Fans fixing Sonic Forces again.

[@prefix5253]

7:08 that was perfectly timed with the music holy

[@Funtime_x]

Yeah

[@prefix5253]

@@Funtime_x junk was sick

[@prefix5253]

@scoot the dark imposter i agree homie it just slapppss especially in the background music

[@marzipandormouse7410]

Knuckles: go wild Amy: dont push it Silver: go crazy Amy: am i a joke to you?

[@uruthebird9054]

Go crazy go stupid

[@Lssj]

Sakura: yes, yes I am.

[@jamiegioca9448]

Avatar: GODDAMNIT, WHICH IS IT???!

[@LateNightHalo]

In my opinion the best “modern Sonic” model was the Unleashed model but overall I want Sega to make a new model for Sonic. The “modern Sonic” model isn’t nearly as flexible looking as previous sonic games. His expressiveness seems severely limited by just how “round” he is. Sonic Adventure 2 is obviously SUPER dated but I wish they’d make a new HD model in that style

[@BeegChaosControls]

True

[@JuanPablo-su6vw]

A think the riders model do better the job

[@cd-rommasterclass19]

Adventure 2 Sonic looked great and so did proportions for the most part. ...but personally, I'd love one done in the same image as Adventure 1 (Dreamcast version) model; honestly, that's the best Sonic ever looked, to me, in 3D; eyes, hands, head, feet, spikes... proportions looked spot on overall, they got it just right, in 1998.

[@omegaxxsonic3314]

Yup the adventure 2 model is the best we had *ripped* tall sonic and now we have skinny cringy modern sonic

[@MiesterDX595]

@@omegaxxsonic3314 not the best but it's good

[@Shadowcu]

Sand Hill's looking a lot more like a stage right now.

[@ayakashi1-j7e]

@Mama Kangaskhan ??

[@ayakashi1-j7e]

@Mama Kangaskhan ok but u really shouldnt let your siblings use your acc online.

[@ayakashi1-j7e]

@Mama Kangaskhan alright, fair enough

[@farao7677]

Stage Hill

[@challelamel7396]

@@ayakashi1-j7e what did he say?

[@cringe9361]

7:41 *_[visible pain]_*

[@lowhp_comic]

"fixed"

[@HOL457]

I felt it too

[@milky243]

@@lowhp_comic they can’t fix classic sonics terrible controls lol, it completely reworked the level design though

[@mythosinfinite6736]

There's actually a mod to fix the physics for Classic. It's pretty old too. Not sure why it wasn't showcased here.

[@markaccino1786]

And kids, this is why you dont fix something that is not broken, to start with... even if it looks lame

[@yellowmello1223]

Modern Sonic?!?!?! Showing EMOTION?!?!?! THIS CAN'T BE POSSIBLE! THE UNIVERSE WILL ĪMPLØDĒ

[@Micah33088]

Modern sonic shows emotion in every game other forces and lost world

[@kagaillard]

This made me laugh because it's true

[@kagaillard]

@@sllvksacgsakjc9357 Pretty much

[@Micah33088]

@@sllvksacgsakjc9357 no he shows it it gens too

[@marr_cel]

SoNic UnLeAsHeD?!?!?!?!

[@GioPutty]

The mod doesn’t fix everything still feels a bit automated and linear but they are on the right track with the stage length

[@Nicu-vy3gm]

Its better then what sonic team did

[@KiwiJuiceSG]

I agree with you but I'm glad it's still a 10x better experience than the original.

[@DKPGames]

Yeah its better but its far from perfect. Not even the modders fault. Its worse than 06, its not just some glitches that needs fixing. The stage design is abysmal.

[@seijuroteichou5032]

I think the same, it seems to me that we are clickbait title 🤔🤷‍♂️

[@browhathow1397]

Mega oof

[@armandotejeda3832]

SeGA HiRe ThIS MaN -The Sonic fandom every time they see a mod and a fangame

[@madax4972]

So painfully true

[@toolstonygj]

Welp , that's true but i mean , sometimes they are right , but sometimes is like: In this mod sonic makes the middle finger Fans: " Oh My GoD a MaStErPiEcE "

[@MegaSombra]

ThEy'Re UsInG uNrEaL eNgInE iN aNy WaY tHeY cAn

[@ItsKayJeyD]

Theory: SEGA hires a fan every time someone comments that under a fangame. That's why Sonic Forces sucked.

