How Urban Design Keeps South Africa Segregated

[@UnCoolDad]

ANC have been in power since 1994. Seems nothing has changed. The one thing that is the same is who to blame.

[@ItmeAno]

Uk

[@shrek769]

"Nothing has changed" things have gotten worse in a lot of ways, not much progress has been made elsewhere, and corruption is endemic. South Africa needs an alternative to the ANC that won't loot the county

[@romeuvanelli8666]

It has changes a lot, a lot worse 🤡

[@marcust8955]

The video literally shows the access to electricity went from 60% to 90% and more people have access to sanitation. You didn't pay attention to anything in the video

[@UnCoolDad]

@@marcust8955 Let me introduce a term that may be new to you - "load shedding". It is killing the economy and is due to poor planning & corruption over the past 25 years.

[@Gustav_Smit]

Guess who's going to vote ANC in upcoming election: poor people living in townships

[@akhodiko]

in all fairness, who put them there in the first place? Cant just look at one end of the stick

[@bulelanibotman]

have you considered why? you'd think they'd vote for a white person / party?

[@biggeststeppa1]

@@akhodiko well they keep voting to be there.

[@kaidenchetty4572]

@@bulelanibotmanda isn’t only white my guy. Look at the chief whip and deputy president etc. also anc has delivered nothing look at WC versus rest of s.a with crime stats potholes and cleanliness and you’ll see

[@JansenduPlessis]

There's no justifications for voting ANC. If you do then you can't complain about being poor because that's on you. It's no one's else's fault only your own stupidity.

[@Re_RAM]

So why has govt failed to change apartheid spatial planning in 30 years?

[@kgopotsomojela1997]

Because of democracy, it doesn't work for a developing nation.

[@kiuk_kiks]

Embezzlement & corruption plus a need to protect the wealthy.

[@shrek769]

The perpetuation of its legacy helps the ANC stay in power. They promise to fix the nation's issues, they don't, and then they promise to fix them again to get re-elected, all the while corruptly stealing from the nation and its peoples behind their backs

[@timd7]

Because they also profit of cheaper labour 🤷

[@Re_RAM]

@@timd7 how?

[@Geometric-Rate]

Stop blindly voting ANC. Others parties need a chance

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

To eat?

[@boiells4191]

@@sibongisenikhumalo8198 what?

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

@@boiells4191 they need a chance to what vele?

[@theuglykwan]

I don't think voting in another party will really change things. There would need to be a huge reset. A small chunk ownn the vast majority of wealth. Historically that situation will not change without some drastic action.

[@sibongisenikhumalo8198]

@@boiells4191 whatever ANC has been eating for the past 3 decades

[@oliverroberts1076]

Stop voting for the ANC then.

[@boiells4191]

Fr bro

[@JohnDoe-ro1jw]

It's that easy neh

[@rsstone7192]

The problem is the old people who don't want to leave the ANC because tge ANC is the one who saved them from the white man

[@shanegedula8183]

But when our people vote EFF you would still have a problem with it

[@richarddeerflame]

need to vote for a government that wants Everyone to be well. In whatever way that is... Since 1994.. nothing has been done by government to build brick homes ... but also consider this.......... population explosion in SA ... how can anyone deal with population explosion and who is going to pay for it all?

[@kdawggg2413]

This is a class issue at this point, there are more rich black people in South Africa than almost anywhere else in the world, the rest is just the failure of government to secure borders and aid the development of the poorest South African citizens.

[@icetrip2417]

True as well

[@shauncameron8390]

Mostly ANC loyalists.

[@michaelgodden7187]

You forgot the self enrichment of the ANC cadres.

[@richarddeerflame]

True and its all colors and races... poor is not color any more... its only population unbalance that shows Africans being more poor but thats not true when you look at other people in SA who are poor...

[@lamontkhoza2856]

This is an issue not unique to South Africa. Wealth inequality is rising everywhere in liberal democracies. It's a lot more pronounced and racialised in our country because of our history.

[@zat0076]

that country is just sitting on a time bomb

[@sykewtf9820]

Why do you say so?

[@calvinhoward3808]

@@sykewtf9820 the music is dramatic

[@mechailreydon3784]

Then again people have been saying that since the 80s

[@thandisilec835]

Lol I was born 2002 and ppl have been saying that since& no SA isn’t a time bomb, it’s working to fix itself. You don’t fix what was built over hundreds of year in less than a generation ie 33years

[@theflowpowa42oshow]

​@@thandisilec835 Booyakasha Booyakasha! Tell um!

