Blown away by these speakers with four 15 inch woofers

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Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac

4 жыл бұрын

The PureAudioProject Trio15 Classic is the company's first non-modular design. But like all other PureAudioProject speakers the Trio15 is an open-baffle design, with parts sourced from the US, Germany, and Poland. More info here www.pureaudioproject.com/class...
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@offthecuff6352
@offthecuff6352 Ай бұрын
I took this a huge step further with four 15" speakers and a trio of compression driver horns on each side. The music sounds as live as live can sound ! It takes time to dial in the horns so that they sound natural and without the claimed harshness, but once everything is right, it is pure MAGIC !! My audio journey is in its 53rd year.
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac Ай бұрын
Man, thanks for sharing!
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 8 күн бұрын
Good Day. WoW. Love It! Best Regards.
@alexanderscott3790
@alexanderscott3790 4 жыл бұрын
Thx Steve!... for yet another insightful n well expressed review! Appreciate you, as always.
@jorgesalado600
@jorgesalado600 4 жыл бұрын
I agree I was at the audio show also completely blown away by the system. Exquisite sound!!! ( Artful noise).
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad people are mentioning low level listening these days. I think it's a really important part of HiFi listening - "late night" low volume focused listening, and some speakers and amplifiers seem to do it much better than others. I really like to hear how well certain products do when played quietly.
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 3 жыл бұрын
The Mirage M1 was exceptional at low volume listening. The bass balance wasn't lost with reduced volume. It was if it had a loudness control built in. I would arrive home many times 2am or 3am and settle down for some listening without disturbing others in the household who were asleep.
@AndyBHome
@AndyBHome 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt Thank you for that info Carlos. I was barely aware of the Mirage M1 when it was in production. I'll have to pay attention the next time I see them.
@dicktrickle5352
@dicktrickle5352 3 жыл бұрын
Yes so true……..
@Bd-ox4mi
@Bd-ox4mi 2 жыл бұрын
It’s where the warmth is
@TimpBizkit
@TimpBizkit Жыл бұрын
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt surprisingly my coaxial horn PA speakers do well at low volume, and the vented woofers. I've heard people say that passive radiator designs can have a bit of stiffness to resonance at very low volume and need a bit of oomph to break the initial rigidity of the surround. Ported designs can play level as quiet as you like due to no "stiction" in the port air. The only limitation is your reduced sensitivity to bass at low volume.
@Lemon8
@Lemon8 4 жыл бұрын
I dig it! I heard them while you were describing them. They'll be my dream speakers for sure. I won't be surprised to see those in mastering rooms. Thank you Steve, I enjoy your content. 🙏
@gregasajn698
@gregasajn698 4 жыл бұрын
I build almost identical speakers mounted on stone baffle and I love them. Was very happy when I saw title of your review because I respect your audio knowledge a lot!
@svtcontour
@svtcontour 3 жыл бұрын
I built a pair of large open baffles with twin 15" and compression driver with waveguide in an MTM config back in 2013 and it was an eye opener for me as well. Very effortless and dynamic so I am wrecked for anything small. Nothing else sounds real.
@socratesbsd
@socratesbsd 4 жыл бұрын
Saw these at the New York Audio Show. I Liked them even though most of the demo music was more typical audiophile show stuff. Later in the day when the crowd thinned out they played some more impactful music. The mid-hi frequency driver was pretty amazing - made of wood!
@boulder492
@boulder492 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Steve for this review, I find you, as a reviewer for audio, to be quite a bit ahead of your competition. Your videos seem to have a lot more information and complexity of thought when it comes to what makes the experience of listening to music so pleasurable. I am really glad to see more information on Pure Audio Project and I am still quite interested in what other iterations of this speaker sound like. I remember another review you did about how much speaker companies spend on engineering the box and it is nice to hear from you what happens when a company spends it on drivers. I wouldn't mind hearing a review of the modular trios with the horn.
