BMPCC4k vs ZCAM E2 Epic Battle!

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Alexandru Don

Alexandru Don

Күн бұрын

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@danielcristeapro
@danielcristeapro 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, so much work! Love the new format, I really wanted to buy a ZCam E2, since it looks like a mini RED. The cinema industry is very competitive right now!
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really think this will be the new form factor of the future for camera industry and we can see Red getting on the same trail.
@videoraulstudio
@videoraulstudio 4 жыл бұрын
NU vei regreta. Detin Z cam E 2 si e forte buna. Cel mai important e ca pe grupul lor de pe Facebook esti ajutat cu orice problema ai chiar de directorul firmei si de specialisti. Aduc update-uri in functie de ce cere lumea pe grup.
@Fuzzmistro
@Fuzzmistro 4 жыл бұрын
Zcam E2 and the Flagships are very very good cameras. It can be adapted to so many styles of shooting. Let's not ever forget the framerates. Anamorphic, frame rates, modularity, gimbal mounting, lens choices, etc. I love it.
@AndyBlackmedical
@AndyBlackmedical 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on such a well put together video. Definitely the most comprehensive comparison i have seen yet with practical sample footage. With the new Z cam E2 m4 being released the Z cam is a no-brainer as they are now at the same price point. Really good video! Subbed
@BaBa-d3t
@BaBa-d3t 21 күн бұрын
Thank you for your wonderful and helpful understanding of all your work. 😊
@gxrsky
@gxrsky 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, i'm impressed. I watch lots of tech comparisons because i have to rent a bunch of unknown equipment for the filmings and yours was really thought-out. You included all the needed aspects, including the heavy WB shift and proper low-light test! Really good work. Thank you.
@joshkiddfilms1295
@joshkiddfilms1295 4 жыл бұрын
You can't beat the pockets for the money. One thing to consider, is if you do a lot of color grading where you are keying out colors, the 12-bit raw is much easier to work with, than the 10-bit pro res. For guys that throw a lut on and call it a day it probably doesnt matter, but matters to me when I want to do detailed grades.
@35mmdigitalcinema
@35mmdigitalcinema 4 жыл бұрын
It looks like you are favouring the Z Cam, but it doesn’t come close to the pocket, when it comes to RAW. I like the Z Cam, but to be honest I always shoot 4K RAW, I don’t use as much slow motion, and if I really need slowmo for a commercial, I rather rent a Phantom camera. I think the Z cam it’s an amazing camera, specially the full frame, but I will have to get my hands on it first, and test it myself before buying it. However, I think that Blackmagic will come with a new FF and 8K camera next.
@phoenixfunny4517
@phoenixfunny4517 4 жыл бұрын
ZRAW will only get better and will be receiving Premiere Pro support soon as well as being able to record ProResRAW to an atomos soon so that'll be TWO flavors of RAW as well as ProRes and a very nice h.265 that holds up to ProRes seamlessly. BM is great and I'm sure BRAW is too but the Z Cam will give you more in codecs, fps, sensor size and aspect ratios
@Cabinlab
@Cabinlab 9 ай бұрын
ZRAW didn't get better. It got bad in the first place because they added a partial debayer in-camera to get around the RED patent .BRAW also uses an in-camera partial debayer, thus is not true raw either. Since this video came out, we learned that Z-Cam's raw format up to firmware 0.93 was the best - so good that it violated RED's bs patent and was therefore removed. There's now hacked E2 firmware in later versions with the true raw added back in.
@diego-esau
@diego-esau 3 жыл бұрын
Men, congratulations for such a great video on these two cameras.
@DZLM
@DZLM 4 жыл бұрын
The all new ZCAM E2-M4 $1499. With interchangeable mounts.
@Boyanoo
@Boyanoo 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison, missing ZRAW even tho it’s a pain in the ass workflow, also the WDR option of the Zcam seems to give a 16stop DR
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't want to go into Zraw since I never used it and prores and h265 seem to be powerful enough for my need. I tested WDR a couple of times but something feels wrong to it so I stoped using it.
