Bloodborne Lore | The Tragedy of Laurence

READ DIS: I'm fucking dumb and forgot to turn off Laurence's theme at the end which made the video have several minutes of blackness at the end. My mistake.
I understand that I didn't touch on Gehrman's dialogue, nor the note regarding Laurence beckoning the Moon Presence. That will be covered in a video about Gehrman's character.
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[@arbiter569]

Micalosh is not in constant torture, he's euphoric. the nightmare is heaven to him.

[@PR1ME98]

Grant us eyyyyyyyeeeeeessssss

[@MegaBlair007]

@Hindenburg oooh tell me the story

[@sillyYata]

@Hindenburg wait this sounds so interesting

[@BlizzTH]

@Hindenburg Any link about this myth?

[@AdminAbuse]

Lmao "Micalosh"

[@agony23232]

So, after watching your analysis of Laurence I had a thought, what if he is burning in agony due to his shame for having Old Yharnam burned for his misdeeds? Since mass genocide is what brought him to the nightmare, part of his punishment is to relive the flames that burned those he wronged.

[@TyrantsRemedy]

@Fenix Anime BG hunters with Molly's: *YEET YEET YEET!*

[@birdiepitchfeather63]

That sounds very viable.

[@TheArmouryHD0]

@HicksZ34 my tip is use distance plus Evelyn and forget every thing else. Last time I beat him I literally didn't get hit and just shot him to death with bone marrow ash

[@agony23232]

@Hindenburg how did you come to this conclusion? That we are in Gehrmans nightmares?

[@agony23232]

@Hindenburg not disagreeing with you, just curious how you came to this conclusion.

[@FrogEnjoyer17]

Did you ever hear the tragedy of Laurence? It's not a Story Willem would tell you

[@SpeedWeed261]

No.

[@heroicnerd6404]

Laurence was a scholar so arrogant and so naive,he couldn't manipulate the old blood as he wanted and ended up sending the world to hell,ironic he couldn't save anyone from death and certainly not himself.

[@SpeedWeed261]

@@heroicnerd6404 is there anyway to learn the power of the blood?

[@badcobra1942]

Not from the hunters.

[@corneliuspildershmidt]

*TRANSITION TO FORBIDDEN WOODS*

[@fireblast133]

Is it just me or when you initiate the Laurence fight, that when he gets up, he looks like he's hungover?

[@slippyquack7672]

St. Laurence went out like a champ. "I'm done on this side, you can turn me over now"- You know that pissed them off and made them laugh, which pissed them off even more lol.

[@williamcrawford7621]

St. Laurence also played the emperor so hard with his "these are the treasures of the Church" trick. Lol, got em!

[@TheSpicyLeg]

William C It’s actually theologically sound. Jesus was very clear about wealth in biblical stories. The rich young ruler, for example, who asked Jesus what he must do to attain eternal life. Jesus told him to hold to God’s commandments. The ruler replied he did, and Jesus said to the ruler to sell all his possessions, give the money to the poor, and follow Him. The ruler loved his wealth and so refused to do that. That’s when Jesus says one of the most famous lines in the Bible: Truly, I tell you, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God. Much of the church’s woes are a result of forgetting this.

[@bungiecrimes7247]

Wut?

[@UnholyWrath3277]

Eh it's almost assuredly a myth or vast over exaggeration

[@RetroWrathX13B]

My theory to his nightmare form is pretty simple. He was the first cleric beast in life, so he's one in the after life. He's on fire to symbolize how he got in the nightmare to begin with, burning old yharnam to the ground, being marked blood drunk by proxy. I don't have a reason why he drops beast embrace but I don't believe he is the bloodletting beast. It probably would make more sense if he wasn't in the dlc. Why would the game say he was the first cleric beast, but be the bloodletting beast in life, but turn back to a cleric beast in the nightmare

[@ibn_adham]

The bloodletting beast is a form of cleric beast. Any prominent church member who becomes a beast is a cleric beast. His form in the nightmare is symbolic. It was not his true form in life. During the bloodletting beast's third phase, its head is removed and a parasite rears its head, which means that the host of the body had already been deceased. Laurence died when the parasite took over and so he took shape in the nightmare.

