Pat Metheny - Finding And Believing

Secret Story - Recorded live in New Brunswick, NJ, on 24th November, 1992
Guitar, Keyboards, Producer -- Pat Metheny
Guitar -- Torsten De Winkel
Keyboards -- Jim Beard
Keyboards, Accordion -- Gil Goldstein
Percussion -- Armando Marçal
Percussion, Guitar, Trumpet -- David Blamires
Vocals, Guitar, Trumpet, Percussion -- Mark Ledford

[@judycastle5318]

Secret Story is the greatest music listening experience I have had in my long 8 decades of life. May the gods bless this ensemble and the gifted Pat Matheny!

[@grandrapladyakaamb2438]

30 YEARS LATER AND IT STILL GOOD!

[@tbone5764]

I saw this tour, unbelievable.

[@patriciasaezcampos6238]

This musical work is very complicated to sing, the music is sublime, everything in it is perfection.

[@jeffv103]

When a live version of a song is virtually identical to the studio version you get this.....

[@jameslee5520]

The most spiritual song ever heard

[@katarzynalynch8499]

Someone introduced Pat music to me when I was 21 ...today in age of 60 still love his music...the best guitar ever😊

[@jamesbrown9130]

Kudos to Mark Ledford and David Blamires for holding on to those demanding vocals.

[@matt_pacheco_music]

No idea how they make 2 people sound like a choir

[@stephenlinton1236]

RIP Mark Ledford

[@mancuniancandidatem]

​@@matt_pacheco_musicThere are definitely vocal samples off of the record being played here but they are singing and playing live in unison. I also think the keyboard players string sounds (the London Symphony Orchestra) are sampled from the record. I don't think it would have been possible to recreate this record live without the aid of playing some live samples. I mean no disrespect to the musicians and in reality the very fact that they were able to pull this off,with the technology in 1992, is a testament to how good these musicians are. The talent here is supreme.

[@btothek4989]

​​@@mancuniancandidatem yeah you're on to something. I've been following PMG since '87 and I can't see how you produce this live without the obvious orchestral and vocal patches. No disrespect, this is a real complex piece, and why I love PMG but don't let your eyes deceive you. RIP Mark & Lyle.

[@JSkalman]

Saw this performance in the summer of 1993. My wife hated this particular song..."The Yabbadabbadoo song". Then, whilst being performed at the Starlake Ampitheater, near Pittsburgh, our first-born daughter, all of 4 months old, laughed out-loud for the very first time during the yabba dabbas and my wife sang a different tune from that day forth. Been listening to the talent of Pat and Lyle since 1976 and never tire of hearing any of their pieces for the thousandth time. Music for the heart, mind and soul. Miss you, Lyle.

[@DawnMcKenziePlus]

I so love this tune!! It's rapid fire lyricism carries me through the day with a sense of exhilaration. LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@dennismorton1128]

One of the greatest songs that was ever recorded...it spoke a universal language!

[@KDMusicprod]

totally agree.

[@Blocc187]

Wow. Best description I have ever heard. It sure does. It's speaks south Africa's 11 official languages 🙆🏿‍♂️🙆🏿‍♂️🙆🏿‍♂️🙆🏿‍♂️🤞🏿🤞🏿🤞🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🌍🌍🌍😎😎😎👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@marcscordato4385]

Jazz ,classical , improvisation , orchestration , , avant-garde this is the ONLY song I know that has all these elements a modern master piece .

[@brianmi40]

We need another album like Secret Story. So inspiring throughout.

[@susanjohnson5446]

Love this composition. I’m a retired middle school Art teacher in south Arkansas and always wanted to see if it what this might inspire. I took the conventional road and didn’t do it. This is good old boy football, hunting and C&W music country. I regret my easy way towing the line.

[@mikes8149]

Secret Story is a masterpiece and very special set. I will say that From This Place has become a set in similar genre. It is from a different 'place' in Pat's life, but is one of his many sojourn of the musical journey he offers us. Been following and looking forward to where the next chapter leads to. This whole set is a beautiful part of the story. Peace

[@stevethrapp2660]

And the Genius Pat wrote every note of this masterpiece

[@erobinidcf]

One of the Greatest Bands ever!!..... &...... Without doubt The Greatest Guitarist of my 70 years lifetime Live Long Pat Metheny ....ps R I P Lyle Mays , your contribution will be your legacy you will never be forgotten nor will your music !

[@johnbutler4319]

You need to get out more!!!!

