BMW E60 M5 S85 V10 Engine Misfire And Rough idle Causes And Fixes

[@artbrookey3468]

Man, you hit the nail on the head with so much you said here. One thing you left out, right under the throttle actuators, sits idle actuators..at about $600 a pop. But if you are in there, do them. I have the same car, same Indianapolis Red, with the Portland interior. Bingo, people buy these used, run the hell out of them, don't fix the abuse issues, sell them, then the next owner goes on the forums and says they are junk. They don't wanna pay what 10w60 oil costs, so they make excuses...so and so says 10w40 is fine, or whatever. I believe rod bearings go fast, because people have no idea how to warm this V10 properly, use the wrong oil etc...IF, the bearing was the problem, don't you think BMW would have fixed that way before now?...I don't know, I have had two, yes they are not cheap to work on, but if you want cheap, but a Ford/Chevy and drive what EVERYONE else has. I use only Redline 10w60, Redline75w140 limited slip diff oil, Redline fluid for the SMG

[@Bouhlev]

You also hit the nail on the head

[@MichaelShelley-v1f]

Spot on! Well said! I use liquid moly products. Just my preference and I have had no issues. I also had a few things done as soon as I purchased the car. I did my rod bearings the first week with ARP bolt. I used the BE bearings. This was done at a certified shop. My self I did the spark plugs, coil packs, both ionic current modules, fuel pump, fuel filter, I have the throttle bottle actuators and the idle actuators and I have had them for a year now but have not had the time to put them on yet but will very soon. Just out a brand new set of Continental contact O2 sport on her literally last Friday. I just order the Pcv valves, thermostat, and the pinion seal and diff oil even though it’s not leaking once I go under the hood that will be it for a bit. I have not replaced the charcoal fuel filter canister yet either. That will be in the near future as well. Next big purchase is brakes and rotors. Ugh. That’s a little ticket. Oh I did by 2 of the O2 sensors. (1) upstream and (1) down stream

[@artbrookey3468]

Yea, when I was in mine, throttle actuators, I did the idle version as well

[@topofthepodium187]

I had my bank one idle actuator fail so I replaced both pair. I was told the previous owner replaced one of the throttle actuators but they both looked the same age to me. They are working fine so I’ll replace them later.

[@112hounddog]

I just finished working on my E60 M5, I've been working on it since March using DIS v57 and I finally got all codes and faults sorted out, made me so happy when I ran a scan and returned no faults

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

My 08 s600 would not like it if there were no codes at any one time😂

[@papimj5704]

Found this channel out of nowhere will be following !

[@reginaldmorton2162]

I think Nat is beginning to really enjoy driving the M5... hes not swearing as much.

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Yes finally !!!

[@tech42long35]

NOICE.. berry NOICE.. I live in North.Mex Just rebuilt my 71 caprice.. double JATO's in back.. close to a cliff-wall.. roads are so sweet there.. I got passed by this burgundy M5..

[@JohnnyPottsIII]

Agree this is not a daily driver. I bought mine knowing this. Highly discourage anyone from buying one that is going to be their daily driver.

[@paulmakarovsky9455]

Bro I rather own a m6 same year Sony you agree akao!? If not please explain bro? Thanks!!!

[@JohnnyPottsIII]

@@76tfdtr4r5 this car WILL leave you stranded at some point. Both of my vehicles are sorted at the moment. I Just know the E60 M5 has left me stranded in the past. My daily was there to get me too and from work. It's Better if one has AND can afford a secondary form of transportation when owning this car is what I am saying.

[@JohnnyPottsIII]

@@76tfdtr4r5 do you own an M5?

[@JohnnyPottsIII]

@@76tfdtr4r5 it's a convenience thing for me. If my one M5 was down I would be stuck. And economically speaking you may be right but why have one toy when you can have/afford two? ;-) I have had my M5 for 8 years now. At one time I was running a c-class as my daily and the M5. Then moved on to an E61 530xi and the M5. Now its TRD Pro 4runner and M5. The M5 has had ionic modules go bad, throttle actuators go bad, alternator go bad, clutch went on it, SMG had to be replaced. All that time I had a daily that I also loved to drive and could rely on while my M5 was being repaired.

[@JohnnyPottsIII]

@@76tfdtr4r5 ok sure thing. Have a good one.

