2022 BMW M240i vs 2018 BMW M2 // Will The Real M Car Please Stand Up

[@palefaced1]

"This is a manual, which makes me more handsome and a superior car enthusiast." Well said Thomas, well said.

[@VVWP]

either directly or sarcastically well said

[@NeXuS858]

C O P E 😆 O P E 😆

[@andrewha8267]

@@NeXuS858 mumps

[@mohayc8877]

Cap, manual makes you sweat balls and look ugly

[@strft]

The old one is so much better looking

[@n.naovaratpong2700]

BMW M2 is as near perfect as it could be, really happy to see that Thomas bought one

[@alexnutcasio936]

Near perfect ? Doesn’t seem so in this case. The 240i beat it in every metric, including price. M240i for the win.

[@hercules1494]

@@alexnutcasio936 manual and wayyy better looking

[@daarupappe]

@@alexnutcasio936 perfectly describes the difference between a brochure nerd and an actual enthusiast. The stats are just part of the car itself, there are far many more aspects to be considered such as fun, feel, quality, looks etc. If stats were the only consideration then someone might even argue that a soccer mom crossover is sportier and better than a 60s sports car because a crossover might have a better 0-60. The numbers are just half the story.

[@justinmaccreery2490]

@@alexnutcasio936 But, and it's a big but to me, no manual available

[@emmanuelperrina6105]

@@alexnutcasio936 lmao the m2 is already too heavy, let alone the 240i

[@viktorvekony8638]

One more thing I like more in the 2018 M2 is the headlights. I personally always loved the double round headlights, it always made look BMWs apart from the other German competitors. On the BMW M240i the headlights to me look too "Audi". Anyways. Thank you guys for the content, I really enjoy your shows! Congrats for the M2! Drive safe!

[@BigfootUnibrowMan]

I definitely agree! I don't necessarily dislike the new look, but didn't BMW start the "Halo" daytime running light look? Idk why they would move away from it. The look is so synonymous with the brand now it seems. It would be like Mustang ditching their iconic tail lights.

[@hotdognobun]

Agree

[@Person-cv9dj]

I like the old version more period. The new one just looks so ugly way worse than the 440i in my opinion

[@hotdognobun]

@@Person-cv9dj Agree again

[@RdcsVtec]

exactly.... everybody talks about the rear, but the rear, at least on video and photos is not offensive to me, whilst the front!? those headlights with a single halo and the triangular air intakes in the bottom of the spoiler, ruin it for me. I think they made the right decision to make the 2 series apart from the 1 series but the execution didn't succeed. It should have been a little bit less expensive, less high-end materials to support that, obviously, a little lighter if that was even possible when using that platform from models above the 2 series and despite the fact that they didn't use the huge kidneys, the rest looks a bit like the Chris Bangle designs from a 15/20 years back. Tooo fat and geometrical! Bottom line, it's good but I would still rather have the previous gen. Cause let's face it... infotainment? materials? those only count on a daily car, they are less relevant for a second and sports car. At least this is what people usually tend to in Europe. Cheers everybody.

[@AlbertSpice]

The M2 is not only about speed. Its about the way it drives. Love the new car Thomas

[@SaintMecha]

This is what the FnF generation and young gamers(who don't even drive irl) don't understand. Not everything about "speed" and useless 0~60 numbers. It's about how the car handles and driving feedback.

[@n.naovaratpong2700]

@@SaintMecha I couldn’t agree more, if they want something fast just get on the rollercoaster lmao

[@noneyabizz8337]

@@SaintMecha same for every dodge owner. Raw numbers, real world be damned.

[@kadenw968]

It’s amazing, I’d take that over any other new M car

[@jorgnyoa3561]

They say that the gt86 is slow aswell. But i have never driven a better handeling car then it

[@ChrisN06999]

"all I needed this to be was a not ugly 4 series because they've decimated that car in my eyes." I felt that.

[@llaughridge]

So... they reduced the 4-series by 10%?

[@Kronos0999]

So progressive of BMW to hire blind designers to design their new cars

[@revaholic]

Honestly it sounded like James was holding back tears saying that

[@K03sport]

@@Kronos0999...did Chris Bangle start the process in the early 2000s? Is BMW evolving his designs or are they trying to distance themselves from that era? Also, what is BMW's five year/10 plan for design? As companies move toward EVs, they need to blend current designs with future designs to keep customers interested and set a design presidence...

[@misterdragzon]

Can confirm. Didn’t even consider the M440 when shopping for the M340i.

[@banzai2438]

I bought 2022 M240i xDrive in November 2021 and I can attest that not only I can drive it all year but it is also a beast in sports plus mode and a very comfortable cruiser in the comfort mode. If you are on a fence about M240i vs M2 and need AWD then don’t sweat it, get M240i, you will not regret it. This car puts a smile on my face every time I drive it.