[@dawnettedarden911]

Well said

[@dawnettedarden911]

I LOVE ❤️ THIS GROUP I LOVE ❤️ PAT METHANY!! ONE OF THE WORLDS GREATEST!!

[@yasirduhham504]

Most complicated/sophisticated track from Secret Story, yet beautifully played as brilliantly conceived and composed. This is a really great performance, God bless you all for the joy you are giving us

[@go2mac]

can't agree more. they are one of my favorites.

[@danmason8427]

I saw the Atlanta show, and Pat said he didn't envision Secret Story for the concert stage, and credited Gil Goldstein with arranging this piece and several others for the show. Also, I got to meet Pat, Gil, Wertico, and Ledford after the show. A true highlight of my life.

[@RealDocJames]

@@danmason8427 R.I.P. Mark Ledford.

[@anagram8]

Oh yeah!

[@fernandopinero3182]

⁠@@danmason8427Oh! Great for you! Meeting all those masters in their unique specialties!

[@jerzyboczek749]

To genialny instrumentalista i aranżer swoich niesłychanie rozbudowanych dźwiękowo utworów ,które są nie tylko perfekcyjnie skomponowane , wykonane , ale też dość łatwo wpadają w ucho ,co przy tej lawinie dźwięków jest niemal nieprawdopodobne . Dzięki PAT , jesteś wielki...

[@mischi7920]

What brilliant musicians...

[@redriverwave]

Moves me to tears. So beautiful. 🌻

[@sharonjones9769]

Chills!!!! I was at this show 💜💜

[@ghdesign_]

Here before the rest of the crowd… 2023 looking crazy

[@amatillo7333]

Everyone is crazy this year I'm excited to see what everybody does

[@jerzyboczek749]

He is a brilliant instrumentalist and arranger of his incredibly sonically complex songs, which are not only perfectly composed and performed, but also quite catchy to the ear, which is almost unbelievable considering this avalanche of sounds. Thanks PAT, you are great...

[@jojo3010]

that vocals are amazinggggggggggggggggggggggggg

[@miltonbrown8713]

I had the privilege of seeing this show when PM played Houston in the old Music Hall, which was November 1992. Twenty eight years later and I can still clearly state it is one of the best concerts I've ever attended. The video doesn't quite give justice to the light show and music combination on this song.

[@go2lucy]

Same. I saw it in Austin at the Bass Concert Hall and to this day I get chills just thinking about how good it was. What a performance and album! I thought Lyle Mays was with him on this tour but I guess not?

[@rfuriati]

Vi esta Gira en Caracas Venezuela . Fue ALUCINATE e INOLVIDABLE

[@brucejohnson2601]

This song should be on the next satellite record. Otherworldly and profoundly human - it is the Secret Story.

[@petershim5900]

The most committed musician I've ever heard. You just feel it! ❤🙏🏼❤🙏🏼❤ Pure vibes!

[@bonvivant5251]

so many diverse elements in this song and crafted together in a beautiful masterpiece

[@brockmcdonald5745]

F'insane song. Talent like no other.

[@41sith]

1992 was the best year for the Pat Metheny group.. favorite album.

[@joelcopen3920]

This song gives me goosebumps! With headphones, it's the most hypnotic experience I've ever had! Beautiful, passionate, worshipful!

[@RCPowerbusByProxy]

Jim Beard on keys? That's special! Phenomenal player and composer.

[@seankellymurray]

Yes, but Lyle Mays is so missed!

[@bondoustephane2064]

a monument piece of the music of the twentieth century, a piece that transcends cultures to reach our hearts, with each listening its vibrations carry me away

[@melborden2074]

This is probably my most favorite group ever. I continuously discover great compositions from the group!

[@canobenitez]

I recommend this song to be the world anthem for mankind.

[@monoble619]

+MarathonInfinityHalo If your variation of the word mundi means you think of this song as a world anthem, I would agree. It ranks up there with his song First Circle as Top Ten songs of all time. Brilliant!

[@canobenitez]

+Mo Noble thank you for your correction! Indeed!

[@nonukesno1]

Love

[@claudeproulx8323]

No words to describe this... Simply beautiful!

[@andysmith6824]

This concert tour was INCREDIBLE! I am very, very fortunate in that I got to attend Secret Story, We Live Here, Imaginary Day, and Letter From Home. I hate to say this, but I have not purchased much Pat music lately. He has changed his ways, and I wish he would go back to what made him famous and what made him win so many Grammy awards. This particular song, Finding and Believing, is so moving and so incredible. Nobody in the world could pull this off except for Pat. My gosh I could listen to this all day.

