2007 Pocono 500 - Jeff Gordon Forces Kyle Petty Into Retirement

[@peterl2017]

I met Kyle at an airport one time - he seemed like a nice guy. Has to be tough growing up the son of one of the best and trying to live up to the King's success. Just the same, it's an accomplishment just to race at the top level of Nascar. He actually was quite successful earlier on his carear. Losing his son was so sad for that family. I will say one thing - Kyle made money racing and he's making money as a broadcaster - good for him!

[@martinchiki9208]

If you were true fans you would know that the death of his son was what really ended itfor him.

[@M1lesJames]

I'm surprised he has the strength to even announce races at New Hampshire. Adam Petty was supposed to carry on the Petty tradition, and Kyle has never been the same since his death.

[@tylercrouch31]

Martin Chiki I thought it was pretty courageous of Kyle to drive the 45 after that happened, despite him racing past his prime the way he did.

[@TheJer1963]

+Martin Chiki Adam died in 2000, Kyle's last race was the fall of 2008. So ended it for him, no.

[@TheJer1963]

+Jack Torrance His wife Patty is very sick now.

[@M1lesJames]

***** That's not good. It's a shame there isn't a Petty out there racing in Sprint Cup.

[@tomtomthepipersson6675]

Damn I forgot how good that Dupont car looked

[@velvetarcade6017]

Tom Tom The Pipers Son a damn good looking car.

[@insanehd1456]

im a jeff Gordon fan and this was my first race I went to, so this is very special to me, thanks for posting this

[@RH421939]

im a gordon fan my 1st race was june race at dover in 01 and he won

[@danielcurtis5179]

My first ever race was Texas in 2009 when be won!

[@robertrobinson9920]

Got to see him win the fall race at Talladega in 2007 .

[@specialk1416]

InsaneHD Me too brother I got into the sport after watching the finish at Daytona that year, and Jeff Gordon was my favorite driver and seeing him win at my first race was awesome

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

Jimmy is amazing in his own right, but let me tell you, Jeff Gordon strung together some of the most dominant years I've ever seen in NASCAR, before this stupid chase format came into existence

[@dfuller968]

The reason why Gordon was so dominant was because he came in when alot of the veterans were getting ready to retire.

[@o0oStillWeRiseo0o]

But he outshined the young up and coming top talent and best drivers of that era...so...

[@michaelmassey8353]

AyrtonHamilton2785 Ray Evernham😐

[@randyhutchinson9910]

Still I Rise4485 between the " chase " format, and this, " stage ", racing, NASCAR killed itself

[@jamesdeaver140]

24 dominated and NASCAR kept changing rules

[@xlrobertolx]

11:15 for people who don't get why the video has this title. Great video BMM248, thanks for uploading.

[@datdudecollins]

Jesus. Thank you.

[@Johnny5]

Honestly Kyle Petty forced Kyle Petty into retirement.

[@forwarddrive4066]

kragseven More like he should of taken up golf and never touched a race car. He was worse than Danica. Well ,,,,almost..😁

[@caddydaddy84]

Ummm are you idiots even NASCAR fans? Petty was in the booth when this happened. He didn't even work in NASCAR. He works for a network and still does.

[@kennethsmith8968]

kyle petty won 5 races,how many did Danica win?@@forwarddrive4066

[@cole-trickle50]

kragseven Kyle wanted to retire but continued to drive longer because his son Adam was killed . Adam was supposed to take over For Kyle

[@pulln100]

@@forwarddrive4066 kyle was actually a decent race car driver but people want to act like he wasnt bc he didn't surpass his fathers success and that's bc as time goes on the completion gets tougher each year if richard petty career would have have began and the technology and competition was the same as it was when kyle started he probably wouldn't have done any better

[@ritchie9601]

I went to this race, I was 9, it was my first. OMG, I loved it!!!! Couldn't've been better

[@stevenmartines8261]

I was there! That was the 2nd best time I saw Jeff win after the 05 Daytona 500. Out of 8 Nascar races I went to he won 3 times, not bad odds!

[@specialk1416]

I was 7 years old at the time and just got into NASCAR. I was living in Wilke-Barre at the time right up the road from long pond where the track is. Jeff Gordon was my favorite driver and seeing my favorite driver win in my first race was insane

[@johnboy4025]

This should have been the year Jeff won Title 6... Stupid Chase!

[@WilhelmX666]

All hail the real 6 time champ! scratch that. ALL HAIL THE REAL 7 TIME CHAMP!!

