BMC's $1,600 Twostroke AL Review: XC Race Bike On A Budget | 2021 Pinkbike Field Trip

[@jisezer]

Am I the only one happy with the name, "Bike Manufacturing Company?" It feels so simple and correct

[@danielribas1109]

In Portuguese people say BMC stands for "Bicicleta Muito Cara" (Too Expensive (for its components) Bicycle)

[@robertd2795]

If you want the 1 x 12 Deore package, just go with the Twostroke AL 2 for $1200.00 not sure why they didn’t use that bike instead! Only other difference is the RockShox Judy instead of the Recon.

[@Calispeedboi]

BMC = Buy Mike Coffee... specifically Tim Hortons

[@takeit1229]

5:17 Am I seeing things or does the color of the bike change half way through?

[@gregellis4766]

I looked down to read your comment and looked up and it had just changed lol

[@romanphillips388]

it is not just you

[@rolux4853]

Yeah the camera guy really saturated these shots compared to the others. I was really confused for a moment.

[@netposerx]

BMC: "Bite My Chamois"

[@Charliehalterman]

YES

[@evantetford5148]

Big Momma Cycles

[@kyzersoze9002]

I bought the lowest spec version (AL SIX) and plan to upgrade the forks and wheels to make it a true budget XC bike.

[@farith911]

Same here 💪🏼👍🏼

[@jaybewan5447]

Bring money chumps - BMC Two more weeks and I get my Rocky Mountain Growler can't wait to see your guys review

[@Phonophobia]

its disgustingly good downhill you can believe me , you're a lucky dude to get your hands on one. Enjoy and keep the rubber down! :)

[@SuzukiKid400]

You’re lucky! How do you like the Growler? I just called my dealer and they’re not getting any in until August 2022!

[@NathanDobbinsthelordscheeps]

I feel the Giant Fathom should have been included in this shootout. Very competitive price/geo. Also want to hear thoughts on the Giant crest fork.

[@hardtailparty]

Another great review you two, thanks.

[@joshuaallswang8016]

Bro please review this bike! 🙏 I’ll send you mine!😅

[@nope929]

"Buy my crap" cycles

[@Charliehalterman]

lmao

[@rachelpanth5527]

I’m sorry for liking this comment, I increased the like count by 1 to 70...

[@kaenban3438]

You guys don't mention the brake specifications in a lot of these videos. As a review I think it should be mentioned.

[@dinosoarskill17]

I think their name is pretty cool.. Bell was originally called "The Telephone Company" And when you actually manufacture your own bikes in house, which is what I assume because of their name, that's something to take pride in. But I also come from manufacturing as well.

[@VodI2]

Just bought the last one I could find for sale in Denmark. Can't wait to try it out on the trails!!

[@lindonandlisa8114]

Love to see a comparison against that bike and the specialised Chisel

[@kihealthandwellness]

Thats exactly where I'm at... narrowed it down to these two...

[@funkyed985]

Chisel is a lighter frame

[@lindonandlisa8114]

@funkyed985 Just turn my chisel into a single speed and one of three hour race on it

[@Nicoya]

PB Presenters: Gotta do your yoga to reach this low front end. Me, a roadie: what is this beach cruiser fit, someone put a seatbelt on this so I don't slide off the back.

[@alicangul2603]

Are you a time trialist?

[@rolux4853]

I can’t get over the seating position on roadbikes.. If I ride one for more than thirty minutes my neck really starts to hurt. I restored myself a super nice roadbike from the sixties, which looked absolutely amazing with its brazed steel frame, that was completely chromed under the paint. It was such a huge disappointment for me that I wasn’t able to ride the bike, no matter which handlebars I tried. I ended up selling it with a big tear in my eyes, but the guy promised me to ride it a lot, which I like better than it sitting in my garage for years, collecting dust..

[@Nicoya]

@@rolux4853 Not gonna lie, it takes a bit of getting used to. But once you get over that initial period they can be shockingly comfortable.

[@MaQuGo119]

Cheaper than the X Caliber and with thru axle, it's a steal!

[@monroesbro]

Looks like the $1200 version comes w/ Deore 12x drive. At least the parts spec list, photos show Sram...not that anything is in stock.

[@moritzbluhm3362]

Burning Many Calories

[@Goodman-4525]

Information you never expect in the first 5 seconds ...

[@yannpordes7427]

Can you put pinkbike stickers on apple’s logo ?

