BMW 320D G20 XDRIVE TEAM TEST | FIFTH GEAR

[@kevinprince89]

If Tiff was there, Vicki wouldn't be the one getting into the boot. It just isn't right without Tiff #BringbackTiff

[@mrgreen9388]

2.17 the car or you?

[@k1ortia]

i agree, still the best car show, but tiff is the man when it comes to driving hard and going sideways.

[@sebastianlim2499]

Please let Tiff come back, fifth gear is so different without him.

[@terryc4vts670]

When top gear replaced the presenters I got sick of everyone saying bring them back..... But! Tiff! No offence, Tiff is Fifth Gear for me..... His chemistry with Vicki and Jason was brilliant and I always felt like when him and Jason were having "dog fights" they were equal drivers so the cars were getting a fair comparison 🤷🏻‍♂️ just my 2 cents.

[@longtailgt]

Watching Tiff and Jason arguing over cars was such good entertainment lol

[@FAT8893]

Agree with you about Top Gear, Clarkson and co are already having great fun at Amazon Prime. I was like, "Just go there ffs!".

[@hondansx1000]

I miss Tiff

[@mrgreen9388]

Have found lovecars yet? Tiffs new channel .

[@ollielappage7775]

Why Is he not on here anymore?

[@miticaorasan395]

We all do😢

[@scottbrandon4855]

Bring back Tiff. Big mistake letting him go

[@adamchase1517]

Your videos are shot in 2019 feels like I’m watching something from 2008

[@BuzzaB77]

you can tell it's good when no one mentions it's a diesel.

[@zanrekic]

I have driven one and i'll only say I was blown away by it's 2.0 diesel engine beacuse it doesn't fell like a diesel engine at all.And it has a lot of performance 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@scoopermg8226]

Lol. Get a model 3. This thing is old already

[@saauuzza]

@@zanrekic what's the diff to prev gen 320d, same engine.

[@zanrekic]

@@saauuzza I don't know probably beacuise the sound that they put in the cabin...and the car is lighter for about 100kg if I am wright...I don't know I only know the car fells better then before🤔

[@TristanSilverwood]

Scooper MG model 3 costs £8000 more and pales in comparison to the quality and refinement of a 3 series

[@harrisondrake-brockman7236]

4:09 Look how good that looks

[@levisanderson6951]

Harrison Drake-Brockman could easily get away with being an M3 from that angle

[@AnthonyTouset]

No Tiff, No like #BringBackTiff

[@SamsungKE]

A 7.... a rudding 7!!!! Easily an 8 or 8.5... would be a 9 or 9.5 if it was the M

[@MD-uu5nt]

It's an ugly modern BMW. Their current range is hideous.

[@tomis1439]

This was the most horrendous and confusing score given to such a positively spoken about car ever on FG.

[@thegreat0220]

It *_is_* an M

[@Destroyah32]

Taolo Samuel it’s not. It’s M spec but not an M3 which is what MrTry meant

[@SamsungKE]

Samuel thank you. Some special people on KZbin comments. Wasn’t even gonna justify him with a reply so thank you for doing it. Must think an AMG line is a real AMG too.

[@simoncook1885]

Why did that guy give it a 7? Did I miss a bit?

[@kaymac730]

We are all just as confused

[@sal.m7863]

Probably a Merc fanboy.

[@stevem2323]

Doesn't look like someone who can figure out good cars.

[@tasibnawaz7643]

Nope but he defo missed something whilst shaving

[@deltagames3864]

Should be 0

[@SwaggerBot_72]

Great car love the wheels, they must be one of the best I’ve seen on a new 3 series

[@qwerty123il]

They’re M performance sadly so you’ll rarely see them. Very expensive!

[@tomis1439]

Can someone explain please what was the reason it got such a low overall score compared to how many positive things it was said about the car! Did i missed something?!?!?! I don't get it..

[@richardbaker696]

The average score was 8.1 out of 10. Or 81%. So does that explanation look better?

[@tomis1439]

@@richardbaker696 that still doesn't answers my question and doesn't explain anything :)))

[@richardbaker696]

@@tomis1439 Oh well no probs I tried anyway :-)

[@tomis1439]

@@Cristi_Manea then why they don't criticize it because of that and give the scores accordingly?

[@lukaposeidon8490]

I agree.If they had no complaints they should've given the car 10/10.Guy gives the car 7/10 and doesn't even say why.Same goes for the other folks.