[@ameliastevens2453]

Guillermo Álvarez soon to be 7

[@WilhelmX666]

Brady Amelia HELL YEAH!

[@ameliastevens2453]

Guillermo Álvarez good win today

[@sudsysutherland359]

John Boy ; He only ended up with 4

[@joekaput747]

On a technicality, this was the only photo finish Jeff won

[@nascarfanatic2425]

2004, too. He would've won by 47 points over JJ, and Kurt Busch would've been 4th in points. Just goes to show, the chase can make some drivers look better than they really are.

[@Scout523]

One of the last times ever Casey Mears had a top five finish,

[@JacobStevens13]

One of the literally only times***

[@tannermccage554]

9:55 the size difference between Jeff and Steve 😂😂😂

[@thomasg2488]

I remember they said sometimes it's just your year and everything goes your way, in reference to Gordon, and then he loses in the Chase despite being the best driver all year. Just another reason I'll never say that Jimmie is better than Jeff

[@BrendanTheGent]

Yep jimmy isnt a 7time champ... he maybe on paper but he would have lost it many times if nascar had a real points system

[@michael88h]

Jimmie won by a popularity contest called the chase and playoff format. Jimmie himself was the forefront about getting the playoffs established he knew how to win the least and achieve the most. Johnson is nowhere near as good as Gordon He would've never one not one championship the old way. Gordon won all 4 of his the old fashioned way.

[@thisguy652]

michael88h incorrect. If there was no Chase Jimmie would’ve won the title in 2006, 2009, and 2013

[@OFWGKTADGD]

These arguments are useless because people would have ran the races differently if total points on the year mattered.

[@ghostfarmer358]

I'm not a Gordon fan but he should be a 7 time champion

[@michael88h]

The bs playoff format and the chase format ruined that for him

[@allendoss1941]

What I always said Like him or not Can't deny his driving skill Even under the wing of the intimidater He should have had 7 I not a fan of Jimmy Johnson Not one bit Unfortunately I respect his driving to I just don't want see him win a Championship again Lol kinda fed up with Kyle Bush to Old schoolers like Yarborough, petty, Earnhardt Would have straightened his ass out

[@coltsforsuperbowllvii6827]

You act like the results from each race would be the same if there was no chase

[@ghostfarmer358]

@@coltsforsuperbowllvii6827 I think they would be close to same

[@coltsforsuperbowllvii6827]

@@ghostfarmer358 nah, Johnson saved his best stuff for the chase, Gordon went out every weekend with the his best stuff.

[@DumpedClutch]

Gordon really should of won in 2007

[@markmiller489]

Still makes me sick that title slipped away

[@Ktaurus26]

@@markmiller489 stupid letarte gave Chad all the notes from the 24

[@GoodOlRoll]

@@Ktaurus26 really? What an idiot.

[@kevinblanco2451]

Newman vs Gordon underrated rivalry

[@chochoobaca55]

Steve has lost so much weight since then. He looks good today!

[@randomCADstuff]

See 11:15 for Kyle Petty reference (it's in good humor). Also: Why all the hating on Kyle Petty? Look up his stats on Wikipedia. He was a race winner and (almost) never had the best car. He was a legitimate title contender for a short time. He performed relatively better on the more technical tracks, indicating a decent level of natural ability. He was slow on the cookie-cutter tracks for sure... but if that's your thing then whatever. Remember that NASCAR talent is drawn from a huge population and is (or was) quite competitive back in it's heyday. A lot of these drivers could have been competitive in F1 had they been groomed the same as the typical 'go-cart brat' we see today. If you run top 20 in a Nascar event circa 1995 - 2005 you were pretty damn good behind the wheel. Richard made sure his son would have to earn his way into NASCAR. Many people don't know anything about Kyle's career. He drove for the Wood Brother's in the 80's when they were struggling and performed competitively (pretty much matched Dale Jarrett's performance with the same team). He helped turn Sabco racing into a competitive team. They fell off later on. Kyle was competing for (occasional) race wins up until 1997, and competing for top tens up until 2006. He was juggling lots of stuff outside of racing including running the team itself, charity stuff, and some tragic life events as well. He kept the team going through some tough sh*t. Personally, I enjoyed watching Kyle white-knuckle his way to an 8th-place finish at Bristol in 2005 rather than seeing some go-kart brat with a team whose budget was 10x Kyle's compete for race wins. I'd rather see drivers with personalities race even if they aren't competing for wins week in and week out. I like seeing an old-timer mix it up with the young guns; what other sport could you see different eras of drivers compete with one another?