[@lucamartini7442]

im deciding between getting the 230i rwd or the 240 awd, i love to drift when its rainy, and im not really used to drifting awd. Do you think its easy to drift it in normal cornes when the road is wet with the rw bias? thanks in advance!

[@banzai2438]

You can drift it some but you would be better off with a lighter rwd 230i if that is your passion as long as you don’t mind giving up the horsepower and all year around use. In my case I did want awd (we get a lot of snow in Wisconsin) and a part time car was not an option for me.

[@lucamartini7442]

@@banzai2438 thanks for answering so quickly! Ill propably have to get the 240i cause ill have to drive it in snowy condotions aswell. As long as its driftable to some degree, im fine :) the 230i would also almost cost me the same amount of money so 240i it is I guess 👍🏼😅

[@antongranholm9508]

@@lucamartini7442 m240i paired with xdelete would be optimal then

[@Sam-jh7nb]

What’s the noise level on the highway? Can I listen to music and hold a conversation without raising my voice? Looking to get one but can’t find any to test drive.

[@VinayKapoor]

Congratulations on the new Ride Thomas 🎉🚗 it's not always about the power and the top speed it's more about how that car makes you feel 🔥

[@olliewells7437]

Tbf it will depreciate better being an m car as well

[@vagcentral2252]

Pay 1200$ extra for a downpipe+93 tune and it makes 460hp 460tq so if he ever gets bored there are options.

[@AK47s4EveryOne]

a few bolt on parts and a tune and good warm day and the M2 will wreck it in everything

[@Verknechter]

@@AK47s4EveryOne Maybe on the Track. The B58 in the M240 responds much better to just bolt ons than the N55. To outperform the B58 you have to get the S55 in the M2 Comp if you compare tuned cars.

[@iTxip]

@@olliewells7437 also being a much better looking car

[@BlargMyShnoople]

Congrats on the M2, such a damn good car!

[@lhd4278]

Today I learned that God blarg is a fellow car enthusiast. Nice

[@ezioahmet4192]

Blarg??? Didn't expect to see you here

[@STR1XDLB]

It doesnt even have a proper M engine wtf it s not good at all.If it was the m2 comp instead well yes you re right

[@Beer_Dad1975]

I'd say the major ingredients a used BMW M car is always missing is reliability and cost of ownership. Still a nice car though, as long as you have the budget and time to maintain it. The way he treats it in this video is, I hope, not the way he always drives it or it won't last a year.

[@gianni_schicchi]

@@Beer_Dad1975 Luckily the N55 OG M2 is pretty solid and devoid of major issues so far in its lifecycle. That being said, I agree with the anxiety of owning an M used, which is why buying new with their cheap extended 5 year warranty is an attractive deal for new over used.

[@mattlau]

The F87 M2 is seriously one of the best looking cars BMW made in recent history. I can’t find an angle that doesn’t look good. I really hope I can have one of these in my parking stalls one day! Thomas made such a good choice

[@BestOfTate23]

If you're a 16 yr old girl into old cars i guess

[@censorshipBS]

That just about sums it up its more about what it looks like rather than the drive. A bit like the rest of tbe world today ❤

[@kevinp4103]

"I think I bought the right car, for my purposes anyways". Probably the best thing I have heard on a car review in a long time. There will always be faster, but when a car makes you smile and brings a joy back back to driving, that is the car to own, no matter what to is. Congrats on the amazing car! - Kevin M2C manual Alpine White

[@niewissen9912]

I've always said that also. Don't need to be the fastest. Just need to make you happy and smile. Yes that is the best line I've heard to and completely agree. We all look for something paticular In cars. Also, M2C manual, beautiful. Great choice! 👌. Niewissen, e46 zhp (2005), e90 m3, e60 m5 (possibly sold), e70 x5 msport tuned. Not sure what to replace the m5 with but now your comment has me thinking.....a M2 of any sort be nice lol

[@kevinp4103]

@@niewissen9912 Very nice nie, long live the BMW fan boys and girls! In the winter I roll with a 08 535ix wagon, also manual of course. Thinking of selling though due to the craziness in the market.

[@chriserz94]

​@@kevinp4103 I bought a 2008 535XiT/6MT M-sport ,Titanium silver over Schwartz last year for a christmas present to myself, 1 of 3 in North America in it's spec. It would be hard for me to replace it with anything else.It's basically a modern german equivalent version of a Autech Stagea 260RS.

[@kevinp4103]

@@chriserz94 Holy smokes, you have a really fantastic car! That is some Christmas presents! Thanks for the heads up about the Nissan, I did not know they existed as I just started getting into the wagon fandom.