[@brd2deth939]

When you’re from the U.S. you know it’s a good car when it’s labeled a “Good bit of kit”👍🏻

[@jasonfredericks8107]

I own a f30 320d sportline and I can promise you this car has humbled many a performance car, every body hates on diesel but they don't realise the amount of torque it produces off the line as its compression no spark plugs. Take my word on it. Excellent road handling, power on demand specially in sport and sport plus modes.The only cars thats ever humbled mine was 2 so far, ie The ford focus st and the Golf 7 R. Thus trust me, most of the sport performance sedans doesn't hold a candle to these bad boys. However, want more power, just get the 330 with 2 cylinders more.

[@aliozdil6586]

A very aggressive rear end I love it

[@toms_garage]

The new 3 series is stunning!

[@obie_offishal]

2:51 he’s really holding on😂🤣😂😂

[@shree384]

Not many people notice it

[@powerswearingfluids]

Yes, the golden age of motoring journalism and its creators like Tiff Needell,Jason Plato, Vicki Butler Henderson, Johnny Smith,Chris Harris, Steve Sutcliffe, Owen Mildenhall and Jethro Bovingdon have showed us what driving is about. Enjoy internal combustion engines and purest forms of mechanical engineering while you still can! In the name of modern car TV programs. On the edge driving and giving maximal feedback to the viewer seems not to be necessary in the world of TV any more. When engineering millimetrically accurate shots that we saw Timothy Needell and Chris perfecting. This is the connection that motorsport enthusiasts want to see. The relation between car and driver could be improved and going about could be a fully responsive, responsible and joyful process. These guys here created a whole new Era of car programs that of course had an entertainment value but above else gave viewers the real-world data of the vehicles we drive. Might it be that because there is no necessity to understand driving characteristics due to modern vehicles that control traction and driver input that there is no need to attain basic knowledge of vehicle dynamics? Effectively when driving a modern car the driver sets steering and throttle position in relation to road grip levels over the parameters of chassis balance and traction, the computer helps to distribute the power to individual wheels, calculates lateral and longitudinal forces and lets the electromechanical differential or electric engine(s) yaw the wheel torque in the safest possible way meanwhile taking into account drivers wishlist of steering and throttle position and the overall preordained target of a computer and driver is then matched by various other possible safety nets thus the computer has actually helped to make the driver not be involved directly in the process of actually controlling the vehicle. This passive way of moving about sometimes lacks immediacy that is acquired to fully use vehicles balance when avoiding an object because forces that are involved in the process are distributed by electromechanics that basically actively cancel out pendulum effect and rear end movement. Thus creating initial understeer effect and in these fractions of seconds, it is entirely impossible to steer your car away from the object. because of safety development potential reaction time and agility has actually plummeted unlike advertisers like to tell you. The input you make has a secondary value. This value helps to prevent accidents as much as it helps to cause them. The driver, being an active part of integrated electronic counteractivity is why it is not essential to understand how cars work or handle any more. A great mark for safety there to make people deliberately less responsive of their actions as we achieve anomaly in our core in order deviate in our wake of perceptiveness. Stuff cars with heavy safety systems and leave us with the realms of passive safety, while sustaining distraction and irresponsibility from active safety by touchscreen onboard computer, low NVH levels. Jet again all that prone to understeer weight when trying to avoid an accident in the first place is engineered in for a safety in mind so that pendulum effect could not occur and the car in which it was designed for could fulfil its technical ability to absorb frontal impact. They are built to crash. Using a pendulum effect with small counter correction is usually the only way to save a car from the accident in the last possible moment but it is safer to dial down steering lock and choose a safer jet less dynamic option to so-called ´´maintain control´´ over the vehicle where your secondary value as a driver wastes potentially life-saving reaction time but in contrast 95 percent of the time causes initial understeer while maintaining forward momentum so that traction and steerability could be restored as soon as the possibility of car going neutral is eliminated by individually braking wheels, predicting oversteer u via electronic computing and other systems that behave to evade oversteer meanwhile panically the driver applies more steering lock and minimizing front end grip so that the driver wouldn´t have to control oversteer which is difficult to do and acquires skill.In other words this situation is moronic and countereffects the force that might be necessary to evade a crash. There are areas that can not be controlled by your own will anymore because of our lack of knowledge and nannying legislations. All seems to work well in commercials and we buy into them. Certainly if returned back to the topic you can not call sacking Tiff from Fifth Gear a brave decision if there is so much disappointment From fans and Tiff himself. Eliminating fanatic driving from a car program in order to make it a car show with modern and contemporary entertainment values of television in mind is I believe the opposite of what some people and car fanatics in that sense want to see. The involvement of pure driver inputs is missed out more than ever before because of the industry that is monopolized- ´´Legitimate´´ corporations that agree on making the same product. From a financial point of view, every aspect of industry becomes centralized and falls into a real-world Powerpoint presentation of resources that we seem to have no control over but we do know how to consume them. We live in a controversial world, not by mistake. Everything is there for a reason and for someone's interest. Going back to tv shows there is also little difference between top gear and fifth gear. They also end up making a fun scripted tv show and i understand that. Tiff said that he was utterly gutted when he was fired in the last minute and looking from the response, so is the viewing public. I have watched Tiff from donkey's years testing driver-focused cars on the edge and above giving us drivers useful information. It is obvious that the format has been made much more commercial and shallow. Just like making new automated cars that very rarely are offered with a manual gearbox. Now it is the time of thriving someone else's idea of moving forward in this passively secure and delusional modern world because we are offered what majority of us want. Everything becomes so generic including us and everything around and I could have never imagined Fifth gear, the true father of journalistic motorsport becoming a program where cheap humour and smiling faces, snappy puns and some foreign younger faces try to fill the time of the genre with their inexperience. I am sorry but the idea of changing the appearance with A British mechanic wolverine lookalike who knows his technical world and snooker star Ronnie O Sullivan who first was scared silly, not expecting anything about the vehicle performance when sitting on the passenger side of Vicky when he first appeared in the show years ago are there to make jokes and fun creating somewhat meaningless scenes about a program that used to give performance data. Wow yeah, some director bloke really upped the game sacking current historic racing driver Mr legend crazy man Tiff Needell from the show he actually founded. And now this show is really upmarket and dull. I am being harsh here because of utterly moronic but safe and at first glance profitable decisions. New era brilliantly sporty rear bias clutch derived AWD. Yes plato was sticking it ang gripping it but where are tortured tires and on and over the limit driving? Tell me one time when Tiff managed to be boring or not entertaining. This guy is an utter madman, a speed freak and one of the best road car auto testers in the world according to F1 drivers. constantly sawing behind the wheel balancing every single vehicle on the limits of its grip with its unique driving style is what made him famous back in the days of single seating racing cars where he became so good at what he did that he deliberately started to drift the vehicles that already acquired constant chassis balancing on throttle so that there was more to enjoy from our perspective. These times are gone. R.I.Pieces the golden age of motoring journalism. We have no informative videos being published from Autocar and steve Sutcliffe, No drivers Republic and Chris Harris and Fifth gear with Tiff where the technical assessment was the key part of the show in every single segment. There is no need in commercial business. Long live youtube, big boobs and fire!!!!

