It’s great that there’s options. Thank you for this information. Over the years according to logos I’ve spent $18,000. I have over 14,000 resources and I probably use 10%. I didn’t get to choose the resources to come with a package. I wished I would’ve bought the resources as I did my studies and needed them. This is great advice.
@jamesodell38662 ай бұрын
I upgraded my pro subscription (early adopter) to Max at the annual rate, and chose the Gold Researcher library which was just over $80 with dynamic pricing. This gets me the free course which is another benefit that is worth while. 🧠
@BillMcFadden2 ай бұрын
Got the max subscription which was discounted by 50% or so since I have over 20,000 books.
@markharris14229 күн бұрын
🧠 I appreciate you laying out the options, I will have to consider the subscription model. I am a long time Logos user, currently with version 10 but going back to at least version 1.7. My Greek and Hebrew resources are spread across Logos, BibleWorks, ebooks, and hard copy books. It’s not that bad since I know where to look for the resources. Having everything in one place might be worth it, depending on the cost.
@rodlebster2 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video and the previous one. Your explanation of the model is the best one I’ve seen. I have Logos 10 with a gold library and I upgraded to the pro subscription without purchasing a new library.
@BrianVollrath2 ай бұрын
I'm planning on keeping using Logos online without the subscription. I do not have extra funds right now for a subscription. I already have plenty of books that I have not read yet.
@LinvalLondon2 ай бұрын
🧠 I ended up getting the Leaders Silver library and will look to supplement as the years go by. Thanks for the good counsel!
@interstellarsynthesis56542 ай бұрын
I was looking at Calvin’s commentaries for $150, but it was included in reformed bronze with a TON of other books for something like $70-80 dollars. Thats crazy to me
@bma2 ай бұрын
Yes! This is the way to go!
@BeardedMi422 ай бұрын
I got Logos Gold 10 when with the big sale! I’m doing the max subscription!
@brianshank98642 ай бұрын
🧠 This was very helpful. Before this, I thought this broke bank had to get both a subscription and a library. Thank you for clearing that up for me!
@numberman9112 ай бұрын
I just signed up for the Pro subscription, based on your recommendation. I got about 400 more books in my library, I also got the print library feature, which I wanted to get separately before. I probably will not purchase any additonal library for a long time, I have more than enough books than I have time to read.
@shaynejohnston13 күн бұрын
I've had Logos 9 Basic + Baptist Starter for a while. I've just been approved for an academic discount. I like the printed books feature & the AI features are intriguing. I'm tossing between Logos 9 Silver/Gold or 2025 Silver/Gold. It sounds like a subscription is compulsory with a 2025 library. I've nearly finished a bachelor of ministry with the aim of chaplaincy or similar. - Thoughts?
@claytonsmith19062 ай бұрын
I went with the Logos 10 platinum library pre-subscription and now have logos max since it is on for a very good price if you previously had purchased a library and I dont feel like i will need much else for a long time as a Bible Study leader.
@mariag45382 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video! I plan to upgrade to the subscription but was unsure about the libraries. Now, I think I’ll hold off on adding a library since I already have a large collection of books.
@bma2 ай бұрын
Good call!
@jeannineloftus2 ай бұрын
🧠 thank you for the very helpful videos as I’ve been trying to sort out all the different pieces to make the best decision for myself.
@alexandersmith93852 ай бұрын
🧠 I purchased the Platinum package last year, so I am just going to finish paying for it for now.
@bma2 ай бұрын
I used the payment plans for a while when I was in seminary. Not since though. I don't like having debts over my head. :)
@jordantatom28002 ай бұрын
Thank you! I followed the link for the free trial and it is just taking me to a 30 day trial. Just FYI. I did go ahead and get the trial but I thought you should know. I have been a Logos user since Scholar's Library Version 3 (when it was mailed out on DVD), 2007. I most recently had Logos 10 Full Feature Set with Silver Library. I am testing out the Pro subscription since I am a preacher. I am bi-vocational so the AI tools should be very helpful--I have admittedly used Google AI; Logos AI should be more reliable. I will most likely get the two-years in advance option. I have not purchased a 2025 Library, yet. I have previously had: Logos 9 Silver, Logos 8 Silver with Background Library Expansion S, Logos 7 Starter, and the Scholar's Library (LE) before that.
@bma2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I found out that the trial basically doubles your default trial period. That means if you own Logos 10 you get 15 days (I think) and it doubles it to 30 days. If you don't have Logos 10 then it doubles your trial period from 30 days to 60 days. I hope that helps!
@shokwave002 ай бұрын
🧠 I just grab the monthly free books right now. I appreciate the tip to check for collections for a book you’re looking at buying though. A great way to expand your library and be getting something you’re actually using right now.
@bma2 ай бұрын
That's a good way to go. Keep it up.
@studyologos2 ай бұрын
I ended up going with the pro. I figured I could upgrade at a different time if it is actually good. Also wasn’t a significant difference for my already existing library between pro and max. Another savings was paying up front for the 2 year as opposed to monthly. I am also not that into the AI offering. I did grab a discount on the upgrade to library as there were a couple I wanted. The part I like is the courses they offer. I picked up a few in the last when on sale and wanted to try a few others but they have never been on sale so here is to hoping that they rotate them through! Have to juggle that with language studies will be fun!
@bma2 ай бұрын
Good thinking!
@Ministeriosreinoyeshua5 күн бұрын
Do you get to keep the library or is that a subscription plan as well?
@butch55112 ай бұрын
I don't plan on changing at the moment
@dr.jamieadamspleasantph.d.16092 ай бұрын
Not planning on changing at the moment. The Ai seems to only allow expedited searches and sermon outlines and question generation. I don't have a need for sermon developed by Ai or questions. The rest I can still do through internal searches.