[@taistelusammakko5088]

Why would anyone think hes bloodletting beast thats retarted his literal skull is in cathedral ward and its from a cleric beast

[@monkeyr2910]

pena No, it isn’t. Look at the shape of the skull in the Grand Cathedral and look very hard. It is extremely similar to the Bloodletting Beast, even matching the massive crack on the left side. Also, if you look at the cleric beast’s face in the pre-rendered cinematic on the main menu(it’s the best look you’ll get), It is very, very different from the the skull in the grand cathedral, and how can the skull be visible and at the same time have the cleric beast still standing in the same room.

[@Crichjo32]

@@monkeyr2910 my theory is Laurence turned into the Blood Letting Beast in reality. But in the dream, where we find him as a cleric beast on fire, that is his own representation of himself within the dream. He is on fire because he is burning for instigating the burning of old Yharnham. And he takes on the look of the cleric beast, because (this is my own theory) he may have had a close friend or a loved one, who turned into a cleric beast. So he takes that form part of his own guilt and horror of his actions and what happened because of it.

[@soleo2783]

@@taistelusammakko5088 Did you even look at the skull before commenting this? The shape of it is legit one of the best arguments IN FAVOR of him being the bloodletting beast.

[@TalonSky]

Sudden Star Wars was sudden.

[@woogoo987]

Damn bb lore is so cool

[@-chippedstars-2889]

I read that is damn baby, lore is so good...

[@KaladinVegapunk]

Even now on a recent replay I love diving into it Although it must be really tough for other guys like this to even make a dent in the field when VaatiVidya has been the top dude since DS1, and has the ominous epic lore videos down There's mitch L who gives a funny goofy comical take on it while explaining lore which goes outside that niche, but as much as I love this dudes video a second British voiced soulsborne lore guy is just like having Bill & Jenny's as an option over Ben & Jerries haha I just watch them all to absorb it all

[@allegiance8243]

11:11 “The beasts you hunt aren’t beasts... they’re people.” “If you’re not with me.. then you’re my enemy.” “...Only a vileblood deals in absolutes.. I will do what I must.”

[@willbridges7132]

Idk about you but both executioners and vailbloods are not the best but that sounds like what an executioner would say

[@oscarofastora7422]

Laurence is my favorite character in bloodborne, which is why my character is made after him. He was smart, but ambitious which led to him doing anything he could just so he could be as loved and successful as willem. But he went down a more dangerous path which led to him ending up in the hunters nightmare where if he was just more patient... He wouldn't have been suffering for eternity.

[@gabrielthewanderer]

"I used the minutes of black at the end of this video to close my eyes and reflect on the knowledge of the blood I had just learned" -My skull.

[@mitchl6896]

That's the correct way to watch the video

[@KeizerSosebee]

You hqve much insight

[@avalonjustin]

@@KeizerSosebee Grant us eyes.

[@Xemnas4]

Everyone else is all speculating and theorizing about BB, while I'm sitting here going, "Holy shit, he's using Star Wars music! John Williams FTW!!" XD

[@jackfinnegan2217]

Xemnas4 I knew it! At first I thought I was just losing it. Lol

[@julioacceus253]

I'm glad he's using it. Some of John Williams pieces evidently has a mysterious atmosphere that fits bloodborne.

[@pvrrritv]

Mensis and the Church were most likely rivals, or they even splitted at some point, as you can take the Upper Cathedral Ward key on a Choir's member corpse in one Yahar'gul cell

[@SEMIA123]

The first sarcastic NPC, the male, is drunk. You can hear him doing the drunk hiccup sound right before he laughs. Lady might be drunk too, her laugh sounds more inebriated than anything else to me. Makes sense, I'd probably be drinking during the night of the hunt.

[@mitchl6896]

Tipsy T-Rex The question is, are they drinking alcohol... or blood?

[@SEMIA123]

Mitch L Probably a Bloody Mary or should I say, Bloody Maria (ba-dum-tsh)

[@pinchman2946]

My only issue with this theory is that Lawrence's skull specifically states he became the first cleric beast, not a bloodletting beast. Though it could be possible that maybe bloodletting beasts are an earlier stage of beast hood like how those smaller beasts in old yarhnam might be a precursor to the larger wolf like beasts.