[@justinturley7071]

Another thing, had the caution not came out in the 1992 All Star Race he would’ve won it. He had the fastest car from stage 2 and on.

[@caddydaddy84]

Dude too funny. This is an example of people posting comments without paying attention. Kudos!

[@FaydsterTV]

“Razor close” Gordon is clearly ahead by half a car length.

[@AEMoreira81]

The ironic part is that had the race gotten back to green, the brake issue would have forced him behind the wall.

[@datdudecollins]

Can someone just explain how Kyle fits in to this...minus being a commentator, no less? Why did I miss? Damn. Aggravating.

[@signoresantinoburnett1169]

Kyle Petty: Jeff didn't win, Steve Letarte did. Jeff Gordon: I didn't win this Steve Letarte did.

[@CrazyTuco1]

It would only be possible on road courses. Ovals would be too dangerous. Cars are too heavy with a higher center of gravity...Cars would lose grip at higher speeds and whipsaw into the walls...NNS has a program to use wets at road courses. Only used them once in a race I believe. They had to add windshield wipers to the cars...

[@dreamyzack]

Jimme didn't win 5 because of the chase.He won 5 because he is Jimmie Johnson.if they had a no chase than Chad and Jimmie would've PLANNED on that instead of PLANNING for a Chase.

[@markhondacivic4368]

You have a good point there. The crew chief has a lot to do with how a driver performs. Gordon had Everham, Stewart had zippadeli. However Knaus doesn't drive those cars. And both you and i know, nascar cars are as close to equal as ever especially with the gen 6 just coming out. The thing that impresses me is how Jimmie has won championships in so many different cars. Gen 4. 07 COT. COT. COT with spoiler. And now with the gen 6 he is dominating.

[@sabbathbassdude8491]

1:30 That's the reason for the video

[@IndyB25]

I just noticed Jeff Gordon has won twice in Pocono in the rain.

[@LetMrAL1]

That C6 Z06 Corvette looks so good with Jeff Gordon's car.

[@BMM248]

Why does this have 40,000 views and 110 comments? And out of all my videos, this one specifically is far and away more popular than just about anything else I posted. lol

[@acexbox]

cuz u gay

[@BMM248]

acexbox Can't argue with that reasoning.

[@forgetitohio]

CarTwenty4 I don't see it either. What happened was Kyle's son Adam was killed in a Busch race. He finished up the season for his dead son. I don't think he raced again after that

[@BANGITSME87]

forgetitohio He raced plenty after that.

[@kingofrunescapepking]

CarTwenty4 Kyle said in the video that if Jeff won that Kyle would retire because of the ridiculous luck Jeff had been having in recent weeks. Lo and behold, the race was called, and Kyle ran his last race about a year later

[@jasoncollins6149]

Jeff chic... watch the video and pay attention, 4 wins by races cut short, WOW impressive EH, read Gordon's stats, he's a glorified champ hands down, came into Spirit cup and won his fan base on talent and skill, changed the face off NASCAR and set many and broke many records, love him or hate the guy can get up under the wheel and drive the wheels off anything...champion to the core and his legacy will be hard to beat

[@kornnut43]

You would be wrong, sir. I have been a Jeff Gordon fan since 1995, and damn proud of it. I chalk Texas 2010 up to two drivers going for the win. Obviously, if it wasn't for Gordon, Jimmie would still be a nobody..... but then again, hey, while we're talking about the Chase and not knowing for sure exactly what would happen under different circumstances, what do I know? ;)

[@LWSJ85]

Gordon won this on my 22nd birthday, June 7th, 2007

[@NathanRyanAllen]

I somewhat agree with you, with a few exceptions. 2006 wouldve been impossible without the chase. They simply found gold late in the season. 2007 also wouldve been hard because Gordon had a historically amazing season. Like 30 top 10s or something. 2008-2010 couldve been possible.

[@kornnut43]

Right, but under the old system, all the drivers chasing Jeff, Carl and Harvick would have raced differently... it's fun to debate "what ifs", but at the end of the day, you can't really do that with the Chase\Non-Chase argument.

[@brandonenglund7516]

Brake issues, when was it Jeff had that awful brake failure and clobbered the wall driver side here at Pocono? I remember Clint Bowyer saying “I thought he was dead” following Jeff when it happened.

[@christiancarver314]

That’s crazy Steve Letarte is working with Marty Snider now.

[@gharrison1221]

They weren't as safe, BUT They're sexy as hell, but I loved these cars.

