BMW G80 M3 RWD Nürburgring POV: Tremendous Driving Dynamics

After having driven the G82 M4 manual ( • BMW G82 M4 *Manual* Fi... ), I have always wanted to try the paddleshift version. Thanks to Vlad ( / vlanes ) we could make this happen!
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Topics & Time Stamps:
00:00 Intro
02:11 Lap
10:36 Aftertalk

[@JEDIXXXXX]

Hey Misha, i'm 205 white driver. Your channel is very fun . Congratulation.👍

[@redlightson]

Great driving! It's great to see an old school car being well driven.

[@JEDIXXXXX]

@@redlightson , thank you very 😉👍

[@mgcharoudin]

Can we please do a lap together? Dm me on insta @mgcharoudin or email misha at Carmrades dot com

[@pinocleen]

dooooo eeeeeeeeet!

[@964tractorboy]

Your 205 took-off like the proverbial scolded cat. Like it.

[@estewarrior1]

i missed the typical misha's "ill take it easy -> proceeds to floor it" moment at the beginning of the lap

[@mgcharoudin]

Sounds like a trademark 🤣

[@flippy9133]

wow that peugot at the end, didn't expect him to accelerate this hard lol

[@EpilepticNinja24]

The Mk1 S3 In the beginning. The Corrado And the Peugeot 205 In the End.. God Older Cars always fun to see.

[@wallstreetoneil]

that is a very fast and capable car - I predict many going into the guard rails because most new drivers will watch this and then, as usual, believe they can do it

[@pistonburner6448]

They should have a separate "Nürburgring Lap Control System" to keep drivers safe there, using all the sensors they have nowadays to know exactly where they are on the track, what speed, and have calculated the current grip levels to slow them down and/or warn them if it detects a totally wrong approach to any corner or section. It might be worth the investment knowing how many laps will be done around that track by BMWs made now over their lifetime. It won't be much cost when divided over all of those laps (and cost of crashes!).

[@drogenfeld]

@@pistonburner6448 That application is way too specific for a car like an M3. This car was not made for the ring and the company is not ring-focused, so doing this is a waste of money and time for them. What a customer does with their car is also not any of their problems or responsibilities. The car can be safely driven and that is what is required, if a wannabe-race crashes it, that is his responsibility.

[@papapetad]

@@pistonburner6448 It'd be more cost effective to sell more parts and cars. A simple optional on/off warning system would be interesting though. Makes sense.

[@xTheDeserter]

@@pistonburner6448 Well, if you crash your car you either get it fixed or get a new one, so a crashed car means profit for the company.

[@pistonburner6448]