[@FencingFox]

i like to think that laurences skull in the real world is shaped the way it is due to it being a midtransformation between a human and a cleric beast, and maybe at that stage laurence had very little humanity left but wasnt fully beast-like, which is why brador considers killing him a betrayal. the laurence in the nightmare is a fully realised cleric beast as a representation of who he became and who he was on the inside, and is being eternally punished for his sins as represented by his headache, being on fire and the nails in his body

[@celinevanruyskensvelde7448]

I always thought that Byrgenwerth was built on the Pthumerian tombs. In the game there is a hatch inside of the building that reminds me of the chalice dungeon tomb hatches. You can't use it, but it's in the corner when you enter the building on the shortcut side of Byrgenwerth building. Even after 5 years this game give me a headache putting all the pieces together. Well done FromSoft, frenzy meter in my brain going up :D

[@MrNasexD]

10:46 Holy moly man! This part was awesome af!! :)

[@imdartson3679]

If Laurence irl is the bloodletting beast, then why are there two of them? The theory is easier to buy if the headless version was the only one.

[@ibn_adham]

Look to theory concerning convolution of time in chalice dungeons. There are multiple Roms and Ebrietae.

[@xryeau_1760]

I believe the chalice dungeons exist in a state of stasis, and once someone has visited the place in it's physical form at a certain time; they will be locked within the dungeon regardless of their current position as the place becomes a chalice dungeon. That's how Queen Yharnam is pregnant in the dungeon but has already birthed everywhere else, for example.

[@sillyYata]

@@xryeau_1760 that'd explain the reason why dungeons can be randomised to, wouldn'd it?

[@absolutelyshmooie7086]

He isn’t. There isn’t much evidence for it.

[@humblehive6502]

Personally from the description of the ailing loran chalice it seemed to be saying that the scourge of beasthood came from the abuse of blood not as a way to solve issues. The tragedy is the people becoming beasts the land was ailing because of their growing dependence

[@Tengu125]

It makes sense, their transformation was the result of basically overdosing on the mutagenic Blood that can completely rid someone of all their ailments in a single dose. In Bloodborne, blood contains memories of the person or being from whom it came, and it's possible that it's only at the point where you start to lose yourself in the torrent of foreign memories that you become a true monster. Looking at the suspicious beggar though could suggest that it's possible for anyone who's taken enough blood to transform of their own will, and only when you lose yourself and become mad or feral are you irreversibly changed. It could even be that it's kind of like a pressure valve; if the pressure keeps rising because you're taking larger and larger doses without winding down between hits, it eventually overwhelms the vessel and it bursts. It is part of the key to ascension, but it requires wisdom (Insight), the patience to not be too hasty, and not fear, but rather respect, because if misused it can also be the key to self-destruction, and fear might cause apprehension and subsequently cause the previously mentioned burst, by sealing the valve as the rise in pressure becomes constant and unstoppable.

[@ComradeSeanski]

nice of you to leave us 7 minutes of silence wo we could ponder Laurence's fate in peace :)

[@lilbrother21]

I think he's on fire to represent the burning of old yharnam

[@T00LATEN0W]

I really enjoyed this video, thank you for making it. I'm playing through Bloodborne for the first time right now, and everything in the lore made sense to me up until Lawrence's skull and the cutscene of him and Wilhelm. Your video on Cainhurst also really helped me understand that as I was going through it. I just got into this series when DS3 came out, and videos like yours and Vaati's convinced me to pick up Bloodborne after I finished my first Souls game. Thank you.

[@mitchl6896]

You're welcome!

[@AMoss248]

I like the clarification about being alive in a dream and being dead elsewhere, it's incredibly simple but I hadn't given it much thought. We have to touch the corpse of Mensis to enter his nightmare, and Maria tells us that a corpse should be left alone, either in an attempt to protect the hamlet or to warn you from your wanton exploration of dreams. Something that kind of throws things off for me though is that the Chalice dungeons aren't physically entered from what we consider "the waking world". No matter what, even if they are their own separate dreams, they're disjointed from the Hunters Nightmare so I suppose it still makes sense for Laurence to exist in three places simultaneously (skull in cathedral, fire cleric in nightmare, bloodletting beast in the dungeons). I guess I'm just confused as to what the chalice dungeons are or where and when the exist as opposed to Laurences supposed multiple appearances. Anyway great video as always, happy holidays mate.

[@mitchl6896]

Thank you, happy holidays to you as well! I think JSF explains that element of Laurence a lot better than I do. I know that Chalice Dungeons can be entered through the dream but I would argue that the Dungeons do physically exist underground *somewhere*.