[@fastriderDE]

What a magnificent machine! I loved it

[@Oldbugger64]

I checked one of these out today, love it, unfortunately my wife, who knows nothing about cars, won’t entertain the idea because it’s “too low down and it has sports tyres” Well, yes, that’s the general idea.

[@lungulet]

"It has more space in the interior than ever before".....because it is bigger than ever before!

[@JBOsurf]

Wolverine has really let himself go.

[@ThatRandomGuy20]

Tiff would have had this sideways one handed whilst telling us the spec and operating the hand gestures

[@k1ortia]

Amen

[@marcvic_1595]

Loved Platos gesture controls demo lol

[@虎ちゃん-v8t]

This 3 series just won 2 btcc championships this year

[@Thanos.m]

of course it will have class leading boot and interior space since its grow to the size of a 5 series you can't even call it a compact anymore

[@RB_750GS]

That m performance pack is just essence

[@richboy900]

The neat reverse feature reminds me of the forza rewind/flashback 😂

[@PapatsoMopaka]

Sporty... economical... practical... good looking... techy... this car is a all rounder that deserves minimum 35/40... you guys are just haters and dont know what to expect from a car. You probably a Mercedes fan club

[@wesammansour1486]

Looks Amazing!

[@MG-ce3dx]

Tiff was fifth gear ... he was first and after him, came the others... the rest are just mappetz

[@freddieredding4565]

I find it interesting that no car publications (that I know of) have reviewed a non-M spec 3 Series.