[@kossimensah5007]

That looks like a beast.

[@3ricky13]

what are the red reflection inside the center grill. they look cool.

[@andoniades]

All these years, I though it was just from condensation in the combustion chamber. Like how old men cough a little when they wake up

[@diopsidem5]

Does the car vibrate when it idles rough? in my case, I can feel and see the doors vibrate when you open them while the engine runs idle in neutral. I am still investigating what causes this vibration. Filters, oils, fluids, rubbers (from the airbox which you mentioned), MAFs, coilpacks, sparks, etc replaced. Also changed the flywheel. I still get the vibration though

[@jameswiththeM6]

Fuel injectors?!

[@ep9321]

I have an 2008 with 147k. Original RBs (clean oil, also fine studies), changed actuators around 93k. Clutch coming up, lasted around 80k. Been lucky!

[@MrBigBoy4Life]

These cars are a labor of love I guess. I just want a car that needs routine maintenance and not having to deal with these chronic issues.

[@Jmoney22101]

This video is spot on. I just solved my chronic misfire: coils, plugs, and the ionic controller all had to go. El guapo is an expensive beast but damn is she worth it

[@giraykharizzma7737]

I have a vacuum leak somewhere so which parts should I replace on the car ?

[@herrbela84]

How was the trip to Northern Mexico?:)

[@artbrookey3341]

I have this car in this color, a 2006 M5. My mirrors will randomly tilt up/down, when I spray the car with water [doors]. I know where all the fuses are, but have no idea which one controls this, as I have no diagram. Do you know where it is/which one? Thanks....by the way, BMW says all these has Daytime running lights, mine does not, not even a setting in Idrive. Ever seen this?

[@Michaelplays53]

Excellent video Nathan 👍Have a great weekend!!

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Thanks Michael

[@joedirt8625]

Ghost and Gremlins. I have said it before..... You are a Patient Human. Howz The AirCon Bro?

[@JohnLetra]

hey bro i just bough a 2008 bmw m5 on my way home the transmision malfuntion come up and there also a code for p0174 bank 2 lean i ask the owner he say i need to replace 4 new camshaft poisition sensor is that correct? and he also say he replace the camshaft sensor like 4 year ago and clutch and flywheel replace 15k mile ago

[@petercan1020]

Thanks for the video quick question is the Icom necessary when using insta nobody will seem to answer me I want to download is the in info I was just wondering what the Icom does?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

the icom is faster so you would need it for some programming, but jsut for reading fault codes the cable is fine

[@GeorgeAusters]

Good title my man!

[@stuartboakes1017]

Great video Nathan

[@stuartboakes1017]

Mine sounds just like yours on cold start I thought I had a problem!

[@billyingram5394]

Nathan I have a question please. What are the common fla6with the 2003 M5 please? Thanks alot man

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

The common flaws? If so still rod bearings , clutch can be expensive , the getrag manual trans can have bearing issues , and all the usual e39 problems window regulators abs pump etc

[@PeteRoy]

BMW & Bosch no longer makes fuel injectors for this car, how do we replace fuel injectors for the E60 M5 in the future?

[@outpostprime]

o.o first xD sweet upload Nathan!

[@ricklane8554]

Do I see 2 lights in the grill Nathan?

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

oh no those are air scoops , red plastic

[@ricklane8554]

@@NathansBMWWorkshop Hmmm ok :)

[@lflaco77]

I need some help. I have an issue with multiple misfires bank 1. Misfires cylinder from 1-5. Not the coil packs, Ive replaced plugs, ionic sensor, checked my O2 sensors all Working properly. I dont get any other codes.

[@Ricky199539]

You were able to fix your problem dude?

[@ewebbytrailscout]

Smoke test! after 14 years, bound to be air leaks. save money get a $75 paint can one on eBay. taking parts on and off can fix it or create gaps, so replacing other parts trick you into thinking it was a coil when it was a leak.

[@carlosavelino9849]

I daily drive my e63 m6 108k miles and strong 💪🏽

[@fordman3333]

what exhaust are you using?