[@lightningandodinify]

There seems to be two distinct strains of the old blood and a potential third. Laurence's strain causes lycanthropy while Cainhurst's strain causes vampirism. We can see correspondence of these effects from the blood vials we receive from Adella, Arianna, and Adeline. It makes sense that strains received from Adeline and Adella feature the same improved healing effect in contrast to the stamina improvement by Arianna's blood. Under Alfred's account, a Byrgenwerth scholar is responsible for the Vilebloods. This could mean that the Vilebloods possess the original strain from Byrgenwerth. This lines up with the similarities between the Pthumerians and the Vilebloods. Since we only know Laurence to have experimented with the blood, it's thus plausible that he is responsible for inventing the lycanthropy strain. Furthermore, the improved healing ability seems conducive to the goals of his church. The final supporting detail is how Laurence's church was able to produce a substance that is exclusively toxic to Vilebloods. I'm not sure if Laurence himself was responsible for this or whorver commissioned Ludwig was. While I think that the vampirism strain is the original one, I think it's possible Cainhurst has also experimented with the blood they took. This would suggest a third origin strain from Byrgenwerth but I don't have any evidence that indicates that Byrgenwerth produces beasts that are neither vampires nor lycanthropes, for that is exactly the kind of evidence we would require to reach this conclusion. In conclusion, Laurence is responsible for lycanthropy, and every "beast" is derived from his strain. Byrgenwerth and Cainhurst likely share the same strain that causes vampirism instead. The two strains theory is further supported by the fact that the healing church was able to produce a poison for the Vilebloods that didn't affect Yharnamites.

[@sebmata135]

Wow dude amazing video! The editing was great and that section in the middle with your Anakin kills the younglings in Old Yharnam was the best! You're definitely the best Bloodborne youtuber by presentation for sure

[@mitchl6896]

[@brycecramer9964]

It would be fascinating to see a video on Simon and Brador in the hunters night mare

[@natecorsn9097]

I think the trailer might be important. In the trailer, you can see that his supposed skull is in a dungeon, not the cathedral.

[@rileygorman3384]

I've had the theory that Laurence was a much more corrupt person that we first thought. He saw the opportunity to become a renown figure in Yharnam after discovering the blood, but since Willem was not for it, he took it to the School of Mensis where Micolash and his scholars had some sort of ailment (The ashen blood) that could be unleashed onto the people at the prospect of the old blood eradicating the ailment. Now whether Micolash was with that idea, or was possibly blackmailed into surrendering their disease (Mensis being a scientific institution would have been seen as controversial in their secular society) is up for interpretation, but Laurence must have thought he had it all figured out. That is until the true consequence of the blood ministration began to take form.

[@fripptricky5099]

Mitch, man, I'm really digging the attention to cinematography and editing in this one. Great job, my friend!

[@mitchl6896]

Thank you! Unfortunately I'm annoyed at myself for missing a certain detail of 8 mins of nothing at the end.... :P

[@fripptricky5099]

I know the feeling. A video I made had the tail end of noise toward the end of the Ludwig boss cutscene where you can hear me gaining insight. I didn't notice this until I published it online . . .

[@willbessing4846]

I found that theory of what a character may become in the hunter's nightmare is their own visual perspective on themselves a very interesting theory, after all it is in some cases a dream. I understand Laurence and Lady Maria on their visual perspective, but the one that catches my interest is Ludwig. I've seen the Ludwig video and loved it, but was curious about his mental perspective.

[@diegoarmando7262]

Ludwig is ashamed of what he've become, he was put aside etc...So I think it makes sense to him to be represanting in the nightmare as his beastly form, killing everybody who enters his cell, the beast taking over his mind for eternity... The Moonsword is the only thing capable of remembering him his glorious past as the holy blade, hero and first hunter of the healing church. Maria appears in the state she was during the attack on thé village probably, she feels guilty so it makes sense to find her where she killed herself, with her appearance from that shamefull night. Laurence is the more complicated one yes, my theory is that he really was the first Cleric Beast, killed by Brador. ( Maybe that's why he is kept in a cell, he killed the first vicar and knows too much so he remains hidden in the nightmare ) He appears in fire due to his guilt and failure about the old Yharnam. Everything is left to anybody's mind so...I suppose there are many acceptables theories.

[@willbessing4846]

@@diegoarmando7262 thanks for the info. I was definitely curious on the idea because Ludwig's beastly form is not just interesting, it's unique compared to the others. Design wise the beast forms are 100% abominations, but strangely there's an order to it(although that idea maybe stretching a bit). How ever, Ludwig's beast form is more chaotic than all the others.