@@drogenfeld I literally mentioned taking that into account in my comment, so it's a bit strange that you're telling me your estimation on that factor as if it's a new thing you thought of. First of all, I'd say it's not "too specific" for a car like an M3. I don't know what you mean about it not being made for the ring, as no car ever has been made for the ring and that makes not sense. Also BMW not being ring-focused similarly is nonsensical, as first of all it IS ring-focused as it has tested its cars there basically forever and has a fixed HQ there, sponsors it, races there in many series, etc. etc. etc. I also literally told you my estimation of why it WOULDN'T be a waste of money and time for them. Furthermore you say "a car like an M3". Why? Not only are there massive number of M3s on the ring constantly. Over a 20 year period the number of laps is huge. Just compared to the ticket price alone I'd think that this development cost will be pretty small. And the M3 isn't a separate car from the M4, 3-series, 4-series, and actually the system could probably be fitted as-is to much of the whole BMW range and at least with a few tweaks to take into account the different settings/parameters needed for the different sensor suites and different software systems probably to all of them. Minis and Rolls-Royces too, maybe even Morgans can use it! Fitting (just installing the software) to all cars with the same software system at least should be doable, meaning this would cover a huge range of vehicles. All sharing that development cost. And that will then work for all the laps they do there ever. That is not an insignificant amount of laps by the way, contrary to what you say. You are furthermore incorrect in what a customer does with their car not being any of their problems or responsibility. Totally incorrect in so many ways. That very much is a problem of theirs so much so that they spend a huge proportion of all of their work on exactly that. They are LEGALLY bound to "being responsible for what a customer does with their car" from crash structures to seat belt warning lights to maintenance programs to automatic blinkers... They also have to take into account, in cooperation with insurance companies, how expensive the car is to repair in many scenarios and how dangerous/safe it is. Bumper design has forever been dictated much by that in mind, as has so much else. Even reversing cameras are now mandatory (at least in the USA). So is ESP. So you are incredibly, astoundingly wrong. Of course no company would want to spend money on such a system even if it would be net positive in the end. Mostly because of people who buy these new would seldom want to pay any extra or just pay for it if always included, and overall people not wanting to pay for any safety stuff like that, including those tracking the car mostly not wanting it because they think they don't need it even though it's from that group that all the countless crashes happen of course. And because most insurance companies don't cover Nürburgring crashes they have no interest in joining in the development costs or lowering their customers' insurance premiums. Maybe those insurance companies actually covering Nürburgring driving might want to invest but I think that is an incredibly small business? Very few are insured there, and many are from abroad so no sense for foreign insurance companies to lower rates for all of their customers due to some of them going abroad and maybe one crashing. The Nürburgring crashers are so diverse and so few of them are paid for by any one company. Most I guess are paid for by the drivers themselves and as stated most won't want to pay extra. So this, although probably useful considering if you'd cover all of BMWs for the next say 20 years with extra safety on the Nürburgring reducing the risk of crash significantly would result in lots of savings, probably many times more savings than the costs, you won't find the right sources of payment for that and the whole customer pool won't be interested in paying for cover just for the few who even go to the Ring let alone then end up crashing. I'd think this might be a PR and marketing thing for BMW though: they put that not high at all development cost into marketing expenses and then in return get lots of publicity in volume and also in quality as I think being thought of strengthening their image as a high-tech AND motorsport brand will be valuable. If the Nürburgring track company itself would see a benefit they might even kick in a bit of money, as if they'd reduce the number of crashing BMWs that would mean pretty many avoided track closures which can mean disruption to hundreds and lots of lost ticket prices. Of course those who crash pay most of it but maybe the track company does see a benefit overall though, and does in fact still incur costs. At least the image, public acceptance of the race track and customer experience will certainly improve with less crashes.

[@samstedman409]

A lot of people say bmw “lost it” but I think they’re doing a damn good job with the regulations and market they have to work with today. Sure we don’t get those beautiful high revving NA engines anymore but these turbo engines are awesome and satisfying. Plus, the driving dynamics are just as good and well balanced as they used to be. Whether or not you like the way the new M3 looks, I think it’s an amazing car and quite possibly one of the last true bmws we’ll see since the next one is likely going to be a hybrid.

[@blocksource4192]

The new cars look amazing. not the new m5 that just dropped but new m3/m4, and the power is CRAZY too! I saw a tuned m3 that had a 9.0 sec 1/4 mile on fucking regular roads, not prepped conditions. Crazy cars. Im buying one 100%.

[@imKonsZa]

@@blocksource4192 My friend has the M3 2018 competition edition with swapped exhaust and just had stage 1 done, It's rocking like 550hp now. That thing flyyyyyyys and always puts a smile on my face when we drive to school. Highly recommend!

[@erikosius]

i have m4 2023 competition convertable, convertable has some nuances, but ignoring that, engine has unlimited power, you can floor it to speed limiter and it builds speed very well, i have black one with laser lights, so black front with blue acents matches very well, and to me its the best looking car bmw ever made.

[@telomnisi3048]

This was awesome, thank you Misha❤

[@eyesopen5836]

Simply awesome Misha! Thank you!

[@phillipchandler8862]

Great car and I like the new big grill. Gives a lot aggressive presence. Well driven Misha.

[@WheelzOH]

you know Misha enjoys a lap when he forgets the speed limited area lol

[@TheMilenkata]

True, true

[@UltimateDan1]

There’s a speed limited area? 🤔

[@dragospahontu]

@@UltimateDan1 yes

[@UltimateDan1]

@@dragospahontu Care to elaborate?

[@dragospahontu]

@@UltimateDan1 no

[@phantom2k10]

i'm all for the performance of the g80.Big step up for sure.Great vid as always misha

[@gastontaberner3542]

Very nice driving skilla Misha! Congrats from Spain 👏

[@Yelociti]

Need to go for a lap in that Peugeot at the end

[@clarkyclarke9817]

Love it! Great vid as always Misha.

[@davidgalemore5410]

you are an excellent driver. everything i was thinking to do you were doing. amazing work.