[@billymania11]

Yeah the OG M2 will be an item in the years to come. It looks just the way a special project car should look, coming from the M division. I mean it has M4 suspension under the body, it has the DCT from the M5 and has a track spec N55 engine with the trick oiling system from the S55. Plus, it also has something most car do not, a glorious howl from the quad pipes.

[@Devil_Dog_Ultra]

the M2 is garbage. If you want to own the slowest M car go ahead and be my geust buy it. The M240 also comes in diesel which is far superior to the gaser. As for the M2 being special, you are completely wrong. The 1M is the special car and will go up in price the M2 will cotinue to be a joke.

[@billymania11]

Your manner is a little crude and your opinion is a bit suspect but be that as it may. My only real thought on your comment is that…..you made your comment.

[@alecbollinger7748]

@@Devil_Dog_Ultra eh

[@JF-ns5zs]

@@Devil_Dog_Ultra E30 M3 is the slowest but carry on

[@jim8462]

@@Devil_Dog_Ultra considering the m2 is faster than the 1m think your talking rubbish.

[@mineralgrey8332]

Coming back after a whole year, and I gotta say, I have changed my mind more and more. The new M240i is actually gorgeous in person. I’ve only seen 1 or 2 in my entire year. So they are pretty rare sight to see. And they look agressive and muscular AF

[@theFORZA66]

The old m2 looks significantly better, but at the same time the old m2 is easily one of bmws most elegant yet aggresive, timeless designs of all time. However, that being said, i must agree that the new m240i looks very good. People overblow how bad it looks. Although tbh i think the m240i looks significantly better than the new m2

[@MiccoPower]

just reading this, gives me such happiness, i am one of of those few you have seen on the road, white BMW M240IX and it is everything you dream of and then some, its such a great car for MSRP 54k, an absolute steal

[@mineralgrey8332]

@@theFORZA66 it looks and is significantly better for its price point

[@mineralgrey8332]

@@MiccoPower it’s going in my list of the greatest cars BMW has made prize point wise, for that much performance and tuning potential? It’s definitely a steal

[@SROSHMAN]

Taking a step back from the beloved 2 series, let’s take a moment to appreciate the production quality and cinematography that really makes TH stand out. Well done!

[@johnoakes34]

That 2018 M2 is seriously one of the best looking cars at ANY angle! Congrats Thomas 👏 I'm totally jelly

[@carbide8582]

I have a 23 M240i and I absolutely love it. A few people who have been able to dyno these cars have said they got around 380 to the wheels so they severely undersold this car.

[@sholokov]

That's a very BMW thing. Their cars always produce more than advertised.

[@esmaeslime2298]

I saw a video that shows more, 408 to the wheels

[@callumbackhouse4769]

you staged it yet?

[@carbide8582]

@callumbackhouse4769 not yet. I'm just going to go with JB4, Dinan exhaust & intake and maybe a downpipe in the spring.

[@CrazySpartan150]

I'm so glad Thomas got an M2, he's one of the people who truly deserve a car like that. Good for you man, so happy for you.

[@loganmoy5093]

Why does he truly deserve it? Because he really liked the car and because he has a KZbin channel? I really want a brand new rs3..do I deserve to get it? I'm just breaking your balls..

[@mckou1547]

In ten years: 1.) the M cars will have held their value 2.) the 2018 gauges will be held in much higher regard in terms of aesthetic design. 3.) The manual transmission will be more highly sought after. 4.) the blue color will be more desirable then the "purple" of the non-m car. Good purchase Thomas.

[@codskilclanchannel6420]

M240 is technically “m”

[@ssmith3070]

​@@codskilclanchannel6420 Yeah but it does have the rear lights of a Fiat Tipo and the front of a Wish Miata... I don't know how they manage it but BMW has been consistently churning out increasingly uglier cars than their previous generation counterparts.

[@747simmer4]

@@ssmith3070 previous generations all cars looked a like especially with those double circle DRLs but now every car looks different in their own bad looking way

[@ssmith3070]

@@747simmer4 Yeah...I guess this is still an improvement over the M3 but damn if it isn't bland.

[@superdestrier9160]

In ten years: Thomas won't own this car.

[@coreymegran6332]

I think this is the first time we’ve ever seen James’s drifting face. Looks sorta like his girlfriend just asked him why he can’t come to date night. You guys are the absolute greatest reviewers on this platform. All the accolades to both of you, and the whole team behind.

[@devongee1776]

DAMN. Didn't expect that initial race to be that much of a gap session.

[@amjrpain919]

X-drive does that

[@K03sport]

...but, at the end of the day, which one would you rather be in? I don't live my life one 1/4 mile at a time, so I would prefer the car that has better feel and sense of being. If you need AWD (xDrive), then at least you know your car is fast, but does it reward the driver or does it feel numb....