@Fuzzmistro
@Fuzzmistro 4 жыл бұрын
ProRes is life. I am satisfied with ProRes. H265 is really good as well I just need to use proxy files when editing. It holds the colours really well.
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю 9 ай бұрын
hey bro tell nowadays z cam it's good for buying? I prefer e2m4 or e2 s6 instead bm4k/bm6k it's just my opinion
@CCozart
@CCozart 4 жыл бұрын
The Z Cam formfactor is very compelling. However, it is really ready to complete codec wise? Sticking with P4k, but keeping a close watch on this company's products, as they develop.
@McarthurBeard
@McarthurBeard 4 жыл бұрын
I think audio the storyline and lighting are more important. I think both cameras will get the job done but I have the blackmagic pocket 4K also have the moza air 2 it’s real easy to balance works for me no problems
@mattiashorvath9865
@mattiashorvath9865 4 жыл бұрын
for me the bmpcc 4k is the winner :) braw and davinci resolve studio for ~1300€ is hard to beat. but in my case i dont need 160fps 4k and anamophic mode :) as always there is no perfect solution for every problem/needs... :)
@Fuzzmistro
@Fuzzmistro 4 жыл бұрын
Well said. I think we (Creators) focus on which camera is better than the other a little too much. I have learnt that our budgets and shooting styles should be the determining factors on what tool to use. I wouldn't butter bread with a machete nor would I debush my back yard with a butter knife.
@whiteranger3863
@whiteranger3863 4 жыл бұрын
@Eliezer Espinosa Forgetting price with these two is the real way to choose. The $1k difference is nothing when you're also buying expensive lenses, gimbals, tripods, lights, matte boxes, monitors, SSDs, V-Mount Batteries. You're looking at $7k-$13k and if you're letting yourself be held back by $1k, you're not really a filmmaker, you're a hobbyist. Z Cam's $1k pros: Color science (look at skin tones), dynamic range, high fps, FORM FACTOR, low-light performance (it doesn't look like a DSLR's low light footage). That's already a huge difference if you care about these things (which every filmmaker should). Nvm the A7sIII's (worst skin tones, dynamic range). but fanboys will fanboy, and it's always about how well you put your videos together.
@StringBard
@StringBard 4 жыл бұрын
@@whiteranger3863 where can I see the difference in Dynamic range between the two? Is there a test somewhere?
@adrinaik93
@adrinaik93 3 жыл бұрын
I was in the same tesiture before buying the BMPCC 4K. I watched lots and lots of comparisons, and the Z CAM was super interesting, however, I prefered to lose some slow mo capabilities as well as form factor to get, at least for me, overall better image quality, as well as an ecosystem that includes the industry standard color grading software, cause that's something to keep in mind: when you buy a BMD camera, you also get Davinci Resolve Studio. So happy with my pocket 4k.
@jepgec
@jepgec 2 жыл бұрын
.i. YO
@xeximaxi
@xeximaxi 11 ай бұрын
Ez cam Has better vq
@nolanmolt
@nolanmolt 4 жыл бұрын
Just subbed! Great video!! I love your colors, what’s your color grading workflow looking like? Trying to get better at this!
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz 4 жыл бұрын
Since when is a camera deemed "professional" based on battery life and ease of use on gimbal? I guess Arris are terrible for professional use then.
@yosuhanverdecia
@yosuhanverdecia 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's the point, usually people who use arris work with a team, so you have other people working with you stabilizing the camera, another one taking care of the focus, but if you are a one man band then you need to buy something that will allow you to do what you need without need it other people working with you, I am not saying you can't do that with the BMPCC 4k but do to the design of the camera is a bit harder than the E2 but in the end everything comes down to personal preference.
