BMP Eternal | BMP-1 with Kliver TKB-799 Turret and BMP-1-30

The BMP-1 was one of the world’s first Infantry Fighting Vehicles, and the very first to be adopted by a superpower. A design of the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, the Object 765 prototype was adopted in 1965 and thus became the BMP-1. For the next fifteen years, the vehicle would be the premier infantry fighting vehicle of the Eastern Bloc, and would thus be manufactured in massive quantities in the Soviet Union and Czechoslovakia. With upwards of 40,000 manufactured, the BMP-1 was still a common sight by the fall of the Soviet Union, but newer technologies had by that time made it obsolete in many regards. In the 1990s, there would be some attempts at modernising the vehicle to improve its combat potential in Russia, though they would not ultimately see adoption.
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[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

The crazy part about the BMP-1 is not just about the vehicle's popularity but also parts of it. BMP-1 turrets were seen regularly fixed onto technicals and other improvised vehicles in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

[@KettyFey]

BMP-1 turrets fitted to MT-LB have turned up in Russian use in Ukraine this past year too now.

[@dimasakbar7668]

You yourself had quite an illustrious and everlasting career

[@vonLuck130]

My understanding is the 2A28 Grom was not liked at all which is why the turret was removed from BMP 1's so they could be re-purposed or up-gunned. The Grom appearing on technicals has more to do with how despirate/poorly armed factions were in Syria and elsewhere.

[@hecunotmakingalogisquad5785]

@@KettyFey yes was used by the separatists

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

@@KettyFey Yeah, Ukraine has seen all variations of Eldritch horror mutants of MT-LBs and BMPs on both side. At this point I won't be surprised if I see Ukrainian BMP-1s rolling out with CROWS, Bushmasters(the turret) or TOW launchers in some months time.

[@critterjon4061]

My favorite BMP-1 modification is when some guys in Syria turned the turret into a black powder cannon that was fired using a cattle prod

[@terrified057t4]

Welp, don't let Gaijin find anything for the TKB-799, not that it would stop them...

[@donovanchau3483]

Wooooo, more Russian premiums, time to break the meta once again at BR 9-10

[@cmurderfrumpbottoniv8647]

@@donovanchau3483 the newest one is the worst cancer we have seen this patch

[@porkfreegaming5278]

Bro we about to have another event vehicle for Russia again, as a Russian main I really want minor nations in the game to get some love

[@terrified057t4]

@@porkfreegaming5278 What's the vehicle?

[@TheArklyte]

/Installs 3rd gen thermals and TOW-2A/B on FT-17/ "Beat this, you filthy casual!"

[@yaboyed5779]

Why am I laughing so muchh😂😂😂😂

[@JMiskovsky]

Add .50 triple barrel mini gun.

[@TheArklyte]

@@JMiskovsky it can probably survive that in terms of suspension load, but I'm now worried about it becoming too top heavy. Well, as long as we stick to the roads...

[@Jreth]

Its wonderful to see a new turret on the *ANCIENT* BMP!

[@christianpethukov]

Totally smart to renew rather than buy new, and that philosophy can apply to many things.

[@OliverFlinn]

@@christianpethukov you sound like the reformers. On the battlefield of the 21st century, we need new, modern, advanced designs. Polished shit is still just a shit

[@christianpethukov]

@@OliverFlinn Oh no, that's not the case at all! I made a comment elsewhere here that said it's better to renew than buy new in many case. I think it's incredibly smart when for example I see Russia committing to a common weapons turret upgrade for BMP-1s and -2s.

[@OliverFlinn]

@@christianpethukov BMP is an outdated design, in every way. It is obsolete, compared to western IFVs, its useless.

[@OliverFlinn]

@@christianpethukov even when compared to the Ukrainian made BTR-4, the BMP-2 is pretty much useless

[@LordRumCake]

Weird I was just looking for this exact thing out of curiosity, great timing

[@ApocDevTeam]

If there's a video game about a post-WW2 war, chances are there's a BMP in it somewhere.

[@ludislavke2976]

war thunder

[@lebien4554]

3:15 isn't that a BMD, the paratrooper IFV?

[@domb6015]

Yes, it's a BMD-2

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Yeah, we made a mistake. The real BMP-1-30 appears later on.