[@siraff4461]

Thats most likely a mixture of BMWs press fleet probably being almost entirely made up of Ms, publications wanting the nicest looking one to make their pics look good and most of the time when you walk into a BMW dealer you can get at least the M look option for almost nothing since they want the cars on the road to attract as much attention as possible. It would be nice to find out what the best seller was in the last model and get that on here. Of course that may well be the 320d anyway.

[@sergiomartins98]

Top gear made it in the past

[@welz2002]

Some serious sideburns in this programme....

[@vivekpund4997]

#BringTiffBack

[@theodor12]

Tiff is making really cool content on the LoveCars youtube channel. Take a look at his 911 GT1 video, it was awesome.

[@prabhugautham]

The BMW 320D G20 looks really sexy and also it seems good on road performance.

[@dhirenderkumarcarandgadget5520]

now BMW OWNER of Rolls Royce the logo of BMW stay upright just like phantom

[@scott1brayden2]

Need to clarify only msport up come with idrive 7 with gesture control

[@shehryar1091]

Okay. Now team test the BMW 5 and 7 Series

[@TheWolfe83]

No description of the x drive model or what it does

[@saskwotch19764]

“Amazing”, “Stunning”, “Wow”... “7”. Erm, WTF.

[@garrywill-not-comply3073]

Definitely worth considering if BMW offer a grill-delete as a no cost option!

[@stevem2323]

Huh? The grill is awesome.

[@Thatit777]

It would be nice to hear why they gave it the score they gave. So, we know what was the downside and what took 1, 2 or 3 points of it. 🤔

[@mileslaw]

Looks like a proper M3

[@mountjoy23]

It looks like a diesel with big wheels and stickers.

[@danbi2000]

When it comes out then u should be surprised

[@Ethankeenan02]

@@mountjoy23 just because its deasil doesnt mean its bad bmw make the best deasil engiens around especially the 330d witch bmw said is just as good as the 330i but better mpg more torque

[@Ethankeenan02]

@@mountjoy23 i wouldent say no if someone gave me one even if it is a deasil because deasil bmws are better for daily driving

[@MD-uu5nt]

@@Ethankeenan02 if reliability is no concern at all then you can claim BMW make the best engines. But considering how poor the reliability record of BMW diesel engines is then that's a ridiculous claim.

[@marius1987ism]

Intresting : yes Needed? No! That seems to sum up his beard ,😂

[@mastodon-nj6fc]

I have the same car with the 3 litre engine and it rocks.

[@marjanmiladinovic4066]

That bmw looks sexy af 😍

[@kristianspencer1978]

Looks good in that colour with the m performance kit but £40000 is a lot to pay for a 320 dmsport. In 340 form it would be better, but for that money I would buy a vxr8 Bathurst s. Beautiful car. 560 bhp with a manual gearbox.👍

[@ArslanAhmad1]

Bring back tiff ...without him fifth gear is nothing ☹

[@trusty099]

Considering this should be the ultimate driving machine, score of 32.5/40 seems a tad low?!?

[@MD-uu5nt]

BMW haven't been the ultimate driving machine for years. Crap steering feel, horrible manual gearboxes, fake engine sounds, etc. None of that screams drivers car.

[@razerone49]

The new gen tail lights look like it’s a Lexus IS on the road until you get close enough to see the badge. That annoys the heck out of me

[@AA-os1sg]

Lexus IS nice cars in F Sport trim

[@Leonidae]

Does the gesture control set off the horn when you flip the bird to the twat going slow on the fast lane?

[@Mr11ESSE111]

better name of channel will be sixth gear because manuals are sixth most and automatic can go up to ten but fifth are now most for only older cars and those with no more then 100-115hp

[@leenevin8451]

The grille looks like it’s stuck on

[@santana9537]

Amazing kit. 330i m performance pack in mineral grey for me

[@alltrack_r]

What's the name/code for those alloys ?

[@BIGGEST786]

795m

[@martinblomqvist1870]

I'm dying to know who made Jimmy shave his beard like that

[@darkbassi5911]

Met Tiff at an event a few years ago. Let’s just say “never meet your hero’s” 🤨

[@jagchatha5958]

Do tell more!

[@darkbassi5911]

Jag Chatha just a rude arrogant clan. I asked what car do you own tiff “I’ve got a 335i”, my reply “oh rite my uncles just brought a 335d” to which he simply turned his nose up and looked the other way. Gave that impression of what a shit car.