@DMC428
@DMC428 4 жыл бұрын
He's literally the Audiophiliac and yeah I'm interested in a review of the modular ones too.
@dilbyjones
@dilbyjones 4 жыл бұрын
He’s Da Audiophiliac Man!
@sharadpatel5143
@sharadpatel5143 4 жыл бұрын
It's great review and extremely well explained. I enjoyed your video. Keep up good work
@joewhip9303
@joewhip9303 4 жыл бұрын
I was able to hear the larger version of these speakers at CAF 2019 that retailed for $10,000. Best sound of the show.
@billwillard9410
@billwillard9410 4 жыл бұрын
joe Whip Definitely sounded good in spite of the small hotel room in which they were set up.
@googoo-gjoob
@googoo-gjoob 4 жыл бұрын
i dont know Joe, i was knocked out by the Avantgarde speakers.
@joewhip9303
@joewhip9303 4 жыл бұрын
googoo gjoob different strokes ...
@timmotel5804
@timmotel5804 8 күн бұрын
7/2024: Hi Steve, from the Future. IMO, Bigger Is Always Better! Cool to see you so excited about a pair of speakers. They are truly Magnificent. Thank You & Best Regards.
@petethegreekre
@petethegreekre 3 жыл бұрын
This take on crossovers is fantastic.
@Mr.Rude.
@Mr.Rude. 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love a pair of those. Great content mate 👍
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review of an open baffle speaker.
@vladimirdorta6692
@vladimirdorta6692 4 жыл бұрын
Great review. Now imagine the PureAudioProject Quintet15 with 2 more of those wonderful woofers, plus a midrange/tweeter upgrade to the Voxativ AC-4a driver with Alnico magnet. Out of this world!
@matthewbarrow3727
@matthewbarrow3727 4 жыл бұрын
Yep. I haven't heard these speakers, but have the Legacy Audio Aeris (which have the same area of mid-woofer to sub-woofer drivers compared to the dual 15 inch drivers). Going from a hybrid electrostatic Martin Logan SL 3 with a single 10 inch woofer to a box speaker with so much more mid-range to sub-woofer driver area was really a massive difference. It was not something I expected. There is a sense of easy bigness. There is a sometimes a sense that the sound stage even surrounds you (even though all the music is in front of you) at a reasonable (75dB) listening level. I've had people ask if I have surround speakers, even though there aren't any. When it comes to bass, you can feel the waves of bass come up from the floor to your body. However, it is my sense that this comes from the pressurization that the speaker creates in the room (where a resonant node moves towards you). It is quite a different sonic experience than small driver speakers. Certainly worth trying out open-baffle large driver area speakers if one is in the market.
@Jeton6
@Jeton6 4 жыл бұрын
thank you for addressing the issue of scale, and how some audio experiences are completely scale-specific, and can not be intuited nor analogized by substitution.
@jlmain5777
@jlmain5777 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds very interesting as an aspirational speaker.
@petrogray4537
@petrogray4537 4 жыл бұрын
Love the review...show the speakers more, while you’re talking. Ta
@fishingbear69
@fishingbear69 4 жыл бұрын
....hey thanks for all the ear candy..no music samples.? Its not the same as having a live hearing interaction..but its something better then nothing..music samples next time please..
@jeffjames4064
@jeffjames4064 3 жыл бұрын
I've always said, nothing, absolutely nothing can replace or duplicate the sound of massive power and huge speakers.
@lewgoogle5530
@lewgoogle5530 9 ай бұрын
But the review is about very efficient speakers that require only a few Watts of power. And they're not huge at 48 inches height, if you compare them to truly huge speakers.
@plcamp1
@plcamp1 4 жыл бұрын
I changed mine to biamplified through a minidsp, and in WWFR config. Also modified baffles and their mounts with vibration isolation and angled backwards. I cross at 150 hz, 8th order now.
@pauld7069
@pauld7069 4 жыл бұрын
100% fun. Sounds like 4 - 15 inch drivers certainly can easily disturb a significant number of air molecules. Bet that sounds magical.