[@rancor6858]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT good on you for admitting it

[@jidk6565]

@@TanksEncyclopediaYT wish still had the feature of adding in video text to help clear up misconceptions or to correct statements

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

@@jidk6565 That was before our time, but yes, would have been amazing to still have.

[@tekis0]

Excellent video!! This channel has really improved the overall quality of its content. Thank-you.

[@janis.lauva.]

Cool an English language chanel that makes reviews with no personal opinion destroying it. Thumbs up 👍

[@captainfactoid3867]

For some reason I really like these videos on upgrade programs

[@MBP1918]

The BMP is pretty cool

[@RustyBear]

BMP 1 field modifications are my favorite

[@thomashastings5694]

Very cool

[@military-vehicles]

Scary machine!

[@caturlifelive]

Awesome tank

[@dukas54]

Very cool video, I've always have had a soft spot for BMP 1&2s. Would love if yall could look into making a video on the BMPT Terminator.

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[@PineActual]

To this day BMP is still my fav vehicle

[@85daniel]

I wan't never fight in a BMP-1. The armor is to thin and i am to tall. I think the german marder in the same time was much more revolutionary. It's also in usage today and the protection level is much higher and the weapon much better. The architecture is similar to all current western IFVs.

[@matthewjones39]

@@85danielOkay. Your favorite vehicle doesn’t have to be the best.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

BMP forever!

[@tylerclayton6081]

Damn! You’re a pretty big fan of a vehicle that has proven to be a failure in combat. Tens of thousands of BMP’s have been lost in combat

[@comentedonakeyboard]

@@tylerclayton6081 and as a non-russian i consider this vulnerability one of it's advantages

[@akid1263]

@@tylerclayton6081 it never really reached ten of thousands. why did you pull this number out of your rear?

[@joseaca1010]

3:14 i think thats a BMD-2, the hull is different, theres 5 roller wheels instead of 6 and the drive sprocket is at the back

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

It is, we mislabeled it.

This was quite Interesting. Especially because I am working on a comparison of BMP-1 and Marder in the context of the "Donations" from Germany to Greece and Greces donation to Ukraine.

[@chrissmith1094]

Looking forward to your video!

@@chrissmith1094 thanks 🙂 it will be out tomorrow at 19 hrs german time. I am uploading now. But it will be in German and it will mainly look at the BMP-1 A1 Ost and the Marder A3

[@chrissmith1094]

@ Keine Entschuldigung notwendig. KZbin hat auch Untertitel. Glaube alle ehemaligen Panzergrenadiere freuen sich auf ein Video mit dem Marder ;)

@@chrissmith1094 zumindest ein alter Panzergren wird auch kurz zu sehen sein. Bei einer Aufnahme von einer ILÜ aus den frühen 2000ern 😀

[@morteforte7033]

Funny thing is, you could do a similar thing with it's cold war opponent, the m113 and be close to the same abilities( granted, similar things to this have already been done by several countries)

[@christianpethukov]

But isn't the BMP a lot sleeker-looking??

[@morteforte7033]

@@christianpethukov less than you'd think, most of that was its more amphibious nature. Armor wise they are about on par with each other.

[@christianpethukov]

@@morteforte7033 I was always under the impression the BMP had a slight edge in armor protection but I guess I was wrong. My observation was more about aesthetics. As a kid Soviet weapons were "scarier"-looking to me.

[@morteforte7033]

@@christianpethukov totally agree on that, the BMP does give off far more menace than the m113s "breadbox on tracks" appearance.

[@thegreyhound1073]

I was shocked when I saw the 3rd ID using m113's refueling next to our Marine Corps AAV7's. When we were invading Iraq in OIF. We were used to having antiques, but I thought active duty army units had completely replaced the 60's m113s.

[@Hairysteed]

I laughed out loud when the narrator pronounced the initialism "SPAAG" Good thing he say AAA (anti-aircraft artillery) 🤣

[@amacca2085]

James acaster

[@LB-oz9hv]

I always wondered why nobody ever up armoured the BMP 1 or 2 even at the loss of its amphibious capability.

[@kempo79]

They did. Check Czech Shakal for example. BMP 1&2 has pretty shitty suspension, that's why armoring up would need to reinforce it. That would need more re-design of the vehicle, and so on, and so on, to the point it's not exactly worthwhile.

