BMW M2 Vs 1M - Is the OG M2 the modern day 1M for half the price?

In this video you join me discussing the OG M2 and if it really is good enough to take on the legend that is the BMW 1M?

[@RotrexfezST]

I really enjoyed driving that,I loved the manual box and with a Coolerworx shifter but the short variant it would be truly epic. It had a good amount of pace for a stock car too. Really liked it

[@FutureGameLight]

i have an og m2 dct in long beach blue and with around 25k in mods and its a total blast. i wanted it to be a nice clubport/track car i could also take to the mountains and blast some porsche 911´s on the autobahn and let me say i couldnt be more happy with the outcome. currently running big turbo 625hp and fbo. eventuri intake, m performance exhaust and hjs 200 cell downpipe and it a complete transformation. the suspension is a kw v3 with millway adapters and i have done pretty big aero, breaks and seats. the car makes so much more fun than the m4 comp idrove a while and handle so much better than a fully built e92 m3 i ran on the track. on the comparisson to the m240i i can only agree, all he time i hear a m240i is the same or that they are better even for mods... well sry but its not the case: 1. driving feel, steering is a hole oter leaque because of the LSD, DCT and the axle hich are straight from the m4 and are bolted directly to the chassi. 2. power: i can run 600hp on the track without a worry and there are many 750 to 800hp builts for the n55 m2 now. i dont see why i should opt for an m240i with all the downsides to run the same power in the end (no lsd, smaller track width, no dry sump oil pump, auto instead of dct, steering feel, worse axles) and btw anything in the realm above 650hp make any of these cars undrivable on full throttle anyways. for the m2 500 to 600hp is the sweet spot imo and for the m240i just do a stage 2 or your open diff cant handle it.

[@stoneautomotive]

Sounds like you have a properly sorted M2 😎

[@andrewcouper770]

Had a 1M for two years, was great fun on proper roads but was hard work in slow moving traffic. 1st gear for example was very difficult to come off the clutch without quite an aggressive thud sensation. Engine was powerful but old school delivery, gave a second lease of life at around 3000rpm as the second turbo got involved. As long as its sub 60k miles, BMW still warranty them for ~£500/year as long as its come through BMW approved used and you service with them, which is pretty cheap btw because its not an 'actual M car'. M2 is a lot more to service through BMW despite still having an 'n' designated engine. Also found it very hard to sell the 1M at a decent price - there are usually quite a lot on the market at once. The very high price, low mileage ones sit for a very long time. Bought mine for £47k in 2016 and sold for £38k in 2018. Bought with 10k on clock, sold with around 22k. Sold via Collecting Cars when it was quite a new entity, was a very good experience but was a very low volume website at that point. No idea what its like now its much bigger. Considering an M2 as something much cheaper you don't really need to worry about in the same way, its either that or a Yaris Gr as a fun car for me . M car prices are going to get pounded by the UK cost of living crisis so would imagine we see them selling in the teens in the not too distant future.

[@stoneautomotive]

Really enjoyed driving the Yaris GR, really fun car to chuck around on the British back roads 😎 Agree, M-car prices will continue to drop, e92 M3’s are taking a pounding 😅

[@floydpepper8289]

I've always thought the 1M is like a modern E30 M3 and the M2 is like a modern E46 M3 to be honest.

[@stoneautomotive]

That’s fair enough 👍 the e30 and 1M certainly have the exclusive coolness about them that’s for sure 😎

[@ishannage248]

With the budget for an M2C, Id much rather buy an OG M2 and a set of G8X comp seats and a nice set of wheels/tires & springs.

[@stoneautomotive]

Many have followed this path as you mention 😎

[@roymoorman5990]

What is funny is that most people tend to think that the HK audio is the top of the line audio system. I was one of them , until I read about the individual sound option. I can tell you, the individual / enhanced premium is really crisp and well balanced. The DSP surround option is also much better than the Logic7 one.