[@armandotejeda3832]

@@ItsKayJeyD probably.

[@jourdintw]

thumbnail is pretty cool 💙.

[@matheusgamer157]

It's Amazing!

[@jayden.107]

I know everyone is gonna get on me but in my opinion the thumbnail is eh.

[@Jorx390]

It would be better if the avatar wasn't like that though

[@parzavulwatts5213]

Love how rookie is even loving what you guys are doing for the game. He looks so joyful!

[@hankunis2051]

Modern sonic sould run in a way that dosent make him slow. when he's running without boosting we should see him running with his hands spread out like there's.......endless possibilities.

[@anton2fangs]

I like it when they have sections of the level where you control sonic

[@SuperNerdyBros01]

0:48 Knuckles: Just Go Wild And Get Their Attention! People On Twitter Trying To Get Attention: I Already Tried That!

[@budbudburgeryes]

Yeah, you mean silver, right? That was NOT knuckles!

[@Kenzee]

I cant call this bad. This looks amazing honestly. Fans do a better job than SEGA.

[@______1457]

I agree

[@jpjpjpjp29292]

Sonic Forces was a Fantastic Game before Fanmade versions

[@gazbaz2684]

@@jpjpjpjp29292 🤢

[@tyronejones1398]

@@jpjpjpjp29292 People have opinions but this I agree because the entire mania team made of only fans got better ratings while Sonic Team takes all the time in the world, and still makes a game that disappointed the fans.

[@armandotejeda3832]

Not really. But this mod was very good to be honest.

[@trymetrix857]

At this point- just make the games hard. What happened to the quick-time events in Unleashed? Remember going off a ramp and having a combination of buttons you had to press really quickly or you would either die, take a worse path in the level, or just any other kind of punishment that was actually BAD? I miss that! Unleashed is my favorite because you can always keep your momentum and feel extremely good when pulling it off, and the werehog stages made up for there not being as much platforming in the daytime stages which I think was a great choice! Seriously, Unleashed was hard and I had to restart it multiple times- but that's a good thing because, like sonic said in generations, "an adventure is no fun if it's too easy!" Generations I feel nailed the formula though I still prefer Unleashed for being harder and more unique- Remember those extra challenge levels in unleashed and the Hard Mode DLC? Sure- the DLC idea was stupid, BUT THOSE LEVELS WERE ACTUALLY PRETTY GOD DANG HARD AND I LOVED IT- It wasn't hard because of horrible physics from sonic- it was hard because it took muscle memory and required actual skill. THAT'S ANOTHER THING- SONIC UNLEASHED WAS SO REPLAYABLE BECAUSE YOU HAD TO REMEMBER WHAT PARTS WERE COMING UP NEXT IN A LEVEL AND THE MORE YOU PLAYED, THE MORE YOU REMEMBERED MAKING IT SO YOU COULD GET FASTER ON EACH RUN, BUT IN FORCES, YOU JUST GO WITH THE FLOW AND ARE STILL MOST LIKELY TO DO GOOD Last thing, remember EggmanLand in unleashed? That level was extremely hard and I still have a ton of trouble on it when playing today... remember the last level before the boss in forces? you just press LB and RB the entire time..... Why do they try to make Sonic so god awfully easy? It's a "kids" game, but it's a game meant for everyone- please, just go back to Unleashed

[@Temzy]

Reject modernization, return to Unleashe

[@boostingpad]

I’m sure for whatever they’re cooking up might makes millions of fans happy.

[@Memesire]

I agree, it also seems like the graphics on games after unleashed dropped, the day stages were done really well and the shine of sonics shoes shows that the creators actually tried. We now have lower graphics and a horrible story.

[@Genesis-XE]

@@Memesire Lost World graphics were good, better than Forces.

[@Memesire]

@@Genesis-XE yeah that’s true although the stages were a bit awkward and not fast past like unleashed

[@MariusUrucu]

A bit passive-aggressive with the title, don't you think?