[@diegoarmando7262]

@@willbessing4846 Yeah that's true. I think this choice of design for Ludwig helps to be empathetic. Ludwig the Holy Blade, the hero of the healing church, legendary hunter after Gehrman becoming the most ideous ans chaotic beast encountered in the game. Like a symbol of his downfall and his shame ( The fact that he seems to be melted with horses can be a hint at his "heroic holy knight" status in his past. It is ironic and a freaking good choice of design to keeping elements from his former self but this time to show them in a hideous and terryfing way ). His body is as chaotic as his mind, we see him first as the ugly beast he looks like and in Phase 2 we see him as the human and hero he was and still is deep inside thanks to his bond with the Moonlight Sword. I agree, they worked very well on Ludwig. From his design to the music, the voice actor, the boss fight...Just by looking at him you can make deductions, everything have a meaning. Ludwig probably is the most human beast we encountered throughout the game, despite his design being an absolute living nightmare. ( in a good way ahah ).

[@cissuperdroid]

Djura was once a Hunter, too... Back in Carim when he was MARVELOUS CHESTER!

[@arisniro3167]

Why do you make such awesome videos and only have 8,000 subscribers!? Great job as always, seriously, you're an awesome Bloodborne lore video maker. Oh and Merry Christmas. :)

[@mitchl6896]

Aris Niro thanks, you too!

[@darthnihilus7951]

Holy shit the John Williams score goes so well with this

[@alejandromiranda5908]

I just can say bravo for your videos and bravo for your deductions sir! Hope you continue doing such a good research and that you enjoy doing it as much as I like to watch this :)

[@mitchl6896]

as df thank you! I appreciate the feedback.

[@jayknight1099]

I think some more evidence to the Chalice dungeons being found physically would be the Tomb Prospector found down there.

[@TrumpCardMAGA]

I believe Laurence's name is a connection to my ideas of how the beast scourge actually works like a insect colony and the sense of smell. Above all other senses smell is one that is most used and most crucial in insect colonies. Pheromone trails are left by insects like bees and ants to lead others to food, water, or back to the nest. Also in some species it's the pheromone smell that can even do things like change the makeup of some of the hive if it is lacking in specific tasks. If a queen is lost the pheromone smell of healthy active potential mates that are unable to breed that work to unlocking a change in a normal larva into becoming a queen. I believe smell and the hive mentality is a large part of the beast plague in Bloodborne. Many know your a hunter or even that you are an hunter of the dream by calling you "moon scented" like those that share in blood ministration have heightened smell awareness of such things also sharing in a unseen bond like a hive. Also when you take on the thirds of the umbilical cord when the moon presence draws close I believe it's your smell that forced it to recoil and grow aggressive. Plus what keeps the beasts from entering the church (and a hint the beggar was a beast) is the smell of the burning incense that acts like a repellent. Also the way beasts alone seem animalistic and only using instincts, but when you come across beasts that had the insight thus got closer to the cosmos and great ones they seem more intelligent acting more with emotions and less like a rabid dog similar to how one ant isn't capable of much but the colony can accomplish great things. This is my thoughts on it and how Laurence ties in is I believe his name is meant to be a hint of the insect idea and a joke on the lore community how like a insect colony we each don't have much of an idea of what the story the lore is trying to tell us but as a networking community we have came up with many insightful ideas. That's right Laurence is meant to sound like "lore ants" working to piece together the stories told in the Soulsborne series. And yes that's a lot of work to end with a jokey pun but i regret nothing!

[@SugoiDesu1]

Love the use of Star Wars music! It really works!

[@silvertemplar8061]

Padme’s ruminations, very good choice for music for this video.

[@destruction42k]

Have a good Christmas Mitch L I have only just found your Lore vids! and let me just say your unique insight is a blessing to this community! Good Hunting±

[@mitchl6896]

Thank you!

[@EgoCityGamingUK]

Great video, love hearing about the lore of this game. Heads up though if you called something “10 a penny”, in the uk, that means they are cheap and shite.

[@dakarai47]

I really dislike Laurence being the bloodletting beast theory this theory was so popular and I always thought it was stupid. I personally think people just dont want to admit they are wrong there is little to absolutely no evidence Laurence is in anyway connected to the bloodletting beast and we see him in the dlc. It's just like when people still try to tell me ludwig is the cleric beast people cant let go of old and outdated theories. Just because we have a headless doesn't mean he is connected to the bloodletting beast they litesrly say he turned into a cleric beast.