@bma2 ай бұрын
The sermon AI is great for ideas... And there are other features. Take a look at bma.to/logoscompare to see what you get with each subscription.
@Johnged152 ай бұрын
I appreciate the explanation 🧠.
@ziadjawad2417Ай бұрын
What about the newbie. First time logos user. I’d like some good commentaries and dictionaries. But I’m completely overwhelmed with the total number of books and the cost. How does a beginner start without going broke?
@billmcfa2 ай бұрын
🧠Thank you, this was interesting and helpful. I already signed up for the pro subscription.
@dalevanderzee40862 ай бұрын
I purchased the 2025 researcher portfolio library with logos max subscription using the academic discount and maybe logos launch discount together for 35% off which cost me $2200.00. I already had purchased years ago the logos 8 with diamond library So I had some of the books already. I will see if this was the correct route for me to go, but so far I am impressed with the library of books. I figure that there will still be some over time I will need to get such as the Tyndale House Greek New Testament which unfortunately did not come with the library. I would like to know what additional books I might have missed in this particular package that I may need.
@bma2 ай бұрын
Wow. You must have a huge library to get that library for that price. Great deal!
@PausapraTeologia2 ай бұрын
🧠🧠 Right now I have a good library (about 10,000 books) and I am doing the Max subscription.
@BoneyWhy2 ай бұрын
What if I have some of the books in a 'subscription library'? I mean, if I see a 2025 library that appeals to me, will I be able to use all of it's features if say, I purchase only the cheapest subscription? Thank you brother! You are really, really doing a service to those of us who never learned the intricacies' of Logos to such a depth!
@bma2 ай бұрын
If you have some of the books in the subscription library, you'll still retain them during and after your subscription expires. I recommend selecting the cheapest subscription that works for you initially. You can always upgrade later.
@weisenbu22 ай бұрын
🧠 It seems you've gone from recommending the Pro subscription in the previous video to recommending the max subscription in this video. Did I miss something? Thanks for the library advice - it's very helpful!!
@bma2 ай бұрын
Not at all. I just happen to be on Max, but don't let that stand as a recommendation - I'm not convinced it's worth the price difference yet. Good spotting though.
@weisenbu22 ай бұрын
@@bma Thanks for clarifying. I did notice that the Max has several more features under original languages and some extra books for that as well. I would be interested to get your thoughts on those if you have had a chance to check them out. Thanks again for your insights and for the free trial link. I will be using it for sure!
@palmettohorn2 ай бұрын
Like @BillMcFadden, I got the Max sub and the discount with it. With 15K books/resources (since '99), I pretty much pick and choose as needed books/sets/library offerings as needed. Thanks for the helpful video!
@bma2 ай бұрын
That's what I do too!
@fisher811012 ай бұрын
Thank you! 🧠
@wadejnelson2 ай бұрын
I plan to get the pro subscription, not sure about a library, I have over 7,000 resources already, how much is enough ?
@bma2 ай бұрын
You're probably there. As a general rule if you've got 500 good books that you would use from time to time, you could say you've got a substantial library. The problem with buying these libraries is that you pay for many thousands of books, but only really find a small percentage useful. That's certainly my experience.
@lordwilliamstrickler1792 ай бұрын
Not applicable in the US, many more levels available here.
@donaldcannyjr12452 ай бұрын
🧠 I have the Max subscription on a 30 day trial. I am not sure I that I will stay with it. Maybe if the partnered with BMA for learning the original languages! 😂
@bma2 ай бұрын
Yes. We offer our members academic pricing on Logos. Its a nice perk, especially since we often recommend new books to buy.
@donaldcannyjr12452 ай бұрын
@@bma I actually meant as far as a max membership would include a membership with BMA to learn the languages. 😂 I guess one can dream. But thank you for the info on Logos discounts.
@bma2 ай бұрын
Nice idea!
@donaldcannyjr12452 ай бұрын
@@bma Thanks!
@drmmtatom2 ай бұрын
🧠 ~ Darryl, I’ve tried the link and it says 30 day trial
@bma2 ай бұрын
Thanks! I found out that the trial basically doubles your default trial period. That means if you own Logos 10 you get 15 days (I think) and it doubles it to 30 days. If you don't have Logos 10 then it doubles your trial period from 30 days to 60 days. I hope that helps!
@JonStallings2 ай бұрын
🧠 Went with the PRO. Might not add a new library
@EstudiantedeTeologia2 ай бұрын
🧠 Pienso que por el momento seguiré usando Logos sin la suscripción. La IA es útil pero creo que le quita lo divertido a pensar a uno mismo.
@johnnjax90952 ай бұрын
🧠I signed for the Max and because of my library, only received about 80 books. Thats ok though, I love the new subscription and really decided because of the AI.
@johnlaffoon79742 ай бұрын
🧠 max on the fly
@breesfan24762 ай бұрын
my biggest complaint is that logos pads the collections with worthless (IMO) older works to make it look like you are getting so much content, and puts the good stuff in higher price categories.
@bma2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is the problem with buying libraries. I agree.
@depdad2 ай бұрын
🤯I couldn't find a brain emoji :)
@tomkluender07602 ай бұрын
Silver /Pro
@JAS-co9dn2 ай бұрын
🧠🧠🤯🤯
@markmarkster2 ай бұрын
🧠
@ContemplativeSoul2 ай бұрын
BESURETODRINKPLENTYOF..OVALTINE? son of a
@JuanMoreno-wo5yb2 ай бұрын
What is Ovaltine? I have heard the name but I don’t remember what it is??
@rafeandersen89172 ай бұрын
Logos sold out to a wordly critera of doing business. To hell with them.
@Jim32W2 ай бұрын
After almost 50 years stumbling around; chances are I ain't gonna learn Greek.....so, no.