[@dalaxdercrisper957]

Well it's the truth. Fans shows improvement over Sega again and again

[@MariusUrucu]

@@dalaxdercrisper957 Truth or not, I expected a bit more professionalism from BlueVivacity considering he has like over 200k subs...

[@entruh4520]

@@MariusUrucu true

[@donathan2933]

@@dalaxdercrisper957 exactly

[@gabeskai]

@@MariusUrucu fair, but even professionals are likely to crack a bit of bias once in awhile when pushed as far as sonic team's been pushing. Like, how are all these people able to do for free what a full dev team couldn't do for money?

[@FirestoneAnimation]

Imagine seeing an 8-legged battlemech running towards you at 3 in the morning

[@zgiffish]

when chemical plant DIDNT end after he was “entering the chemical plant” and the dialogue kept going longer, i was surprised because it felt like the stage was gonna end after 1 minute not 4

[@VoiceParodies]

I wouldn't say that this fixed it, but it certainly made things more interesting. Not gonna go too hard on Sega here not everyone was able to return to work on the game and they had two inexperienced level designers. Give em' time to grow accustomed to creating Sonic stages. Also hire new blood, that's it, that's all. It was a pretty fun game but it could have been better.

[@balllord8580]

So true.

[@mythosinfinite6736]

It really wasn't a four-year game. The level design was really awful too, namely due to the people they had in charge of the level design (two newbies and the guy behind Lost World). This was a really bad decision on their part, since the level design is the most intricate and important part of a good Sonic game. The new blood should be put into less important positions to start off, rather than being delegated to jobs that are both critically important and which they have no experience in. Overall the development period was marred with bad decisions, poor management, and too many resets. I think the worst part was that one of the key developers was really proud to have made the most automated Sonic game yet, in their opinion; that really shows a lack of understanding on the part of that dev.

[@blackfoxalpha9708]

I love how sonic forces became sega’s equivalent to skyrim. The fans complete the game for them. Sad but funny in a way.

[@angrybombonandroid9719]

Sonic Forces looks like in 2020

[@SnoopleBoop]

I mean- Your not wrong

[@ryansonicspeed5080]

Yes

[@Kinra_Jade]

3:40 Another timed action would be good there too, determining if you get crushed or get away.

[@itsjojohnnyyyy]

This just goes to show that Sega rushing their games is putting the Sonic franchise down. If they spent more time developing the game and hiring better writters Forces could've been the best boost game, but nah, we gotta get that sweet hype money

[@melenacholy9170]

I honestly believe they'd make more money by actually trying to make a decent game that people would legitimately enjoy. and then those people encourage other people to play it.

[@rgilbert2951]

@@melenacholy9170 let’s hope the rumored SA1 remake will make sega realize that in the words of shigeru miyamoto: “A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad”

[@garretts6678]

Cha-ching!

[@iam4026]

If there wasn’t any intent on generating revenue, no games would be made. That’s how firms work, they are profit driven. You’d think they’d be a bit more money minded if they had a low budget

[@itsjojohnnyyyy]

@@iam4026 Sonic team budget was nowhere near to being low. Ffs they had enough budget to spent half of Forces development time to make the new hedgehog engine And I know firms are profit driven, but If they made you know ... A actually good game, they would profit a lot more

[@real7433]

My Unleashed and Classic nostalgia was killing me while watching this. brandonj is doing a fantastic job making this mod.

[@theanonymousgamer4638]

Your channel needs more recognition!

[@ItzSpecter]

I really hope in the New Sonic gane that there is no trace of a Green Hill zone. I get its iconic, but they've been beating a dead horse for a while.

[@TheHuskyK9]

Rookie going wild in the thumbnail lol

[@NutronicAtomic]

Still broken, Vector didn't tell you to find the computer room.

[@esselwastaken]

i was looking at the thumbnail and i was like wait why does this look so weird??? then i realised sonic was showing EMOTION.

