lower than damage 1 as a general rule.

[@BuryMyHeartAtCrystalLake]

There was never a reasonable interpretation otherwise. In my opinion.

[@arcus9590]

"you'd think they'd notice if they'd done this wrong" 😂 😂 that is some next level copium

[@Opno]

​@@BuryMyHeartAtCrystalLakeidk, I kind of like that idea that certain weapons against certain defenses are just entirely ineffective. It doesn't work great from gameplay, but lore wise it's cool

[@Swordsmansmith87]

Idk how they missed that to begin with

[@PixelReaper]

@Sean Boerger the best way to do that mechanically is to go back to the old wounding system from 7th and before. And use armour values again

[@GutzMcStabby]

"Noone will watch this far, don't worry" And I took that personally

[@defiante1]

"What's staying back and camping on your objective point?" "I'm hoping I won't need too..." Spoken like a true Blood Angels player

[@derloco2035]

Those saves Winters rolled, scary 😨 Again an enjoyable game between two real gentleman.

[@joshlightning5685]

The reanimator has two atomiser beams, so you should roll six dice on them instead of just the three. Great battle report!

[@thekaird377]

Winters with a 10th ed battle report let's go!!! Best on KZbin by a mile.

[@quibberlin425]

I agree

[@oleww50]

💯

[@chosenofabaddon4587]

❤

[@Bear_Andersen]

What a brilliant comeback from the Necrons after a horrendous first turn. Just goes to show you shouldn't call it quits just because you have a rough start.

[@MetalofBlack]

You are probably aware of this by now but reducing damage to 0 isn't a thing unless it's a special rule that states it. "Strength, Toughness, Attacks and Damage characteristics can never be modified below 1. The exception to this is where a rule specifies that you can change the Damage characteristic to 0, where this is applied before any other modifiers."

[@Wildcat425B]

Thank goodness because that seemed utterly silly. Especially for things like Deathwing Knights that could have been immune to 2D weapons and crippled 3D.

[@yokogaijinjr.5061]

Are you able to reference it, one of the guard strategems doesn’t state to reduce damage by 1 to a minimum of one, it was one of the armored stratagem.

[@gilead2854]

@@yokogaijinjr.5061 It's in the Rules Commentary document on the official 40k download page. If the rule doesn't specifically say to change the damage characteristic to zero (for instance, a rule that says the damage of the first failed save is changed to zero) then it doesn't happen. Anything that says a -1 to damage is to a minimum of 1 damage.

[@WhyNot-sb9kk]

amazing how many wishful thinkers were hoping that their army was impervious to damage 1 by reducing to zero :)

[@Arcothefox]

Unfortunately this battle report was filmed before everyone else got the points as Winters was sent advanced copies of the rules, they obviously forgot to send him the Rules Commentary along with it.

[@benjaminrobertson2990]

I'm a BA successor player, and on the reveal of the Blood Angels army for this game I started hooting and raising the roof

[@clementcate4730]

I think you can only be affected by the same rule once, no matter the rule. You can't stack the Re-animator Auras because of that :)

[@Swordsmansmith87]

Some abilities affect multiple models or units in a given range. These are known as Aura abilities and are tagged with the word 'Aura'. A model with an Aura ability is always within range of its own Aura ability. A unit can be affected by more than one Aura ability at a time, but if a unit is within range of the same Aura ability more than once, that Aura ability only applies to that unit once.

[@lunawolve]

The beginning of a new era! 10th edition battle reports are finally here \o/

[@jennyenjensmuller7186]

Great to see the Blood Angel squads with the attached leaders. An epic batrep for 10th, by far the best I've watched so far.

[@d7bkyq6]

Thank you so much for blessing us with this video you bloody king. It might be hot outside, but it’s winters in my household.

[@wintersSEO]

Nice

[@Andy__H]

Primaris in Drop Pods! 💪 **smiles in Space Wolf** 😎

[@dalekayse4916]

Super happy, too. But confused how they were able to charge immediately after disembarking. It doesnt say anywhere that it allows you to charge immediately after disembarking, unlike Assault Ramp. Kind of a huge deal to know if thats correct or not.

[@ragnotgreymane]

Great battle. I was not expecting that result

[@kgp277]

10th and Blood Angels, Let's goooo!

[@redbeardie]

Great batrep, and great to be getting into 10th at last 😆. Thanks Winters and Sultan!

[@declancarroll3131]

Playing my first game of 10th tomorrow with UM against Necrons, this was super helpful. Fun to watch too, keep up the good work!