[@amjrpain919]

@@K03sport 💯👀👋😎 Different drivers, Different rewards... As long as it isn't self driving!

[@Domepeezy]

@@K03sport I’d rather be in the XDrive

[@shabanajannik2600]

@@K03sport you don't live your live by the 1/4 day but u live sliding it doing Donuts and driving around? Huh? The m2 feels just like m240i when driving around normal, to really feel the difference you need to push it hard and around corners

[@saurabsaran7027]

There should be a comparison between James’s S4 and Thomas’s M2 it would be crazy to see that video

[@the-boring-car-guy]

Would love to see that but I think they're too different to make a real comparison video about

[@arjnarersn01]

@@the-boring-car-guy agreed. Two different types of people buying an M2 or S4

[@n.naovaratpong2700]

They did compare Jame’s Miata and Thomas’s E46 M3 before and even Type R and Mustang, so hopefully not out of the realm of possibility cus I really wanna see it.

[@sandeshkc4567]

@@the-boring-car-guy Extra Throttle house is there for a reason.

[@arjnarersn01]

@@n.naovaratpong2700 both rwd, manual sports cars.

[@beaches2mountains230]

You cannot beat the feeling of a rear wheel drive/front engine setup!! Love awd too but the balance of a rwd/front engine car just rotates so well! That engine note is absolutely divine!

[@spiraling69]

I agree. And I recently read some good news from BMW. Starting in 2023, the 240i will have a rear wheel option! that drops the cars weight by 200lbs!

[@BrandoDrum]

I think we are kinda entering an era where drag races and track times mean nothing for how fun a car is. I hate saying that because I always complain about how little power a miata and brz have...but honestly I think once your car goes under 5 seconds to 60 the rest doesn't matter besides its fast enough and the only real factor from there is feel. I'd rather drive a 5 second fun car than a sub 3 second hypercar that just digitizes the experience

[@derbonuspool1274]

Feel the same way, am quiet annoyed at the whole HP War and the "My car needs to go 0-60 in under 2 seconds crap"

[@zXPeterz14]

I remember reading an article that claimed the perfect power level for enjoyment on public roads would be between 300 and 400 hp. I think thats probably true aslong as the car isn’t massively heavy

[@jeffthedream]

@@zXPeterz14 agreed. Way more fun to drive a "slow" analog car at 9/10ths than some 700hp at 4/10ths, half throttle, and is completely digital and techy

[@sameerpandya1947]

100% agree. Once the car is quick, focus on making it lively.

[@colinpastuch]

2019+ Miata ND2 is not slow at all, it's perfect.

[@Yazmalek98]

The M2 is truly one of the best cars I’ve ever driven by far, I’ve already set my goals to buy one as my next car

[@morsik9467]

Did you buy it?

[@slothymango]

​@@morsik9467 I bought mine

[@sullygtx9350]

X-delete allows you to switch to full rear wheel drive. If given the change between any BMW with an X-drive option, I'll choose it every time over the RWD version.

[@FutureGameLight]

but the m240i has no LSD so you will be slower in every turn and cant get the power down, when you tune it. the x delete makes pretty much everythings worse. same weight, slower cornering and not traction. just get a M with a proper diff instead.

[@sullygtx9350]

@@FutureGameLightI'm referring to the utility of an AWD system. If given the option between two nearly identical cars with the only difference being x-drive, I'll take awd every time. You get the best of both worlds at the expense of some added weight. In my opinion, the extra utility of having awd makes up for the extra weight.

[@M340B58]

@@FutureGameLight the M340 has a rear M sport diff but M240 doesnt?

[@M340B58]

@@u07t17 M sport, not the same diff as the full M cars

[@Henderson10102]

I mean... I was excited to see that Thomas just bought himself an M2, but then he made a shout-out to Alex from Car Throttle and I lost my mind! These are my two favourite car channels... any chance you could figure out a collab? 😁

[@kadenw968]

Throttle house is better

[@starshipteddy9871]

@@kadenw968 TH is much, much, much better.

[@lucahoganyt4435]

@@kadenw968 They're both great but in my opinion Car Throttle is more entertaining

[@saraanshjha8262]

They have collaborated in an old video I think so. Alex was a part of one of their intro bits but I am not fully sure

[@zaker6257]

That'd be dope

[@lucassproesser2191]

Holy crap... That cinematic sequence in the warehouse was just beautiful. Congrats on the new car, Thomas! And thanks for another great video.

[@87Beamr]

Thomas’s energy when he is talking about his car and what he is going to do to it is genuine car guy moves. The first thing you do is work out the build list in your head, good times!