[@thedragonsden2004]

Let’s add some more species to the character creator Humans Mainly a character that is purposefully weak for those willing to challenge themselves (which will appear similar to how they did it in unleashed)(also I’m aware of what Yugi Naka said and I think that’s crap) Axolotls infinite air underwater Jackals respawns with shield

[@lartts7483]

Bro having humans run around and turning into a ball would be silly and hilarious, it just wouldn't fit

[@gamejitzu]

I mean, the normal civilians in Forces are also weak. The point is one of them stops being powerless and turns Hero. Unless it's a joke DLC or something being weak would kinda go against the theme/story pretty hard Also the Jackals (or at least the squad) seem aggressive in Forces, so i'd see them having some attack or movement ability. Like idk, when you stomp it's shockwave has more range. or you get a short air dash

[@sarcasm-aplenty]

I know it wouldn't make sense but it would be neat to play as an echidna with the gliding and climbing (maybe with drilling segments like in sonic colors?)

[@SliverSceptile]

4:45 holy crap, the 3d section of the level isnt filled with obnoxious grinding the whole time 5:00 aw man

[@georgevasquez4797]

Question, while playing through chemical plant zone in forces have you ever boosted off or missed the rails due to how crappy the homing attack is in this game

[@lowhp_comic]

I dunno, still seems pretty auto-track and in Classics case it still looks broke af. It's gonna be hard polishing forces imo

[@Nicolas-we1ji]

A Member of Sonic Team: Okay, let's put some platforms there, a bit later a grinding-section here, a few enemies at this place and the trainee spread the rings over the whole level... aaaaaaannnnnndddd, we're done. Sonic fan: Boys, boys. Let me show you, how to make good Sonic leveldesign.

[@The_AuraMaster]

"Ya can't fix what ain't broke, doc."

[@threecubed3]

that moment when blue vivacity realises that there is no momentum bases physics for classic sonic in Forces lol

[@mistersureshot1749]

"HiRe! SeGa ThIS MaN...." Literally the Fandom LOL Edit: This is still an okay mod. But... I just want to point out that, Sonic Team/SEGA do listen, This fanbase is just so inconsistent of what they want, where its almost hilarious LOL

[@mistersureshot1749]

@that idle shantae guy "Joke" -> *Flies over your head*

[@asincereman5297]

@that idle shantae guy bruh

[@retron99]

it's sega's fault the fanbase is inconsistent

[@asincereman5297]

@@retron99 imo both sega/team sonic and the fandom are inconsistent Like, pretty much it's everyone's fault

[@danielledoeswhat]

“MAN! SEGA THIS HIRE!”

[@edthetraveller]

I think that Sega is making bad games on purpose at this point so fans can fix it themselves

[@masterfarr8265]

my personal favorite mods are the mania models mods because it lets you play as Tails in the Avatar stages and Knuckles in the classic stages. The Chaos boss, which is something that should've been here to begin with. The classic Sonic Improvement mod which basically makes Classic Sonic actually Playable and adds in a few new enemies to boot. And the Sonic Forces re-imagined mod which makes the levels interesting

[@woodman3926]

You know a mod has amazing promise when it looks like the original game but improves on the faults to make it more enjoyable

[@Fighter_Builder]

Emotions? In *_MY_* Modern Sonic?! _It's more likely than you think._

[@ryku2864]

In chemical plant, you didn't move faster so we can hear the music? If it is that thank you!

[@federicogonzalez3514]

Levels are longer than one minute? Nice.

[@MelohRush]

Stuff like this makes me want to by a 2nd copy of forces on steam just to play forces but better

[@davidthedark2211]

Vector: find the computer room Sonic: I'm I the computer room

[@starjosuke]

tbh...this is better than the original one, Modern Sonic is also more expressive, and i love the thumbnail sjjdnzbsjw

[@hilotakenaka]

Are there any mods that fix the god-awful enemy AI?

[@TrolluxCaptor]

I don't think classic's physics will ever truly be fixed no matter how many mods are used

[@InhumanFan98]

The whole plot of sonic forces seems to take about a few days to a week at most

[@jinji9735]

This actually looks fun

[@DaviddeBergerac]

I will be continually impressed at not only the dedication, but the skill implemented in cleaning up Sega's filthy shits from the shag carpeting. Like, no hate whatsoever, but at some point you have to ask whether or not it's just better to buy a new carpet.

[@megapikachu139]

If a certain Sonic fan can make a boss battle in this game, then it’s very possible that someone is able to make a drift function for Sonic.