[@stoneautomotive]

I’ve still yet to have heard an individual audio spec car in person but as you mention many others have confirmed over the years it’s fantastic 👍 I guess what I should have said is make sure you get at least HK, having heard base spec audio it’s awful!

[@samcourt6228]

As much as I love the OG M2, I’m not sure these days that you’d cross shop an OG and a 1M given the disparity in values. The 1M is the OG turbocharged, small M car. The fact that it was a skunkworks special makes it that bit cooler. BMW manuals do seem to vary a lot; the one in our my wife’s old 125i was pretty good after removing the CDV, changing the white shifter bush and changing the gearbox oil. It was no S2000 gearshift but was pretty good. I prefer the OG to the Comp; I hate the Comp wheels, don’t like the udder rear box or the noise it makes. It does have nicer seats though and a much better selection of colours.

[@stoneautomotive]

If you were gifted the opportunity for one it would be the 1M on value and how unique it is that’s for sure 😅 The M2 was the better drivers car for me “personally” I just don’t understand after all these years how BMW who keep supplying manuals for the purists haven’t fixed the gear stick feel 🤷‍♂️ Yep with you on that, the M2 OG would be my choice mainly for the sound alone!

[@samcourt6228]

@@stoneautomotive BMW manual shifts have been hit and miss for as long as I can remember. If there is a DCT option, it’d be my choice personally. The 1M is very tunable should you be that way inclined. There is a lot of potential in the N54. I know someone who 1M is £450 BHP. That’s got to be a riot….although the N54 can also be a royal pain in the arse, as I’ve found out. It’s a much angrier, grumpy sounding engine than the N55. The BMW Performance seats are a must in the 1M too.

[@Kkkk-ll3ed]

Id take the M2 anyday

[@martinocorbelli3042]

Refurbed silver wheels look good 👍

[@leewindsor2246]

Og m2 with manual which I own great

[@driventogaming2879]

Bang on review..owned both cars 👍

[@AlexGray]

And what is your opinion, 1M worth the extra price or no?

[@driventogaming2879]

@@AlexGray the m2 is the better daily but the 1m is the better car…. Worth double the price maybe as it holds its value better, all depends if you are going to daily it I suppose?

[@AlexGray]

@@driventogaming2879Yes I’d be looking to buy a higher mileage one to daily, I have a 200,000 mile e46 m3 i daily and time to get something else, but I just don’t like the M2 anywhere near as much as the 1M. But of course I haven’t driven either one. I love how special the 1M is and the amount of people that say the driving dynamics are just so impressive but hard to justify with how much cheaper the M2 is.

[@driventogaming2879]

@@AlexGray I think you would like the m2 tbh.. it probably would suit you as you are coming from a similar size car. It’s a great car really and a better daily than the 1m. It’s just the 1m is so special and the steering has a way better feel like a go kart or something. The m2 is the better deal though and it’s special too

[@filipjohansson6644]

The dash on the LCI is NOT digital. Still analog needles just backlit

[@stoneautomotive]

You all know what I meant 😅

[@MonssterHD]

if only i could afford an m2. Has been my dream car for a while now. Cost of living crisis ey

[@stoneautomotive]

Hitting us all mate, crazy how much everything is going up!

[@arthurtay8788]

1M still rules

[@stoneautomotive]

No denying the 1M is a cool car 😎

[@DjNikGnashers]

Genuinely think the 1M is a fugly, cheap interior, parts bin special, which only commands such a high used price simply because it's rare. The OG M2 is a much better car in every way, and the M2C is still cheaper than a used 1M and is a MUCH better car in every way.

[@stoneautomotive]

I do genuinely love the look of the 1M but agree it lacks in many areas especially when you compare it to the M2C as you mention

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@stoneautomotive If the used prices were around the 25-30 k mark, I think it would make sense, and be 'worth it'. But 60 k is ridiculous, and at that price there are some very special cars available !!