[@blaqued5186]

It's not just the government that's a problem. As a black person myself I've noticed a few problems with black South Africans; 1 They don't care about building environments that are conducive to growth for the next generation. 2 They stick to their tribal beliefs, meaning they believe in different things and I've never heard of a successful country with fractured beliefs. 3. They care more about being respected than doing what is right. 4. They give terrible service to each other within their businesses. I could keep going, but these points are enough.

[@clownbooface2624]

@blaqued5186 100% right, black mentality, look at me and what ive got, look at all my stuff

[@michaelgodden7187]

Spot on. Despite numerous corruption cases, and being responsible for state capture 15% of South Africans voted for Zuma and MK.

[@phiwazulu1662]

​@@michaelgodden7187how can there been state capture when 80% of the country's wealth in controlled by Whites? You mean State Capture was done by Whites?

[@vteck9]

They've had 30 years to fix this. When do we stop blaming things on the past and realize they do this to themselves

[@sakhilemabilane6111]

I agree with the first part of the message, but the last part is a simple minded and lacks serious critical thinking about the situation. Fixing the mess that is South Africa was always though tasks and for the first 15 years the ANC was doing a decent job at that, the last 15 have been awful.

[@nlocnil3602]

Who is "they"?

[@HOPCOUNT]

Who is they?

[@devol_1]

deep down you probably wish it would come back. "They".. seriously ?

[@quannguyen2899]

​@@cchris5958 30 years is enough to change everything. Many countries went from 3rd world to 1st world in just 30 years time.

[@lungelomntungwa934]

30 years in power and this is what ANC has to show? I’m glad the people have given them less then 50 %. 30 years we are still talking Apartheid? Argh man

[@aarongunnz9513]

That's gud that they are waking up. But it is late

[@norfillyson]

30 years is really not that long. How long have the white minority been in control of SA pre 1996?

[@saleveniqinisondzimandze6043]

Imagine 🚮

[@herdarkesttdesire]

we have to keep talking about apartheid, because some of still lay in it's ruins

[@lungelomntungwa934]

@@herdarkesttdesire let us look at 30 year between South Africa and Rwanda, different policies different outcomes. Once you entertain looting, corruption and no accountability you will fail and continue to blame apartheid.

[@annakat3754]

Segregation is important and should be standard across the world where blacks and whites live.

[@shaunm8692]

Yes correct

[@maleselamolepo6475]

The current government still hasn’t helped SA get forward, so the issue also lies there! 👎

[@vitornuevo]

This is no longer about race but social level (money) rich versus poor, all developing countries have the same problem at different levels, I know a lot of rich black people Living very well in South Africa.

[@SP95]

Now let's see how they all made their wealth

[@sykewtf9820]

​@@SP95Not all of them got wealthy through the means you think they've gotten.

[@shauncameron8390]

Thanks to being politically well-connected.

[@paulrichards6283]

​@@shauncameron8390👏👏👏

[@tv_agenda]

so few even you know them, this "rich black people Living very well" 🤣

[@ЦзинКэ-ы5х]

But a situation like that isn't SA's-specific. It's very common in South America, where there were no apartheid regimes.

[@SurfersCornerMuiz]

It's not apartheid it is corrupt thieving leaders, who hide behind apartheid which does not exist except for BBEEE.

[@LocalEdits_v8j]

If you have a corrupt government it will be the situation

[@PhakimpiDubois-rf8bz]

Apartheid is just jargon for neo colonialism under Afrikaner rule, all of South America experienced colonialism and if we look at the case of Brazil the spatial situation is very similar to South Africa, the people who reside in the favelas are the black people and the white Brazilian s live nice lives in suburbs.

[@fluidee]

As a black south african, I'd like to point out that, Just under 5% of the population lives in informal settlements, with the majority of them leaving formal structure homes, motivated by the belief that this will expedite their access to government housing subsidies. The video exaggerates inequality by highlighting and contrasting the most extreme examples, thereby reinforcing a misleading narrative of white monopoly control. You are dividing us and fueling hate and resentment.