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz 4 жыл бұрын
@@yosuhanverdecia respectfully disagree. With the same v mount battery pocket 4k runs longer than most "professional" cameras and a fully rigged pocket 4k is 10 times easier to use on a gimbal than a bare Alexa. His point of judging cameras "professional" based on those things is simply silly. I guess he is referring to youtubers and their usecases as "professional" and not actual professionals.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 4 жыл бұрын
@@BalaKrishna-bq5iz Ooh... you just said professional KZbinrs aren't professionals... I'm afraid your life is over brah ;-)
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz
@BalaKrishna-bq5iz 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNefastor my life is over? Brah? Are you having a mid life crisis or what? Anyway, you seem to be confused with ppl who are trying youtube as a career (which I respect) with actual professionals who the product is intended for. If you never worked with cinema cameras on a single narrative project or documentary except for making a video on the product itself without proper understanding of the product, you're not a professional with respect to that product. And this is what you get, his criteria of deeming a product as professional eliminated the whole Arri Alexa lineup which is what 9 out of 10 Hollywood movies are made of. Sry for bursting your 72 subscriber youtube professional's ego bubble.
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 4 жыл бұрын
@@BalaKrishna-bq5iz hey I didn't want to trigger you, this was just a joke and it wasn't even on you... it was on KZbinrs. But it seems I've hit a nerve. Also, why shit on my subscriber count ? In case you haven't noticed I publish maybe once every 3 month, and these days it's mostly my cat so my mom can see her... I don't even know how I got so many subs. You have zero content and yet you have 4 subs... that's just meaningless for guys like us. Take it easy.
@WrittenDigitalWorld
@WrittenDigitalWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I had to watch this again, which Mount did you use on the Z Cam in order to use Ef Lenses
@mikaelsonshow
@mikaelsonshow 3 жыл бұрын
Super video. Vreau sa fac upgrade de la Sony 6300 la z-cam e2c. Ce zici, se merită?
@williamoverton7775
@williamoverton7775 11 ай бұрын
My main concern is global shutter sensors, however. The Zcam is indeed designed as an inexpensive alternative to RED camera systems meanwhile black magic was specifically designed for smaller broadcast system assembly. So I agree the Zcam is a better choice unless you are using it in a studio environment
@JakubChlouba
@JakubChlouba 4 жыл бұрын
Great comparison man! Thinking about the Z Cam E2 S6 and this video def helped me with some questions:)
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Jakub Chlouba I’m happy to hear this! That is a good option, I think I am more attracted to F6 since it’s fullframe 🤔
@JakubChlouba
@JakubChlouba 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDon yeah, I just like the super35 look little bit more than FF :) plus 1500usd difference in price might not be worth it for me, But still waiting for the Sony announcement on the 20th to see if A7siii will be released at some point and RED Komodo Looks promising as well :)
@KinsonLoo
@KinsonLoo 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the honest review.
@VulcanworxSG
@VulcanworxSG 4 жыл бұрын
ZCAM low light looks better. But highlights recovery BRAW looks better. Lol buy both!
@jacobdesio
@jacobdesio 4 жыл бұрын
The zcam lowlight footage is sooooo noisey and unusable after 8000 iso but the BLackmagic held up until 16,000 iso
@deyomash
@deyomash 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdesio if you need to use 8k or 16k iso your lighting is off.
@jacobdesio
@jacobdesio 4 жыл бұрын
@@deyomash I have worked with hundreds of clients and I am so busy I turn down at least 50% of what I am offered. From a professional that is working I can tell you right now that sometimes, in the real world, you have to shoot at ISO 8k or 16k. I see that the only content you are making is horror shorts with your friends - I get your point but I actually work in film all the time and you are incorrect. Sometimes I need to film a outside for a live event with minimal lighting, filming a wedding sparkler exit at 2am, or what be it. I checked out your films and you are still learning the technical stuff. master your craft and get paid for it before telling other, more established, creators what will and won’t work.
@deyomash
@deyomash 4 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdesio i liked your answer, so thanks for replying! A little harsh atthe end but guess thats internet. my answer is indeed related to controlled environment. Thanks!
@jacobdesio
@jacobdesio 4 жыл бұрын
@@deyomash you are right, my answer was harsh but it’s because this situation is frustrating and happens all the time. But regardless, I apologize for how rude I was.
@caseyhyer
@caseyhyer 4 жыл бұрын
I think the clear winner here is the FX9. But did you really used the APS-C lens on the FF camera? Looks like a 20mm 1.8 to me. Very nice. Z-Cam looks nice. But raw is way too important and a standard these days. Especially when mixing these into Red shoots. I can match my Gemini footage with the Pocket pretty easy because of raw. It would be nice to see raw comparisons and workflows.
