Bluetti EP600 Overview & Remaining Solar Roof

[@tomaszkarwik6357]

2 videos in 2 days. You are overworking yourself marco

[@klazarovful]

So that is for this year?

[@radomane]

Marco yesterday: If the building burns down, I don’t expect the insurance company to cover anything. Marco today: My family lives downstairs

[@adlerweb]

I heard depending on the type of family (mother-in-law), the urge to let something burn and family is not quite exclusive ;)

[@fluke196c]

ahahah this is great

[@Wtfinc]

Trying to put this where it might possibly get an answer. The little girl in the sun on the title card of the video. Where is she from? Like, where have i seen her? An album cover? It might be a boy with long hair idk

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

@@Wtfinc It's a common meme photo.

[@Wtfinc]

@@hxhdfjifzirstc894 wonder where it came from. Kinda looks like one of the girls from an album cover of a song and a band I listen to all the time but for some reason i draw blank.

[@vincei4252]

Yeah, not feeling the smartphone app. Just need a web browser to get info from the Solark. I hate that I have to connect to a remote server just for live updates, though. If the internet goes down the monitoring doesn't work at all. 🤬

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

I don't buy anything that requires an app.

[@randynovick7972]

I did not expect to enjoy the DIY solar episodes as much as I do. Thank you.

[@scottwilliams895]

The casual side comments ("wired for 3 phase to the house, as lots of homes are", time of use pricing) makes me soo jealous of how far in front Germany/Europe is compared to U.S.

[@DMSparky]

Single phase makes alot of sense in North Americas size. For 99% of residential use cases it works just fine. As a North American commercial electrician I definitely recognize its advantages. With time those advantages are starting to decrease. Three phase is obviously superior when running motors but so many motors are powered by ESC’s these days that a lot of the time the single phase gets rectified anyways. That being said a 3ph toaster or kettle would be nice 😂.

[@timomiller569]

I would assume they chose the touch-proof connectors in the batteries over screw terminals since batteries tend to be live most of the time while the inverter doesn't need to be. Screw down the terminals on the inverter first, connect the batteries afterwards and it should be a reasonably safe operation.

[@namAehT]

Two videos back to back? What is this madness? Not that I'm complaining.

[@Tehrasha]

I died a little inside when you said "The only way to interact with this thing is with a smartphone app."

[@BrilliantDesignOnline]

Why do I always get a mad scientist vibe from Marco?

[@ZetkoCZ60]

Man with so much knowledge of electronics, yet he puts trollface into his video. Maybe that's why

[@BrilliantDesignOnline]

@@ZetkoCZ60 Such a brilliant dry sense of humor; the thumbnail 🙂

[@techjack1848]

"A B500 Battery weighs 56 Kilograms, so its' definitly a team-lift operation." Also Marco: *Casually carries it alone*

[@mumblbeebee6546]

Just after I overcome my SOK craving you bring Bluetti and golly they are yummy. What a time to be still alive when the market finally kicks into gear and brings home systems like these!

[@ominguti6345]

Cool video. I've built my own grid tied spare power selling solar system in EU too (in Poland - I assume regulations are very similar, being based on same EC laws) so I can share some insight regarding the approval process. First, here in Poland an on grid PV system can be legally "signed off" by an electrician that has PV certifications, or normal 1kV certification. I have friends in the building industry and I managed to find an electrician with the latter to sign off the paperwork. Then there is an inspection before it is grid connected done by a guy from the electric supply company. He doesn't care what qualifications the person showing him around has, but the inspection is very thorough. He asked to have all electric boxes opened and removed covers to see the wiring, he took photos of everything, he looked at the inverter's panel and pressed buttons to see if there are any errors etc. Before I found a sympathetic electrician I briefly considered doing that "1kV certification" myself. All it takes is a bit of self learning and an online exam(2 in 1) that costs 150EUR. No prior qualifications are needed and the paper let's you inspect your own electric system at home for insurance purposes so no need to pay someone to do it anymore. In the end I didn't have to do it, but maybe if this is similar in Germany you might want to do this instead of trying to find a pv electrician to sign off your diy system. Before I did the research and I found my "sympathetic electrician" , I rang a number of local PV companies. I basically got laughed off the phone when I asked if they could inspect my self-built system for a fee (despite being an EE as well as having worked as a residential electrician's mate as a teenager - so I know how to do it properly). So, I'll reiterate, there is no point whatsoever trying to talk to any PV installers, if "normal" electrician can sign off on your paperwork in Germany, you'll do much better finding one. After building my system for essentially 20% of the cost (my panels came from a banrupcy sale, new unused, but the remaining 50% is purely installers fee) I can tell how much those PV companies (over)charge for their work. I had my entire house wired for less than half in labour what I was quoted for, to install my tiny ground mounted system. BTW, I've built my own frames too. As my panels are thin-film single pane of glass borderless panels that saved a lot of money too.