[@ohlangeni]

You are talking about Squater camps. Townships are the legacy of Apartheid. That is the Spatial planning this documentary is talking about. It is what keeps Black people poor, and far away from town and industrial areas

[@tutumazibuko2510]

@@ohlangeni ngiyabonga. I thought I was going going crazy when I read the nonsense that person wrote

[@fluidee]

@tutumazibuko2510 zithi mzala la ekhanda, ake uzame o dokotela bengqondo bathi ukukcwaninga kahle la ekhanda. Angazi noma ukuhlanya noma uhlulwa ukufunda isingisi.

[@fluidee]

@ohlangeni I'm referring to the content in the video, which shows an informal settlement right next to a vibrant neighborhood. It's not just about the discussion; the content creates visual cues, depicting extreme inequality as if it represents the whole picture.

[@shanegedula8183]

​@@ohlangeniHe's too slow for you this one

[@Onelove-Oneheart-h4c]

Mandela like MLK had dreams, not plans

[@oraschannel]

they were just dreamers and not planners

[@kent4239]

Brilliant

[@thato596]

Their plans made a bit of a difference, it's your turn to take over and bring a change

[@aarongunnz9513]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@adammmmmWWW]

MLK did have a plan, socialism lol that’s why they murdered him

[@EskeAndersen]

If you think the cause of South Africa's problems is "Apartheid spatial planning", you're so horribly naive that it makes me want to weep for humankind.

[@aarongunnz9513]

Tru Apartheid didn't build Nkandla Apartheid didn't stuff dollars in the sofa Apartheid didn't milk SOE's

[@wenkosii_mx]

Kindly tell us what the cause is.

[@lamontkhoza2856]

@@wenkosii_mx Wealth inequality which the spatial planning does actually play into. OP might just be naive or an apologist for the old government. Regardless, the current problem in this country is wealth inequality

[@peterlouw7571]

Blame the ANC for not formalising informal settlements, they could have done so much to address this.

[@aarongunnz9513]

They won't, cos they want it that way.

[@Djek2e32]

00:00:01 Challenges in Post-Apartheid South Africa 00:02:41 Apartheid and its Impact in South Africa 00:05:17 Inequity in Post-apartheid South Africa 00:06:58 Post-Apartheid Housing Initiatives 00:08:44 Challenges in townships 00:10:07 Challenges and Progress in Post-Apartheid South Africa The fastest way to absorb knowledge | Lilys AI

[@thandisilec835]

What you failed to mention is that a lot of these informal settlements(slums) have immigrants from rest of continent building them and living there. Majority isn’t SAn citizens so it’s foreign ppl not eligible for housing adding to urban squalor. Townships is where you find majority Black SAns which are still rough hoods but you can see improvements and development there

[@biggeststeppa1]

This is the most delusional comment I've ever read!

[@sakhilemabilane6111]

This is a lie. You either have never been in an informal settlement or just a spreading propaganda

[@felixdatche9278]

interest lies...and jokes

[@bevs9995]

@@biggeststeppa1 explain

[@biggeststeppa1]

@@bevs9995 I know South Africa is full of migrants, both legal and illegal. But govt stats say around 5.x million South Africans live in shanty towns - what's being implied here is that basically all migrants live there. At most it's maybe 40 to 60% - even that's most likely a gross exaggeration

[@user-cg3uy2gl3u]

Who is the young dude who escaped poverty? He is extremely well spoken

[@AlbertBormant]

The third largest political party in the country (the EFF) wants to do the same type of ethnic cleansing Zimbabwe did around 2000.

[@tatendamuza6182]

I'm a Zimbabwean so when you say ethnic cleansing by Zimbabwe maybe you should be specific. Anyways...empower your black people and give them land before they have no other option but to take actions similar to what happened in Zimbabwe. Just let go go of a little instead of losing it all 😂😂

[@shrek769]

​@@tatendamuza6182Zimbabwe quickly came to regret its actions, it would be very inadvisable to go that route

[@AL-lh2ht]

@@tatendamuza6182you make literal genocide sound so moral.

[@tatendamuza6182]

First of all, encouraging the white minority to come to terms with giving land to people who deserve it and from a heritage perspective is theirs is not genocide. Secondly, genocide is such a strong word you need to go look it up. Third which is worrying and why white South Africans will find they may lose out on everything, is that you guys don't admit even after so many years that you took people's land. Zimbabwe is a bad example of how to do it. But i doubt there is any better way. Especially when one group people feels they can't let go and even share fairly. In short, I'm not advocating for violent land grabs. I'm encouraging you to find ways to actively empower the black majority before alternatives like EFF look very attractive to the poor black population. Lastly ...the Zim story would have been way way different without sanctions. But that's a topic for another day.