@kristiancapuliak
@kristiancapuliak 4 жыл бұрын
Mr Alexandru, do you have any solutions how to achieve that cinematic handheld look from those cameras? I've seen a lot of your handheld content from FS7, and honestly in a lot of cases it is even better than a gimbal footage. Since I am a bmpcc6k user, I have this question for some time now, and sure it takes practice, but aside from that, is it weight of the camera? will easyrig help? Or is it mainly the sensor of the camera that is high readout rate that makes handheld footage look so good? Thanks for all of your incredibly helpful content !
@danielpath616
@danielpath616 4 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks for the review. What about that noise in shadows on ZCAM?
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Daniel Path the my opinion is that zcam is cleaner than blackmagic.
@backlightmedia1628
@backlightmedia1628 Жыл бұрын
when BM release a camera in the box style it will change the game, their cameras now are excellent, I shoot on the 4k and Ursa G2 but the pocket is such an awkward thing to use on gimbals/rigs/carmounts etc etc
@nikorendy2965
@nikorendy2965 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for cool comparison.I'm debated which camera should I get since I was looking more on BMPCC 4K lately, however you just opened my eyes and yes, Z Cam is the winner!
@JCGreene
@JCGreene 4 жыл бұрын
After MONTHS of deliberation, you finally helped me to decide between these two cameras! What did it was the low light footage.. that's where you can totally see the difference between the 10-bit vs 12-bit color.. The ZCam has BAD and OBVIOUS pixelation in the shadows.. The BMPCC4k?? Nope!! I'm sold. It's the BMPCC4K for me!!
@ChadVerified
@ChadVerified 4 жыл бұрын
Well Z cAm now has 12-bit prores raw using atomos ninja v monitor aside from the internal 12-bit zraw it already has, which soon will be able to be used in Premier Pro.
@lolturbine
@lolturbine 4 жыл бұрын
be careful it was Raw vs h265. So its not directly comparable.
@DavidGriffin
@DavidGriffin 4 жыл бұрын
your gonna have to do this again... lol... in June the Zcam can film in Pro Res Raw with an Atomos Ninja V!
@NickVanHouse
@NickVanHouse 4 жыл бұрын
Dang I didn’t know U fan record ProRes raw internally on Zcam!??!?
@StringBard
@StringBard 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickVanHouse you cant, only external
@LeeMilby
@LeeMilby 3 жыл бұрын
Great quality comparison, thank you so much!
@StanislavBagin
@StanislavBagin 3 жыл бұрын
Is it zcam e2-m4?
@robertm3951
@robertm3951 3 жыл бұрын
The speed of the sensor readout impacts rolling shutter artifacts. It does not have very much to do with micro jitters. If you follow the 180 shutter rule then the readout of both cameras is more than fast enough. A bigger impact is the ergonomics, BPPCC4K is easier to hold but the ZCAM E2 is easier to rig up or put on a gimbal or glidecam.
@PAINFULLYGIFTEDVISUALS
@PAINFULLYGIFTEDVISUALS 4 жыл бұрын
I have the bmpcc4k and it works on my Moza air 2 with no problem
@McarthurBeard
@McarthurBeard 4 жыл бұрын
My 4K n MOZA air 2 works with no problem as well
@ITMUSTBESTEPHAN
@ITMUSTBESTEPHAN 4 жыл бұрын
That B-ROLL shot at 00:16 is with a Laowa lens? :O
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@dimitrimoonlight
@dimitrimoonlight 8 ай бұрын
Why do you shoot h265 for Zcam? It's not fair 😅
@SiM0NEN
@SiM0NEN 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still using Canon 600D+magiclatern to film my moped videos, cuz' can't choose between anything.. pfft
@divisionoflabor3070
@divisionoflabor3070 3 жыл бұрын
hahaha, I'm still using some panasonic g7s. Still on the prowl
@4tcfilm
@4tcfilm 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent Review! Black Magic Pocket it's not possible to put it into pocket....