[@undeadshark]

With Gen 6 the train is back and turned exciting tantric racing where pairs of cars were fighting each into watch the same two lines of cars following each other around and around. This is compounded by the point system that is in place. So that most newer drivers are content with a top ten finish so they might have a shot at the chase instead of pulling out of line and going foe the win.

[@tarheelenigma]

I came into this video expecting Jeff Gordon and Kyle Petty to be talking trash.

[@bigtst36]

he owns 50% of the 48

[@awesomeman]

nope

[@bigtst36]

google it u idiot

[@techman2016]

bigtst36 dumbass

[@LilRondo101]

john kyle why are you calling him a dumb ass? He's right.

[@MrHello324]

awesomeman Gordon, along with Rick Hendrick, co-owns the No. 48 Chevrolet driven by Jimmie Johnson, who won six Cup championships from 2006 to 2010, and 2013. Gordon also has an equity stake in his own No. 24 team.[7] Gordon also owned a Busch Series team between 1999 and 2000, Gordon/Evernham Motorsports (co-owned with Ray Evernham; later solely owned as JG Motorsports), winning twice.

[@rebelracing88]

Dale Inman was an innovator yes. Petty's oversized engines were built by brother Maurice. Chad Knaus is a huge cheater and innovator dude. Illegal shock gaskets in 2005 at Dover, a device on the rear window to lower the window at Daytona in 2006, illegal fender modifications at Sonoma in 2007, etc. Those three busts right there were for blatant violations of the rules. Now his chassis setups that helped skew the rear end were pure innovation. He's brilliant, but he cheats too.

[@Huitzilopotchtli]

Happy 43rd Birthday Jeff, #RainbowWarrior24 !

[@saintsrulz]

I'm not a Jimmie fan. But all you guys here debating on how good he really is, just get it, he's REALLY good. We won't enjoy it until 20 years from now when we have someone else to hate. People hated Earnhardt Sr. People hated Waltrip. We hate everyone who wins. Johnson is one of the best ever. I hate seeing him win every week, but I appreciate watching one of the best sports teams ever compete.

[@JG24ROX54]

Can we petition for the old system or something? That is the only way to correctly find the best driver anyway.

[@ArchieRLib]

Every time I watch this I get excited to see the DLP 96 - my favorite paint scheme of all time - in third. Then, of course, I realize that Tony is once again in 36th, having just been put a lap down. It's like mediocre racing Groundhog Day.

[@kevinparsons1902]

Had Dale Jr. not had that concussion and finished those other two races where he was running he would have won the championship last year under the old system.

[@vicp1990]

Even being a gordon fan nobody complained about this rain win unlike bubbas

[@roniet14]

Jeff Gordon, 9X champ. 4 as a DRIVER, 5 as the OWNER of the 48! Check who owns the 48 on NASCAR.com, it's JEFF!!!!

[@cykablyatman6242]

why was Chad McCumbee in the 17 and where was matt?

[@AxellRosas36]

probably parked for intentionally wrecking some other driver 😂

[@stephenholloway6893]

Wrong number on TNT's part. Chad was in the 45 car filling in for Kyle Petty who was in the booth. In fact this was his Cup Series debut.

[@BWC80]

This was the last year I remember enjoying Nascar. They replaced these cars completely with the COT the next year and the racing just hasn't been the same. IMO they got to safety happy and forgot about the actual racing.

[@DAMNbyrnz35]

Gordon wins this championship under the old system. Something to think about.

[@nascarfanatic2425]

Shoot, if he and Alan Kulwicki were both still racing, they'd be competing with guys like Jeff, Dale Sr. and others for the championship! Heck, Dale probably wouldn't have won the '93 championship if Kulwicki's plane never crashed.

[@Yeahdude69Awesome]

I remember this season, one of like 3 times Newman just ran outta luck against Gordon. Great drivers, Hopefully Newman will get on another prime and race him again, 2 go hard all speed guys. too cool to watch them.

[@CadenThure]

Oh thank God Jeff put that man in retirement. I couldn't stand seeing Kyle getting his butt whooped every week. But now i wish they forced him out of the booth and just scrap TNT NASCAR coverage

[@SpeedRacer_IRL]

Worst part is, Kyle Petty was getting his ass kicked while using my lucky number, lol

[@joshdupkoski437]

AyrtonHamilton2785 I don't think so. Petty has 8 wins and has finished in the Top 5 in points twice. I don't see Danica ever getting close to that.