[@davidlawrence2508]

Listen to the new album "From this Place". Great new songs. Try the song "Wide and Far" with a great 'outro' by Linda May Han Oh on bass.

[@andysmith6824]

David Lawrence Okay, will do! I’ll finish up breakfast and then go check-in with iTunes. I hope it’s great--I miss the 80s and 90s PMG stuff so much! I wonder how old Pat is now? And I wonder if he’s changed any of his well-known stuff for concerts, like wearing blue jeans and the black and white horizontal striped shirt? And Earth Wind & Fire playing “That’s The Way of the World” which lets us know that he’s about to come out? Every concert I’ve ever been to with PMG (including all friends who have gone as well as internet reports), there is music playing over the speakers in the concert area. But when “TTWofW” comes on by EW&F, that’s when I get butterflies in my stomach and I know I’m about to get goosebumps!

[@radio645]

I saw this concert at the Paramount Theater in Seattle, always a great show from PMG. At the beginning of the concert when the band walked out on the stage, someone yelled "Where's Lyle?" Pat didn't respond, he picked up his guitar and started playing. It was still a fantastic concert even without Lyle. That was the only PMG concert I'd seen that didn't feature Lyle in the lineup. I've never attended a PMG concert that wasn't excellent no matter who was playing in the band.

[@guybettyrahem3937]

LE PLUS GRAND GÉNIE DE L'HISTOIRE DE LA MUSIQUE.LE PLUS GRAND BINÔME DU 20 ÈME SIÈCLE.LE PLUS GRAND GROUPE DU 20 ÈME SIÈCLE TOUT SIMPLEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!; PAT METHENY seul ou avec le PMG m'emmène la ou personne ne m'a jamais emmené dans les étoiles DIEU est descendu sur terre et il s'est déguisé en PAT METHENY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! L'homme et le groupe qui ont réinventé la musique au 20 ème siècle.aucun mot ne peut décrire leur musique il faudrait en inventer de nouveaux !!!!!!!!!!!! je l'ai vu avec le groupe de nombreuses fois en concert à Paris et à chaque fois c'était SUBLIME et INOUBLIABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pat et lyle ( reste en paix mon ami tu es au paradis maintenant) sont des EXTRA TERRESTRES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quand aux autres musiciens qui ont fait partie du PMG ce sont tous des génies aussi.mon époque préférée est l'époque Mark ledford ( lui aussi nous a quitté malheureusement) David blamires et les immenses Armando marcal et Pedro Aznar !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UN GROUPE HISTORIQUE.DANS MILLE ANS ON ÉCOUTERA TOUJOURS LEUR MUSIQUE EN ÉTANT TOUJOURS ÉBAHI PAR LEUR IMMENSE GÉNIE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ÉTERNEL PRODIGIEUX EXTRAORDINAIRE FABULEUX AHURISSANT MONUMENTAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Le seul musicien dans toute l'histoire de la musique à avoir obtenu 10 GRAMMY AWARDS dans 10 catégories différentes ( en réalité il a obtenu 20 grammy awards pour un total AHURISSANT de 38 nominations ce qui fait un ration nominations Victoire complètement fou !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) La musique la plus complexe et riche tout en étant d'une accessibilité renversante !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! La musique la plus UNIVERSELLE jamais produite puisqu'elle s'adresse à nôtre ÂME et à nôtre CŒUR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HALLUCINANT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Guy

[@tiffanydouglas2686]

Jim Beard (keyboards) is particularly on fire with this number.

[@jazzfusioner9840]

Truth...

[@badgerguy88]

absolute genius and astonishing creativity backed up by soulful skill. breath-taking. thank you for sharing.

[@jsierrav]

Simplemente, músicos de otro nivel!!!.

[@mic44lee44]

This Is a Marvel In the Making !!! I am Finding New Things About Him (Pat Metheny) 42 String Guitar 🎸 !!!! Nothing Short of a Modern Marvel !!! Thank You 🙏🏾

[@estebanmartinezfragnaud9477]

una obra maestra a la nos tiene acostumbrado pat, con un elenco magistral, gil goldstein , jim beard notables, blamires ledford wertico, de winkel , la raja gracias por postearlo

[@ronaldhirsch9249]

SUBLIME !!!!!!!!