@bc527c
@bc527c 4 жыл бұрын
I'm flat out addicted to the visceral qualities of my open baffle speakers (full range(-2db @20hz at listening position), 18" bottoms, 12" mids and compression driver/waveguide), The textural depth revealed by the lack of box, along with the relaxed presentation, tone, and concert scale... have captured my heart. Mine are lacking the smoothness of $$$$$ hifi speakers, but they are musical and engaging and honest... and the one thing I actually think $$$$$$ hifi speakers have over done.... is their endless smoothness (and way overdone 'slam')...
@Xx-xd3zo
@Xx-xd3zo 3 жыл бұрын
What speaker is that?
@AUDIO.and.SCOTCH
@AUDIO.and.SCOTCH 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video Thanks Steve.
@johnbartel5229
@johnbartel5229 4 жыл бұрын
I really get what you mean about the low end "presence." I have dual Klipsch Sub 12 subwoofers in my 2 channel stereo system. They only handle 50 Hertz and below and are integrated such that they kind of disappear in my system. But the sound is so "alive" Thank you for the opportunity to share.
@daviddru942
@daviddru942 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, it's been interesting to see you've been enjoying some speakers recently with larger drivers. As you identified in this review, when crossed over correctly, what they bring to the overall sound in the lower mid range tones is often their often overlooked strength. As far as these great looking speakers, maybe they would have been better in some of the areas you noted if your room was a little bigger.
@isaacsykes3
@isaacsykes3 4 жыл бұрын
Great review, I wish you were in DC for the Capital audio fest. I think that you would have really appreciated the Spatial room. That should be your next review, and well as the Triton Reference
@BenBayle
@BenBayle 4 жыл бұрын
Great review can't wait to hear about the Cornwalls! Explorations of Space and Time is very cool reminds me of a cross between Kronos Quartet and Medeski, Martin, & Wood. I would also like to hear a broader range of music being included in the reveiws. Maybe Amon Tobin / Clark / Lorn - EDM and Slayer / Gojira / Devin Townsend / Zeal & Ardor - Rock, Thrash, Extreme Metal just a thought. Thanks again for the daily videos they are great!
@hawaiiguykailua6928
@hawaiiguykailua6928 3 жыл бұрын
Really wish you would sample test this speaker, I know you don't do that but I think these deserved an acception.
@andyd9126
@andyd9126 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Steve, you really seem excited about these
@adotopp1865
@adotopp1865 4 жыл бұрын
I love it!
@billbones1000
@billbones1000 4 жыл бұрын
Steve please do the spatial M4 turbo S!! Budget friendly OBs. I think many of your viewers would be very into a good OB at a very decent price.
@JessicaSeverin
@JessicaSeverin 4 жыл бұрын
I love my electrostat system, but if I was going to do it again, I'm sure open baffle would an option I would try. But I am content and happy with my speakers and amp for my room.
@sprobablycancr4457
@sprobablycancr4457 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! I tried making some stats once. (it didn't pan out!)
@miguelbarrio
@miguelbarrio 4 жыл бұрын
Heard these at the NY Audio Show 2019 (last weekend). I did not get to sit in the sweet spot so hard to have an impression of spatial presentation. But the instrument tonality was great.
@jonathanhardy
@jonathanhardy 4 жыл бұрын
hi steve. thank you for another awesome review. as an owner/builder of diy open-baffle speakers having 4 15" woofers i know what youre talking about :) in another review you mentioned a madeleine peyroux cut that you heard where there was a standup bass and you were describing how wonderfully woody the standup bass sounded. i listened to the track and while the woody sound was there it was really apparent that it wasnt a standup bass but rather a cello or some other large stringed/bowed instrument as i could clearly hear the bite of the bow on the string(s). if youre ever in the sf bay area please come by for a listen. :)
@fzesgru
@fzesgru 4 жыл бұрын
Great review and further exploration of that parameter big drivers introduce into the listening experience, which I guess boils down to clean, efficient air movement capability. Achieving this is where loudspeakers start to get big and expensive, but is also a big step closer to that "live sound" feel. Now...how do we get that in a smaller less expensive format every music lover can afford and fit in their listening room? Steve you may be pushing on the next boundary in speaker design!