[@SpeedRacer_IRL]

Danica is only in her 2nd year of NASCAR... Kyle Petty had many more years to do better. People are really only putting Danica under a microscope because she's a woman. Also, Danica has won a championship on another major circuit outside of NASCAR, making her better than Kyle Petty by default anyways.

[@joshdupkoski437]

"People are really only putting Danica under a microscope because she's a woman" Funny, and people did the same thing with Kyle Petty, simply because he was the son and grandson of two of the best drivers in Nascar's history. With a little luck, he'd have had the opportunity to win the title in 92, and still did have a shot at it going into the last race that year. Danica, to be fair, like you said, is under a microscope because she's a woman, but it doesn't take a genius to see that she isn't even on the same level as Kyle Petty. It might be her second year, but I can promise this year will be more of the same "Danica Patrick in the wall". Plus, from looking at her stats, please do tell which championship she won, because I'm not seeing anywhere where she has won one. Since we're being fair here, to be honest, I don't think Kyle had anything left after his son died in 2000. You can tell by his stats and his finishes after that that everything was just going downhill after that. Anyone that claims that Danica Patrick is better than Kyle Petty, clearly doesn't know anything about racing. Kyle has more wins than her, and has more finishes better than her. The biggest thing Danica has is that she has marketing appeal. That's really about it. She does have talent, I'll give her that. Unfortunately,it takes more than talent to be successful. When she does more than Kyle Petty, then we can talk about her being better than him. Until then, fact is, she isn't.

[@SpeedRacer_IRL]

"doesn't know anything about racing..." excuse me? I've been watching racing for my entire life and race cars at the local dirt track so, let's discard that little comment. You really haven't given her any time to develop anything in the league, yet you're treating her like someone who has been in NASCAR for as long as everyone else. Being fair my foot.

[@genemaverick5705]

Ironman Jeff Gordon , the GOAT !!!

[@skooby_doobie_doonkann3334]

This chase shit that Brian France implemented is a prime example of a business man who would rather fail doing it his way than change and conquer

[@lemkelegion]

Steve Letarte was so awesome.

[@hakkalocken]

That's exactly what I tell everyone! It would have been no problem to add the new safety features to the Gen 4 and we'd still have the great looking cars and the great racing. I can't believe how many people thought the Gen 6 was actually closer to a "stock" car. People really are gullible.

[@everythingleftturns7782]

This was the time where everything went EXACTLY how JG wanted it

[@awesomecj5525]

13:28 Anyone notice the error for the 25th spot?

[@tylercrouch31]

AwesomeCJ Maybe Chad was filling in for him lol

[@neck2b]

He was filling in for Kyle Petty in the 45. Kenseth finished 9th in the 17.

[@tylercrouch31]

oh ok.

[@whac1c]

can't believe Dale Jr drove the 8 and 45 on the same day! lol

[@ScottCody04]

considering many of the drivers have said the Gen 6 is very close to this car...it kinda is back

[@cocacola150dr]

Oh I absolutely agree. Jimmie will never be comparable to Petty or Earnhardt because of the system he won under. Being good in the last 10 races should not a champion make. He definitely would have won some championships, but again, different systems and all that, so it's impossible to tell just how many he would have won. I surmise it would be between 2-3 like you suggested because he was dominate for the whole season in the first 3 championships that he won. Same can't be said for the last 2.

[@fredolsen2886]

I have enjoyed this guy and his racing team. Rick Hendrick Motorsports

[@jonathonpoloski917]

Imagine, almost 20 years later, they're running rain tires at short tracks and road courses. Will we ever get to rains on these type of speedways?

[@gregbiffle227]

This title always cracks me up

[@KRT049]

They're a step in the right direction, but the Gen 4 cars were built with speed in mind. The Gen 6 cars aren't much different from the COT in truth. The Chassis is the same, just with a different skin. I admired the old car, and the technological improvements in aerodynamics. The old car was plenty safe as it was. They could've added all the safety to the gen 4 cars anyways. Besides they just looked badass!

[@TWProductions90]

Jeff Gordon would have won in 2007...I mean he had the largest gap in history early on in the season, but noo the chase time came and jimmie boy won it

[@BigMattXXL]

Whats so bad about the Gen 6 cars?

[@chrisjones3296]

Janet Guthrie was a great stock car driver especially when she piloted the turbine.