[@wintersSEO]

Have fun

[@TENGUartesmarciales]

Thank you for all the BA content!

[@Nosh_Feratu]

ooooooooooh, been waiting for this!! cheers bucko!!!

[@SkipTSL]

I need my coffee and my Winters' battle reports. I refuse to choose one.

[@maxtracker2904]

First Blood Angel detachment I’ve seen. Very impressed by the how divergent from a standard Gladius it proved to be. I was rather doubtful of the changes to sub factions on release but you’ve shown me it can work. Great battle too! 👍

[@priestking8636]

Thank you very much! This is a 1st battlereport with my fevourite crons in the net!!

[@ImaITman]

I am in love with the paint job on those necrons. Mixing the metallic with what appears to be yellow (I'm moderately colorblind) looks Brilliant!

[@edmundhayes9365]

I've avoid all the other 10th ed preview battle reports to wait for Winter's, lets go!

[@xommul79]

Hi winters, great report. Now the commentary have come out to clarify that -1 damage can’t actually reduce 1 damage to 0.

[@jacobbragg9958]

Great battle report. I played a handful of games as SW in 9th and haven't played 10th yet. Necrons I've started collecting but haven't played any "official" games with them so this was nice to watch and see their effectiveness and how the game flows. Really liking reanimation protocols and there's some nasty combos with that.

[@HereticDave40k]

Winters is Coming.... looking forward to this!

[@spudmonkey500]

Great battle gents. Terrifying/Glorious to see those Blood Angels flying forward, depending on which side of the table you're on!

[@TheBrimfire]

btw Captain can also atach to Sang Guard

[@zHawkC]

Winters and Sultan BRs are always great. Nice to see Sultan reminding Winters of his own rules as per usual :p always a good sport and has entertaining lists which is what's important! Fun + narrative + fluff over winning all day. P.s can we see the return of the Ad Mech pls Winters. Want to see if they can put up any sort of fight as they're my only army.

[@SultanPlays40k]

Just for you, I'll aim to bring my AdMech in the near future! With filming and release timelines, I can't promise it will come out particularly soon, but there will be one coming!

[@zHawkC]

@@SultanPlays40k Legend, thank you! What a lovely community this is, positive vibezzz. Subbing and will watch your tutorials for painting motivation which I desperately need!

[@tasteofwang81]

Always the best terrain setups.

[@PlasticAddict301]

What an explosove game, just what i expect from the new indexes

[@Thedagda801]

Superb, Supportbubblesultan‘s Blood Angels, brilliant game.

[@The_Captain40k]

I see Winters 10th edition battle report, and I instantly click

[@Swordsmansmith87]

Some abilities affect multiple models or units in a given range. These are known as Aura abilities and are tagged with the word 'Aura'. A model with an Aura ability is always within range of its own Aura ability. A unit can be affected by more than one Aura ability at a time, but if a unit is within range of the same Aura ability more than once, that Aura ability only applies to that unit once.

[@Potato-nt5if]

Great first game of 10th!

[@khainetully2309]

Winters my friend, love your content as always! Question time though, how did you get those data cards, did you just print them out and laminate them? Or can you buy separately

[@wintersSEO]

You can print them out from Warhammer Community or wait a week and they'll be in the shops.

[@historicaldelving5426]

That shot by the doomsday ark across at the dreadnought. Very tasty.

[@NiklasNilssonSth]

Brutal first turn :)

[@fredclasson7865]

I like that some shared arbitrary clarifications are gone from the rules etc. However, it seems some chaps missed the core rules about minus damage and auras!

[@yurybarsukov6166]

Hot play, super cool models, everything we like!

[@David-ku5fy]

FAQ -1 damage caps at 1. sang guard can be joined by jump captains. if a Captain model from your army with the Leader ability can be attached to an Assault Squad with Jump Packs unit, it can be attached to this unit instead

[@ericsmith9212]

As far as reducing damage to zero,GW cleared that up in the Rules Commentary that dropped today. " Strength, Toughness,Attacks, and Damage characteristics can never be modified below 1. The exception to this is where a rule specifies that you can change the damage characteristic to 0,where this is applied before any other modifiers" ( p 17).

[@arielmichel4688]

EPIC NECRON VICTORY!!!!!

[@LoboDerPraesi84]

Great Video! What model is the Nightbringer? The best alternative ive seen so far!