[@waterz2415]

Syrians did upgraded some with spaced armour.

[@dmitryy841]

Bmp 2 (D) in Afghanistan

[@olpisak]

because amphibious capability was the point of using this vehicle in wider perspective of the military operation.

[@maxo.9928]

Poor suspension design means any additional armor must be extremely weight-efficient in order to be mounted without requiring a rework to the whole suspension system. In more modern times russia for example has developed 4S24 ERA which can be mounted to the amphibious BMP-3, and with which the BMP-3 can still float. Nowadays it's really just a matter of using modern materials and composites to overcome some of these issues, and the costs that come with doing that.

[@D0P1C3]

plz Cadillac Gace Commando vid in future :D

[@butterballmach2]

These machines....christ literally any and all conflicts (too a degree) have a bmp some how command machine all the way too makeshift artillery these things are just wild

[@jakemocci3953]

I’ve seen them take some nasty hits on these ukie videos and they keep on trucking

[@izoiva]

Russia is now modernize it to Basurmanin (literally a foreigner, or more specifically Turk in Old Russian) and use in large quantities (not 35 as you mentioned, it saw wide use in Ukraine now)

[@tylerclayton6081]

Probably all got destroyed already. Russia has lost thousands of BMP’s.

[@DanielNotWise]

@@tylerclayton6081 source: Twitter?

[@ProfibobWot]

Like 20? Xd

[@DanielNotWise]

@@Armmag and all is arma graphics. Nah

[@darthvader4158]

​@@tylerclayton6081 yet thousands remain, the same goes with tanks, artillery. The Boomerang and Armata have entered service now too, increasing production of both aswell. Ukraine will lose the war due to attrition.

[@steveneaston2658]

wow impressive research and details

[@Punisher9419]

There are few things certain in life, taxes death and the enternal BMP-1. Considering the upgraded turret had a thermal that would have been well appreciated in the current war. Russia is learning now they have made a big mistake not investing in their military enough.

[@freedomisntfreeffs]

Russia has invested. However most of the money went into the pockets of officers instead of proper gear and equipment, and we've now seen just how extensive that corruption has been.

[@maxentaxen6875]

I thought it said Texas.

[@maxiona714]

@@maxentaxen6875 that too.

[@maxiona714]

That comment is so good, I put it in the quotes section in our discord server.

[@fremiloant1186]

I mean with the new mobilization russia is a doing i think we'll see more of them

[@Klovaneer]

2A72 is not directly related to 2A42 save for ammunition commonality as they use different actions - long recoil and gas operation respectively. It is also not any lighter than 2A42 - 84 kilos is the breech weight while the barrel clocks out at 36kg.

[@bssl497]

2:58 This sight is from the Russian version, but during the war of the 1980s, Iraq asked Russia to develop the sight so that the shooter would be able to fire shots designed to treat infantry. So Russia made a sight that would enable the shooter to fire shots to a range of 1600m using the sight, while using compound shooting, the shot would reach a range of 4800. This development came in response to the urgent need. at that time.

[@fratercontenduntocculta8161]

Ukraine is also creating a new BMP with a 30mm main cannon. Has a 7.62mm coax, 40mm AGL, 2x ATGMs and smoke grenade launchers.

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

BTW it is technicly not correct that the BMP-1 is the first adopted IFV in the world. That is the HS30 (Hotchkiss 30 / Schützenpanzer Lang) of the Bundeswehr, wich entered Service with the armed forces of germany as part of their initial equipment in 1959. It was quickly replaced with Marder 1 in 1971. The Image at 3:16 described as BMP-1-30 with esposed missile launcher is also false It depicts an BMD-2 IFV for the sovjet para and airborne troops IFV´s generally used auto cannons (germany with HS30 and Marder for example the RHM202 20mm cannon, the US with M2 Bradley a 25mm Bushmaster). The 73mm Grom was an exceptional case with BMP-1 wich was very rare for overall IFV types. BMP-3 did not enter serive after the cold war, but was introduced into service during the cold war in 1987

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

If you want to be technical, yes, the HS30 would be the first, but that's a bit odd in its doctrine and construction. It is generally accepted that the BMP started the IFV trend. At 3:16, it is our mistake, that is a BMD-2. The BMP-1-30 pops up later in the video. For the BMP-3, we haven't made it clear, but you're confounding two different things. The date of entry into service (when the type is formally accepted) and its gradual introduction to units as it is produced. It is the second thing we are referring to.