[@MowerModdin]

These BMW wiring plugs are really finnicky, we were having VANOS codes on the passenger side for the exhaust on an N62 V8 and we literally swapped all of the VANOS solenoids around with a spare parts 7 series vehicle and there looked like there was nothing wrong with the solenoids themselves either, so yeah MAKE SURE YOU FULLY INSERT ALL OF THE PLUGS

[@cmatsumoto5225]

Hi I love your videos! I just acquired a 2006 M5. Misfire codes on 1,2,3,5 basically almost entire bank. I erase. Codes and limp mode appear within 5 seconds of start. With a scan it just pops up misfire codes Figured I rush the throttle since coils look new. And I tried swapping with driver bank. Don’t know the history of the car 😢 Housings say 2006. I removed gears and in fact they are worn. Definitely a fail Replaced both throttle actuator gears. Cleaned ITBs Ionic modules look original too Anyway. Assembled and it didn’t make a difference. Amazing, no codes for throttle with the worn gears. I’m down to an ionic module. I have one coming in to rule out or hopefully remedy the bank misfire If that fails, am I down to PCM corrosion, broken valve spring or vanos issue? Thanks 🙏🏼

[@NathansBMWWorkshop]

Ionic module , if only one bank is showing misfire

[@cmatsumoto5225]

Gotcha I will update when it arrives Again what I should’ve done is swap them and see if it cancels the other side Thank you very much. !!

[@cmatsumoto5225]

Unfortunately, it’s still misfiring 1,2,4,5 as soon as it starts. Then goes to reduced power Installed ionic module. I will check it out tomorrow, but now noticed Vanos rattle from that bank. Think I need to change those too. But before throwing parts at it I will scan it and verify what’s happening 😔 I’ll watch more videos soon. Drove these cars but never owned one til now I am still willing to learn a lot you and the M5 I own Thanks

[@demarcusyoung1438]

I have a 94 525i. What coil pack and spark plug do you recommend. I want high performance but don’t want to pay too much.

[@elissitdesign]

ECS Tuning online store has been good to me. OEM parts at reasonable prices. Quick shipping too here in California.

[@salmaniftikhar6583]

Hi, bro can you pls share all the vacume parts number , I want to change every single vacume of my car

[@samuelmaldonado828]

Im so happy that U love it...👍🏽

[@MrBigBoy4Life]

Is there ever going to be a time when you can say, “Ok, I’m done with the M5 for now except for routine maintenance, now I can move on to the next project”?

[@ryanmccollum6754]

Rod bearings EVERY 60k? Sheesh! I thought it was just a one-time thing to upgrade the factory bearings. I know that it'd be a long time to drive this another 60k but what a shame you have to do it. It's like a race car without any trophies.

[@robi4387]

No. You just get the later bearings and it’s sorted. There is so much bullshit on social media from people who don’t actually own one. And sadly a lot more from others who were not willing to pay for thorough maintenance.

[@PeteRoy]

Replace e Fuel Tank Breather valves and it solves misfires

[@markt9438]

Dude ,those roads are Sketchy Very Sketchy !!! LOL

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.

[@mikimiki195]

👍🏻

[@ianmowbray3284]

A lot of these cars sit for weeks or they are week end toys very few run them as daily drivers.

[@asecret900]

How confusing. You spent the first 10min putting shit on every component saying the S85 is all doom & gloom - but then at the end, reality finally comes out that with proper maintenance intervals this car has been great, only had a Chinese coil-pack fail - what the...?

[@hasmanknitter4082]

After this series on the M5 one thing for sure I would NEVER buy one of these

[@MrBigBoy4Life]

Preach Brother!

[@jokerash]

M5 E60 is only a BMW Fanatic Fan car who has a laptop with INPA/NCSexpert/DIS/Rheingold, etc. Then he must know how this engine works and the components inside it as well as the gearbox components. And of course a good salary/other income to afford maintenance. This is not the usual driver's car where you just pop in, push the start button and floor it. If you want that, go buy a ferrari for 10 times the price and the same performance, maybe slightly better.

[@vasme973]

Vorbesti prostii moo.

[@paulmakarovsky9455]

Hey I need your help can you plz help me with a question do you have a email? Also I'd love for you to work on my bmw plz do you live in nj or NY?@

[@greenman7612]

Nathan lives SW of St. Louis, MO.

[@papatwon]

This car is beautiful but what a Nightmare

[@lp2565]

Bad Ass car sounds. Totally Erotic. Nice video Nathan!

[@harishseethapathi7110]

is it worth it? haha seems like you have spent more time working on it than driving it