[@pjacobsen1000]

@@tatendamuza6182 "you guys don't admit even after so many years that you took people's land". Does the current population of Zimbabwe admit that they themselves took the land from the original inhabitants, the Khoi and San peoples, when you migrated into Zimbabwe 1,500 years ago? You weren't the first, either.

[@jimbrutan_senior]

Eventually we will see Israel-Palastine situation, where the Whites will forcefully want to separate themselves and create another country within South Africa.

[@opensprings]

It's already happening. Look up Orania.

[@kodishang]

And please don't forget the 700 Billion that went missing under Cyril Ramaphosa...

[@CitiesForTheFuture2030]

Lots to unpack with a long history behind it, and lots of broken promises by political gov at national, provincial & local level. 1. Under apartheid, black people were given land in rural SA with most "white" people living in cities... where the jobs are. Black SAs have a long history of migrating to cities to earn a living & supporting family back home. Here grandparents raise the grandchildren. 2. While this is starting to change (global urbanisation trends) many Black SAs prefer to live as cheaply as possible as who can afford to purchase & run 2 homes? They also want to send as much money home as possible, and wages are very low in SA. 3. SA has many immigrants from around Africa - they also work in SA to support family at home and very few people can afford to purchase & run 2 homes. 4. When apartheid collapsed, the ANC promised to build all Black SAs a house but this did not materialize for many reasons incl. corruption. 5. Housing is the jurisdiction of national gov who allocate land & conduct social housing projects. Social housing is often of poor quality far from job centres, with few amenities & urban services (essentially little boxes on a hillside far from anything). However I am always amazed that there is always land available for retirement homes for rich people. 6. And yes, apartheid urban planning sought to separate the poor (mostly black) from middle & high income suburbs. But then that is true in many parts of the world (eg red lining in the usa). 5. Housing - as in many parts of the world - is a major issue with fewer & fewer people being able to afford a home of their own. 6. Under apartheid White SA were able to amass generational wealth, but Black SAs are beginning to catch up. However wages & salaries have not kept pace with inflation and many people, even those with jobs, are struggling to find affordable housing (buy or rent). This is a global issue. 7. SA cities are sprawling and public transit is sporadic & doesn't service all areas. SAs that live in suburbs have to own a car to go anywhere (it's also very unsafe to walk or cycle) - this is very expensive, adding pressure to shrinking budgets. 8. Creating compact, integrated, inclusive, safe, sustainable, affordable, gender sensitive, child friendly, resilient, climate ready, beautiful cities requires strategic & purposeful planning, development & management. SA cities are crumbling & decaying, even the rich areas, due to neglect & bad governance. 9. 80 - 90% of people will live in cities by 2050 with the highest rates of urbanisation occurring in developing countries. There are ways to provide social housing while densifying cities, but I don't think our politicians are particularly interested - want to amass power & influence for themselves, families & cronies (as in other parts of the world eg usa, uk etc). 10. Crime & corruption is having a devastating impact on our enviro, economy, socio-cultural systems awa our quality of life - for everybody. But it's usually the poor & vulnerable who are affected first & hardest. The hope was that the new SA gov would create a great SA for ALL SAs, but state capture has set progress back decades. Hope is fading.

[@michaelgodden7187]

11. The taxi mafia destroy any type of alternative transport that is attempted. They like having a captive audience in the townships. This is a $5 billion cash industry, the ANC and EFF get their cut, in return they get political protection for all their crimes.

[@mikestone8461]

blaming racist city planning? you serious? these ANC idiots ran their country and people into the ground and here bloomberg is talking about racist city urban planning.....what BS.

[@sladoid]

Joke's on them, everyone is created equal, not everyone lives the same.

[@tv_agenda]

says a white man

[@Alphabobby]

This is a financial segregation not racial segregation

[@bulelanibotman]

haibo! the interview just gave you the reasons why its racial segragation and you want to dispute that?

[@BS-cc4ks]

@@bulelanibotman Given that there are rich black communities with the same things applied to the white communities? Yes.

[@Tembo_Leonardo]

I'm Zambian but the level of inequality in South Africa is infuriating

[@ericksalinas6976]

Watching SA now, I think apartheid wasn´t too bad if we compare it with today's crisis.