[@sanjsharma9903]

The M2 is a future classic definitely the right choice

[@stevem2323]

It's already is.

[@lchambee]

Agreed. Same as the M140i. If you have one of either, keep it!

[@ianthayer8688]

The M2 comp is a classic not this M2 with the N55 motor...

[@codskilclanchannel6420]

@@ianthayer8688 that’s why I got the 240

[@Yazmalek98]

@@ianthayer8688 there’s nothing wrong with the N55 it’s still a quick engine, and it sounds a lot better than the S55

[@PukingPanda]

I think cars have hit a point where they’re all fast and they’re hitting a point where they’re all competing over specs no normal person will attempt on the road. So all the other bits and bobs like technology, comfort + fun are a HUGE factor for me now.

[@JurisKankalis]

There is a huge amount of depth you are completely missing out on. Starting from mentality of the people who build the cars (Japan/Germany/US/UK/Italy etc), to history of the companies and what they represent and what they strive for in the future, to the way each car feels when you actually sit (and then drive) in it - taking into consideration other points I just said - and ending with such "trivialities" as to how much a certain company can achieve based on their budget, (perceived) level of performance and quality, reliability, etc., etc., etc. What you are saying is basically - if there are ten outwardly equal types of bread at the grocery store, I'll take the one which has the packaging paper decorated with gold lines, instead of silver circles. Based on that, a more viable option might be a train or a bus - or start to gather knowledge and understanding of what you want to drive... Unless it's just a device which happens to be on wheels for you, but then be prepared not to end up in a satisfactory relation with that "device".

[@PukingPanda]

@@JurisKankalis you’re talking like a car enthusiast. I am your average consumer. I have no badge loyalties (except Toyota and their history of tough cars) and only slight knowledge of the history of certain cars. When I’m looking at cars - if they’re all similar specs, you can be sure as hell I’m going to buy the car with the most bits and bobs. I chose a Hyundai over a Toyota purely because Toyota tech is crap compared to other cars of similar value.

[@ridexdrive]

@@PukingPanda you make a good point. I think the automotive industry and most that cover cars tend to focus so much on going fast and doing donuts. When in reality, the vast majority of people that buy cars don't care about any of that stuff. They want something reliable with good tech.

[@nikolasbergeron9989]

A think you make a very good point that most people don't need the best performing car. All they need is a car that get them from point a to b. However, there is many people out there that want to have fun in a car and even have a form of connection to it. That's why they say cars are "babies". A lot of people care for them like that. That's who these cars are made for.

[@ridexdrive]

@@nikolasbergeron9989 yeah. I agree with you! Especially when it comes to anything from BMW with an M in the name. I’ve driven the M2 Comp and it’s definitely the purest M car in the lineup. I just thought it was refreshing to see a normal comment from a typical car buyer. Cheers!

[@kevincollins3298]

2018 M2 owner here. I ordered mine with the MP exhaust with the little bluetooth controller. Definitely scares the neighbors worth it. Skip the MP steering wheel unless you like thumb cramps. Mine shipped with the Continentals. Swapped over to the Michelin PS4S after two years and it was transformative to say the least. I wish I had driven it straight to the tire store from the dealer at delivery. Congrats on the M2. Identical spec to mine. Looks like you lucked out and landed one without a sunroof as well.

[@AnitaHanjaaab]

I would still take that M2 over any other BMW currently on the market. They hold their value so well.

[@texasstreetkings537]

I’d take a m4 or m5 over it

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@texasstreetkings537 Must like driving in a straight line... Might as well get a tesla...

[@gamersquadlifestyle]

Yep specially Thomas M2 with the N55 engine

[@zn-n]

@@shrayesraman5192 bro what are you talking about LOL, m4 and 5 are more handling oriented than the m2

[@shrayesraman5192]

@@zn-n what u been smoking? In what world can the m4 a luxury grand tourer and the m5 a luxury sedan compete with the m2? A small light weight coupe? Honestly don't even understand the appeal of the m4...

[@xerexon2k]

The M2 is an absolute beauty compared with the new 2 series. As a BMW owner I demand to fire the current design team completely.

[@wh33lhousediecast]

As a BMW owner, I second that notion as well #F36

[@LvivFan]

5 series 2022 is very beautiful though, i think m5 cs is the most beautiful sedan right now

[@E9X330]

@@LvivFan too bad it has mk 7.5 golf headlights

[@dilididli2274]

I've never been a fan of the BMW past 2010 but now they are just plain ugly. They used to be so classy.

[@Caffeinated-DaVinci]

Totally agree. Can't afford a BMW but I absolutely love(d) the brand. The only decent looking car they've put out in the past 3 years has been the M5 CS. The M3 and M4 would be fine without that hideous grille. Even the new M2 looks god awful. It looks like they styled it after a Mustang of all things.