[@Fartlickerfranklin]

They could be referring to the Fiery cleric beast he turns into in the Hunters Nightmare. While the laurence in the real world has become the bloodletting beast, i just dont like the idea of him being controlled by i giant ass parasite

[@Sparty450]

The Bloodletting beast is fought before with a head, something alot of people seem to forget. I also don't know how he would make it into a chalice dungeon after becoming a beast, not to mention his skull is very different in shape thab the Bloodletting Beast's head. He very much was just another cleric beast, though they could have at least gave him a unique looking cleric beast form like Amelia.

[@sablemae8853]

The chalice dungeons are farther back in time the deeper you go. That's why u fight queen yarhnam still being pregnant with mergo. The only other places we see her are in the lake by room which is like a nightmare pocket alternate plane of existence and in the nightmare menis which is another plane of existence. So with that logic we can think that the bloodletting beast could be Laurence also. He's headless. We know the head by vicar Amelia is his and looks more like the bloodletting beast than the cleric beast. We also know he went to the chalice dungeons looking for mergo to bring back the moon prescense and gerhman. So why can't he be both beasts? Also amygdala and room are found in the chalice's and their nightmare areas also. There's a lore reason for that and not just to fight cool bosses or recycled bosses because they were too lazy to create new bosses. So there's more characters/bosses in multiple places than just Laurence. It's not fool proof but the evidence shows it very well could be. Jsf has shown this evidence and communicates it better than me

[@osvaldoprado9906]

Laurence is the bloodleting beast, Solaire is the first born son of Gwyn and Shadows die twice is Bloodborne 2 xD

[@osvaldoprado9906]

@ThatDamnScottishGuy You are terribly...right. :D

[@sellyaconsole9316]

Shawty freaky as hell talking bout deepest n widest gratitude

[@alejandroreyes9574]

Saint Laurence sounds like a total badass with a beautiful sense of humor. Wish I could have met him.

[@mitchl6896]

That great friend who gives you money but also lets you roast him like there's no tomorrow.

[@alejandroreyes9574]

Mitch L That was awful

[@SinthetikLED]

why is there 10 minutes of nothing at the end?

[@mitchl6896]

That's my mistake, forgot to shorten Laurence's OST audio track. working 60 hour weeks plus doing YT will do that, unfortunately.

[@lordgiles1841]

Naaaa, you haven't enough insight to see the truth

[@draw2death421]

Sinthetik its 7 mins

[@carcasssouls9072]

Thank you Mitch, for this video! your lore videos are so great and in-depth, keep it up :)

[@edtate7467]

You can't tell me what to do, I'm watching all 7 mins for upcoming LORE

[@mitchl6896]

Edward Tate there's a hidden message in there, don't fucking miss it

[@mitchl6896]

Edward Tate also I thought you were BANNED

[@andreaselvarolo8395]

The 7 last minutes contain lore which we cannot see because we don't have enough insight 😭

[@lastexilegaming]

Maria had 2 Rakuyos made. She discarded the non blood bloodtinge version, and re took the later as a penance for her sin. Also Good job on the Vid.

[@Silentbob1494]

My dude, the Laurence that was slowly burning to death still cracking jokes. That's pretty badass.

[@liammcvea9859]

i'm still confused about how the Healing Church was truly founded. You say they came to Yharnam with blood. I thought Laurence and his people BUILT Yharnam, their city of blood. Also the fact that Miyazaki himself states, "[Laurence's] skull served as the start of the Healing Church itself."

[@Hugo_Tate]

last 7 minutes was mind blowing

[@tenbuhorin7807]

Very interresting theory relating "Laurence, the firts viccar" and "Laurence, the frst deacon of Rome". It seems to make sense!

[@aureliaromero8383]

Except the fact it explicitly says on the clothes and about Laurence that it was "a cleric beasts" scalp sooo

[@johntrains1317]

Your point?

[@PunkZombie1300]

3 years late but someone else replied 6 months ago so fuck it why not. A "cleric beast" isn't just a type of beast, like they don't all look like The Cleric Beast and Laurence. Ludwig and Vicar Amelia are also cleric beasts; it's just an (exceptionally grotesque, generally) beast that a cleric turned into.