[@norfillyson]

It wasn't too bad if you were white

[@isoboy1000]

I rather live in a country where i have a fair chance to do it for myself, under apartheid i won't even be allowed to dream big and do it for myself.

[@andrebuys4814]

​@@isoboy1000, you would have had a fair chance if you stayed in black governed areas. But most people moved to white areas due it being the only places where there was economic growth.

[@tayhotty420]

The ANC doesn't care about the people

[@nortonsparkles7057]

Why in your right mind would you vote for loadshedding?

[@rsstone7192]

Because the old people in SA don't want to leave the ANC

[@BS-cc4ks]

It prevents catastrophic failures in energy grids. Better to have an inconsistent grid than a non-existent one.

[@Hacks4U-b5b]

Why didnt those people go build in all the vacant land in south africa?... They just want to live like that, be close to everything that was already built instead of building their own communities... Thats not poverty thats laziness

[@shaunm8692]

Exactly

[@massagerepublic7563]

African in South Africa are the poorest on the African continent or even the entire world. That poverty is worse than the one in Haiti

[@manovrsb]

I doubt that in South Africa there is an access to wealthy and opportunities to operate in wealthier communities in Haiti most of the wealth is cut off and far away from the poor as the rich often keep the earnings overseas

[@isoboy1000]

Really? so why are other Africans running to SA without documents, while SA blacks are not bothering anyone? stop with your ignorance SA come third behind US and Brazil with the highest number of black middle class.

[@aynrandfan7454]

Stayed in camps bay during my trip to Cape Town and visited a couple of townships … holy the difference is insane

[@m.a.n.m.a.g]

Camps Bay doesn’t even feel like It in Africa huh?

[@aarongunnz9513]

Those people in township, came running from horrors of ANC in eastern Cape

[@Ritesh-yy1zr]

@@aarongunnz9513 lol and then say Western Cape is racist

[@aarongunnz9513]

@@Ritesh-yy1zr they are conditioned to accuse DA of racism

[@mundrakeshav22]

So what did the current government do for so many years then?

[@raybod1775]

Steal for themselves.

[@seanpetaia]

Nothing of course. 😂

[@seanpetaia]

@@Abstractpossom 50 years later with out nothing. lol

[@janomesteve3129]

Blame the ANC

[@Ritesh-yy1zr]

Simple

[@peace6325]

There is no way around it. There is a considerable difference in value systems in the different classes. The radical differences preferred by a small centre group on the left, drag down and keep black South Africans oppressed. Victim mentality is rampant and the easier option. But that being said, the coin has two sides. Always. Nothing is merely absolute truth.

[@peterhar74]

Black South Africans keep voting for the ANC expecting a different outcome - madness

[@shelbynamels7948]

I know at least one of them who was smart and got out. Trevor Noah now lives and works in the US. In fact, he just inked a deal on a multi-million dollar property.

[@Seeta_sa_gauta]

Just one 😂

[@ArnoSnyman007]

It is now segregated by socioeconomic status and not by race anymore. The black middle class is larger than the entire white population, and the black upper class is bigger than the white middle or upper class. You will find that most of those nice suburbs bordering on townships are predominately black, because of white flight. There are a few white squatter camps, but of course the townships are predominantly black. The policies that were designed for the 'previously-disadvantaged' are not benefiting the currently-disadvantaged, but only the rich black elite. That is why not much has changed. If the policies were aimed at anyone (irrespective of race) with a poor socioeconomic status, you would start to see a change, but the ANC has no interest in creating competition for themselves.

[@jbchester-fx5gf]

this country was better of in Apartheid. Now all government based utilities are dead in the water. Can not blame Apartheid forever. The government should start tanking responsibility of their actions.

[@AllfretÉNewmun]

Nonsense. The shack housing became a problem after the ANC took office and land was grabbed to built a shack. If you look at Brazil and other central American countries it looks the same. If a piece of land is unlawfully occupied, no proper planning, no services what you see will be the result. Why did government not deliver on it's promise of building houses? The "managed" this problem with "expropiration without compensation" promises. The State is the largest land owner....why do they not make it available. Why dont you guys make a documentary of white squatter camps and tell us how this came about?