[@sebastianriemer1777]

What about the bren carrier and that Canadian sherman type vehicle without a turret?

[@zhufortheimpaler4041]

@@sebastianriemer1777 an IFV is a closed top armored fighting vehicle with a 20mm or larger cannon in a turret. more or less everything prior to HS30 does not really fit that definition

[@thesaul9484]

@@sebastianriemer1777 Bren Carrier was more of an APC than IFV

[@jebise1126]

as long as bmp1 is used only to carry troops as apc is surely still have value.

[@GarioTheRock]

13:48 man that bus is an awful place to be, even a cockroach wearing full-body flak armour would've been nothing but a hamburger meat.

[@duartesimoes508]

Those fighting in a BMP will not live eternally... 😬

[@rcpilot9963]

Finally will be replaced in Poland by BWP Borsuk and BWP Redback!!!

[@pyeitme508]

Wow

[@timucintarakc2281]

it uses modified spg-9 ammo.

[@32shumble]

I don't know about the title - seems like a lot of BMPs have been dying recently...

[@willallen7757]

now it's the russian Ronson.

[@shaider1982]

That myth about the M4 Shermans is a myth propagated by a tank repair man.

[@HanSolo__]

Catches fire each time you want it to do so.

[@neiloflongbeck5705]

@@shaider1982 there are some links between Ronson and the Sherman from WW2. Ronson used a tank with a similar front end outline as the Sherman in some of their adverts. But not their famous tagline, which dates back to one of their 1928 adverts, but not used again until after the end of WW2.

[@user-ts5rx9oo5h]

BMP crewman with balaklava on him yeah sure

[@hansvogel4335]

More ifv for war thunder

[@NoName-hs5hx]

Is it not already there?

[@rootin222]

Is there a way to modernize this to make it good enough to parry against modern APCs

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

BMP-2M is an excellent example of how much you can push this chassis. But, in the end, the chassis is the worst limitation, and further improvements can only be done by starting from scratch (which they did with the BMP-3 and Kurganets.

[@Klovaneer]

While BMP-3 was a definite upgrade in mobility and firepower it is also incredibly unfriendly to the infantry riders that have to scale the engine at the back - it was after all a modification of a light tank project. With the Sprut-SD it is basically obsolescent and is less favorable as an IFV than BMP-2M.

[@mcnuffin1208]

​@@Klovaneerisn't the sprut a light tank and not an ifv?

[@Klovaneer]

@@mcnuffin1208So is the BMP-3, hence obsolescence.

[@akboy47]

@@Klovaneer friend bmp3 is a IFV. They had a light tank program for which ey designed the 100mm gun. The program went nowhere and they decided to put it onto their new ifv with a 30mm canon, making it the most armed ifv in existence. It does has issues with crew confort however there massive firepower and increased protection negate this issue.

[@mliittsc63]

I would love to write for your channels, but I'm not familiar with discord. I'm sure there is an obvious way to send a message, but I don't see it.

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

You can also email us and we'll teach you. [e-mail]

[@fourze6113]

6:52 it gabe me cancer

[@tylerclayton6081]

Im surprised how many thousands of BMP’s Russia has lost. The list on oryx blog is huge and those are just the ones that were able to be photographed

[@Vindozavindoza]

Oryx had a lot of mistakes and many vehicles actually ukranian.

[@wolfehoffmann2697]

@@Vindozavindoza No they haven't. It's pretty obvious when Ukraine uses a fairly distinctive camo pattern and Russians don't. They even triple checked photos of a Russian MBT that was knocked out from multiple angles and made sure it was all the same tank instead of miscounting the number of losses. Stop lying and stop pretending that the group behind Oryx hasn't been doing this kind of work professionally for over a decade When they do make a mistake, they admit it and correct it as fast as they can because they take their credibility seriously. That said, Ukrainian armoured losses are still pretty high too in proportion to how many vehicles they had at the beginning.

