BMW G 650 GS Sertao rant after 20 000km

[@PatchedBandit]

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[@juanx22222]

I'm about to buy one of these as my first bike and as you said there are not many videos about it online so I'm glad I found yours. Just reaffirmed my decision :D

[@PatchedBandit]

Its a good bike for any length of trip. You are gonna have a good one with this for sure. I already regret not keeping mine 😪

[@NIOC630]

can confirm, i have mine (first bike) for >10 years & 86000km now, never regretted it a single day. Also easy to do maintainance on it yourself.

[@Ryuxcx]

I rented BMW G650 GS when I went on holiday back home. Although I only used it on normal road it performed amazing. It was an 360 km trip with , with bends and scenic views. It's a bike that won't let you down , and trust me it has all the power it needs.

[@PatchedBandit]

It sertainly is a bike that is missing from the current bmw lineup. Or any other manufacturer to be frank. It's sad that we don't have more competition in the 170-190kg weight category.

[@Ryuxcx]

@@PatchedBandit Yes I feel the same way.I wish they could produce it again.Sadly the model is discontinued.

[@pawpawbandit3871]

@@PatchedBandit what do you think about the new 2024 Royal Endfield Himalayan vs. a used Sertao, thanks

[@nobodyyouknow222]

@@pawpawbandit3871 whooo boy... vw vs porsche

[@pawpawbandit3871]

thanks, thinking of getting one as my only daily./ all around/ future adventure / small road trip bike

[@nobodyyouknow222]

very nice video...and nice to see some of beautiful Finland.

[@PatchedBandit]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@YouMotorcycle]

Two G650GS', one in Italy I've put 10,000 km on, and on in Canada I've put another 1,000+ km on. Haven't had a heated grip switch fail on me yet 🤔. I've put a lithium battery in mine too, with mixed results lol

[@PatchedBandit]

I rode mine about 20K and it was such a great bike to learn gravel on. I come from a long line of roadbikes and this little thing was my first knobby tired 2 wheeler 😄 I killed a shorai battery with this bike because this didn't have automatic lights. Left them on and lithium died. Nowadays I use BS lithium batteries that have internal discharge protection. Havent been able to kill one yet. Antigravity with the restart tech is not available in europe unfortunately 😒

[@matheff71]

I know I'm late to the party, but I'm considering this bike right now. That's the best review ever!

[@PatchedBandit]

Glad there is some good info for you. The 650 gs is a nice often overlooked model. Sertao or Dakar especially!

[@matheff71]

@@PatchedBandit I tried g650gs, its lovely but I feel like sitting on a chopper (188 cm height / 6'2) so I guess Sertao would suit me nice. Do you think it is worth 4,4k USD/4k EUR with 50k km on the odometer? it already got some soft luggage, center stand and stuff. I tried T7 and wasn't confident enough, it felt muuuch to high for me, hope you like the bike though, I'm still a newbie.

[@Sertao2013]

I have been on a waiting list for a honda crf 300L rally for almost 2 years . They still haven't call to tell me they have one . I gave up and started looking for something in the same price range . I found a really nice, not a scratch on it Sertao with only 4,000 miles on it . I am so glade I didn't get the rally . The sertao is so much more comfortable .

[@PatchedBandit]

Yes! Changing the seat made a big difference for me also. Sertao with my mods was more comfortable than my new Tenere 700. I could sit 11h days on my Sertao without any issues 😃 Nice to hear you like the bike. It is a reliable workhorse that will take you anywhere 🙂

[@Sertao2013]

@@PatchedBandit When your 63 comfort for off road riding is very important .

[@geraldtorres8907]

Love the Dakar sticker I have one on my sertao also

[@vincemarshall8550]

great vid thanks ,thinking of getting the dakar version for the fact its even older tech ,just want an easy plodder to get back into it ,cheers

[@PatchedBandit]

Enjoy!

[@fastkw2496]

I bought a Sertao with 1,600 miles and building it out to be the unicorn with more more power and yz suspension.

[@slakk5093]

I don’t need more power.. I’m buying the t7 because it has more power 🙂 the age old biker conundrum 😅

[@PatchedBandit]

True 😂 5000km on the T7. Sertao was a more comfortable bike.

[@nobodyyouknow222]

More of a love song, than a rant !

