Blowing the Bore! Money Down the Drain??(Vlog 137)

[@thejacksonbrothers]

I forgot to mention that the guys who came out weren’t the ones who installed it and were just helping out, the person who installed did as we requested. Good result regardless as it’s doing what we need it too!

[@jifi-0178]

Good to see a cast of many new and older (Yes, you Peter - HA! Always good to hear from you.) faces this round. Isaac and Jamie are growing into bigger jobs day by day. Even Superivsor Rusty made his appearances. Now we can actually see the real significance of that old windmill while it has been replaced by some of the latest tech. "Well" done. 😀

[@dianemorris6904]

Hi Boys, we live on the mid north coast of NSW. Come to Moree often for the mineral springs. Loved the content of this vlog as we had never seen water searching before. Great work. Please keep giving content such as you have been. Enjoy it immensely. You were in our prayers through the flooding. Hope all are getting on their feet.

[@thejacksonbrothers]

Thank, appreciate it!😁

[@kevinklingner7712]

Those boys are a credit to you and your sons. They are hard workers.

[@peterjohnsen8266]

Hey Matt you do realise your father is the real star of the show 😂😂😂😂😂😂👍 Love his stories

[@ruaraidhmcdonald-walker9524]

Fixing the old windmill got to be a learning job for the Grandsons!

[@kopenhagenkid]

Great video Peter

[@ewanstewart8011]

You had your thinking cap on there Peter great solution 👍🏻🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@johnwarwick4105]

Think Peter is really getting into this filming “shernanigans”👍water return pipe is a genius idea. When the pump fails that’s the time to change it for a smaller one, not like there is any running costs with the solar. Can’t get everything right!

[@TheBoatman11]

Another great video

[@seanworkman431]

Good to see Peter hosting the show, he does a great job with the camera and his explanations are easily understood, to be honest I was a little disappointed that Matt gave the conclusion. Matt, sounds like there is a need for windmill mechanics? Such a sound technology that has worked for thousands of years, we should not let it disappear and the piston pump is a no brainer for pumping a good head of water.

[@Muffin_Masher]

Windmills are great, we had two of them on bores and another one as a transfer pump, the amount of water they pumped over the decades is incredible. It's not very often there is no wind so they are almost always pumping, even if it is just a dribble at times. We dropped about half of the pump rods down a 260 foot bore once :( that was LOTS of fun :D Throwing a pump down the hole is extra appealing once you've been there :)

[@Rogster559]

It goes to show that modern technology isn’t always the best answer , a property I worked on in Western Victoria had about a dozen windmills pumping into 5000 gallon tanks which overflowed into turkey nests ( small dams built up from ground level ) these fed stock troughs around the farm plus the turkey nests were easily accessible to spray tractors and fire trucks as well as stock when they were in the lane ways had troughs just outside the turkey nest fence . Stock weren’t allowed to drink from the nest because it was too steep and too deep some were 10 to 15 feet deep, some had a floating aquatic plant on them to reduce the evaporation rate which worked a treat , best wishes from Tassie

[@mattsutherland120]

Late Saturday arvo with the Jackson Boys… loving the content, thanks for sharing.

[@julianearl5026]

Thanks Peter. That was a very interesting video about rejuvenation of the bore. The feedback system will work well providing the pump is operating within the pump curve to minimise wear and tear. (pump curve as specified by the manufacturer) Operating outside the curve will cause either the pump to wear out or the motor to burn out. I use the same flow back system to keep my pump operating with in the pump curve and it works well.

[@alanb9337]

After using the bore for while, should be able to determine how much debris material is in the tank water (building up on the bottom of the tank). If not okay might use two tanks, one as a settling tank and the other as a cleaner water tank or use an automatic self cleaning filter etc.

[@geraldingram9351]

Great stuff guys

[@kopenhagenkid]

Great video Matt

[@douggilroy1188]

interesting and informative

[@timmywarren2349]

Very good Video 👍

[@garnett1948]

Thanks for sharing the video mate!

[@scottbelinda3509]

Thanks for the farm update Peter and Matt. Hope you had a great Saturday afternoon off if you got the chance to have it off. Thanks for the video 👍

[@drmarkintexas-400]

Thank you for sharing 🏆🤗🇺🇲🙏

[@bradanderson1627]

Great video Dad you’ll have the well figured out soon if not already? Thanks

[@thepubliceye]

Here in the US they use water and sand under 1000 to 6000 psi the pressure opens the aquifer and the sand keep it open.

[@mrsock3380]

Instead of getting a new pump you can throttle the output with a valve, it will also reduce the amount of amps the pump draws. Done it plenty of times to stop cavitation and circuit breakers tripping, I don't see why it wouldn't work in this case.

[@ozlakota1]

when that bore was sunk 30 yrs ago possibly was good water now every ones got bores an fracking in valley water pressure has dropped\

[@nickgibb4687]

reminds me as a kid... thats hard to come by now

[@JDseller1]

Do you know what brand your old windmill was? I am in the US and Aeromoter wind mills are still made today. In 2020 I installed a new 8 foot windmill on a 31 foot tower. Including a new pump the total cost was $7500 US. It is on a pasture farm of ours and it keeps 300-400 brood cows watered year round.