[@blakef.8566]

No that's illegal

[@Wieber84]

Interesting request can I ask why?

[@yannpordes7427]

@@Wieber84 I think it would just be nicer than the Apple logo.

[@bathg1]

cant wait for the growler 40 why didnt you get the 50 tho ?

[@spencerh1803]

I think that they were trying to keep the hardtails under $2000. I think most people are waiting for the growler at this point

[@bathg1]

I am planing to get the growler 50 2021 Im just a bit worried about its brakes and some people had issues with the fork ..😐

[@benjacobson7490]

@@bathg1 tbh, get the growler 40 and use the extra money to upgrade whatever u feel like it needs, the 40 is better value

[@bathg1]

I was thinking about getting the orbea laufey h10 2021 But when i sent a massege to the bike shop They said its not available and orbea doesnt make the 2021 anymore And i have to wait till the 2022 comes out Tbh i liked the orbea more and liked the commponents more on the orbea but its not available About the growler 40 I cant find it here in my country + i found a good deal on the 50 for less than 2000$ new I dont know should i wait for the new orbea or get the growler 50

[@spencerh1803]

@@bathg1 check out hardtail party on KZbin, he has reviews on both bikes, and from what I remember, he says that the two feel very similar in most situations, the growler is just slightly better when the downhills get chunky... basically feeling slightly more composed.

[@danieleflorean7064]

Wonder how it would fare with some shallow flared drop bars

[@TotalCook]

Cool videos series Pinkbike! What i can't understand is how can you have an "economy" line hardtail comparison, without including brands like Ragley (amazing geometry and value for money) and Nukeproof, and perhaps Commencal. Is it only in Europe that these brands are well known as manufacturing bikes that have a great value for money?

[@ChristianEilers]

A mechanic from a store that sells them said that's the abbreviation for the type of rider that buys them, the type that will "Bitch, Moan and Complain" all the time.

[@JustinH72]

Pretty sure that's every bike

[@rolux4853]

I hate to admit it, but that suits the enduro crowd way better than the Cross Country crowd. I know that, because I’m from the enduro crowd.

[@CarouselSon]

are there two testing bikes in the clip? the orange and red one ???

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

Camera color saturation

[@CarouselSon]

@@harveyjoneswoodsman5956 I knew it man :)

[@TallGuyTrails]

Just bought this bike at my local shop. They still had a '21 in stock. Put a dropper on it and it flies! Great entry level XC race bike.

[@dominickregan2766]

Which dropper did you add to this bike ? Was it cable ready to add dropper ?. Thanks

[@TallGuyTrails]

I did a PNW Rainier. The bike has the extra routing in the frame needed to run the dropper cable if that's what you are asking.

[@dominickregan2766]

@@TallGuyTrails Great , thanks for the info.

[@joshuaallswang8016]

Mine is fully upgraded and Once it is. It’s NOT an entry level race bike. Bike is a rocket 🚀

[@TallGuyTrails]

@@joshuaallswang8016 what all did you do to yours? I upgraded the derailleur to GX too.

[@teecee4459]

Are you saying that you can't change the fork to allow more stack height to raise the handlebars if necessary? I thought that was always possible to do?

[@mariopejovic]

Nice looking bike. I wonder how it compares to Giant's XTC SLR 1. Should be close in price. Giant has better components, but uses Crest 34 fork...

[@neilasher8098]

I have the crest 34 on my bike and it's actually a decent fork. I wouldn't recommend it though, because a ton of the crest 34s out in the wild currently have issues.

[@mariopejovic]

@@neilasher8098 I am waiting for XTC SLR I preodered around New Year, and I am worried about the fork. Need to figure it out how to test it in the shop, when I pick it up. Hopefully I'll be in the lucky group. Thanks for your info :)

[@peglor]

If it'd take a front derailleur I'd be interested. If the chain guide on the carbon fibre version at 2:25 has holes matching an E-type derailleur it might be an option, but I've no interest in paying a premium for a less durable, more environmentally harmful plastic frames.

[@Vitas993]

I know it's been almost a year since your comment but even if chain guide could fit front derailleur, the frame wouldn't be compatible, there's no cable outlet anywhere in the frame (well, aside few centimeters from rear brake and derailleur, duh), everything (including dropper) is fully internally routed so no chance for 2x unless you'd have wireless groupset. Also chainring on stock 1x crankset is close to the frame, no space for inner smaller chainring with 2x Tldr: frame was made as 1x specific and it won't take 2x

[@grooveseeker6269]

XC is my thing, and this bike will be the next I buy, for sure :)

[@joshuaallswang8016]

Bike is sick your gonna love it

[@Larpy1933]

Hosts: Great. Videographers: also superb. Thanks. Good review.