[@wintersSEO]

I designed it with Den of Imagination painting studio. As well as paint stuff, they can create custom sculpts

[@fearthedark442]

Can you charge after disembarking from a drop pod? it`s not a assault transport. Looking forward to read your thoughts on that

[@hannuruotsalainen9884]

Sanguinary guard can also be led by captain with jump pack.

[@gearhead_james]

My Carcharodons have a complaint for Sultan about being the most brutal space marines 🦈🦈🦈🦈🦈

[@mylifeisajoke1]

Sang Guard can attach to Captain who could normally attach to an assault squad with jump packs, not just Dante.

[@ezegaming2115]

Winters was rolling stupid high though, really changed the game, the Nightbringer should have been killed early, crazy good rolling

[@classicallybadliterature5120]

I love the necron rules for 10th and the blood angels have plauged me for all of 9th so i need to see the strats to beat them. I need to win tomorrow

[@christiankoppang8296]

10th ed let’s go! For the emperor and for the 13th!

[@magnos_decimus]

"THE BLOOD ANGELS "Upon the seed of the Blood Angels there lies the most ancient curse of mutation, a foulness that cannot be seen, which is covered over by the grace, intelligence, and high achievements which are the proud boast of this most noble of Chapters. Yet the fire the burns behind the eyes of these sons of Sanguinius is bright with a thirst which only the blood of man can slake. Aye, it would be wise to but whisper the name that comes from times heavy with age and fear, a name which echoes in the march of the Blood Angels, the name of Vampire." Quote from Warhammer 40,000: Codex Imperialis

[@jacekorowski6916]

@26:53, since your ark was stationary 6 on wounds are mortals, would be one more marine! :D

[@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475]

Monsters can still shoot in engagement range it's just -1 to their hit role unless they have a rule to negate it like certain monster units.

[@andrewr880]

What a swing 😊

[@OniFeez]

captains (with jump packs) can attach to sang guard.

[@kosgoth]

Identical aura's don't stack do they? I don't think Canoptek Reanimator's both give the buff, but I would love to be wrong.

[@MrLambLips]

You can move using the chronomancers ability after not shooting an enemy. In the designers commentary document they say a unit is eligible to shoot if it's: not in combat, hasn't advanced, hasn't fallen back. Even if it doesn't have ranged weapons it's eligible!

[@redcorsair14]

The charge didnt work when you sent the bladeguard at the lord, but according to the PDF, you cannot charge and attack models you didnt declare and if you cant reach one of the charge targets then the charge fails. Also when the ark fired at the bladeguard, he put the remaining guard and chappie out of coherancy so one of the two remaining models should have died.

[@ccoyle5065]

Can anyone point me to where they clarified the damage reduction ruling?

[@LDZMarder]

at the end did your lord pas the battel shock test? If not he has a OC of zero this would mean that the blood angels would con troll 3 objectives. Single units have to take a battelshock test if they below half of there wound points. They count as half strength then.

[@atlas6538]

They did FAQ it, -1 damge cant reduce to 0

[@Iskaral1]

Lokhust (like the insect) not Lock Hurst

[@ricksanchez3204]

I thought with the new rules that cover couldn't be used to improve an armor save below 3+?

[@godDIEmanLIVE]

Nice game.

[@BattleMatt]

So glad Necrons are a thing again, they've got fantastic lore. Didn't play my Necrons at all in 9th, and not much in 8th even. They are certainly getting dusted off and onto the battlefield now though.

[@quinngascon5362]

Wings of Sanguinius is once per turn!

[@cyanideinmycereal1077]

The clutch

[@hansjohannsen6722]

Am i wrong in the clarification that a3+ in cover is 3+ ?

[@simonneville3278]

Love your Battle Reports Winters! Death Company robbed themselves of killing The Nightbringer. Lemartes gives them Lethal Hits 👍 Deathcompany can reroll HITS (not just misses). Should have rerolled any Chainsaw hit dice that wasn't a 6 and then not left that naughty Nightbringer on 1 wound remaining. 🙂👍

[@ratactical657]

Where are the point values for units in 10th???

[@pajmage]

The Chronomancer does still count as leading a unit. They clarified that in the commentary. Appreciate however that this vid was probably filmed before you had access to that document.

[@eoinoceallaigh2472]

I Like the new reanimation rule, the old one was ok for warriors but pretty useless on anything with more than 1 wound. fits the lore of them healing wounds and getting back up way better

[@stevens9625]

Yeah but stacking the reanimation aura is just too much.