[@j.davideverhart1964]

Loved this video. You guys helped me decide to trade in my S4 manual for an M2 Comp, so awesome to see Thomas got one too (minus the comp). Sad though about the backseat on the new 2, as it was one of the clinchers as the M2 is actually way more adult room than my 2015 S4. Probably means I'm sticking with my f87 for quite a while

[@macoste1508]

With those cinematic shoots it makes you guys the Top Gear of KZbin, hands down

[@denissamoylov3519]

Just wow. You guys are killing it! Makes me happy to witness the progress you've made: from narration and video quality, to choice of cars and staging. Best car geek channel on YT for sure.

[@Mr_Vishal...]

You guys have no idea how much I love this channel and addicted to it. The way you guys communicate with us and cars make me feel like you are my brothers even though I am from India and you guys are from Canada and US. I dont think I have ever watched a better car channel than this ever. Love you guys. And I know its late but congratulations on you new M2. I wish you guys could buy more are more exciting cars in the future. Also one of the best part of TH is its intro. You never fail in it. Each video makes me happier. A Big FAN of Throttle House.

[@ilimit]

BMW straight 6s gets more powerful with every generation. Doesn’t even the X3 m40 push 4.5 seconds to 60? I still prefer the looks of the older 2 series. 8:36 mark had me lmao. 🤣 This was a phenomenal episode, TH team.

[@madpistol]

BMW's B58 is a straight-up gem of a motor. Every car they put it in becomes a proverbial monster. Yet somehow BMW tuned it to be docile when not driven hard, as well. It's a magical combination of refinement and excitement.

[@gianni_schicchi]

They're getting more powerful but at the cost of slight turbo lag. Comparing my N55 m135i with tune vs my 444HP S55 M2CS, the latter doesn't hit hard torque until about 1k RPM higher. The N55 has nearly instant torque in any rev, the M2 needs to be above 3k, though it does have a higher red line. Not a bad compromise for over 100HP/100ft/lb+ more without a warranty voiding tune though IMO.

[@_IMNNO]

Lol that Windows XP error

[@Jack_S_]

I've given up on the idea of trying to have the fastest car, there is always a faster car. So, it's about enjoying what you're driving. Performance numbers are part of that equation, but not the only thing. I remember driving the 2020 M235i and didn't think it would ever be mistaken for a rear wheel drive based, though, and while I can't speak to the new M240i, I'm not sure it really would feel RWD when pushed.

[@idokwatcher2062]

Turner or some company like that has software for x-drive cars where BMW prevents "drift mode", to re-enable the feature and make it RWD when you want. I'm sure the new M240i will qualify for that.

[@dougrobinson8602]

I agree wholeheartedly. If you want numbers, buy a Tesla Plaid and call it good. Insane acceleration, but a sterile driving experience.

[@WallabyWinters]

@@idokwatcher2062 it's called Dyno mode and you can enable it through a hidden car menu anyways :P

[@F117DJS]

This YoutTube show is fantastic, their camaraderie feels so entertaining and genuine, the same kind feels you get from watching the old Top Gear show with Jeremy, Richard, & James. I hope it lasts for many years to come.

[@Battle_Garage]

Always appreciate how straight forward you guys are, buying the car you like for yourself instead of something for youtube clout

[@zainhussain9259]

Congrats on the M2 Thomas!!✨

[@matp111-9]

Ridiculous how vehicle prices keep escalating.

[@whoschuck]

Thomas & James - I just want to congratulate you on building such an amazing channel. I envy you guys because I to am a SERIOUS car enthusiast and I had always wanted to build a channel like this but could never get a good partner to commit to start it with me. You guys filled the spot and you are doing a phenomenal job in what is my absolute DREAM JOB! I watch EVERY video you guys post AND I also just purchased a barely used (8,200 mile) Hockenheim silver metallic M2 cs (6MT). I went "full fat" on the M2 and I am un the US and my car was actually imported from Canada! After I saw the video you guys posted on the M2 cs a year or so back and then after seeing this video, a few years back I set a goal to get one and I just took delivery last week. It is the car of my dreams, perfect in every way, mind the diaper exhaust which is already on order to be changed. Look for videos about my M2 cs on my channel posted soon!

[@joshdvela]

Congrats Thomas ! As an OG LCI owner for the last two years, this is an amazing and fun car! I agree with the exhaust. I upgraded to a M performance exhaust with carbon fiber tips and it has be awesome!

[@drdeke3000]

Nice choice Thomas! My vote is to return the front plate to stock position. Also, not sure why BMW continually bloats their models as time passes on. Grows on the outside, at the same time reducing interior room. Curious choices. My E39 M5 weighs around the same as a new 2 series. Insane.