@erwindewit4073
@erwindewit4073 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, they look awesome! I’ve always wanted to try speakers with bass pressure like that on my tiny tube amp (45 watts at 6 ohms, currently driving Harbeth Super HL5 speakers). The only slight downside is indeed the price.. I do hope I will one day get that chance!
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason 5G is not going into Israel and West Palm Beach. Just sayin'.
@afrojoe24
@afrojoe24 4 жыл бұрын
Would be awesome to experience and listen to! 💥💥👌
@BattleDoll
@BattleDoll 4 жыл бұрын
Lately, I was more captivated by open-baffle speakers in every show I went to. Maybe I 'm tired of box-design and want something new (not necessarily better). Anyway, bought the LX521 plan from Linkwitz and seriously thinking to build it. Nice review Steve.
@tjp444
@tjp444 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, you're teasing us with the upcoming KEF R3 review. I hope it'll be soon.
@Grizzly1644
@Grizzly1644 4 жыл бұрын
It’s extraordinary it’s taken you so long to find large efficient speakers. Enjoy.
@baronofgreymatter14
@baronofgreymatter14 4 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend raising the cornwalls off the floor? like tweeter at ear height?
@charleskatz2606
@charleskatz2606 4 жыл бұрын
Worth the wait.Wonder how it would handle addition of a REL.One thing that was skipped though was the room placement but otherwise a great review that got my salivary glands open
@weareallbeingwatched4602
@weareallbeingwatched4602 2 жыл бұрын
4x12" per side is my preferred. Quested 412. 2x15 was used on the urei monitors. It's plenty of cone area, roughly equivalent to 4x12", but with a bit less finesse and transient slam compared to 4x12". You have to design the quested speakers into a wall in a properly designed room, but the result in a post production or mix studio is my favourite sound full stop. Possibly only beaten by large scale outdoor systems.
@Vifxone
@Vifxone 4 жыл бұрын
hi steve, could you let us know how this compares with the ohm walsh 2000. you indicated that you were quite impressed with that one also. thanks
@alx7318
@alx7318 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, can you please do a review or give me an opinion of the KLH Kendall and Denon 1055R ? Thank you.
@jimshaw899
@jimshaw899 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely the cat's ass when you want to replicate Rush at Madison Square Garden in your living room. Add some earplugs and some smoke, and off you go. ;) [Uh oh, incoming...]
@Paulcapozio
@Paulcapozio 4 жыл бұрын
How could you NOT be lol. And yes subs are a different animal. Love your work thank you.
@jridgunc
@jridgunc 4 жыл бұрын
Steve!!! Now we need a review of Spatial Audio M3's!!!!
@jimmydwallace
@jimmydwallace 4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could afford them, On another subject. Why I can not find reviews on Rega Intergrated amps? Is there a reason?
@somedude2630
@somedude2630 4 жыл бұрын
Steve I’m going to build a pair I think...btw what is the crossover fqy? EXCELLENT Review
@bc527c
@bc527c 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting along time for you to 'get' the open baffle thing... glad you have.
@scottyo64
@scottyo64 4 жыл бұрын
Steve's talked about these speakers many times in the past
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 жыл бұрын
If you get these, either your First Watt or a Bob Carver amp are musts with these babies.
@peterborelli3877
@peterborelli3877 2 жыл бұрын
Have you had the opportunity to hear any of the Cube Audio speakers... either the F10 Nenuphar or the F8 Nenuphar Minis?