@giorgiomarangolo
@giorgiomarangolo 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed. Thanks!
@mannyherrera3558
@mannyherrera3558 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, I need help with a decision about using z cam for filmming a feature film using vazen with z cam. Do you know if Netlfix accept that camera? thank you for your help.
@Fiordafilms
@Fiordafilms 4 жыл бұрын
Netflix accepts everything if they didn't produce it. If they produce it it does have a list of accepted cameras, but If they just buy it you could technically film it with an iPhone. If you speak spanish check my channel, I have a lot of videos on that topic.
@MarkdeZwart
@MarkdeZwart 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and intro song! What is the song called?
@raybailey1651
@raybailey1651 4 жыл бұрын
Great unbiased review of both products
@BlackHigginsClan
@BlackHigginsClan 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you.
@AaronsMediaCompany
@AaronsMediaCompany 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for this video... I'm sold on the BlackMagic Design's low light comparison. I know which one to buy now. I've been sitting on the fence about it.
@SavageXOfilms
@SavageXOfilms Жыл бұрын
The blackmagic is better here in the low light just look at the dynamic range 😮
4 жыл бұрын
Just my two cents: I wanted the pocket4k, then I discovered the Zcam and I completely fell in love with it, I mean on paper. Before buying it, I borrowed it from my local video gear store for a week. After four days I returned the zcam and bought the pocket4k. E2 looks perfect on paper and I actually loved the form factor, much more than the one of the pocket4k, but the image quality was very subpar. It might not look worse on KZbin after the compression, but trust me - As soon as it gets dark and you do not “expose to the right” very very hard, and I mean “crushing the highlights” hard, you will get so much fixed pattern noise in the shadows it’s unbearable. Also, you get a weird bending of skin tones where you can see purple/pink/orange fringing (I have even found a video on Vimeo, shot on E2, with exactly the same problem). Please, do yourself a favor and try the z cam before buying it. It’s awesome in a few things but if the image quality is important to you, it doesn’t even come close to the pocket4k and its BRAW.
@KinsonLoo
@KinsonLoo 4 жыл бұрын
Martin Janeš this is total BS.
@musicelect
@musicelect 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like operator error.
@sighthoundmedia2386
@sighthoundmedia2386 4 жыл бұрын
A - I've never had those issues with skin tones or colors. B - What format did you shoot in? I'm guessing, you didn't shoot zraw to compare that to braw, as those are the only ways you can give a fair comparison on image quality.
@Pattern_seeker202
@Pattern_seeker202 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison!
@getlostlser
@getlostlser 4 жыл бұрын
I think the Blackmagic is overall better, but the characteristics of the Zcam can be better for specific projects. I think the Zcam would be better for Horror for example for it's brighter but grainer image in low light.
@qtben17
@qtben17 4 жыл бұрын
Does zcAm crops if u change frame rate and resolution? I wanna know if it downsamples the image instead of windowing like bm
@africanhistory
@africanhistory 4 жыл бұрын
Manual focus is amazing-- try using it.
@imiy
@imiy 4 жыл бұрын
number of frames isn't all that matters. you didn't mention which codecs Zcam shoots slowmo at. also, P4K's native ISO is 400 and 3200, not 500
@dna8269
@dna8269 4 жыл бұрын
Great thorough video dude! Thank you!
@AlisterMalcolm
@AlisterMalcolm 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video man! The only reason I can't find any other camera to compete with BMPCC at the price is because of RAW. But this camera looks like the best option (at cheaper) to really compete. I own the 1080p BMPCC but it really shows its age now because of the 1080 video
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly cameras nowadays have come at a point where if you own a 1000$ camera or a 80.000$ you can get similar results if you’re have the knowledge of lighting and exposing correctly. I think it all comes down to set resources and creative idea to make impressive results and at this point people don’t care what camera you are shooting on because the concept and idea is more important. After all cameras are tools to help us bring our filmmaking vision to life.