[@shaunm8692]

Exactly

[@xXstevilleXx]

I wish for one moment these news media outlets consider the white minority of South Africa, but no. See if this was any other country they would have considered this, but no, not South Africa, I am done being idle, done tolerating this never ending hurl of imprecations and callousness. BUT we had our national elections and the party responsible from fracturing this society and caused the level of damage to infrastructure is not longer.... I shall remember these insults. Frankly I am tired of this needless deprecating negativity. In a few years this will make sense

[@esgee3829]

the "access to electricity" chart is hilarious. do the same one with "access to electricity that is switched on for 24 hours per day". lol. too bad money wasn't spent on infrastructure and education.

[@longiusaescius2537]

Have to push their religion

[@biggeststeppa1]

It's switched on for 24 hours per day

[@esgee3829]

@@biggeststeppa1 oh i get it you got an inverter and battery cool cool cool

[@jonuonouhuhygtvgvgvhgb]

They forgot to mention that the transport cost is R1000 but the informal settlements do not pay a cent for services like water , lights or rates which is being paid for in Midrand , unfortunately the two sides of a story will never be shown

[@Samuftie]

So the answer is: 8:30 basically not enough (adequate) facilities and amenities inside the townships? This established a non nurturing environment for the residents and is halting people's growth.

[@BontleHlongwane]

This is nonsense. Speaking as a South Africa.

[@la-ry1ms]

And how come AnC hasnt addressed this problem of informal settlement in almost 40 years

[@zwaiii7572]

growing up in the townships I realize I've never passed or be in a coloured neighborhood

[@ruandemeyer2497]

Different in cultural intelligence, some gain some lose

[@justin5538]

nobody talks about overpopulation aswell. This being a big part of an already big problem. Do not have 6 kids if you can only afford to raise 1.

[@Ritesh-yy1zr]

Child grants

[@alarara9400]

Important to note that at 7:30: the goals of the RDP were quickly watered down and eventually abandoned by the ANC (in favor of the NDP) within a few years after coming to power.

[@Victor-lc3pw]

Poor neighborhood THembisa near Johannesburg - 593$/month. Teacher in Russia - 200$/month

[@Waldemarvonanhalt]

Without freedom of association, there is no social contract.

[@dewayneblue1834]

Once a modern, wealthy country, South Africa is now falling apart, just like everyone predicted it would years ago.

[@sagesse9551]

Our mothers fault we poor, our mothers have many children by different men, leaving us boys to look after how many siblings, stealing our childhood from us, making us resentful through hardships and struggles, it not white mans fault

[@archaeomaps9686]

It's called urban sprawl and it's directly linked to the increasing impoverishment of rural South Africa over the last three decades

[@opedsk]

Sore losers will Always play the victim card 😂

[@LocalEdits_v8j]

“In order to escape accountability for his crimes, the perpetrator does everything in his power to promote forgetting. If secrecy fails, the perpetrator attacks the credibility of his victim. If he cannot silence him absolutely, he tries to make sure no one listens.” - Judith Lewis Herman

[@Dn_n]

A country where Elon musk ran away

[@presh804]

After benefiting from the spoils of cheap, black labour under apartheid 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@raybod1775]

He didn’t run away, Musk came to U.S. because of lack of value of human life in South Africa and opportunity to keep most of what he earns in U.S.

[@tobiisiba1641]

Did he start any company in south Africa where he explored black labour.​@@presh804

[@ugoekwegh4581]

​@@raybod1775 lies

[@Nswix]

Can’t blame him. He did what all South Africans dream of.

[@Drunken_Master]

Who, in his right mind, would want to live among the blacks.

[@WarframeAccount-cg1pf]

This comment screams racism

[@asadelmalikphd]

This video has been on KZbin for years. Why does it keep popping up on different channels?

[@rochfryd]

It's so sad. The big question is why they spend thier time, money and efforts on supporting the terror organisation Hamas, instead of treating thier own problems? Shame...

[@MrHeavy466]

SA has a way bigger problem than just the terrible urban planning.

[@jabulanithema1467]

Informal settlements are not Townships. Townships are formal and approved. Some people move from rural areas and establish informal settlements, just like in USA where people who don't afford rental live in the street. It doesn't matter how many house are built by government. Beneficiaries rent them out to migrant labors from other Provinces and African countries, and they move on to occupy land and create more informal settlement. Some has nice houses in rural areas.

[@MrMountainchris]

Same as in the US, the segregation is officially gone, but it's so baked into the system it's gonna take decades more to get rid of it all.

[@thato596]

South Africa is in this mess because of apartheid. anc did not kill and steal land and forced people into poverty and informal settlements and paid low salaries. The responsibility of anc party because they are in government is to fix the injustices of colonisation/apartheid. But the fixing will not be simple

[@adurpandya2742]

Finally, there’s some economic honesty.