@roymindmybusiness6908
@roymindmybusiness6908 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You Steve very informative review -Voxativ are not my cup of tea so I have definitely saved $10 k plus -cant wait till you try some of there other units
@Justwantahover
@Justwantahover Жыл бұрын
2:50 If you soldered the crossover it might sound different. I know that my soldered crossovers sound different to being just twisted tightly. So much so, that I sometimes have to change a component or two, just to get it to sound more like it did prior to soldering (when it was just twisted). Crazy! So cables might actually make a difference.
@pnojazz
@pnojazz Жыл бұрын
So Steve, did you prefer the smaller Pure Audio in your room? I noticed you now have the Duo’s. Thank you!
@alwaysexpandinghorizons6173
@alwaysexpandinghorizons6173 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting would be also a comparison between the Trio15 and the JBL S3900. Thx for all the videos
@ferchizzle
@ferchizzle 4 жыл бұрын
How do these compare with the Spatial Audio open baffle speakers?
@AudioElectronicsChicago
@AudioElectronicsChicago 4 жыл бұрын
Not long I was reading that the most accurate sound you will get from 8" - 10" woofers but go figure it :)
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt
@carlosoliveira-rc2xt 3 жыл бұрын
Don't believe everything you read or hear. A lot of misinformation has been bandied about.
@95Sn95
@95Sn95 4 жыл бұрын
The thing I have a hard time adjusting to is after listing to music on modern speaker systems with a subwoofer(s) having that deep powerful bass then listening to say good vintage speakers is the bass seems on the weak side thinking what is going on? so I have to recalibrate also, after a while the amount of bass from a typical loud speaker produces sounds great then on the flipside going back to speakers utilizing a sub the bass seems bit excessive finding myself turning the sub back. But now speakers I always thought had really great bass don't seem to now just from incorporating a subwoofer normally. But deep bass is very very addictive to alot of folks...
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
Just on the face of it I find it a bit hard to believe a 15" driver will truly reproduce mid bass in an accurate manner up to 400 hZ and at the same time produce tight deep bass. As to a sub you really aren't supposed to hear it so if it is excessive you did the right thing turning it down.
@95Sn95
@95Sn95 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-np3zk well I like very music bass heavy so I run bass levels higher than opinion of the "correct" level of a subwoofer seamlessly blending in with the mains, yeah there's a point of serious bass oversaturation I'm not referring to that I like the sub adjusted so seems the mains just have a powerful low end to the point that is not heard in a typical well engineered quality loud speaker. Can I tell there's a sub in the mix I'd say yes but whatever. Besides there's litterly no correct way for a person to listen there audio, it's whatever appeals to what listener finds enjoyable whether it's bright highs, hollow mids or brutal lows everyone's idea of just right is different... There's people out there that prefer there subwoofer to drown out the rest of the frequencies, whatever... Que Sera Sera.
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
@@95Sn95 "their" audio lol. Good points man.
@gurdyman1
@gurdyman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-np3zk Many high quality pro 15" drivers can do both mid-bass and go down to a good solid 30Hz.
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
@@gurdyman1 in fairness I would need to hear it. I do like the efficiency of these vs. my Infinity Kappa 8s. The 12" woofer on the 8s crosses over at 80 hZ and the midbass driver at 500 hZ. The woofer is carbon graphite and stiff as a freaking board. Just like you need.
@contaxxx2895
@contaxxx2895 4 жыл бұрын
When I visited NY Audio Show last week, PureAudioProject room was first thing to do. I must say that I wasn't super impressed, they are really good but they don't excel in anything particular. For example, low end is missing kick and clarity considering 4 x 15" woofers, they were lacking in details also (more than expected) and not as open sounding as i would imagine. The soundstage could be better for OB speakers and imaging is pretty poor. To describe them more metaphorically I would say that they are Jack of all trades but master of none, which is actually not a bad thing at all, they just don't excite in any department and left me wanting more. I would also say that given the proper room size and treatment they could potentially be outstanding speakers. As usually Steve, thanks a lot for the review.