[@qwerty123il]

D Bassi I did the passenger ride with him at thruxton a few years back and he didn’t come across that way at all for me, he was talkative and genuinely nice! Maybe you got him on a bad day? I mentioned my RX7 and m135i and he didn’t give a bad word

[@darkbassi5911]

TobyLeRone not sure he was quite drunk when I met him. From that day I thought what a cock.

[@jgvbadv]

0-62 is stated 6.9 sec not 7.4 for xdrive

[@TehMunchkin]

Fire 🔥🔥dream car

[@tighematthew]

Where is Tiff? NOT the same anymore

[@gabrielcaramet3238]

You si im a audi fanboy but that bmw is so good

[@4rfrgr4]

Hate the new grills on BMW But this is a beautiful car.

[@DaveDVideoMaker]

There is no disc changer in the new 3 Series.

[@Medea007]

She's a perfect 10.

[@krashok1602]

Improve the camera quality

[@bbb12345]

I'm asking it for years. Looks like a TV show from 1990.

[@gordonmccartney5648]

If like the previous version in Xdrive form you don't get M Sport suspension

[@3dlll]

Where is Tiff ? What a shame, im not enjoying the video right now. #bringbackourtiff

[@ShoelDaniel]

Man we need tiff. Tiff is fifth gear

[@petercavellini3232]

Jimmy alright, yes, Tiff did his party piece, the show is still better than the current Topgear on the BBC Channel.....

[@milo100kilo]

Great car 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@stef123992]

Ultimate Drivers Machine, Car for Drivers, Petrolheads... But if you can back it out of a tight parking spot, it will do it for you...

[@santana9537]

Really want the new 330i

[@vladmihai306]

nice, wolverine is part of this show

[@Jahmed5635]

Why is the video quality looking like something that’s came from 2006?

[@richardraybould6928]

But given how good you all said it was you then gave it 7s and 8s without explaining why..

[@Colin-kh6kp]

Can't wait till this car is old enough for me to afford.

[@robloxfan4271]

Wheres tiff gone?!

[@theodor12]

God it looks awful with that M Performance crap all over it. It's a great car without that though.

[@romankrusec4601]

Come on producers; admit your mistake, apologize to the man and #bringbackTiff

[@dhirenderkumarcarandgadget5520]

superrrrrrrr.ever than any BMW

[@Kraken1000]

Let's see it on normal roads and whether or not a trip to the shops will need a spinal surgeon later.

[@AW_2000]

I had one as a courtesy car from BMW for a few days, it rides really well. It's genuinely quick, Its really all the car you'd ever need.

[@hahmed5169]

Tiff was to fifth gear what clarkson is to the grand tour. #BringBackTiff

[@PriyabrataHalder]

CAPTAIN PRICE!!!

[@tripleceven]

7, wolverine is tripping. Also why would a parked car need aerodynamics

[@langraman8756]

Hybrid Lexus IS is better , more realiable you get more standard equipment and does more MPG and you don't have to use ad blue

[@lucasrustt]

Without tiff is kinda boring

[@kylegilday]

Video is missing something. Tiff, it's missing Tiff

[@jackmill6301]

# BRING BACK TIFF #

[@lanehogger1532]

Shame about Tiff as he was awesome. I bet Plato is nervous about being next as he is pretty old too.

[@V_Dubya]

I thought @carpervert was looking a bit peaky in the back.

[@НенчоНенов-й8з]

E46 330ci or 328ci

[@aoganlynch]

Ah lads. No mention whatsoever of the engine or power output - what is this? - Top Gear?? 🙄. Besides the fact that it's nearly 2020 and surely there was a more future-representative petrol or hybrid model in the range you could have tested in place of the dreaded 4 pot Diseasel :(

[@TheJoesmoe1987]

Bring back tiff

[@joshuaoverton3309]

4:09

[@ZenGamer97]

best daily ever. 330i

[@ethicalelectricalgroupltd3153]

Has Tiff left 5th gear?!?!

[@maz500]

He was sacked apparently

[@xxxxx4381]

M performance doesn't go with 320d. Should've had the 330i at least.

[@matthewking5612]

What's going on with this Pizza guy? BRING BACK TIFF!!!

[@burakisik5216]

The previous 3 series got 34 points out of 40. 1,5 points more than this new 3 series. 🤔

[@leenevin8451]

Had a terrible interior the old one

[@5thgearouttahere]

*But how many Vickis to a Tiff ???*