[@jefftheaussie2225]

I think it was a Southern Cross. Only really two types, them and Comet. Comet is a direct drive as in one stroke per revolution of the wheel, Southern Cross are a geared head so they do two revs per stroke and will start in a much lighter breeze. They have a longer stroke than the Comets so the water delivery is probably much the same when they are going. Southern Cross built everything to do with water, the mills, pumps, boring plants to get the water, casing, motors to run pumping systems, pumps,troughs, tanks, tank stands, everything. They even built an aeroplane which is in the air terminal in Toowoomba. Both manufacturers are in Queensland. Southern Cross are galvanised and Comet are unpainted. Windmills are just about finished now after being the mainstay of stock water systems for ever. Not many people left who know how to install and maintain them anymore. I have had lots of experience with them but don’t want to go running up and down one now, that is a young fellas job. The biggest problem with windmills is when you need the water most either the wind won’t blow or they are broken down. Any similarities noticed between them and wind turbines for electricity? Jeff

[@JDseller1]

@@jefftheaussie2225 That is interesting information on the brands of windmills in AU. We really looked at some of the new solar powered water pumps but where this well is at the amount of sunlight in limited in the winter as it is on the north slope of a pretty steep hill. In the winter it is in the shade by 2PM, only gets about 4-5 hour of sunlight on good winter days. So we installed a new wind mill as electrical power is over three miles away. What I did do to help out if we do hit a windless period, is I had a pump jack from the home farm wind mill. It was only used one year before my Grand Father installed a deep well pump. He stored it inside our machine shed. It still has the original paint on it. Almost like new while being 67 years old. LOL I set it up with an electric motor driving it. The motor is small enough that my Honda inverter generator will run it. So If we need water i can just take out the little carry around generator and fill the tank if needed.

[@landlifem5872]

I'd had similar issues with bores during the drought. I ended up getting arduinos and relay switches and made a very simple program So the pump had a run time and then rest time so give the water time to come back in. It never crossed my mind to do what peter did, but yeah whatever works I guess :).

[@Murphyslawfarm]

G'day great video mates

[@tim.sorensen5862]

If you contact the government the bore will be registered and they will have a drill log of how deep and what it produced when it was drilled I reckon the casing has a issue maybe or the aquifer has fractured during the flooding

[@tim.sorensen5862]

@user-nx3nu6kj4c I don’t reckon you would find a driller or a farmer that would do a unregistered bore cause the fines are out of this world and it dosnt cost much to reg

[@tim.sorensen5862]

@user-nx3nu6kj4c I’m in qld and work for the part of qld gov that monitors bores and does the compliance and licensing I’ve not seen or heard of any out my way but hey I’m sure there is a few not a lot but

[@robertquast9684]

You guys have well frac people around the area. H20 mechanic on you tube has some videos on it

[@andydelarue9344]

Hang on ! your pumping water back down the bore just stop save the pump from cycling on and off.

[@ruifilgo]

Sorry for this late question? Why failing to install the correct pump ? Over cost, over consumption... Seems to be poor professional service. Why?

[@blindfreddy]

Didn't hurt to clean the bore anyway I guess. Bores are always a gamble. Nothing is guaranteed. We spent $1000's trying to find water on one of our properties. The best we could do was basically liquid dirt. I have a really good friend at Bathurst in NSW that repaired windmills for a living, but these new-fangled Solar pumps forced him to walk away, and finding parts was getting harder too.

[@2xKTfc]

Should be reasonably cheap to get a camera down there. Downhole cameras are widespread now. Could even make your own with an old cheap phone, waterproof case, a wood guide (to keep it vertical) and some rope. That way you'll see what the deal is down there for possibly less than $100. Or rent an actual downhole camera, although that'll be somewhat more than $100 especially if it comes with a technician. And who knows, maybe all the well needs is another "tender touch" with the 40 ton excavator...😂

[@johnmclaren3480]

Surprised your pump guy didn't do pump test on the hole before he put the new system in!! Most of the pump fellows around here have a trailer mounted pump (or something like) for testing water rate flow before they supply pump kits!!!

[@thejacksonbrothers]

Hi John, we didn’t request one because we had every reason to believe it was a decent bore, these guys didn’t actually install it but the person who did did a great job and as we requested, we like going oversized😂😂

[@chrisoakey9841]

Why would windmills be harder to fix these days? You can buy everything online. You don't need to use any metal. You can select hundreds of shapes.

[@dennistowne457]

Your wells usually that shallow?

[@hvy1ton]

Does anyone around you do hydraulic fracturing of water wells around you?

[@chrisreynolds7164]

There is a groundwater data base that you can access, through Water Resources...either Moree or Tamworth offices, for advice to access the Form A if that hole was licenced. Downhole cameras are widely used these days, if you have a number of bores, could be worth getting, and then sell it to old mate. That steel casing....is never going to get better....like the rest of us...its corroding.

[@seanworkman431]

I am not corroding! Just getting a bit stiff in all the wrong places:)

[@bigears4014]

A bigger tank

[@einfelder8262]

No, whatever water is not needed above ground is vital to leave underground.