[@mcnuffin1208]

It's not just the machine. Dont forget they are fighting a near peer nation with similarly outdated equipment with western arms sprinkled on top. Russia has however proved themselves to be incompetent with combined arms tactics

[@akboy47]

@@Vindozavindoza Oryx is very unreliable since man vehicles where destoryed and photographed multiple times. You also has some vehicles damaged, repareied, then re damaged and repaired multiple times over. It is not a reliable source unless a geolocated video is provided.

[@Lord.Kiltridge]

I understand the BMP-1 could at times achieve phenomenal acceleration. Sometimes approaching an astounding 9.8 m/s². Usually by pushing it out the back of an Ll-76, or driving off a cliff.

[@kylelemire6049]

This thing changed armored warfare and scared the shit out of the west... Talking alot of smack about the first major IFV

[@shaqswithoats]

First

[@unitedlunch1609]

Nice in American psycho

[@pharaon6718]

So cramped space for infantry inback, especially gas tanks into rear.door. Hate it every single time when i need to enter it

[@JimLahey21]

Gone are the channels that want to educate people without becoming money driven...

[@TanksEncyclopediaYT]

Apologies, what?

[@blackstoneblkstntv5551]

This explains why Russia use old equipment to get it out of it's storage so they can manufacture new equipment.

[@mcnuffin1208]

No? They just don't have the money so they use what they have. Nothing is stopping them from manufacturing more except money

[@blackstoneblkstntv5551]

@@mcnuffin1208 nope. They use old equipment coz there's too many in their storage a little upgrade and it's good to go. Ones it's destroyed there's too many to replace it

[@mcnuffin1208]

@@blackstoneblkstntv5551 yep.

[@muhammadbilalawan6182]

im curious why russia doesnt modernise its equipment when it has the technology. sure its expensive but it would be more cost effective than losing hundreds over hundreds of vehicles and thousands of soldiers.

[@imranadam4034]

Not only does the cost will be expensive. The maintenance will be huge as well. Russia prefer simple design bc it's cheap and replaceable with easy maintenance. Thats why Russia can produce a huge amount of the vehicle hence they have alot of the vehicle. This huge number of vehicle is suitable for the Russia's tactics as well which is the war of attrition. Russia can't handle to maintain such vehicle. Even if they have the economy to do so it would be in a very small amount which won't be very effective in the war and would be just be a waste of resources considering it would be destroyed within few weeks if all out war.

[@imranadam4034]

All in all, Even if Russia have the technology to modernize it's military they just don't have the resources to do so they make a design to do so but it won't be build at mass scale.

[@scottkrater2131]

Because quantity is a quality on it's own. Russian and Soviet equipment has never been the best. But it's good enough if you have lots of it. A T-72 could kill an Abrams, given the right circumstances.

[@muhammadbilalawan6182]

@@scottkrater2131 the soviets had t 72s against the patton tanks, now they have the upgraded versions of those against the abrams. quantity is a quality but the technology gap has increased by magnitudes in some areas.

[@Klovaneer]

@@imranadam4034 Soviets preferred reliable and maintainable vehicles that were produced in thousands but also consistently pushed the envelope on the west. Russia restarted many military development programs in mid-00s but didn't produce shit because yachts are much more important than conscripts. Now however it again became obvious that you can't just throw manpower at an enemy and get results.

[@u.h.h4915]

💙🙏🏻💛

[@fraservickers1257]

Hi [Insert name here]!

[@littlejimmy8744]

No mention of Ukrops using it ? AFU lost hundreds of BMP 1’s allot recently with there failed Kherson attacks.

[@verververververver]

It's not nearly as significant. We know Ukraine's armored corps are not nearly as up to date. The fact that Russian battle line units are fielding BMP1s, some without modern upgrades packages, is far more telling of their situation than the Ukrainians who are pressing whatever they find into service.

[@Gorillafishing]

Sure komradski….russ troll

[@Blockhaj]

"first infantry fighting vehicle", oh boy....

[@augusto8821]

The BMP is a misconstruction from the very begining.

[@chrislloyd261]

Release 230 javelins take out 10 of these beast

[@scottkrater2131]

Do they have women in bikinis model around the display vehicles and weapons at an arms show? Like auto shows?