[@PatchedBandit]

@@nobodyyouknow222 True. This bike is missed 😁

[@oasisridersm.alsalman7755]

Excellent review and presentation 👍🙏

[@PatchedBandit]

Glad you liked it

[@ondkes]

Perfect video about G650G.What is ground clearence

[@PatchedBandit]

Cant remember from memory but the dakar and sertao models have a taller suspension and therefore bigger clearances.

[@mukabuka2809]

Hello from Croatia.. I just bought 2012 G650GS with stock seat and just as you said - my ass start to heart after 2-3hours.. can you tell me where did you buy this seat - looks really comfortable.. or if you did not buy it - tell me brand name ?? Thank you..

[@PatchedBandit]

Top Sellerie

[@nobodyyouknow222]

100 km hr= 62 miles per hour 120 kmh= 74 mph 130kmh= 80 mph (roughly)

[@7digger3]

Thank you.

[@PatchedBandit]

Thanks for watching ✌️🙂

[@rolandwheeler4842]

Did you perform your own maintenance: Valve checks etc? It seems complicated for a single cylinder bike, and also quite frequent as well. Hope you are enjoying your T7!

[@PatchedBandit]

I was lazy and paid for 1 valve check.

[@anttinaukkarinen2449]

Oikein hyvä video! Ostin juuri itse vastaavan 2012 mallia ja klipin perusteella se oli hyvä ostos. Vielä kun tulisi kesä ja pääsisi ajamaan!

[@PatchedBandit]

Oisko toka video minkä ikinä tein.. toivottavasti uudemmat on jo parempia 😅 Tästä on tosi vähän matskua netissä niin hyvä ku tein jotain kuitenki ennen myyntiä. Tää oli tosi asiallinen pyörä ja ketterä myös tarpeentullen, jos vertaa näihin uusiin 'keskikokoisiin', jotka on kaikki enemmän ja vähemmän ylipainosia. Ton yksipyttyisen luonne ei nosta hiuksia pystyyn, mutta siinä riittää kivasti vääntöä kaikkeen normiajoon, kunhan muistaa pitää matkatavarat kevyenä 😊 Mulla oli tässä yhen reissun isot metalliboxit kiinni ja sitä en suosittele.. liikaa tuulenvastusta ja painoa tällaselle kevyelle adv pyörälle. Jos voisin pitää kaikki pyörät mulla ois tää edelleen tallissa. Tosi kiva laite ja aivan varmasti on hyvä ostos 💪 Nähdään keväällä poluilla 😊

[@joaomaismagalhaes]

Thanks a lot for the review! I'm planning a trip to a very remote place where fuel stations will be a problem. What are your thoughts on the range of the Sertão? How many KM can you make with a tank? Did you take extra fuel with you on your longer trips? Thanks again!

[@PatchedBandit]

If I remember right the consumption was somewhere around 4-5L/100km. I did carry a small 1.5L canister on my longer trips just in case. Sertao gives pretty good range but plan your stops ahead of time if you have a place with very few fueling stations. We have one TET stretch in lapland that this bike probably could not pass without extra fuel too. But that's the case with most bikes. Good thing about the sertao is that it's not too picky on the fuel quality.

[@juanbartolome9744]

Just got a 650gs I was just wondering about the headlight guard how is it installed

[@PatchedBandit]

It came with the bike so can't remember how it's installed. I'm pretty sure this was a touragech part but they dont seem to have this anymore. Aliexpress looks to be selling a similar copy of this if you search their store.

[@gravyau]

The OEM seat is a disguised torture device

[@PatchedBandit]

Very true 😂 My CRF300L has a more comfortable seat.

[@damko80]

if you decide to sell / replace it... please, please sell me the oil cap :D begging you, i can also buy the TT wind screen adjuster - willing to pay well for it

[@PatchedBandit]

Sad to say but I already sold the bike 2 months ago 😑

[@damko80]

@@PatchedBandit ohh

[@fabianzuluaga9450]

Which is your new bike?

[@PatchedBandit]

@@fabianzuluaga9450 2022 Yamaha Tenere 700

[@alcrar]

Hello From México. What battery (Brand, model) are you using ?

[@PatchedBandit]

I had a Shorai battery in this bike but I've had 3 bikes with BS batteries since that and I prefer BS batteries. Quality is better and I killed one shorai battery letting it go empty but one of my BS batteries that drained didn't die so maybe there is some protection against discharge on these BS batteries that Shorai didnt' have.