[@buhlebenkosixozwa]

Its easier to get rid of an old era but its harder to build a new one.

[@Ferdilicious13]

What about all the poor teenagers that get children for the $20 a month state grant?

[@kwameadoko9542]

It's challenging to break this cycle of segregation. Because white people wanted the opportunities available to black people but did not want to live with them, black communities began forming around white areas. This scenario is prevalent in many South African cities and townships, making it difficult to address.

[@posthocprior]

IMO, 30 years is a relatively short time from "independence". That is, it takes most countries much, much longer to learn from their mistakes and implement the right policies. The problem, however, is political instability. These initial policy mistakes may lead to a distrust of any government solution. Also, India is a good example of what I'm referring to. 30 years after independence, it was still very much learning of how to run the country. Most news reports of India, in the 70s and 80s, were about how dysfunctional the country was. Now, 76 years after independence, a majority of Indians say the country is on the right track; and there are infrastructure projects which would have been difficult to imagine 30 years after independence, such as replacing the slum dwellings in most cities with housing, schools, and other infrastructure. But -- my point -- India's policy mistakes during its first decades of independence didn't lead to a fall of democracy or a series of coups. This may have been the key of why India was able to experiment with many policy models and politicians before it found one that could help its economy grow and slowly lift itself out of poverty.

[@dawn_alex]

Exactly. One thing India focused during the first decades was to acquire food security. Then they venture in to pharmaceuticals and made it secure. After liberalistaion it was a steady growth, now becoming the fidth largest economy. Soon to become third by 2027- IMF report. Currently the fastest growing economy. Ofcourse poverty still exists, but they are improving at a fast rate. For eg. recently India eradicated extreme poverty in the country. Now the nation is building incredible infra. Hope INDIA and SA cooperate more. For a better future. 🍃

[@LocalEdits_v8j]

The country needs a trustworthy government! One that will put systems & measures in place to ensure integrity & transparency when it comes to state funds

[@Reformed322]

A decade and 27 billion will make a country look like that. Blame the government, voters, that’s the answer.

[@danielazouri4678]

the government critisizes israel to avert attention from their own problems

[@HolloMatlala1]

2:14 Townships are still modern day Poverty Estates with 1 way IN and 1 way OUT roads systems....After 30 years of Gatekeeping

[@duran9664]

⁉️What if.. ⁉️ Some of this segregation is actually self-segregation ⁉️🤷‍♀️

[@smallscaleminingsupplies9670]

I met a white South African in Tanzania and the guy was amazed how many businesses we run, to me it seems the guy had no idea black people can run such businesses

[@xelthiavice4276]

whitees work hard always have done. others not so much

[@thikolelwirinahramulifho5691]

True. Here the white men run and own the banks, the port, the hotels, agriculture etc...all the big ones

[@shaunm8692]

This is not “Apartheid” legacy - liars!!!

[@kylehansbrockmann848]

Who's making R100,000 a month in Parkview? Oh, nvm; "2011 data." Yeah, that makes sense. Before Zuma trashed the economy.

[@raybod1775]

Stop blaming what happened 30 years ago, blames 30 years of incompetent government.

[@LocalEdits_v8j]

Its both! But the worst is from the past 30yrs cos it’s a government doing it to its own, the apartheid government was very transparent in who they were, they never lied! They delivered the best services to their ppl, something the ANC refuses to do for their own

[@RatTerminator]

Blame ur Corrupt Politicians!! 🇺🇸

[@Ohmanwhyyourfeelingshurt]

Looks like most big cities, nice neighborhoods lined by run down ones

[@HolloMatlala1]

2:02 Townships are still modern day Poverty Estates with 1 way in and 1 way out roads systems....After 30 years of Gatekeeping

[@juliandavidac]

A lot of things to take from this video, YES A LOT, not only gaslighting the anc party, making an indirect statement that the freedom was for nothing, the corruption is a disease and must be punished, but the ideals of Mandela and the people are still strong, South Africa needs a second revolution, not from a man but from the people

[@smallscaleminingsupplies9670]

Its just hard to change a system which has been designed for 400 years

[@illuminatelair8084]

the anc has had ample time to fix the urban design. they are in charge...this is just making excuses for their failures and deflecting the blame.