[@Ourtown_English_Schools]

Absolute masterpiece 👍🏼

[@drwilsonrj]

This is the song I use to test new music equipment. Turn it up loud and adjust settings accordingly.

[@vicdudu3826]

Quel morceau de musique formidable de la part de "Patou". Toujours en extase a l'écouter. Merci pour tout Mr Metheny!

[@litopatino]

Excellent !

[@Donato-nj4xt]

30 anni prima, 2 gruppi musicali made in Italy hanno affrontato questo "laboratorio musicale" Nei primi anni 70 i famosi AREA, seguiti di li a poco dai famigerati P. F. M. con un tour stratosferico in U. S. A ed riconosciuti in tutto il mondo... Pat ed il suo seguito.... li conoscono molto bene...

[@charlesmaeger6162]

Peter, thank you for the post of this very Eastern song by Pat Metheny. (East finds West)(West finds East)? Check this out. Posted to KZbin Music: "Choir of the Cambodian Royal Palace."

[@jazzfusioner9840]

One of the greatest albums ever conceived....and tours....to pull this one off on tour is mind blowing......Gil and Jim are just amazing on all aspects keys....and Gil on the accordian.....like Toots on the Harmonica....deep.....

[@deb4wakeforestNC]

Love love love love love you

[@nelsintosh]

I saw this alive in Caracas, Venezuela. Teresa Carreño Theater. Wonderful experience and privilege.

[@LuizFernando-mn5gd]

Essa música é uma obra-prima

[@johncrispin2118]

Superb PMG (apart from the moronic advert interruption from google. )

[@jerrydecoster6183]

Brilliant!

[@juliusbrown3834]

Always like this song...Pat Metheny I have almost all his stuff.

[@kevgh3869]

me too, too.

[@JorgeBrown]

I love it! Universal is the closest word I can find to try to tag it. It is a wonderful trip inside and outside!

[@jazzfusioner9840]

Truth....

[@tmarko06]

HEAVEN ON EARTH FROM 06:39

[@maryexstroughtonaire4244]

Doo wah daba deeba!

[@JorgeBrown]

I just can't stop repeating it...endlessly. From all versions of Fidind and believing, this is the best! Universal, upheaving, inspirational, mind-blowing...I have no words to describe it! I do love the talent and the music Pat writes but this one is awesome!

[@pruchechristophe1173]

❤ ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤que dire de plus

[@escanorackerman5572]

uno de mis fovoritos de todos los tiempos

[@jamesevans7440]

amazing.pat speaks from another dimension be on this world

[@charlesmaeger6162]

James, There's a post to KZbin Music you might like: "Choir of the Cambodian Royal Palace."

[@casisame6776]

The best fusion musician! ❤

[@DEDZU786]

Gee I like that girl !

[@almaguapa-sailboatliveaboa440]

That is a tough one to play. So many instruments, rythms, repetitive, … fantastic.

[@danmason8427]

I saw this show in Sept 1993 at the Roxy theatre in Atlanta. Fabulous. The air conditioning quit just as the show began. So the venue opened all the exit door to try and get a cross current. Atlanta in September, am I right? My then gf was sensitive to heat, and was threatening to have to leave. Also, I was illegally parked behind the building and worried there would be no car there after the show. I remember the temp started to regulate about the time they played this song, and she was better. After the show we rushed out back to find the car before APD did, and lo, it was still there. As I turned on my lights, I lit up the back of the building and saw Pat's unmistakable hair backlit. I said, "I'm not missing this chance." For the next few minites we hung out behind the venue and met Pat, Ledford, Wertico, And Gil Goldstein. The thrill of a lifetime. I just wish I could have met @SteveRodby and @DavidBlamires.

[@manuelmolinagomez1163]

Inconmensurable.

[@chrissupport]

One of the most incredible songs ever written. First time I heard this (live version), Pat's solos at the end (after Jim Beard's piano solo/second round of vocals) blew my mind... two or three times, when it seems he's winding down, he moves to a "higher level". How does Pat write in these vocals? With any instrument, the notes, timing, and "mood" are defined - notes can be written for vocals, but how does he get the singer to make the sound? (say "do it like this".. and knock out a couple bars of the sound he wants?). Pat Metheny uses instruments to 'form lyrics' and voices to form instruments.

[@lulubelle5863]

I've always wondered the same!

[@dwightpayne4264]

He only has the best musicians accompanying him so we can only expect the best.