@barchetype6430
@barchetype6430 4 жыл бұрын
Could have been that the amp was too weak. 🤔 I mean that Whammerdyne was like 6 Watts a channel. Even First Watts have at least twice as much power as that amp (which is more fit for something like a hORNS Universum (100db/W), though they still benefit of something beefier.
@ruphobic
@ruphobic 4 жыл бұрын
Steve To Pure Audio: Save a pair for me
@OMG_BeCkY
@OMG_BeCkY 4 жыл бұрын
I want those for my bedroom! Overkill? And how are they for home theater?
@xoseruy7326
@xoseruy7326 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Steve . I’ve living with 4x15 and it is a hard time living without ...
@richheckelmann
@richheckelmann 3 жыл бұрын
Steve great review. These are great speakers. But..... I built a simple version out of dyi parts that achieves much of the same results for way less than 500. Not hard. Really don’t think anything can beat it for the buck. And yes they get better the louder they go. Really Fast bass is eye opening. And room interaction is very different.
@ashleey5614
@ashleey5614 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, just a personal request.. Can you make a video on your thoughts on SVS PB-16 Ultra ? And if you haven't reviewed/heard to it yet, can you please do so..?
@KirkLazurus
@KirkLazurus 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWbSo42unJ53i9U Not the PB 16 but an SVS sub.
@VideoArchiveGuy
@VideoArchiveGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Not a bad sub most of the time but easily driven to chuffing. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5bcooaChNKUm6s
@richardyanicky1845
@richardyanicky1845 3 жыл бұрын
Wow very impressive review. Never heard open baffle before. I am in the market for new speakers have been looking at many around 7 to 10 k price range. A issue I am having with direct to consumer, is the return. There are many positives to the situation such as lower cost, use in your own space with your own equipment etc. I would think I need all vendors to provide the speakers at the same time so I could compare them? They of course all say I probably won't return them... But I would only want one pair... Has anyone else delt with this situation or similar? Do returns go without issue just some minor fee and repacking?
@mfisher702
@mfisher702 6 ай бұрын
I treat return shipping and 10% restocking fees as the cost of doing business and a new normal these days. Pick carefully after exhaustive research but understand the route out if needed. You can't expect to get it right the first time based on other people's words about how a speaker or other components sound and brick and mortar experiences are rare. I will say (as I eagerly wait for my Trio15 Classics to arrive) that Z'ev at Pure Audio Project is a gem of a guy. Very easy to talk to (actual phone conversations) and a pleasure to deal with. The front end of this purchase process is highly recommended.
@kevintomb
@kevintomb 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the Crossover accounts for the "Dipole Peak" in the response.
@ABC-rh7zc
@ABC-rh7zc 4 жыл бұрын
Seems that your preference for horns means that you should audition a PAP with a horn option - could be the best of both worlds.
@ythagakure
@ythagakure 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how Superstar by the Carpentars would have sounded on both the trio and the Klipsch. I appreciate your review!!!
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
Lame?
@ythagakure
@ythagakure 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-np3zk ?
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
@@ythagakure I'm teasing love that scene in Tommy Boy.
@meshplates
@meshplates 4 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly good price.
@ericnortan9012
@ericnortan9012 7 ай бұрын
I have a set of Cerwin Vega sl15s, we use them as surround fronts and when we want to really jam. 15' woofers rule.
@arturosuarez-silverio5983
@arturosuarez-silverio5983 4 жыл бұрын
Freud would have explained Steve’s enthusiasm as case of speaker envy.
@harryhazelip
@harryhazelip Жыл бұрын
What room size would be minimal for these trio 15's?
@Sunflower0122Z
@Sunflower0122Z 4 жыл бұрын
I heard these speakers a the NY Audio Show and they were wonderful. I got to hear some French female jazz vocal music and it was luscious and expansive...a real treat. Steve what is the minimum power needed to drive these?