[@justOffgrid-ph7uo]

Hej Marco, any new updates about the Bluetti EP600.... 🔋☀️🔋

[@sayswithoutgoing]

Clicked the video, watched it, jumped back, saw the new thumbnail, came back to say: Wonderful thumbnail work!

[@yo_its_splinter]

A Person filming Marco? How interesting.

[@ulwur]

Interesting! I believe this is a first!

[@cryptout]

I see a trend here, you are the 2nd youtuber that did a sox install and was contacted by blueetti.

[@-MrDontCare-]

You are the "best" neighbor to have. 😁

[@andymouse]

Good luck with the paperwork...cheers.

[@nodashipl]

ahh thank you advertiser deadlines for forcing marco to post videos on a regular basis

[@Schniels65]

For all Germans: Da die Anlage unmittelbar mit dem Netz verbunden werden kann ist es keine Inselanlage und muss angemeldet werden. Nur wenn keine Verbindung zum Netz möglich ist, ist es eine Inselanlage.

[@sennlich]

Du bist aber geimpft ;) Zweifellos ;) So ist brav ;) Sei ein guter Deutscher ;)

[@ChipGuy]

Really nice closeup of how the brackets for solar panels need to be mounted if the roof is laid using Frankfurter Pfanne.

Interesting, Blueetti should implement a off grid mode with a transfer switch. In case solar or battery is not enough to power your appliances it switches to grid power and the solar charges the batteries. A no red tape mode for regulation heavy countries. ;)

[@NiHaoMike64]

Just fit a standard mains plug and do not enable the export mode? Then it's basically a UPS with some extra smarts?

[@tobimai4843]

@@NiHaoMike64 Still not allowed as you are able to feed back to the grid. You have to be physically unable to feed back or else you have to register it

[@NiHaoMike64]

@@tobimai4843 How would they ever tell if that mode is never enabled?

[@eDoc2020]

@@tobimai4843 I can't imagine the rules being that strict. A typical line interactive UPS like the APC Smart-UPS is physically able to feed back to the grid but is not programmed to do so. Do those need to be registered, too?

[@powerwall]

Do you review 5.12Kwh, and 11.8Kwh battery?

[@jotaxc]

I have one EP600 in Latvia. It works amazing. I run the house with it a 6kW solar panel array (2 strings of 3kW), specially now with sunny days (mid-May). Once the 2 EB500 batteries are at 80% the surplus feeds the grid... I will need the grid credits in the winter when the solar radiation is low and the days are shorter, but for the time being (spring until early fall at least) my home is self-sufficient. By the way, this is a household for a family of 4 and heating is with heat pump.

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

Like the clay tile roofs in Europe, so long lasting and so easy to make modes. In Canada the asphalt shingle roofs are a scam, guaranteed to need replacement every 15 years providing long term employment for roofers. When I built my house I went for a steal roof, will never be a concern in my life time. Also it was easy to attach my solar panels to the roof high points for a water proof installation. Thanks for including us in your solar build.

[@jamesdcuk]

We still use felt for our outbuildings in the UK. My last house had a slate roof that was already 90 years old when I moved in. Over the 8 years I was there it just needed a few cracked skates replacing at a cost of about £60 and the ridge tiles re bedding in (about £200). In the same time both of my new sheds (with felt roofs) leaked and needed reroofing, so I can feel your pain!