[@Koogly]

The Way Thomas rants about his car!! Pure gold!! It is wonderful to see it happen to someone who did all the work and knows each and everything they put into it and explain it to another person!!

[@thehauke7981]

The M240i would have deserved its own review. It’s a great little car. Feels like they had to talk bad about it so the M2 looks better, which it wouldn’t need. I’m glad bmw still produces fun little sport cars

[@juancruz-jg5pq]

The Bmw 240 is for street . While the M2 is for track, adn for authentic BMW M division Enthusiast.

[@wilsonwen8410]

I like that M240i!

[@suppaman19]

The new 2 series coupes are hideous. That alone ruins the upgrades the car has by being new gen model.

[@yuriydee]

Your videos were actually part of what actually convinced me to get a M2C. Feels like the last of the nice looking BMWs and I just like the F87 design. Manual as well of course. With traction control off the car feels scary, like I have to tame it. I drive it every chance I get.

[@TucsonDude]

Are you afraid of the spun hub issue with your S55 engine?

[@geneforte9038]

Never test drove an M2. I did test the 2022 bmw m240ix and loved it. I will be ordering one in purple in time for spring. What an engine! So powerful & responsive.

[@nadiranarain9309]

Thomas seems so genuinely happy during this entire video, you can see it in his eyes. Such a stunning car. So happy for him to finally have one of his own! ❤️❤️❤️

[@oficina_moomoo]

Welcome to the M2 club. As for the plate, get rid of the side plate, it just does not look good. Get the carbonio plate holder, it goes in the center, easy to remove, attaches to the front mesh. Also if I want 0-60 I get a tesla, I have a comp but would still take an OG over the m240 any day. Yall need to put the comp against the m240, I bet it still gets beat by the 240.

[@mkvB58KING]

Comp should win, the S55 pulls so much harder up top than the B58, depending on track conditions of course.

[@oficina_moomoo]

@@mkvB58KING comp pulls in the mid range and levels off at the last few RPMs. From a roll I bet the comp takes it, but not so sure fro, a dig specially in cold conditions you going to be fighting for traction. Thomas also needs better tires, PS4s would fair much better than whatever crappy continentals are on there, the PS4s are amazing but switching to my winter setup, my comp is always fighting for traction

[@Sabretooth-Biggavel]

If you cover the front mesh with a plate that blocks air to the intercooler

[@oficina_moomoo]

@@Sabretooth-Biggavel not enough to make a difference. We are talking like 30% of the tiny place is in front. It covers about the same amount as the plate holder BMW actually makes and gives with the car. Plenty of people are using that carbonio plate holder without any problems what so ever (go look on bimmer post). Also if you are tracking the car which maybe the only place the plate covering would make a difference (even though even then I don't think it would), you remove the plate anyways so it really does not matter).

[@Euro.throttle]

I don’t care what type of new tech they put on the new m240i or the upcoming M2 Comp. Doesn’t matter if they are faster. I will still go for this M2 or the current M2 Comp. without even thinking twice about it. The design is just gorgeous and timeless.

[@connermt74]

May be faster but it doesn’t look nearly as good as the 18 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@alexnutcasio936]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. The M240i is no longer a poseur car.

[@yabo1]

It certainly doesn't look as bad as the M3.

[@ridgelineenjoyer1517]

Why did they get rid of the classic bmw lights in the new design?

[@patrickbateman6885]

@@ridgelineenjoyer1517 They’re trying to hark back to the 2002 with this 2 Series. That’s why it only has a single headlight.

[@ridgelineenjoyer1517]

@@patrickbateman6885 Well they aren't doing a very good job at it

[@edwardgrant69]

Theses intros get better and better

[@fastrider158]

You made the right decision mate! Im still shocked about the fact that the rear seats have less space, since the car has growth (same platform as 3 & 4 series). I love my M2c and was wondering in 2020 if o should pull the trigger or wait for the next gen, so glad I didn't :D I think you're gonna love it even more when you have upgraded the Exhaust and the tires (i love the PS4S). Cheers mate! PS: the both of you make really entertaining Vids, keep on!

[@Runinaway]

And I’m James 😎

[@hardiksnair735]

And I’m batman..

[@sh1ftdown]

And we're going for a drive

[@MasterGoku21]

​@@sh1ftdownthis ain't the straight pipes lol

[@chunkymonkeymatt]

Congrats on the new BMW M2 Thomas. I also can't wait to see you guys compare your M2 to the Next Gen M2 when it comes out

[@M4Kendall]

You guys helped me pull the trigger on my own m2 over the 240i. James was right about the big grin being the biggest difference.