[@LilRaptor_Jay]

5:37 “BAM”

[@Lssj]

They obviously didn't put enough time into this game if your left analog stick cant hold your player in place while running. Having to deal with that is what pretty much took the nostalgia and the excitement of this game away

[@who3730]

These new stages are looking awesome, I just wish it wasn’t for Sonic Forces

[@sergejduric6414]

Guardian rock:is that thing shooting rocks well i see n- i get the joke Iron fortress:wheres the iron should be called egg forgress Network terminal outside:we gotta capture the chemical plant Me:we didnt capture the chemical plant but we finnaly found the computer room

[@LittleLexi24]

Yes

[@ahmadkazan7994]

Aaaaand this why sega is not taking sonic seriously. People should stop the "FaNs FiX" clinche if they want sega to put actual work into the next sonic game.

[@BlueSmash_404]

And if Sega doesn't?,then who will?

[@Ausholliday15]

wow way to blame the fans for taking initiative to bring quality to a franchise when the fully professional developers does a shifty job.

[@hugoflores1093]

It's a shame that Fans need to fix the creators trash

[@mistersureshot1749]

@@Ausholliday15 thats because this fandom is inconsistent of what they want

[@EliteOcto]

Are you forgetting that they actually like tried to make sonic forces a return to the stories of sonic adventure they really just didnt have enought time or the right team

[@234SuperSimi]

Blue Vivacity Happy Halloween also

[@talonitex6441]

I hardly call this a fix when the enemy still never pose a challenge look at sky sanctuary in sonic generations or crisis city But it’s start

[@LuizHenrique9406]

Hmm, but the thing is, enemies was never a challenge, rarely you will die by the hands of them, most of the time, the killing is done by the mistakes of the player, it is rare an enemy actually trying to kill you in any Sonic game, one of the fews that I remember to actually try is Artificial Chaos in SA2, most of the time the stage enemies act more as an obstacle, of course most of them have some trick up his sleeve, but aways something among the of these lines: bashing, slow ass projectile and appearing out of nowhere. And since they all have a hitbox around them, they don't need to actually do something to pose as an obstacle

[@hankunis2051]

Also I would have the avatar with two bosses instead of one. Heres how it goes. After completing capital city infinite looks at him in a distance. Then the avatar sparks his interest. Then he brings out an infinite balloon resembling himself to attack the avatar. After defeating the balloon infinite says "I'm interested" and challenges the Avatar.

[@DemonDethchase]

The only way to fix Forces is scrap Classic Sonic and that THING and put a bigger focus on the other characters like Tails, Knuckles and Amy. As if they were actually doing something in gameplay it'd mean they'd have a bigger impact on the story as well.

[@BrenX1]

7:55 the true sonic satisfaction

[@arashitakagami6867]

That avatar stage was actually pretty good.

[@SkullZGaming_]

The only thing I whould have changed is you being able to actually fight Chaos

[@parlinmains]

Check out the Classic Sonic Reimagined mod!

[@shadic289]

Imagine how great this game would be if it had all the original voice actors before sonic free riders

[@fireflygaming8764]

Which ones, the OGs, or 4kids?

[@TheEmperorRaidou]

@@fireflygaming8764 4kids

[@MondyArtizt]

Thumbnail looks good, 👀👀

[@anxjos]

I think at this point fans had more develoment time for Forces than Sonic Team could ever dream of

[@mistersureshot1749]

....and? What else?

[@CuteTails_Doll]

Sega, Please.... *DON'T* Hire this Man.

[@RprSonic]

Wow, Levels longer than a minute. Now it's already an improvement

[@woomygamer4559]

I’m glad they knew most people’s pain by removing that one section from lvl 28

[@thetruej7872]

While this mod from Forces looks awesome, can we *PLEASE* stop with the "SEGA should hire this guy"? Jesus. Shut up with that. It's just as overused as the word "cringe & simp". It's annoying.

[@lunarlicorice]

just watching this was more fun than any time i spent playing forces

[@GUNS_jk]

How is Chemical Plant close to Green Hill? The two are on separate islands.

[@toolstonygj]

Pretty accurate title

[@ahmadkazan7994]

No Just the same crying thing said on every vedio and the reason sonic games are not getting the same budget as the likes of persona.