[@ammanuelabraham3487]

Being treated like an alien by aliens in your own country is the sickest thing in the world especially in 2024

[@viarnay]

they have been in charge for 30 years. Look a the results now and cry..

[@mylesmulenga-uz6gd]

Most unequal country in the world? Come on, it's not worse than the systemic racism in the US or the caste system in India. I know many rich folks in South Africa and most are black. It makes me extremely angry when outsiders can't talk about poverty their countries, but will always talk about poverty in Africa.

[@LocalEdits_v8j]

The problem is the disparity between the rich & low. Just because you know many doesn’t mean there are many! This is just your anecdotal perspective, According to research & stats with are the most unequal country in the world!

[@thanduxolonelisiwe3265]

It's an oligarcHy- business and politics are in cahoots and the ordinary man is left out.

[@biggeststeppa1]

The ordinary man has the chance to change that every 5 years, including on this very day - he chooses not to.

[@schmee9025]

@@biggeststeppa1 is this a threat. lets start a revolution.

[@biggeststeppa1]

@@schmee9025 people have a chance to vote yet they still vote wrong every five years.

[@aframaco9491]

To think that Black South Africans vent their anger ( and violence) towards other Black Africans, particularly Nigerians and Zimbabweans in acute unrestrained xenophobia is disappointing! We(All Black Africans) have a lot of work to do on our continent! We shouldn't allow ourselves to lose focus! 👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!!

[@memerjod3762]

POVERTY IS TOTAL HUMANITY'S PROBLEM not A single NATION problem . And all over the world same the financial inequality 😏💔💔. Single digit percentage population having 85% WEALTH of the COUNTRY.

[@raybod1775]

Maybe people who aren’t wealthy should sacrifice, get job skills, education and work harder. I moved up from poverty to upper middle class.

[@shauncameron8390]

Also accounting for 85% of all the wealth produced and taxes paid in the country. Mandela allowed them to keep their wealth for a reason.

[@BatsiraiMusuka]

@@raybod177540m people can not all do that…(especially, if government itself struggles to create a conducive environment for that). What people are saying is you shouldn’t have felt like you were struggling alone against a tide in the first place. Everyone knows that hard work is the only way to go… but sometimes you work hard for a decade and your situation actually gets worse. At that point people begin to realize that things are beyond normal. Just out of curiosity where are you from? (If l may ask).

[@skooosan]

These originals are wonderful

[@Revo2407]

The current spatial planning setup is terrible, leading to poor integration in our communities. It seems like the ANC government hasn't really fixed these issues and some party members living in these areas raise questions about their commitment to improving conditions in the townships. With the elections coming up on May 29th, it's important to think carefully about who to vote for. Many people feel that the ANC's promises don't match reality. Some suggest voting for ActionSA, BOSA or DA , hoping for young, energetic leaders who can bring positive change for everyone.

[@lm_b5080]

worth mentioning that there are arguably over 5 million immigrants in SA from other african countries, making matters much worse

[@wikusconradie6529]

Anc have been in charge for 31 years. Why is it not changing. Do you realy yhink apartheid is to blame if after 31years nothing have changed. Come on people.

[@Avatar_2025]

Human beings are not trees and if they don't want any experience, they can migrate but they choose not to simply because they want to have the experience, of course at the soul level. The souls choose what it wants to experience. Listen to Darryl Anka and learn how we create our reality through our thoughts, feelings, emotions, expectations and beliefs.

[@forhuey]

Refreshing analysis. I did my thesis on this topic of spatial analysis a few years ago in my urban design masters. My supervisor did not support me one bit. Important narratives to be shared!

[@vibe_check_book]

Y'all can say all y'all like but on a real note it only been 30 years since the majority gained it freedom. They have came a long way, look how many black people own cars and houses. I'm talking about young people who are now able to live a peaceful life without being beaten in their bedrooms by police and soldiers for no reason. The only backdown is the weakened currency.

[@shaunm8692]

“Only”….? Funny the same people who said Apartheid lasted “so long” are now saying “only” 30 years for the ANC , that’s double standards and racism

[@shaunm8692]

What exactly were these militant and violently entitled masses doing during the 1000 years of pre colonial settlement?

[@thedompatrinhoofficial]

Just don't vote for the ANC

[@Wayokab]

Even coloured and black people becoming segregated

[@schmee9025]

this comment section is either full of bots or people that just stared blankly for the entire 13 minutes of this video drooling, then somehow try to blame everything on those in poverty