@AlisterMalcolm
@AlisterMalcolm 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDon whilst as a filmmaker I absolutely agree, making my own films, that always comes first. but in 2020 clients want 4K and usually want as close to RAW as possible. whilst you can still make fantastic films on 1080p nowadays, for a client who has wants and needs, or even cinema screens/modern TVs it's definitely something to take into account, I wouldn't say people don't care if they're a person you're shooting for. but if it's yourself, it doesn't matter what camera you have
@mcbowler
@mcbowler 4 жыл бұрын
Im so confused, how about... ZCam E2 vs Sony A7S III ??
@Augustolemes1
@Augustolemes1 Жыл бұрын
Uouu, I liked very much!
@JeppeBlomgren
@JeppeBlomgren 3 жыл бұрын
A stupid question though, is the 4k open gate 160fps possible in Prores HQ?
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 3 жыл бұрын
I think with the latest updatr it’s possible
@eustreaming3874
@eustreaming3874 4 жыл бұрын
great video man, thanks!
@jordanjcreates
@jordanjcreates 4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the in-depth review 👏🏾
@melfeliciano8449
@melfeliciano8449 4 жыл бұрын
12:21 Can you get rid of the micro jitter by using a lens with Optical Image Stabilization?
@heatmakerairsoft
@heatmakerairsoft 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jayclas4023
@jayclas4023 2 жыл бұрын
both cameras are really good for the cheap price compared to Red and Arri. the updates of the E2 M4 at $1,400 with a Ninja V($2,000). It also comes down to if work in Final Cut or Resolve? Then there's the highlight recovery of the BM! you really can't go wrong with either. I have the Pocket 4k but I'm going to sell my Panasonic G9 and get a E2 M4 because i have some Sirui anamorphic lenses that I really like.
@sergioknuf
@sergioknuf Жыл бұрын
But you can use them with the pocket 4k
@mlupa666
@mlupa666 3 жыл бұрын
Strange...the same sensor size but different DOF and angle in low light test? thats why Bmpcc4k feels more cinematic.
@CONESGRAPHIX
@CONESGRAPHIX 2 жыл бұрын
Love this review.! 🔥🔥🔥
@elvisgratton6328
@elvisgratton6328 4 жыл бұрын
you cant compare prores to braw come on bruh
@landryartiste
@landryartiste 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly !
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 4 жыл бұрын
In what sense ? Looking at the video, I can't really see a difference in image quality. If anything, the Z cam looked sharper.
@jkagwen
@jkagwen 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNefastor The leeway braw hives you is out of this world. Its extremely good quality, when editing it gives you waay more versatility in recovery options such as highlights etc. Braw is basically the superior codec
@TheNefastor
@TheNefastor 4 жыл бұрын
@@jkagwen I see. Considering I intend to shoot mostly in a studio, with total control over lighting condition, do you think I would still have a use for that versatility ? I'm planning to upgrade from filming with a Sony a6000 so I have a lot to learn.
@jkagwen
@jkagwen 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheNefastor If you are shooting more of vloging or youtube videos you can steer away from the blackmagic. The stops of dynamic range and braw will not have as much impact on your videos. Plus the black magic is very inconvenient for that scenario. If you are doing ads, documentaries, short films and such kind of things then the BRAW comes in handy. What are you planning on doing?
@Xploretogether
@Xploretogether 3 жыл бұрын
Prores vs braw.... why not zlog?
@jeffrey322
@jeffrey322 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the testing you did on these cameras!
@JeppeBlomgren
@JeppeBlomgren 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. You made me sure about my choice - I will go for the Z E2
@pietbusemann3402
@pietbusemann3402 Жыл бұрын
are you still happy with it ? :)
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю
@ВячеславРакитин-ю6ю 9 ай бұрын
something wrong with e2m4? what you meaning bro?i still happe with e2m4@@pietbusemann3402
@eyeflyfilms
@eyeflyfilms 4 жыл бұрын
The irony here is that Blackmagic already made a camera with a very similar form factor as the E2 and it seems it was a total flop!!