[@InssiAjaton]

My childhood home had originally been built with tile roofing. According to my father, the flatter top section was O.K. However, the surrounding steep section could not handle the melting - freezing - melting cycles of snow. So the roofing was at some point replaced by galvanized sheet metal. That lasted fine for decades. I am pretty sure its demise became evident a little after we replaced our wood burning heating with an oil burning (easy to manage) central heat. I remember on my occasional visits to the roof a bitter sulfur smell. Anyway, in a few years the roof had to be painted with rust inhibiting red paint. We joked that now we had again the roof color about the same as the original architect selected tiles color. I just checked and the two-slope roof style is called "mansard style". Apparently may even today be fine for less snowy climates, even with tiles. But not for snowy latitudes!

[@universeisundernoobligatio3283]

@@InssiAjaton Yes I like my steal roof, when I was a teenager my dad would send me to tar sections of the asphalt shingle roof to extend its life. Decided if I ever build a house its a steal roof, thats what I did when I final built a house. Have seen lots of clay tile roofs in Europe , hoped they would become popular in Canada but it hasn't happened.

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

Kind of glad of the regulations on adding a grid tie zero export inverter here in the UK. Under 3.68kW (16A), you can install it and you let the network operator know within 30 days (G98), if it's over that limit, say a 5kW inverter, you need to apply and they'll tell you what you can do (G99). So as long as you're using an already existing circuit, which most UK homes have an old immersion heater circuit doing nothing (which just so happen to be 16A circuits too), then you can install it 100% yourself, fill in a form and email it off. Just in the process of installing my 3kVA inverter.

[@notjustageek]

The only downside to installing yourself is that most (if not all) energy suppliers won't pay for any energy you export. They require a MCS accredited installer / appropriate documentation.

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

@@notjustageek If you're doing self consumption though, getting MCS for export isn't a problem. It's why I went with the 3000kVA inverter, come under G98 and highly unlikely to export.

[@pesterenan]

Oh boy oh boy oh boy!!! How I wanted to buy a system like this for me here in Brazil! Would cost more than a house for sure, but it would be AWESOME!

[@olik136]

do you think you houses are cheaper- or are solar installation that much more expensive?

[@pesterenan]

@Oli K solar installation is definitely more expensive here in Brazil, I was exaggerating a little, but yes, it's pretty expensive. Just 4 280ah LiFePO4 cells, without the BMS, costs 8 times the minimum monthly wage here... so sad.

[@Litruv]

What's the point of the rubber gloves? I see you can use your smartphone with them on, so are they really doing anything to protect you?

[@grubboy3514]

Great video Marco, but i was more worried about you being on the roof. Nice to see you survived for more ppm capturing videos...

[@wzk921109]

No update yet? I’m looking at one of their system as well, choosing between 600, 760, 800 & 900.

[@rodfer5406]

Nice. Look forward to the analysis. 👍

[@The_Traveling_Clown]

Tenants can make modifications to rental apartments in Germany 🇩🇪?

[@EtecMax]

Normaly not, no. But if you know your landlord good and ask and he says okay it is possible. Maybe he rents from family or something, it is not something that is standard.

[@tobimai4843]

obviously yes. You just have to return the apartment in the state you got it. If he rents the house, the roof is his, if the rents the flat the roof belongs to the landlord

[@kwinzman]

Yesterday you wave 4 SOK batteries in our face. Today you're basking in BLUETTI sponsorship deals. I see you're doing OK :P

[@rodfrey]

"50 year old boomers".

[@GarmnCX]

Are you interested in reviewing and disassembling your axpert solar inverter?

[@MCsCreations]

Fantastic equipment indeed, Marco! Thanks for the video! 😊 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@BobHannent]

I'm curious to know if they are resistant to a modest snow around them. If the outdoor rating is really outdoor, or just under cover.

[@olik136]

it said IP65 in the chart which means that it is dust-tight and can withstand being hosed down (with a garden hose, not a power washer). So the temperature would probably be the main concern, not the snow itself.