[@LloydManning]

Very Quick the M3 is a weapon! but that Peugeot at the end was epic!

[@Miggel_M2]

Great video again Misha!👍🏻

[@T.S.T2014]

WoW that view is like I’m right there, stunning drive Misha.

[@zbynekskrampal8530]

That white 205 is amazing 👌👍😊

[@fawoo_4235]

The video quality latrly has made these videis way more immersive and enjoyable to watch. Good job.

[@mgcharoudin]

Hqppy you noticed!

[@decepticon4162]

Great content always. Love watching before I go to bed every night 🌙

[@jstoli996c4s]

Another good lap Misha 👍

[@80wolfmanrob]

Accidentally woke up at 4am and bam Misha adds video might as well watch before going back to sleep lol.

[@rjnation5042]

Wow, that's a lot to unpack, great sounding car, really bold choice of interior colour, really fast lap, glad I wasn't taking a shot of vodka for every car you overtook, finally go find the little Peugeot from near the end of the lap, that thing was on it, thanks Misha, Rj in Oz

[@johnnys.9040]

Wow! This thing moves out! Looks frikin sick too🔥🔥

[@ikraam19]

Awesome driving there Misha

[@ALHEALY9110]

Yay! Look forward to 🇳🇴 Norway content! 🇳🇴

[@bernhard.k]

Good round Misha! I like it when you talk at the end. Interesting thoughts! By the way, same Tires as on the Plaid. But this tires have a few hundreds of kilos fewer to carry. Half of the plaid Power, slightly better laptime.

[@harshnirmal3403]

Amazing video

[@Yourlocaldirtbag]

Dude you’re awesome

[@lifegoesonbyrahuljoshiaka-6613]

Awesome ride 👌👌

[@user-wg5tl3xw6j]

The map on the dash is so cool while driving!

[@EleanorPeterson]

But if you've got time to look at it, you're not going fast enough. 😁

[@bomdiwo0072]

Nice car, nice lap! 👍🏻

[@user-fp4co8tq2r]

Классный видос! Без лишнего трепа!

[@nazimthomas196]

Driving skill is tremendous!

[@M3Pilot]

the ending of that lap was epic

[@bcs9972]

That Peugeot 205 was reaaally fast

[@hansdietrich83]

The Engineering on this car is absolutly top level, the design, bith inside and outside not so much

[@timu1330]

The inside is fine, the grill is the only part that went wrong.

[@k0zzu21]

@@timu1330 And the Lexus tail lights

[@w3rdnama1]

Super impressive.

[@emborni8574]

ULTIMATE DRIVING PERFORMANCE!

[@JiuJitsuM4]

The G8X series is really growing on me. It’s the carbon bucket seats that have garnished my everlasting attention and infatuation. I might get one. I love my 2020 M4 though.

[@Schleifendreier]

Can't wait to see what's Team Schirmer is going to do with the new M3/M4!!!

[@zizogaucho9035]

Misha you tool that lap insanely. I think you need to get an M3 now lol.

[@bpopa]

That car looks like it glides through corners. 😍

[@davidofford7002]

Yes! In Noway! Super. Yes. Yes. Yes. Great lap. Super friend! Reallt, nice wag to start the day. In the meantime . . .after a couple of days of racing on track . . . dear M.C and R.M. have a grear and fabulous day in this splendid really great weather.

[@maybe-ct9qu]

5:14 Gokart Spotted 🤣🤣

[@javierhernancastro]

Let us know if you come to Norway! Awesome lap

[@JDMLovers]

this camera angle best ❤❤

[@micheltebraake7915]

Nu het motorgeluid nog. Mooie ronde Misha.

[@JamesMonty]

That 205 driver 💥💥💥

[@jamestrost8412]

The grill is really growing on me the more I see it the more I’m fine with it.

[@danieldickerson4838]

The black color covers it up nicely for me.

[@Sophie-and-Ken]

That’s like saying “the more shit I eat the more I get used it and it doesn’t taste that bad any more”. It’s still shit.

[@mitchellsteindler]

Every time I see one I'm shocked at how hideous it is.

[@robertkempe2730]

@@Sophie-and-Ken Get over it - it's old new's now. You sound like some grumpy old man....