@johnsweda2999
@johnsweda2999 4 жыл бұрын
How would they sound with a horn mid-range, they would sound better making a transmission line for the full frequency driver and adding next to it a ribbon tweeter, even mounting a KEF Q driver The things you commented would be sorted out.
@ThPappas
@ThPappas 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Trio15 Horn1?
@carolineleonard8214
@carolineleonard8214 4 жыл бұрын
Although I haven't heard these, it's clear that " there ain't no replacement for displacement ".
@Pervatory
@Pervatory 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful speakers, but I doubt I'll ever have a listening room big enough to do them justice. That being said, I'd love to hear your opinion on big speakers in smaller rooms. How big is too big?
@matthewbarrow3727
@matthewbarrow3727 4 жыл бұрын
Depends on if the system includes room correction. I have a pair of fully active Legacy Audio Aeris with Wavelet pre-amp, room-correction, and 3-way active cross-over. The speaker designer has done tests on them in a room which is only 8 foot by 8 foot (and is confident that they sound just fine in such a small room). These speakers weigh close to 200 pounds per speaker. I do not know how other large speakers will work in small rooms.
@birgerolofsson2347
@birgerolofsson2347 4 жыл бұрын
Yes and the low bass in a very large room, say 30x20 meter, is something TOTALLY DIFFERENT than the same 30 Hz sound in a small 5x3,5 meter room. PS The Impedance is always the first I look after and are most curious about since my Infinity Kappa 8 that went all the way down to 1 Ohm in "Extended Mode" DS
@JohnDoe-np3zk
@JohnDoe-np3zk 4 жыл бұрын
I bet the Infinity Kappa 8 would punish these speakers into submission. Anyway other than Bryston (currently 7BSST2) nothing seems to make my 8s sing. Even the 7B3 sounds like it would be a step down. More power!
@tomislavgasparic8100
@tomislavgasparic8100 4 жыл бұрын
What is that R2R machine on 1:22?
@abguy4
@abguy4 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Yes, Yes. Probably the best review you've ever done. Maybe because I agreed with every word. lol. I luv that you are using Klipsch Cornwalls as a comparison basis. That's a severe comparison test basis. So many lessor reviewers use another (Ho-Hum who cares) cone speaker that has minimal differences to begin with, and subsequently the review is a bore. Please keep using Klipsch as the standard for comparison - it should be. Yur not gittin older - yur gittin better.
@ronlevine8873
@ronlevine8873 2 жыл бұрын
I've read that the horn version (Trio15 horn1) has better low-level listening qualities. You might want to revisit Pure Audio with this version.
@james2653
@james2653 Жыл бұрын
This would be a great (and closer) comparison to the Cornwall's...
@UNKNOWN-le2tu
@UNKNOWN-le2tu 4 жыл бұрын
Whats the hype with open baffle speakers. Ive seen them before and people tend to compliment on them.
@mariosupa4027
@mariosupa4027 4 жыл бұрын
Good review Steve and I'm liking the Tee shirt change from your normal attire. Are you going to be doing a follow up on the Cornwall IV anytime soon?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, Cornwall IV in a couple of weeks.
@mariosupa4027
@mariosupa4027 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve looking forward to the follow up review. I'm currently running Buchardt SE S400 with dual SVS subs.
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Steve, question; How much time do you spend positioning speakers for every review ?
@jp2246
@jp2246 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, when are you going to do a cool audiophiliac T-shirt?
@dahoo-needledrop
@dahoo-needledrop 4 жыл бұрын
How many times a man must be blown away, before you call him a man? The answer my friend, is blowing in the wind.
@KALTBLUTWOLF1
@KALTBLUTWOLF1 4 жыл бұрын
Offtopic but important question for me: I want to buy the Klipsch RP-600M but since they are so sensitive I worry about noise coming from them since I would use them for near field listening. I had to send my last two active speakers back because their white noise was just too much for me. So does anyone have experience with these and can tell me if you can hear white noise coming from them at an arm's length away? Especially if you are using the NAD C 316BEE Steve recommended. Please let me know what Amp you are using too! I would be really grateful for any help since this would be a big investment for me!