[@kimchee411]

@@DjNikGnashers What would you have over an M2C for 60k? I agree about the 1M. It feels like a very well done tuner car, which is part of its charm. The steering is miles better and it's more fun because of the midrange torque punch, but the OG M2 shares the same ethos in a more refined way. I would love a 1M as a third car, but chose the M2 as a daily.

[@DjNikGnashers]

@@kimchee411 Yes totally get the steering bit, as it is one of the last Hydraulic racks BMW made, and even the best M cars which came after it do not have the same steering feel. But, that is the same as every other car these days, and while it would be better to have Hydraulic racks than electric, it isn't a game changer for me. If practicality was important, then I'm sure a 340i touring would be perfect and in budget. If only 2 seats are needed maybe a Supra ? None BMW opens up a lot of options for 60k, Lotus, Porsche, Alpine A110, it depends what you require from a car, but absolutely dozens of faster, better handling, more luxurious, newer, lower mileage, etc.

[@kierantilley2590]

The seats in the M2 really let it down on the non competition, such bog standard seats, no different than the 2 series 😢

[@stoneautomotive]

Yep, same with the 1M ☹️

[@mikesphoenix_e46m3]

both nice cars but im afraid im reminded yet again it just doesnt cut it like the older generations like e46/e36 etc

[@stoneautomotive]

Sadly so.. I took the e92 M3 out this morning for a breakfast run and the howl of the V8 screaming to 8,500rpm was just bliss 😎

[@mikesphoenix_e46m3]

@@stoneautomotive never gets boring does it mate plus you get to hear it everyday with being your daily 😁👌

[@psgp298]

1M owner here----i drove a few different F87 M2s on the street and track. My favourite M2 is the N55 OG M2. The M2s are SO detached and distant compared to the 1M. the 1M is a very vivid, urgent driving machine. The M2 is a good driving machine but not nearly as exciting or engaging in any way. So NO the M2 is not a substitute for a 1M-----but what is!?

[@stoneautomotive]

Opinions will always differ, if the 1M had also shared the S65 and DCT from the e92 M3 it would have been the holy grail of M cars for me 👍

[@psgp298]

@@stoneautomotive no thanks! have driven a few S65-engined cars and a few DCT cars-----and although i love the sound of the S65, i don't love the lack of urgency. Don't care at all for any DCTs. The N54 mated to a manual and a stiff, wide chassis is the recipe for madness! :)

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

​@@psgp2981M was never a full M car,also it's look are too feminine and hasn't aged well The F87 will go down as a classic like the E46

[@psgp298]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial hahahahahahahahahah you're basically alone in that opinion. the 1M looked way more angry than the F87 M2 which looks like a soft mess. It's always funny when M2 owners are drooling all over my 1M. M2s are a dime a dozen. I've driven several, and they bored me.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

@@psgp298 In my country the only people who drive E87 chassis are 20yo girls and old ladies You're really trying to say the 1M front looks angry It's a bright eyed smiley face for gods sake

[@serkaneski9200]

In any case better than the ugly G87 and piggy G82

[@swansmeister]

Here within the first hour bebeeeeeeee. Stoney when will you be at the ring my man? I'm there in July and August both 4 days.

[@stoneautomotive]

We are looking to be out in July 😬😬😬 It’s gonna be a very last minute booking as really want to time it well with the weather! Gonna be in the e92 so not sure how happy the brakes will be 🥴

[@swansmeister]

@@stoneautomotive gonna be there from 20th to 23rd july, same about the breaks altho I upgraded them to mov-it 380m discs with ferodo ds3000 pads now, lets see how they hold,should be ok.

[@swansmeister]

@@stoneautomotive If you happen to be there on the same dates and fancy a meet or a ride on the ring together just send me on yt, no obligations ofc and drive safe!

[@stoneautomotive]

@@swansmeister I’ll be posting it up on Instagram as soon as I know dates, I’m trying to tie it in with weather & a car I’m aiming to feature out there but if it’s the same time pop over and say hi 😎

[@swansmeister]

@@stoneautomotive I don't have any social media brother but it's ok, who knows we might run in to eachother.