[@lollypop9580]

@@robertkempe2730 He has to go over it because it's old news ? He Can IMO Say the same in ten years if he still have this opinion. It's his thought, your thought Can be different, accept this and your life will be so much easier. 😉

[@leanderscott527]

What a lap, sheez. I have the m3 in manual. I'm truly blown away by the driving dynamics. Looks are subjective but, I love the new style. This is the best driving m3 made to date. E46, e90, f80 none can touch this car from factory. FACTS

[@chrps1707]

This car is looking hot 🔥, it is the best at everything, the bmw make the best all around cars in the world

[@ianmoone6562]

dafuq.. love the m3 but that 205 was applying heat lol pressuring everyone

[@martinchapman2168]

Good video

[@MacheteK]

Good comment

[@bigtommy5977]

Would really love to have a go in one of them

[@milanfriganovic9245]

You finally got my subscription because of mentioning Corrado on the track :-)

[@mgcharoudin]

This is why kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2W6l36Yjd-kidU

[@milanfriganovic9245]

@@mgcharoudin Now you got the bell thing as well :-)

[@afuckingturtle1489]

Just raced you in gran turismo in an m4 while watching this lol. Great driving, I crashed a few times 😅

[@portalracingcanarias6608]

buena maquina ese bmw

[@jalloor]

I’d love to get the driving impressions of the xdrive. I hope someone with that version can let you drive one on the Nurburgring for a great review. It would help in deciding which one to get.

[@maxbroke7054]

True

[@v4skunk739]

RWD for track, AWD for street.

[@Propulus]

@@v4skunk739 AWD in an M car before M5 .. blech.

[@dacmm]

@@v4skunk739 Above 300HP AWD for everything. What's the point of a 550HP engine in RWD when you can't floor it below 4th gear? AWD will walk it, be it on track or on the street.

[@memememine1]

It's a heavy car anways. Might as well get the x drive. You can make it rwd if you want. And any time it's raining or dusty you'll appreciate the xdrive.

[@fuckngreat8955]

Jesus christ that thing looks good! Just look at the thumbnail

[@TheTechnoaddict]

Looks like styling department and chassis department are from a whole different company😉👌

[@chewdoobautomotivedetailtm2883]

Gm Misha.🏁💣🏁❤️😎🎯💯

[@nctuned]

Took a while to catch that 205.

[@mgcharoudin]

That thing was definitely not stock

[@nctuned]

Thats for sure!

[@pin9r]

I‘d love to see a feature on mishas channel

[@dasgelbevomei4449]

Would love to see a Lap in a S2000.. And hear your thougts about it.✌️

[@TurboVisBits]

"old, antiquated, poor handling, underpowered" is what he'd say. Don't get me wrong, its a good car, its just not fast anymore.

[@TheMilenkata]

@@TurboVisBits Yesterday I saw a S2000 turbo in Greece. This thing looked fast and sounded that way. Anyway on track is different. :)

[@Albertmihaiful]

@@TurboVisBits yeah...he doesn't need power to have fun in a car or like a car...he had the sub 7up, the golf, his recent video with the 170hp lupo gti and so much more...he's an actual driver who knows how to take a corner and doesn't need huge power so im pretty sure he won't say that😂😂

[@TheChannel1978]

@@TurboVisBits User name says it all. Also, poor handling? You clearly have never driven an S2000 properly.

[@KiNG-tx9je]

Totaled the Model 3perf. So, we fina be test driving some Ms soon

[@FreshlySnipes]

Just placed an order for a 22 M3 in the states. I’m pumped. The front end is growing on me and I think this is my last opportunity to pick up a large engine manual transmission sports car.

[@Jm8126-5]

3.0 is not a large engine. 6.2 is. I just ordered my g80. I have a zl1 camaro with a 6.2. That's a big motor

[@FreshlySnipes]

@@Jm8126-5 it’s big for the future of gas engines.

[@xXxH8TERxXx]

A nice Quick lap 👌🏻 Someone sould do something about that sound because its not the nicest 😬

[@Lev_cs]

idk how I feel about the new g80/2 shift knob, everything else looks really amazing interior wise.

[@mkm6073]

Wow, put Cup 2Rs on it, this thing is a beast! Love the grill :P Also can't wait for the G87!!

[@davidsmall7676]

Awesome

[@Blafard666]

LMAO he made a full lap not knowing it was FWD ! Man i wish you have recorded that !