@mjfilmmaker
@mjfilmmaker 4 жыл бұрын
Because they did it wrong. Hdmi controll was very limited and the camera was more oriented towards live broadcasting rather than cinema
@ikach5232
@ikach5232 Жыл бұрын
I like Z-cam form factor very much , but first of all both cameras are positioned as cinema cams , and it means mainly shooting RAW. And Blackmagic is ready for it without any external Ssd drives , extra Monitors and expensive atomos recorders. BM is more professional cinema camera because it brings you directly really most important workflow for any cinematograph- and it’s : RAW workflow first of all.. Slow motion is nice have but not so much important. Anyway BM is ready to shoot cinematic even without rigging and other stuff. And price around 1300$ makes it very attractive. And Z-Cam I think cost around 1800$ plus all gear and Atomos Raw recorder makes is almost used RED Camera price range .. Ok that’s how I see this scenario bro, anyway thanks for your work, was interesting. I think will be nice to compare “green screen” workflows with same codec’s. Good Luck…
@Cabinlab
@Cabinlab 9 ай бұрын
Blackmagic's BRAW isn't raw. If it was, it would be prohibited due to RED's patent. BRAW is partially debayered in-camera, and this degradation allows them to bypass the patent issue. On the other hand, there are hacked versions of the E2 firmware which included an old version of ZRAW. The old version was a true raw, but had to be removed due to RED's dumb patent ruining everything.
@adventureslav_
@adventureslav_ 4 жыл бұрын
It is possible to balance bmpcc4k on a ronin-s with sigma 18-35 and quite easy BUT without the cage. simple :)
@dietcoke9536
@dietcoke9536 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on a great video!
@matthiasBdot
@matthiasBdot 3 жыл бұрын
the glass footage is awesome
@Soldier_Sean
@Soldier_Sean 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the bmpcc 4k due to the price but good review though
@zubair.asyraf
@zubair.asyraf 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 4 this content
@jay9699
@jay9699 4 жыл бұрын
Such a useful comparison. Thanks so much for making this.
@dagkaszlikowski8358
@dagkaszlikowski8358 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but they don't have 4 by 3 sensor size, only Z-cam has. Blackmagic has 16 by 9 sensor size.
@jameskeboy480
@jameskeboy480 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just about to pull the trigger on a bmpcc4k right now, tell me I'm doing the right thing ........
@FlavourTV
@FlavourTV 3 жыл бұрын
you battle proRes vs ProRes, why you batlle raw vs prores?
@TaruunRJhaPHOTOGRAPHY
@TaruunRJhaPHOTOGRAPHY 4 жыл бұрын
Loved it
@ZaueDP
@ZaueDP 4 жыл бұрын
you need to compare prores vs prores, not prores vs braw! incorrect comparison!
@Loqu4
@Loqu4 4 жыл бұрын
Well Zcam fanboys like to say that it RAW is not neccessary and all the BIG BUDGET VIDEOS are shot on Prores and how it's industry standard. So fuck yeah we should compare Braw with Prores.
@timremley6013
@timremley6013 4 жыл бұрын
@@Loqu4 Or actually use the Zcam's zraw for a true apples to apples comparison.
@Loqu4
@Loqu4 4 жыл бұрын
@@timremley6013 @JSFILMZ already did that back in 2019
@CharlieHunt
@CharlieHunt 4 жыл бұрын
Real dope channel brother 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏼 has to subscribe
@massakidi
@massakidi 4 жыл бұрын
really? That’s yours test? filming stuff on the too of the table?
@ryandutter9849
@ryandutter9849 2 жыл бұрын
Bad comparison of 10 bit vs 12 bit codecs. Should have at least recording in pro res raw to compare to braw. Of course 10 bit doesn't have as much latitude
@dakhos
@dakhos 4 жыл бұрын
zcam e2 is a strong competitor at ~2k bucks, but for 1300, I guess it's hard to compete with pocket4k, main competitor of zcam e2 is pocket6k with an aps-c sensor
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right, but even with the pocket 6k you don't get that much fps in 4k...