[@scottwilliams895]

What an impressive product!!

[@paulnero3885]

Ich hab mein Wasser bei dem Leider Geil ausgespuckt, danke dafür xD

[@experimentalcyborg]

Since it has a wifi dongle rather than built in, could they add a local terminal accessory later that replaces the dongle?

[@ciano5475]

Or wired ethenet

[@experimentalcyborg]

@@ciano5475 sure as long as there's a non-proprietary, fully local way to control the thing.

[@DracoEX]

Wheres the review of the ES15 Screwdriver?? its stronger then the ES121. Your Drillpress needs a redesign to fit it ;)

[@johnkelly7264]

I got EXACTLY the same roof tiles on my house in Australia!.. I've run out of spares. Can you send me some? '). This was a great first video of the day for me.

[@TheHuntermj]

I was wondering what you think of my idea of having a small solar PV (1-2kW) and small lithium battery (~300 hundred watt hours) system for lighting and low power TV/device charging at night on one circuit and then using a higher power solar PV system without a battery to power high wattage devices like washing machines, dryers and ovens, heating/cooling etc and heating a large reservoir of hot water during daylight hours. The benefit would be minimal cost for equipment, with the detriment being you would have to plan high energy usage for during the day.

[@emmabestoff9124]

Jetzt drehst du vollkommen frei :D, wenn du mal Hilfe beim Tragen brauchst, sag einfach Bescheid

[@wjhann4836]

Well, the batteries are NOT connected as they should. In that configuration the downward batteries are always used less - other way around, the top battery will wear out much quicker than the others.

[@998theraff]

How many tonnes in batteries do you have??

[@KF-qj2rn]

EMP skyburst or enemy shelling would be an issue, though it is silent whilst ugly/expensive, I would prefer a steam power generator solution using scrap/waste as fuel. Does the lithium battery explosion issue concern? The main benefit is silence...

[@3v1Bunny]

how much for an device that needs to link up with a second device to debug ? does 1981 count as boomer these days ?

[@dfgaJK]

10:30 Isn't zero amp export mode a safety risk, due to the risk of worker electrocution during maintenance on a (supposedly) unpowered line?

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

No, because it would monitor the grid, and disconnect when grid power is lost, as with all other zero feed in inverters.

[@oliverer3]

The one we have automatically disconnect from the grid if grid power is lost to mitigate that issue. I believe it's even independent of the inverter itself for increased safety.

[@dfgaJK]

@@sarahjrandomnumbers is the disconnect between the grid and the home or just in the inverter? I.e. Does it still act as a ups in that mode?

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

@@dfgaJK My victron uses 2 isolators on the input, as well as disconnecting the grid earth, so it can drop into UPS mode for things attached to AC out 1. So you can have it supplying power for zero export, or as an islanding ups system. Just depend who you go abouting wiring it. Mines just wired for self consumption, so it's not connected between the grid and consumer unit, it's just connected to the consumer unit like any other appliance.

[@nickp1987]

The "smart phone app only" bit really rubs me the wrong way.

[@mavamaarten]

I hope the gray stuff underneath your roof tiles isn't asbestos

[@m4dizzle]

Have you seen Linus' heated solar panels? Interesting stuff

[@BlahBlahBleh317]

I love the thumbnail 😂

[@thewolfin]

Another nice bit of kit shot in the foot by app-only operation. Edit: Tech-jaded elder millennial here

[@wither8]