[@NJGaming82]

I love how whilst on full send Misha is just casually having a conversation about the speed of an mx5. If I only had half his talent. Need to Visit the apex hotel in 2022 and book some lessons.

[@tiutech3994]

Apex hotel?

[@mackie1001]

Prime candidate for the Michelin tyre monitor gizmo, check out Joe Achilles’ vid

[@matthiasona]

In black every car looks great. I dont like the design of the G80 but black looks neat

[@nunomoura3578]

BMW ✌

[@smb.4900]

Because of the gearbox, the car sounds a lot less sporty with that torque converter regulation sounds. Less frank and crisp shifts. One more reason to go for the 3 pedal version !

[@artemispierce8800]

He drives really good, I thought It was a video game for a min

[@Patr1ck2332]

Great video, that gearbox massively let’s down the car

[@tonypinnock6813]

Damn i would love to know the story behind that Peugeot GTI at the end.

[@imthelastone]

Good Morning Comrades!!!! Yes :)

[@Khoolhwhip]

Hey Mister Misha, would you ever consider adding an external mic to the bumper or trunk for intermittent exhaust sound when there is nothing to say or talk about you can always just plug it with exhaust audio plus it would just be hella cool

[@ID1visor]

Yeah. And tbh, this low pitched noise inside the cabin is fatiguing to listen to, at least for me. Exhaust is a lot more dynamic.

[@mgcharoudin]

Too much workflow. But could be something

[@thomasfrye313]

Need a pip on the petal play!!!!

[@badboymorales]

RIMAC ON NURBURGRINGGGGGG

[@renatodumaresq]

Misha! What tire pressure did you use? My BMW is with ps4s’s (19 inches- 225/40 in the front and 255/35 in the back) and I’m going to the track (in Brazil) next 10/17. Cheers! Love your channel!

[@Jetbill007]

Very nice, what settings were used on the car?

[@Zygersaf]

That Peugeot at the end lol, Misha when you talk about tyre pressures I always wonder just how much you should reduce it by. Say the manufacturer says its should be 2.0 bar t cold. And on the track it goes up to 3.0, when you come off teh track would you take them back down to 2.0 hot? or is that too much?

[@programmar6391]

Use nitrogen instead. It won't expand when getting hot.

[@TheLTcousins]

@@programmar6391 yes it will hello?

[@TheRealDr.Mabuse]

@@programmar6391 It's a myth. A made up selling point to extort more money from clueless byers.

[@LamboGallardo560]

Everything expands when it gets hot. Pure nitrogen just expands less. But normal air is already 70-ish% nitrogen so the difference is miniscule. This is just marketing taking a technical truth and wildly exaggerating the effects. In reality it's impractical to do, unless you plan to carry compressed nitrogen to the track with you

[@mgcharoudin]

Yes

[@eclipsez0r]

I saw that the new m4 failed the moose test. Thoughts? My opinion is that I don't drive like that without applying brakes

[@grapsorz]

let us know in advanced when your going to norway.. and you haver two options i gues. Northern light in the winter or GATEBIL in the summer. dont think you will get both.. and from where you have Gatebil (Rundskoen track) to where you will se the light is about 1500-2000km difference.

[@verde629]

Is the xdrive worth the price ? They’re marked up 10k more than rwd on avg

[@JB_lifestyle_cars]

So how do you compare it with the previous M3/4?

[@MT-eb2dx]

M2 - affordable dreamcar , more like affordable rich kids car ..

[@filip41301]

Misha what do you think. M3/M4 RWD or AWD in a purpose of using as daily in Swedish climate / having a fun car & occasional track sesh? Im thinking about AWD as a daily but i hope that the divivability dosnt suffer that much, is RWD much more fun?

[@smg7281]

It walks like drift🏞️

[@TheLambo123254]

nicee

[@matthiashuurman3520]

If this engine sound comes from the speakers, I would cut the wires first thing.

[@Daniel-ze6hn]

So I know now what my car (G82 M4 comp.) can do in theory. And I also know that actually gran Turismo 7 is really accurate in track design.

[@ngekseng]

wonder if u can squeeze 285s in the front

[@osiozzz]

what was that white 205, such a mouse.Even the M3 wouldn't be able to catch up without traffic :)

[@bigpat_4295]

Gps works as minimap