@dakhos
@dakhos 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlexDon that's true, main reason why people consider Zcam for purchase, if only pocket6k was capable of similar results🙌
@StillPictureProduction
@StillPictureProduction 4 жыл бұрын
BMD has an ecosystem. Z will never have that. You can go from acquisition to delivery with BMD. Never the Z. And with the new Gen 5 BMD color science, Z has no chance. I’m not a BMD fanboy. I’ve owned and still own, Sony, canon, Pana, so it’s not coming from a biased opinion. BMD has more to offer than even Red does for an efficient workflow from start to finish.
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
Cine Phile reading what you wrote it’s clearly you haven’t tried a zcam. I just bought a zcam e2 f6 and the colors and dynamic range of this camera beats up bm from far away
@StillPictureProduction
@StillPictureProduction 4 жыл бұрын
I only trust Cine-D DR test, because they do it scientifically and the clocked Z at 11.9 at SNR-1 and BMD at at 12.9 at SNR-1. But what matters is at .5 range. Z clocks in at 10.8 and BMD clocks in at 11.9.
@StillPictureProduction
@StillPictureProduction 4 жыл бұрын
F6 is not the same ball park as Pocket 4K. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
@StillPictureProduction
@StillPictureProduction 4 жыл бұрын
​@@AlexDon Wasting hours of converting Zraw or having to get an Atomos for raw, while I try to edit... no thanks. pocket 4k still has more DR than any Zcam 4k, but you do you boo.
@WesleyClouden
@WesleyClouden 4 жыл бұрын
No Z-raw
@Snowboy2015
@Snowboy2015 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, my Latino friend, thanks for the vid.how about more footage next time and getting there faster with less talking 😳😁🙈
@BaBa-d3t
@BaBa-d3t 21 күн бұрын
Z❤magnificence روعه
@isart3757
@isart3757 4 жыл бұрын
color science is the one and only qualification "thanks black magic"
@sd02113744
@sd02113744 4 жыл бұрын
dude u have everything that i want to have :D
@TonesOnTheTrack
@TonesOnTheTrack 3 жыл бұрын
black magic slow motion the tomatos watyyyyyy redder
@SerganteCom
@SerganteCom 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! BM ' 1300$ ... Zcam '1900$ ((((((....
@AutoFOCUSED.
@AutoFOCUSED. 4 жыл бұрын
This video had a lot of great comparisons but also seemed pretty damn biased.
@thenemesis2461
@thenemesis2461 4 жыл бұрын
nice video bro
@isart3757
@isart3757 4 жыл бұрын
Pocket 4k is better colour 😉😉
@cAPIVARAff
@cAPIVARAff 4 жыл бұрын
esse mano parece o kotaka kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkjhgfsjdhgfdsaghdsa
@proudjember
@proudjember Жыл бұрын
Rendian88 use Your Photo,Are You Rendian88?? You Must Look Now Brodie
@AlexDon
@AlexDon Жыл бұрын
I don’t know who is that but it’s not me, he might be stealing my content
@welldone8235
@welldone8235 4 жыл бұрын
you lost me @ 0:30 , lol
@JackOLanternBob
@JackOLanternBob 4 жыл бұрын
Does the zcam have a 4 by 3 sensor tho? I know the bm doesn't
@kalilsuyan871
@kalilsuyan871 3 жыл бұрын
Micro four third MFT
@murph6547
@murph6547 3 жыл бұрын
ZCAM E2 is Epic
@ashburtontv
@ashburtontv 4 жыл бұрын
you had already made your mind up before you started not a balanced review
@AlexDon
@AlexDon 4 жыл бұрын
ashburtontv dude I filmed the side by side test before I started talking.
@realmuzikstudiostv
@realmuzikstudiostv 4 жыл бұрын
The pocket 4k is easy to mount on the ronin s.. 😂 😂 😂 😂 Your bias is showing
@mind.of.bennett4860
@mind.of.bennett4860 3 жыл бұрын
You're assuming someone is biased because they didn't have the same experience as you. Your ignorance is showing.
@realmuzikstudiostv
@realmuzikstudiostv 3 жыл бұрын
@@mind.of.bennett4860 😂 😂 😂 😂
@nathanviard7647
@nathanviard7647 2 жыл бұрын
Super la vidéo mais arrête de te dessiner une moustache on sait qu'elle est fausse
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