[@benjustbenwilldo2215]

Suggest BMC should equal "bone maceration cause"?

[@andrewk3473]

HTA on a hardtail can’t be compared to a ful suss. At 50% of travel the HTA on the hardtail will be a lot steeper then a full suss with the same starting static HTA. Therefore 67HTA is prob similar to 70 of a full suss.

[@thedrinksomechoir7918]

[@farith911]

I bought only the BMC Twostroke AL SIX frame for US$240, amazing bike 🤩.

[@Pienimusta]

Now knowing the real name behind the BMC kinda ruined whole company for me.

[@gazibulucchi8125]

I own one, and added dropper post. Great bike

[@kihealthandwellness]

Does it have internal routing for the dropper post built in?

[@gazibulucchi8125]

@@kihealthandwellness ya man it does.

[@marcelosantoyr]

Do you think if fork is changed for a z2 bomber would work as a trail bike?

[@joshuaallswang8016]

@@marcelosantoyrbro it would. Have an bomber 130, but wanted to keep the bike more XC/DC so I put a 120 Reba instead. Weight was big factor.

[@arnopr]

Hang on, when you said "The Vitus" were you referring to the Sentier or the Rapide? I'd really like to know.

[@hussainfazleali4122]

I don’t get why people don’t slam the seat at the top, a dropper post is more efficient but unless your in a race you can stop for 10 secs and lower the post.

[@joshuaallswang8016]

lol try doing that 50 times during a ride with different terrain! Then come talk to me!😂

[@cmmoney]

but should you add a dropper post...

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

I like it but.... I would want 120 mm and dropper js

[@cup_and_cone]

No XCO rider uses 120

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

Never said I was js

[@chrismcq3786]

you want a niner air9

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

@@chrismcq3786 not for 6500 bucks I don't but thanks for the suggestion

[@chrismcq3786]

@@harveyjoneswoodsman5956 the 2 star AL build is 1800 USD

[@zalealb]

B.lood M.eat C.arbon which actually sounds like a bad ass race team name or Beavers Making Chocolate

[@Aprendeinglescantando2425]

Hello folks, nice video is a rear boost axle size 148 mm ? i could't find this info on the web until now ? thks you

[@biketothetop]

BMC: Big Man on Campus

[@anthonywalters7434]

That thing is slacker than my Specialized Rockhopper, and I overforked mine to 120mm of travel

[@Jay_radd]

Haha saame

[@rolux4853]

67 was pretty normal on enduro bikes 5 years ago

[@brickbros211]

I did the same with my Giant talon

[@simran9220]

I installed a marzocchi bomber 🔥

[@bongocat5223]

Bikes, Mostly Carbon

[@DareDevil-M]

Is it possible to install a dropper post?

[@HD46409]

What does BMC stand for? It's that sinking feeling you dread at the start of the race i.e., "Bowel Movement Coming".

[@LasangPilipino]

hello! what's your height and the bike's size?

[@obi-wankenobi9871]

On the topic of "bad" acronyms: Metabo stands for Metallbohrdreher which is an old german word for a power drill.

[@GavinKeller]

BMC: Big mountain cycles

[@Calispeedboi]

Would be an accurate name since they’re from Switzerland

[@jordan_ochoa]

Bowel Movement Champions

[@davidchavez81]

If you want the bars higher, get an angled stem.

[@benhockey380]

Did that bike just change from orange to red???

[@jorgeenriquegomez4998]

Recon RL is Gold or Silver?

[@mtb717]

What about ukrainian bike Cyclone Slx Pro with Yari fork and price €1000?

[@jonienglish3231]

I Thought These Bikes Come with ELASTOMER Suspension ???

[@pepeanza6187]

Why is so difficult to lower the saddle manually whit a quick lever like we did all the times before the drooper post was so popular? I mean is no ideal but why testing the bike in the descents whit the seat post in the high position? So stupid lower manualy and be confident.