[@balaam_7087]

15:48 laughed aloud, thought he said “feces” but he said “theses” XD

[@kingtabiso2012]

i just realized there's a piece from star wars episode 3

[@YashaFromRussia01]

DAAAAAAMN MITCH BACK AGAIN WITH THEM LORE FANS, SPINNING THOSE MADE STORY JAMS seriously this Laurentus revelation is super. i actually neglected Romw in my historical studies as I adored mythology more but I adore THIS connection. also you coming back to use of Soundtracks? amazing. just too bad BB doesnt have a free viewer! thank you for your awesome efforts brother, ya biggest dingus of a fan

[@mitchl6896]

Iakov Kurekhin BRRRRAP BRRRAP BRRRAP thanks for the support my dude, I was pretty amazed by the parallel with Saint L. Revenge of the Sith soundtrack is fucking LIT

[@DistantOnion]

Why is there 9 minutes of just a black screen at the end of the video?

[@mitchl6896]

That's my fuckup. Please forgive meh

[@CallanElliott]

I think it's for dat ad revenue....

[@PeacefulJoint]

Angry Irishman There's no ads on the video bruh

[@JusticeforLiberty]

Angry Irishman how he make revenue with no ads................

[@rhynlock11]

I always thought the skull in the cathedral was Ludwig's skull as it strongly resembles it horse like features

[@francescamagri4977]

It is

[@Elementroar]

big_boi Jeff It’s not.

[@francescamagri4977]

@@Elementroar oh yeah just noticed it's ludwig not laurence

[@GurenPlasma]

Fuck yes! Bloodborne lore vid! Merry Christmas to mah boi Mitch!

[@deegee6122]

nice vid. i just want to comment as to brador being an assassin who took out laurence. in your video, you didn't go over any possible motivations or indeed who may have hired brador/ordered the death of laurence, although it appears you make an allusion to the coup that takes place earlier in the vid. i'm just wishing a more direct and comprehensive discussion of this would have accompanied the piece on brador, and linking to the cult of mensis' infiltration of the choir, the formation of the executioners and their war with the vilebloods of cainhurst, and the destruction of the original workshop and killing of gherman, maria, and their hunters. otherwise, a very strong vid

[@ibn_adham]

Gehrman was never killed before the events of the game, he's in the dream...

[@Fartlickerfranklin]

Consilium Pacis “hes in the dream” where else is he in the game?

[@ibn_adham]

@@Fartlickerfranklin Dee Gee said that Gehrman was killed in the destruction of the original workshop. I said that is not true, because he is alive in the dream

[@septon4087]

@@ibn_adhammicolash is dead but he's alive in the nightmare. It's possible that gherman's body rotted away but he lives in the dream

[@samwheller]

Brilliant stuff. Really enjoying your channel Sir.

[@dravenocklost4253]

For that Star Wars bit with Djura, you get a like. Very nice.

[@monroerobbins7551]

One thing though: don’t you find the bloodletting beast with its head? Why would the waking world Lawrence have a bloodletting beast form with a head, when his head is supposed to be kept as a holy artifact?

[@itsy00]

Hearing Anakin's Dark Deeds so suddenly was amazing 🤣 It fits so well.

[@tylerreid2700]

Also the statue at the top of the alter you get lawrences skull from is headless, pouring what may be blood to the worshippers before... coincidence to our own bloodletting beast?

[@shadow85553]

Can I just point out that the way you made your character look to reflect your interpretation of Laurence looks remarkably like Redgrave. :) I dunno if it was intentional or not but considering he did a lot of theorizing about him back in the day I think that's a neat comparison.

[@mitchl6896]

Completely by accident, lol. That's just how I imagined Laurence to look. There's also no too much fan art of Laurence to look at and get inspo from, unfortunately.

[@valvenis95]

Just wondering are you done making bloodborne lore videos I seriously enjoy your videos about the lore of everything bloodborne has to offer

[@DaGirlzGoCrazy]

Great video as always man, keep it up!

[@johnyoung3459]

Guess who just got back today, them wild eyed boys that’d been away

[@adamfishon1]

this is awesome! amazing work!

[@mitchl6896]

Adam Fisher glad you enjoyed!

[@ianskiver6246]

I agree with the rest that star wars music fit these lore vids very well

[@Nikiboo32]

the song playing in the back ground i recognize it. good choice

[@bradleyallen6883]

I know this may be a stretch, but if it contains any truth, it could implicate several new theories. The "parasite" inside the Bloodletting Beast resembles a large vermin. It seems you collect vermin from greater beast and those that most likely received blood administration. You find the Bloodletting Beast deep within the dungeons, so it had plenty of time to feed and grow. Maybe Valtr understands this, which is why he implores you to collect and destroy them. Who knows though, just a thought.