If you do this again, a winch (~200$ USDAvE has a video on a mini-Kito and on how to open one up and extend the winching length to an arbitrary amount, just make sure you match the chain grade and size). You can get a used Kito rated to 3 tons static load vertical lift, for fairly cheap. I like Kito (big kito not baby kito) because the ratchet has a nice safe overtorque slip mechanism. And it's Japanese so its going to be overrated by like 5x. So even when you start slipping on the clutch, you know there's going to be at least 3x before you see a rope failure, and 5x before the assembly itself fails. These are "right" and "acceptable" ways to do it You "could" also use a ratcheting hand winch. These are normally used to move loads laterally, and are certainly not OSHA approved ASME/ISO/IEC certified/rated for vertical loading, but they'll do 2000 lb in tension for under $50 USD. Even with the cheapest junk from China, the two things you want to look out for are a) signs of rust on the wire, or really anywhere, or b, crappy weld joints. You can then do a loading test by just securing the winch vertically, hooking up a 20 kg load, and drop testing (being well aware that wire rope has an elastic coefficient haha -- use plastic weights). At this point I would feel 100% comfortable using this as a vertical lift implement for panels up to 100 kg static load with up to double dynamic, as long as no one is directly beneath, up to say 30 meters. Comfortable enough to stand underneath the implement, these are wicked conservative numbers. If you can have someone aid in stabilizing to minimize dynamic interial moments you've basically got no risk of injury, and a very small risk of rigging failure (which would likely only be due to bad rigging - which you wouldn't do)

[@deanb500]

Fun Fact: The baby in the sun in the thumbnail (Teletubbies) is now so old that she has her own baby. Yep. You're that old.

[@cashewmilkfan]

good video but the audio sounds a bit weird in this one.

[@Davvg]

The app thing makes this a no-go for me (not that I can afford these, anyway). Not that I expect them to go out of business or anything, just the idea that if they _did_ I’d have 10000+ euros of bricks

[@calaphos]

Thats a very fancy system, but for that price you can buy a lot of KWh from the Grid.

[@ViniciusMiguel1988]

The power of advertisement :D

[@jonathanguerra3663]

So does he own the house to be able to do all this work, is he renting is the landlord ok with this?? I'd like to know

[@fkiesel9442]

I would guess his landlords are his parents.

[@chiraz111]

Dude! That's harsh. 50-year olds aren't boomers. We're GenX...

[@tedwingate]

That really stung, but realistically it's our turn for justified abuse next.

[@sarahjrandomnumbers]

Boomer is more of a mindset these days than a "period of time you were born", because GenX'ers are becoming the next boomers in the way they act.

[@iamamixurnot]

I also hate it, that we, GenX'ers are always taken for Boomers! But that just shows, how irrelevant our generation was.

[@Cory-Stewart-]

non of my roof tiles have ever moved so easily.

[@morilamorila2825]

leider geil

[@schnibbelwind91]

I love these Amphenol Surlok connectors. I used them for my DIY LFP battery.

[@08yannch]

4:04 just dont fall lol even if you do its only one story of the edge. id risk it to work faster still not worth at $1k aud at least in Australia @28c/kw maybe if electricity doubles in cost or battery's drop by 50%

[@TechneMoira]

If living off grid is your goal, this is a very nice setup, however, at 15K € it is quite a pricey investment. I wonder how long the batteries will last and how much their efficiency will drop every year or per charge cycle. That combined with the efficiency drop of the solar panels needs to be factored into the initial price to give a realistic idea of ROI on the whole installation (the cost of an electrician and all necessary paperwork and insurance not included). That said, from a purely technical point of view it looks to be a powerful and very slick installation. Just like you mentioned, it's a pitty they only allow for smartphone monitoring (and being indeed a late boomer I do not trust smartphones entirely :) ) I'm looking forward to the complete teardown of the installation to have a closer look at the internals. P.S. installing the whole thing, PV panels included, is not a job for the faint-hearted in my opinion :)

[@Schniels65]

LFP Batteries usually do at least 3000 Cycles. And after that they still have 80% capacity left. Same is true for solar panels after 20 years.

[@Wtfinc]

Where is the kid in the sun on the thumbnail from? An album cover? A meme?

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

common meme

[@iamamixurnot]

"Teletubbies", I think.

[@bluesonkel]

=O wow.... ich versteh schon, warum DIESE Batterieverbinder benutzt werden.

[@SleepyChoco]

nice system

[@emanggitulah4319]

Actually some really capable setup that a not super pro electrician can setup

[@o0Vion70o]

Love it

[@PhG1961]

Bureaucracy in Germany?! Really??!

[@hxhdfjifzirstc894]

Papieren, bitte! Nein! Das andere papieren!!!!!