@drgjs
@drgjs 4 жыл бұрын
Background noise typically comes from cable management. If you use good shielded cables, and have them properly routed, it shouldn't be an issue. AC noise may be an issue too. One doesn't know until you've set it up. After buying a legit audiophile ac power conditioner, I was amazed at how "black" the background became.
@gurdyman1
@gurdyman1 4 жыл бұрын
@Fat Rat Depends on the horn. I listen to speakers with horn tweeters at around 2 meters away and have no problem listening all day. Some horns are better at avoiding listener fatigue than others.
@KALTBLUTWOLF1
@KALTBLUTWOLF1 4 жыл бұрын
@Fat Rat I have read exactly that about Klipsch. However, I read some thread on some board where people were discussing exactly that and they said that the 600M is much softer than the previous models but I am still hasitating with them since I am quite treble sensitive. I did never have this issue with speakers, but with heaphones it's pretty bad. But with horns it's just a quantaty issue with treble, isn't it? I am using a DSP already so I could just tone down the treble without loosing detail? The AMP I was mentioning has treble/mid/bass dials too...
@socksumi
@socksumi 4 жыл бұрын
No substitute for large drivers and a large baffle. They provide a "scale" to the sound that better approximates live instruments that mini monitors and small driver speakers can't match. This sense of scale is an important but often neglected aspect of sound realism. I love "big" sound and so do most people. It's often the reason very large speakers are chosen as "best sound at audio shows".
@myk1200s
@myk1200s 4 жыл бұрын
Steve did you play LED ZEPPELIN II... IF SO HOW DID IT SOUND?
@jorgesalado600
@jorgesalado600 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately they didn't but they did play some Cannonball Adderley.
@chrispicquet733
@chrispicquet733 3 жыл бұрын
Open baffle speakers sound great,but need a bit of power and decibels to really shine.a box speaker does make more sense for lower volumes.however,open baffle designs are faster,and don't have the sidewall bass cancellation issues that box speakers do.
@dksculpture
@dksculpture 4 жыл бұрын
I've never heard open baffle speakers but I've lived with large, full-range electrostatics. With a full range ES, placement and backwave absorbtion made a huge difference. Does this style of speaker need to be far away from a treated back wall? Anyone?
@andrewt902
@andrewt902 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes, most definitely. Best bet imo for deeep bass and close wall placement is front port transmission line.
@gurdyman1
@gurdyman1 4 жыл бұрын
Any open baffle speakers needs plenty of space behind it to sound it's best.
@dksculpture
@dksculpture 4 жыл бұрын
@@gurdyman1 Thank you. Makes sense.
@dksculpture
@dksculpture 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewt902 Thank you.
@kirusmagnus317
@kirusmagnus317 4 жыл бұрын
Steve, please do a review of double stacked large Advents.
@jimomertz
@jimomertz 4 жыл бұрын
My friend and I brought our Advents together like in 1979 into the classic stacked Advent arrangement. I can tell you it was amazing. It was more than just two Advents. So much more bottom end tightness. Would be fun to try them again with today’s amps.
@johngaspar4425
@johngaspar4425 4 жыл бұрын
how can 96db sensitivity and they're bad at low levels?
@flapjack7816
@flapjack7816 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys. Im thinking about buying a tin hifi t2 pro and im gonna use it directly on my iPhone6s. Should i do it? Is the difference compared to the normal EarPods worth it?
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac
@SteveGuttenbergAudiophiliac 4 жыл бұрын
Flap Jack yes
@flapjack7816
@flapjack7816 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Guttenberg Audiophiliac thank you kind sir
@rockman22
@rockman22 4 жыл бұрын
Cornwall IV review soon??
@AdrianIII
@AdrianIII 4 жыл бұрын
Compared to Walsh Ohm 2000?
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