[@AnonYmous-ux7vx]

it doesnt, the parasite in the headless bloodletting beast looks like a worm/maggot, if you read the description of vermin it states "creature that resembles a centipede" and if you look at the picture of the vermin, that and the parasite within the bloodletting beast look nothing alike

[@AntAskew]

New to your channel! Good stuff man :D The Laurence fight is one of the hardest of the souls borne series for me!

[@craignaylor2648]

Love watching this guy just get wrecked in the background

[@AudioHalo]

I love the Star Wars KOTOR score playing in the background

[@LairdWackyla]

I left this playing in the background while working, and though I was hearing the theme from my computer fans!

[@LSB44446]

Mitch you use a lot of Revenge of the Sith music lol

[@mitchl6896]

LoganSoulsBorne4 it's my jam

[@slightlytwistedagain]

I not buying into Laurence being the bloodletting beast. Biggest thing for me is the fact that the beast embrace rune transforms you into a beast similar to the cleric beast. I also think that Fromsoft wouldn't have gone through the trouble of new animations for the cleric beast. As for the skull I think this is more down to Fromsoft not planning ahead much like the Nameless King statue. Also the headless bloodletting beast parasite reminds me of those worms that come from the sliverbeasts.

[@mitchl6896]

I don't buy into it 100% myself, believe me. It's a very shady area of the story and I'm not perfectly confident in saying it one way or the other. This is generally why I like to stick to the more confirmable aspects of the lore, instead of the speculative stuff. That being said, an episode on Paleblood is coming up.

[@slightlytwistedagain]

Mitch L looking forward to it.

[@christopherhicklin]

using my understanding of Bloodbornes story, which is limited, I have made a list of who I think are the most important human characters. 1: Laurence 2: Master Willem 3: Carol 4: Gherman 5: Ludwig 6: Lady Maria 7: Micholash This list is not perfect I'd love to see your lists.

[@zakbloodstone2901]

I Love That You Used Anakin's Dark Deeds In This!!! Excelente Chose Of Music.

[@BLung-tq2mm]

good to see u back again...my main man Mitch

[@sebproud]

Weird thing but the most replayed part of the video is there at 27:09

[@thegamingpost1794]

Very detailed and well-thought video, Laurence is definitely one of the more interesting as well as tragic bloodborne characters, though, if you think about it, almost all the characters in bloodborne are tragic in a way :D

[@JuanitoJohnes53]

love your videos man!

[@AbsurdoSol]

I’m confused as to how Laurence could be the blood letting beast. He is called the first Cleric beast and the blood letting beasts appearance is very different. If the theory that Brador killed Laurence is true, the garb he wears is of a true horned Cleric beast, not the primate Beast letting one. Also the blood letting beast’s head is in tact in the first encounter only to lose it later.

[@HeatherHolt]

Holy sht this video is amazing

[@FloralDinosaur]

The only conclusion i can make from this is secret eldritch dungeon under pisa

[@kimjongwin]

yes!! more bloodbourne lore

[@AIONBERSERKER]

Great work on these vids bro. Thanks for the info!

[@judeolsen6016]

Laurence fr got the best lore in the game

[@natecorsn9097]

I think his human skull isn t his skull at all. It says that it is there to symbolize something.

[@eldergranpower]

This video confirms a very old theory: Star Wars OST goes well with pretty much anything!

[@sanemaniakmind]

the inhabitants of the cathedral ward are not sarcastic, they are drunk off that blood, the first guy even hiccupped. its giving crack head admiration of someone giving them a dollar they begged for knowing they about to get high, like very thankful in a way thats off putting ,mostly cause they are already high.

[@icntsywhtiwnt2]

I'm loving your videos. Not that it's a competition, but I think your vids are superior to VV.

[@mavezy]

Could the entrance to a chalice dungeon be below the leaning tower of pisa!

[@PeacefulJoint]

Well it does have catacombs below it which are similar.......

[@baronvonfaust]

@@PeacefulJoint... anyone know how to get a saw cleaver through customs?

[@ianskiver6246]

I love the star wars music in the background

[@KomboKong]

When I heard the music from starwars I shit myself. Very fitting