[@alcrar]

@@PatchedBandit thank you very much. My bike its a 2004 F650gs so i want to buy a battery so can you help me with the model ?

[@PatchedBandit]

@@alcrar looking at BS battery finder it recommends ”BSLI-05” Check it out here: bs-battery.com/battery-finder-find-the-right-bs-battery/

[@David-gh2bz]

Hello mate, how about the vibrations? I like this bike but I fear the vibrations on the highway at 120/130, how are your feelings about this?

[@PatchedBandit]

It does vibrate more than any parallel twin that is for sure. Not the worst thumper but not the smoothest either. It's a large 650cc single cyl engine so vibrations are there for sure. I got used to them myself but hands do get "tingly" sometimes. Also It's not the greatest bike to do 120-130 for long distances. This bike is happier doing 100 when traveling especially with luggage. 120+ the engine does feel a bit stressed and out of puff even though it can do it. With this in mind I would recommend looking in to the light parallel twin bikes. This being said many people have travelled with these bikes all around the world so the vibrations can feel a bit much at first but it's something most people get used to. Also if you buy one of these they should be pretty easy to sell if you feel like it's not for you after a while.

[@David-gh2bz]

@@PatchedBandit Thanks so much for the answer, it helped me a lot. I am seeking an all-rounder bike and the biggest problem about the twins is how expensive it is to limit them for the A2 license, more than 500 euros, its crazy.

[@PatchedBandit]

@@David-gh2bz In general I dont hesitate on recommending these bmw 650’s. Well kept they are very reliable and easy to maintain workhorse bikes 😊

[@posterestantejames]

That's a RANT? Sounds like you like it! Sounds more like a RAVE!

[@patryk65]

Can you tell me about the GPS mount and windscreen you have?

[@PatchedBandit]

Windscreen is oem but the adjuster rack for it is touratech model that they do not sadly sell anymore. Phone mount is quadlock.

[@patryk65]

Bummer! Thank you for the information!

[@jantom1970]

where did you get the comfort seat from do you have a link.

[@PatchedBandit]

Its a top sellerie gel seat

[@shaundisch2020]

Did you try a 15t front sprocket for more torque? Did you try new suspension?

[@PatchedBandit]

No to both. Would have been interesting to try. But I did a lot of highway too so rpm would have gone up.

[@PatchedBandit]

No to both. Would have been interesting to try. But I did a lot of highway too so rpm would have gone up.

[@BOARMoto-bm2mh]

I recently went 14T and 45T and the rpms are up quite a bit but way more torque at slower speeds-quite noticeable. I have a Touratech high seat and progressive suspension and just switched from Metzeler Karoo3 tires (70/30ish tires) to Michelin Anakee (30/70ish) and there’s way less vibration.

[@jeffreyrobinson2155]

Never mind shit happens whats a little water😇

[@richardwhitehead4684]

Sell that bike and you’ll regret it.

[@PatchedBandit]

Already do 😭 but I cant have them all 😅

[@richardwhitehead4684]

@@PatchedBandit so true. And that works with deciding to _not_ buy more bikes. What did you replace the Sertao with, and, if you don’t mind, how much did you get for it? I’ve been unsuccessfully trying to find one for a couple years now.

[@PatchedBandit]

I bought a ne Tenere 700 and I probably got something like 5000 € for the Sertao with full hard luggage system. I paid something like 6900 € for the bike when I bought it though. One thing is important to understand when we talk about Finland and bike prices. In Finland bikes cost way more than in most of the world due to taxes so this will reflect also on used bike market. The bike I Buy for 7K here is probably 4K in other parts of this planet 😅 BMW 1300 GS Starting price in Finland is 26500 € in USA about 18000 € (Converted to EUR including taxes)

[@richardwhitehead4684]

@@PatchedBandit thank you for the info. While maybe not as high as Finland, bike prices (like everything else) in the US have gone up a lot in the past few years. Used bike prices are up significantly over historical price levels from a decade or so ago. I think it’s simply a demand pull effect because of the big increase in the number of people riding motorcycles. The increase in motorcycle use in the US over the past 10-15 years has really surprised me. Especially the rise of ‘adventure’ bikes and off road riding. Anyway, I hope you enjoy the Yamaha. I’m continuing my search for a Dakar or Sertao.

[@PatchedBandit]

Both excellent bikes. I wish you good luck in finding one! Also check out BMW G G650 XChallenge. Even harder to find but one of the mythical unicorns for sure 🙂