[@bradensylvester9803]

​@@stevens9625 you can't do that

[@stevens9625]

@@bradensylvester9803 Yeah, the new FAQ just came out. Also there's no 1dmg invulnerability either. You'd think this is the first time GW wrote rules for their table top game. 🙄

[@bradensylvester9803]

@@stevens9625 stacking auras was in the core rulebook 🤔

[@KahaniKhalifa]

@@bradensylvester9803 Where do you see that? I can't find anything in the rules or FAQ about stacking auras. You can't duplicate core abilities, but that doesn't apply to things like the Reanimator's aura.

[@timothylowther5417]

Sultan... Sultan look at me... I watched that far into the video 👀

[@narlescoleman2312]

Bold of you guys assume gw means -1 damage negate 1 damage 😂😅

[@ctged]

Why you didn't use the resurrection protocol at the beginning of 2 turn, since you had the orb?

[@spruttnik]

I thinks he forgor

[@timbob1145]

Well, necrons are looking rather scary, won every battle report I've watched so far 😬.

[@yabarber6902]

If both the nightbringer and death company have -1 damage doesnt that mean that bolt pistols and chainswords cant hurt them?

[@fredclasson7865]

Damage can never be negated, just reduced, halved etc.

[@deerhawk7788]

They clarified in the designer notes that came put today it cannot be reduced to 0 damage unless the rule says specifically reduce the damage to 0

[@MrCaryk]

Isnt reanimations d3 wounds?

[@alexbrooke1840]

Don’t forget your wraiths can shoot as well ;)

[@arthur.prospero]

These armies are so tiny compared to my six double strength imperial guard infantry squads

[@Javigarcia222]

Where can i get the Ctann proxy?

[@wintersSEO]

They were a limited run but MarchOfWar.co.uk has the STL and can cast you one. Hit the 'contact' drop down on the website and leave them a message.

[@philliphampton5380]

It's not because of the devastating wounds, it was that 4++ save roll.

[@chrisgregory3063]

Nightbringer is a monster so can shoot into combat because of big guns never tire.

[@Kierano777]

Didn't fancy using Red Rampage?

[@oleww50]

Whoop! 🤘❤

[@kurtl8425]

I was so burnt out on 9th. I’m really looking forward to the reset of 10th.

[@alvitto2520]

I dont think it was used it this game but dont forget - if you shoot from ventage point into a unit on ground level you get 1 extra AP

[@sebastianmeyer8039]

You got a Reanimaton CP you know that?^^

[@eviljoshy3402]

Doomsday ark gets MVP and he had some crappy shot rolls early on. Death to D6 dmg!

[@deerhawk7788]

"We assume those whom have made the 9th edition rules would have made these mistakes in 10th." Ahhh imagine if they were that good and actually proofread

[@dalekayse4916]

Question for everyone. Where does it state drop pods can actually charge immediately after disembarking in 10th? I also want to run them, but unlike the Land Raider it doesnt specify you can charge after disembarking. I thought moving 0 outside of a vehicle in disembark still counting as moving out of it and disabled you from charging? Am i missing something? Thought that was Assault Ramps who thing in 10th where it directly tells you you can. As someone who wants to not totally run 2 drop pods of blood angels death.

[@KahaniKhalifa]

Pretty sure you can't. Reinforcements always count as having made a normal move (pg 16), and if you disembark from a transport that has made a normal move you cannot charge (pg 17). There's nothing on the Drop Pod datasheet to change that. You can disembark from a transport that hasn't moved and still move and charge normally afterwards, but that can never apply to Drop Pods since you must disembark as soon as they arrive from reserves.

[@nukkinfuts6550]

Sadly Sultan forgot to add Inferno Pistols to his Death Company that Ctan would be less long lived if he had 8 shots with inferno pistols, he also had CP to play Red Rampage but forgot to do so. Sanguniary Guard could also had Inferno Pistols - or he did not add them for good sports sake, 18 Inferno Pistols is nothing to sneeze at. The Librarian Dreadnought seemed abit redundant, it should have Advanced already in turn 1 imho.

[@milomoran582]

Mephiston and co shoild have consolidayed because they have fights firat right?

[@milomoran582]

Oh because within the same phase. Hmm. They still would have been spared a lot of powerful shooting if they had

[@pauliulianghigheana7823]

You can now take shooting weapons on wraiths for free. I think the 2+ pistols would have helped a lot

[@bastionwargaming7965]

Necrons baby!!! P.S. Reanimator has 2 atomisers, so 6 dice. :)