[@harihurtig6157]

Danke!

[@jahnkeanater]

WTF you can just slide open your roof tiles? Does Germany never have high wind gust speeds?

[@setSCEtoAUX]

8:57 "50 year old boomers" 😔 We're Gen X maaaaaaaan!

[@kwinzman]

Looks like a 10k EUR paperweight if they ever stop distributing the app.

[@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360]

I wonder if protocol can be reverse engineered and open sourced.

[@kwinzman]

​@@sdjhgfkshfswdfhskljh3360 Maybe. But what if they push an update to lock it down more? Could be unreliable. If I pay 10k I want it to work properly and not rely on some undocumented, reverse engineered hack.

[@defeatSpace]

The thumbnail 💀

[@JaredReabow]

Instill think an EV with V2L would be more cost effective

[@HeartOfGermany]

The Leider Geil was very funny. :D

[@Andre-pe9mm]

So interesting.👍👍👍

[@alexandertissen2433]

UI app only? no thanks

[@philliumo]

I've got to say, any long lifespan device that communicates ONLY through an app that might get killed in 5 years is totally unacceptable. It HAS to have a built in control interface or Ethernet connectivity for remote management or USB for local management or something.

[@bajstolle89]

This is Xmas!!

[@Gastell0]

These boxes are supposed to opened from these white inserts, unlocking them allows you to pull up the box sides with bottom staying separate, just like with big screens (42"+) =)

[@arminth]

Leider sehr geil! 😂

[@JustJ03cool]

Thanks for documenting this process. Awesome video series.

[@Hiasibua]

Sunglasses at the club? 7:33

[@jayjwin1178]

If all Germany politician are like Marco, Germany will be great again.

[@AnianBrosig-yv3jn]

7:32 leider geil 😂

[@hobbified]

On the other side of "people who don't like having just a smartphone app": gimme an API I can scrape.

[@contomo5710]

you didnt just give me a leider geil ohrwurm which i will have for the next weeks... noooo

[@pete3897]

I am also a keyboard warrior who finds himself on roofs, in ceiling cavities and under buildings at times! You're actually quite brave :) Nice work & thanks for sharing

[@iamamixurnot]

Prolly in Dungeons as well ;-)

[@John_Smith__]

1- 50 year olds are Not Boomers. 2- I think there is a way to reduce the time it takes to pay for the all system specially in Germany, that is ... during the Spring/Summer time let the excess energy gathered by the solar panels Charge your car/vehicle and there fore the savings will be hugely increased since you will go the fuel station that is way more expensive then electricity. If a person uses a electric vehicle all the time while there is good weather conditions, or charges the electric vehicle of a neighbor for example the time it takes to pay for such systems will decrease a Lot. Locomotion is by far more energy demanding then anything one can have in a house ... a normal ice car is about 50KW ... nothing on a house is more then 2KW (heaters at best) and those more powerful appliances are not connected for hours every single day. So if a person with solar panels charges his or other electric vehicles the system would be payed Much faster then only house electricity usage.

[@Kregorius]

App is the only way... Hell no! I have this half bonkers 18,5 kW solar setup. Grid tie and all the whistles. The app is a piece of... There's intelligent data logger in the electric box. It has web interface for local access. Works like a charm on pc and mobile.There's web interface for the inverter. Also no problems. There's web portal where all the data is collected and put on pretty graphs etc. Also works fine. And than theres the app... It never has the correct data what's going on with the system. Maybe the last data point is 15 minutes old, maybe couple hours. Sometimes theres a notice about app service for couple days (no data updates). Than theres absolutely bonkers or random data here and there on the graphs. It corrects itself by the evening but useless for noticing huge loads going sideways. The app is basically usesless for running the system.

[@michkar2192]

Leider geil

[@Ano_ny]

1:18 that looks like asbestos to me

[@MazeFrame]

If the house was built before 1993, possible.

[@adriancentra]

It’s plastic foil

[@DivinityIsPurity]

Lol @ thumbnail

[@Mr_ToR]

8:53 50year olds are gen-x not boomer.

[@OleJanssen]

Leider Geil.