[@RealDocJames]

Man and to top it off, it's so crazy to know they were doing all those vocals live. Most others would use backing tracks and or samples.

[@a.calvin6120]

Poetically well said. Just think, this music will reach many generations who discover PMG. A true musical wonder and treasure!

[@ewaf88]

Incredible track - I often play this album on long driving teips

[@AlexWoodGarbage]

Heard this on a podcast - was not expecting two dudes for the vocals. Amazing.

[@allanox]

me neither, sounds like an entire choir, especially on the album version, probably thanks to the thoughtful use of effects by the sound engineer or the band itself

[@olafaalop1188]

Massive

[@ofdrumsandchords]

You forgot to mention Paul Wertico on drums and probably Steve Rodby on double bass.

[@beatcrushproductions6949]

yes

[@williamroark]

That’s Steve Rodby alright!!!

[@franciscocorna2185]

Gracias a la vida existen estas canciones para salvarnos del mal. Esto compensa con creces los malos tragos. Gracias

[@almaguapa-sailboatliveaboa440]

First time I listen+see this version. Just exquisite! Thx PMG.

[@Carlos-xd3em]

Drums - Paul Wertico.

[@apusista]

One of well over a hundred brilliant compositions and his unique style... I wonder, is he the GOAT?!! In jazz for sure, in genres it would be John McLaughlin.

[@user-fc2we6by3v]

Fantastic!

[@davidmolefe283]

Too beautifull....i Love it so much...Brilliant Pat Metheney David Molefe ( Soweto )

[@flame-sky7148]

Universal

[@jimicoltrane]

I remember when I first heard this song I thought the vocals were performed by petite Asian women!

[@bighousegil8977]

Ahahahah me too

[@rdpatterson2682]

Pat brought in the Cambodian national choir for the album.

[@pepitopacquiao]

Ikko Tanaka El Arte del Cartel Japones, Centro Cultural Arte Contemporaneo Campos Eliseos y Jorge Eliot en Polanco CDMX 1995

[@michaelholst4457]

Selten ist ein Stück wie dieses so gut gelungen an Kreativität und Innovation sprich Emotionen pur ! Ware Lebensfreude an der Musik 🎶 " Klingt wie ein Soundtrack eines Films 🎥 das da leben heißt

[@go2mac]

This song can't be played live supposed to be. Pat Metheny and group is probably the only band that plays live like on the record.

[@juanjohnn]

Gotta love 7/8

[@annadavide8007]

Ho la pelle d'oca !!!

[@cassiecat7038]

Wonderful piece but I love Cathedral in a Suitcase from the album the most

[@btothek4989]

Shout out to the accordion!!

[@reconquistaahead1602]

mark ledford rip+

[@frankmoya4034]

close encounters of the third kind

[@simeonbanner6204]

FAscinating at 6mintues how it's like film music.

[@marziamazzali2898]

BELLISSIMISSIMASEMPRE

[@gordonpsmith8958]

Well, that’s just not fair. Why does Pat Methany get 29 different notes to create with, while all of us mere mortals only have twelve? 🧐 And don’t get me started on time sigs and rhythms! It takes some amazing and intelligent musicians to bring his brilliance to our ears - we can only hope what’s being produced comes close to what he’s hearing in his head! (But if I ever get ahold of the middleman who sold adverts for the MIDDLE of one of his songs…)

[@michaelvaladez6570]

Saw this in concert, first time seing Pat Metheny ..i love this album, hearing it live was just amazing.You have to wonder where does this high watermark of composition come from..i had read in a article that he wrote this music for his wife.An incredible artist.

[@charlesmaeger6162]

Michael, check out a post to KZbin Music: "Choir of the Cambodian Royal Palace."

[@adelepassaro6125]

U mamma mia

[@pajoafonso3490]

...also with :*Drums, Percussion - Paul Wertico ;*Bass, Co-producer, Producer [Associate] - Steve Rodby

[@alanblakeguitarist]

Amazing Feeling on this song!!! Where's Lyle?

[@rubicon1983]

Alan Blake with his lover at the time

[@torch1108]

Pat's solo project.

[@sasquash1957]

Only 160 likes ! Shame on you all,except them 160 human beings, and as for the deaf and blind single guy, go to Justin Beiber concert, don't miss it !

[@looper9264]

All these years I thought it was young Japanese women performing the background vocals...imagine my surprise.

[@torch1108]

Cambodian choir.