[@orangehat1924]

Ya'know just another ordinary day, fans trying their best to fix a flawed project. Totally normal in the Sonic Fanbase.

[@danielledoeswhat]

That’s kinda what I love about the Sonic community. In-fighting and questionable content aside, I like how it has this “Fine, I’ll do it myself.” attitude. For example, you can point fingers at bad fan fiction all you like, but for every bad fic, there are about a dozen more with authors who actually tried to tell a good story. Some fan comics even get recognized by the company ( _Murder of Me_ by Gigi-D and _Ghosts of the Future_ by Evan Stanley) and the authors are hired by IDW to work on canon material. And then there are fan games and mods like this one. The fact that the creators saw the canon content and went “I can do better” and actually _tried_ is impressive. The finished product might not be the *✨ABSOLUTE BEST EVER✨* but, more often then not, the goal is reached and the game is improved, if slightly. It’s inspiring, really. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

[@orangehat1924]

@@danielledoeswhat It was a pleasure to say the least.

[@tommyskannal6766]

Sonic will never be the same ever

[@dizzyheads]

This is just Sega's grand scheme to half ass sonic games and let the Fans complete them

[@sliceoflife1836]

Wait, you mean to tell me that those back drops in the level was playable to begin with but sonic team put us on the most short restrictive stage?? Wtf

[@joshstarr6400]

I wouldn't say this is "fixing." Slightly improving, maybe. But honestly (no offense to the creators) this isn't that much better.

[@syweb2]

It's hard to fix this mess without entirely rebuilding it.

[@Handepsilon]

Agreed. This really still doesn't feel like something I'd play myself

[@saricubra2867]

Why still this looks like a Temple Run game with a Sonic theme? The straight lines are very obvious.

[@saricubra2867]

@Noah Tabraham Same thing

[@JohnnyLCob]

*In the thumbnail, where is the picture of Sonic on the left from?*

[@ianmitchell5979]

I haven't played forces, so I have to ask. What have they changed/improved?

[@azurneon]

YES!!! Now the game is finally playable!!!

[@shoifu]

yo what's up i haven't watched your stuff in ages

[@ariastroke]

Ok i usually don't like how people will say "omg this mod is better than sonic forces" despite it being really mediocre but this wasn't the case these levels weren't just spike blocks on top of the regular layout so the title is deserved

[@Axxidous]

I've been reading your channel name as Blue Vicinity (but visualizing it spelled Blue Vacinity for some reason) this whole time til I paused on your logo and saw "viv" and was like..... wait wut? lmao My bad. XD

[@silly_eighty]

Happy Halloween blue Vivacity

[@TheMissingLink2]

At this point, Sega out to just release development tools along side the games just to encourage the modding community.

[@icebluesonic]

is it me or do the stages look a bit toned down in graphics also is it me or does classic sonic seem a bit broken

[@CharaIsNotEvil]

*I’m glad I actually got the game, the mods are desperately what I need to have a better experience at the game*

[@LostSoulSilver]

Mod to remove the 2D sections and replace them with Adventure styled gameplay when?

[@KaleBennett]

This reminds me a bit of Unleashed and Generations and how much I miss the Hedgehog Engine

[@gumi_twylit2605]

As soon as I heard all sonic's friends in the radio, I know it wasn't fixed completely imo

[@JohnnyLCob]

*What is the picture of Sonic in the thumbnail from? (On the left)*

[@JackOShake]

Feels good watching the intro again. Lol

[@ryderTheHedgehog2004]

do you think they can fix the lighting and graphics for the switch

[@cookieblobber]

"aw shit, here we go again"

[@hexospikez741]

This could make a good series. Just modders fixing an okay game.

[@juliansaunders5064]

The boost was pretty cool but the one on sonic unleashed was perfect

[@EDP___445]

This is great!! They just need to work in classic sonic a bit more

[@ManUnderTheStairs]

I still hate the fact that Sega ruined the boost mechanic. You can ONLY gain boost by collecting boost wisps and the boost gage can’t be filled with rings😔

[@notdemomantf2294]

Question: Will they go to the Death Egg using a rocket launched from inside a pyramid again?