[@flyer2359x]

Well it clearly doesn't race like it at all from watching it. They have a huge spoiler creating way too much rear downforce, a huge front splitter paired with huge rear quarter panels making clean air mean way too much and a dumb shark fin which pretty much works like a driving assist. Pretty big differences compared to the old car and gen6, and not good ones at that.

[@ManicWrestler]

11 years later and you just found this out???

[@cocacola150dr]

Not exactly. These guys race a little differently under the Chase format than they did the season-long format. They are much more conservative under the Chase format for fear of losing large chunks of points. Under the season long format, they were much more aggressive because they had all season to accumulate points. It's impossible to say who would have won the championships had the Chase not been implemented. You can't just swap points systems and say so-and-so would have won the championship

[@MisterFusion113]

Sexiest racecar ever, the Dordgy Chargacarlo.

[@MarsRacingNetwork]

Kp won a more than a few races,didn't he? Like 1993?

[@TheIceman13]

how did jeff force petty into retirement?

[@knight24481]

+Ryan Daniels his car was junk and the caution came out which handed him the win due to the rain.

[@NHRAMotorsportLeague]

And he said that if Jeff Gordon wins, he'll never be race again

[@randyhutchinson9910]

RDNation1328 humor, obviously new, to you

[@nascarfanatic2425]

I wouldn't be so sure. His chase really wasn't all that hot before his concussion, and what makes you think he would've won Kansas and Charlotte? Jr.'s no noise maker at them tracks by any means. Heck, the only place he's won at since 2008 was Michigan- and that's not even a chase race!

[@flyer2359x]

Speed doesn't mean the racing is better, a lot of the time it actually makes it worse. NASCAR easily had its best racing in the very late 90s and early 2000s and speeds were much less than what they are now. The faster the car = more need for clean air.

[@JG24ROX54]

There should never be a different mindset than focusing on first place, that is hardly an excuse to cut jeff, carl, and harvick down a couple notches.

[@alanunseld4942]

man i miss these guys on tnt

[@b-regsproductions]

He’s a really good speaker

[@LineMUp321]

Steve Letarte is a Dumbledore... change my mind.

[@JG24ROX54]

Good point, be nice if the Chase never existed in the first place. Alot less arguments that way.

[@jacobbecker1905]

I think people say the "he wouldn't have won if it wasn't for the chase" for one reason that I notice. It's to keep Jimmie Johnson from being over exaggerated...Which I do agree on to some point he's good but he isn't that good. I do still believe he'd have maybe 2 or 3 even if they used a different strategy for the season if the chase wasn't there.

[@sergeantmasson3669]

Kyle Petty didn't have much of a career in NASCAR. 30 years and only 8 wins. His last win was in 1995.

[@mattsfree]

WE HAVE TO SHOW THIS TO THE TOYOTA HATERS. Chevy won a million races this season

[@Bubbles23XI]

But it was different teams, not the same team winning every race makes NASCAR very predictable and boring...

[@rebelracing88]

Junior Johnson would probably be the greatest innovator in NASCAR, with Smokey Yunick a close second. But I will say that the difference between innovation and cheating is a fuzzy line sometimes for sure.

[@wymple09]

If not for the chase BS Gordon would have 6 titles.

[@bronxville305226]

thats right, Johnson woulda been best known for his crash at Watkins Glen

[@albertogauto3834]

Mole Petak Reys Derak

[@sasuke1788]

You don't know who would have what because drivers approach the system different. Do you think the results would have been anywhere close to the same without the chase? No.

[@dustinjones8583]

I am a big fan of Jeff Gordon and i have a lot of Jeff Gordon stuff that i will not put up for sale

[@KRT049]

How?

[@maxpuppy96]

Kyle Petty forced Kyle Petty into retirement make no mistake about it.

[@gharrison1221]

Yeah, unfortunately it's not 100% safe. Yet I completely agree that the COT was crap.

[@markhondacivic4368]

Wouldn't Johnson have won last years championship if it wasn't for the chase? And anyway you can't take Johnsons 60+wins in something like 11 seasons of racing. Jimmie also led the winston cup points as a rookie. He finished 2nd 2 years in a row after his rookie year in the championship. In 05 he had a chance at the cup before crashing in the last race. Then 06-10 won 5 in a row. '11 was a bad year. LIke Tony said, this isn't the old point system. It's the chase. Jimmie won those championships.

[@Ultimate23Dragon]

6 guys I like in this race & 4 of them finish 37th or worse... Aye... -_-

[@skooby_doobie_doonkann3334]

Jeff Gordon would have won so many more titles had it not been for a stupid chase. Brian France ruined a great sport