[@marcobueno31]

Broccoli,Mac & Cheese

[@benjacobson7490]

r/iamveryrandom

[@creepingjesus5106]

Every time I see one, I think 'British Motor Corporation' and I hope they don't share their predecessor's attitude to build quality. They seem not to. There's a 'continuation' BMC in Turkey that builds commercial vehicles... Anything to do with the bikes?

[@travischapman6763]

As an xc guy, I don’t get still not using a dropper. Downhill speed and confidence definitely makes up for weight.

[@judechandler5102]

Baking Mike's chamois

[@kylerobinson6102]

Where can I buy one of these in Canada? Help me people!

[@sonoman00ify]

BMC= Best Mountainbike Company! DUHH!!

[@thetoyota86perspective54]

Its got a similar HT angle to my Trek Roscoe 7. Although the Roscoe isn't an XC bike, at 67 degrees they are both comparable. And the Roscoe comes with a dropper and can run either 27.5x2.8 or 29x2.4 so I would say the Roscoe is a better all rounder. The BMC looks great but like all BMC's, it's over priced for what you get

[@travisgbarr]

That’s exactly the point of the roscoe, to be an all around trail hardtail. This is not made for that. Just because the head tube angle is the same does not mean that the bikes are built for the same purpose

[@joshuaallswang8016]

lol this isn’t a trail bike.. not to mention the Roscoe is 5-7 pounds heavier!

[@tabs9655]

Really like this bike thanks guys, I dont think you respond to messages. But can you give me some more bike ideas for budget XC bikes to look at for racing please

[@francosandhoff4232]

hello i would like to see a review of the new canyon torque and toeque on

[@lucassingh4469]

You'll be waiting a few months, Canyon is straight out bikes

[@conman1395]

😂 Okay

[@dylan-5287]

Let me get right on that sir, anything else?

[@johngallagher6367]

BMC=Badass Mountainbike Company

[@Krasputin6719]

67 degrees is not bad. It's the same angle as my giant trance 3 2016 and it's a trail bike lmao

[@fishrideandski4910]

BMC= Bike Man Cross-country

[@bagleborn]

i haved a towstork al and i snapt in like 4 mounth

[@virginiascurti5036]

Specialized Epic is the most progressive Geometry? The Chisel has better geometry.

[@cadaverchris]

British Motorless Cycles

[@Nozes..]

Except they are Swiss 😊

[@cadaverchris]

@@Nozes.. meh 🤷‍♂️i tried

[@antoinedoinell]

Rockshox, Sram NX...deore brakes? Guess BMC doesn't think much of Sram's brakes.

[@robdickinson829]

Basic Mechanical Contraption

[@mustclime5311]

BMC=Back Must Curve

[@wcasako]

Great name for a bike company, right up there with CCM.

[@timodumontier61]

Make video for endu rigide?

[@_ben_sweet]

Bikes make champions

[@nate49509]

Doesn't come with valve caps? lol

[@damv5975]

Too bad the Commencal Meta HT wasn't in the comparaison.

[@krischdjan2608]

1600$ for a alloy hardtail with the cheapest parts and without a dropper post. The prices in the mtb segment are so overtaxed.

[@jazzechos1372]

No it is not the geometry holds the bike back it is usually the riders ability on that style of bike that holds it back.

[@Frisqn]

Weight ?

[@joshuaallswang8016]

Don’t know but mine is currently 24.7 pounds 11.2 kg with upgrades

[@kemalaltnkan6290]

thanks pinkbike:)

[@hugargar1]

BMC=Best Mountain Cycle

[@ahmedrais1994]

bmc the best🎉

[@LukeRaymondMTB]

Did anyone else hear the touchgrind scooter soundtrack at the beginning?

[@laurentp89]

SX is a deal breaker on anything for me... I already disliked NX, SX is just unacceptable

[@Subboxstoker]

B.M.C. Beast Mode Climber

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Tried to track down a carbon version of this bike, was told 2022! Ended up with a Canyon Exceed, which I am enjoying. Oh, and BMC = Buying Market Closed!

[@asianskywalker]

Bike manufacturers are having a laugh with prices.

[@francosandhoff4232]

nice video

[@cartermcmasters2874]

BMC Beast Mode Cycles

[@remar2434]

Best move cycles

[@henrikfehr5150]

Biking makes crazy

[@benefiet]

I don't feel like you guys are the wright ones to test this bike. Also a lot of people live in area's without mountains where these xc HT are the ideal answer for the trails.

[@mikeychill1]

BMC= Bob's Mountain Bike Company