[@Nicolas-og2qn]

Also bought an manual OG M2 this year, such a fantastic car ❤️

[@AlexRYT]

Same here, I bought a long beach blue OG M2 the only thing I wish it had is a 6MT, I spent 6 months looking for one with a manual transmission but I never found one so back in May finally I made the decision to get the DCT, it may not be as fun as the manual M2 but it still is some hell of a car

[@Nicolas-og2qn]

@@AlexRYT has one advantage, you can shift while drifting :)

[@Hangman4358]

I have been waiting for the moment Thomas bought an M2. You could tell every time he drove any iteration of the M2 he just loved it. As an OG M2 owner, welcome to the club!

[@ChrisEOfficial]

Bought one as well 2 months ago and it surprises me more every day I drive it.

[@TheGrinerizer]

Man, you guys just keep getting better and better. This may be your best work yet! Thanks for doing what you do. Signed, a longtime fan down in Atlanta, Georgia.

[@georgimihalkov4781]

"I'm really not impressed with the Continental tyres, they're very mediocre"... Are you saying that The straight pipes are recommending us to buy bad tyres? 😁

[@max12337]

I was looking for this comment 🤣

[@nikoladukanovic5615]

Immediately thought of that after his laugh

[@vivendonoalasca3307]

@@max12337 same haha

[@bella_testastretta]

lol they are mediocre not bad. Michelins will always be the best

[@kristisrb]

Felt like a direct attack lol. To be fair, it's good to be able be to say things like that. Contis are generally good, even for the price, but rarely the best.

[@justsomeguy1141]

Films are getting so so sick boys, keep it up!

[@EmjayDTube]

The OG M2 even looks better than the new one. I would have gone for the new M2 because of the better engine performance, but I just don't like the looks

[@SixGearsDaily]

It’s not a M2

[@harrisr1018]

There is no 'new' m2 yet. This comparison was against an m240i

[@CruiseControl1]

My buddy and I both did track driving this year. We each have different year and style SI's. He has a 2008 SI sedan. I have a 2009 SI Coupe and we were out there track driving and the most common car that we saw was the M2 and the M2 competition. All of the m2's performed very well, if not the best of the day and that was going up against Corvettes, Camaros mustangs, a Porsche boxster, Porsche Cayman, and a turbocharged Miata. There was some good competition out there, but all the m2's did very well and they may even have placed one, two and three that day.

[@maximborodyuk3773]

you're tripping, if m2's aren't hardcore modified, it's all about drivers (or you're on a cart track lol), in no universe it could keep up with track version of camaros/mustangs/porsches, and especially with corvettes.But yeah, it could keep up with 2.3 ecoboost and 2.0 camaro

[@SosaKinkos]

Any Giulias?

[@CruiseControl1]

@@maximborodyuk3773 This was an SCCA event at PPIR here in Colorado on July 28th which ran from 2:30pm-9:00pm and sorry but the M2's dominated the day and by a wide margin. 94 degree day made the track temps very hot but we still had fun even though we got our butts kicked. The corvettes lost, the Camaro SS lost, the mustang GT lost, and the Cayman lost that day.

[@maximborodyuk3773]

@@CruiseControl1 probably all drivers except m2's was like first time at the track ever lol You can clearly see for yourself what m2 can (not much) and what m2 can't do with simillar drivers on different tracks.

[@gigi9467]

Give it a lil eventually they fall apart quicker than a vette and specially a miata..

[@darrenwalters6339]

M2 looks a hell of a lot better, and the n55 in the M2 sounds way better to, the b58 in the m240i sounds a lot more muted and numb compared. M2 is the one for me 👌🏻

[@MrRootMusic]

I wrote it under another video and I am writing it now here. The level of your production, editing, script, presentation and the chemistry between the presenters heave reached the best years of TOP GEAR with the Clarkson-Hammond-May trio. Seriously!

[@hasiyajp]

Absolutely 🤌🏼🔥 It was nostalgic when u mentioned the top gear legendary trio 🥺

[@AlexRYT]

I bought the exact same car about 4 months ago for $44k USD, it had 10k more miles than Thomas' M2, a long beach blue OG M2 the only thing I wish it had is a 6MT. After 6 months looking for an OG M2 with a manual transmission I grew impatient so I made the decision to get the DCT, it may not be as fun as the 6MT M2 but it still is an amazing car

[@WaseemKhan-iu4bh]

Dct is faster and sounds more exotic anyways

[@ballyp81]

DCT is one of the best on the market and works so well with the M2. (I always had manual cars)

[@AlexRYT]

@@ballyp81 I ended up selling it and bought the exact same car with the 6MT

[@asap_s8]

Looking to buy the new m240I very soon. Fresh warranty and the new tech are the reasons why im going for the m240I. Also the colour is the biggest reason why I want it since day one lmao.

[@mharro88]

But it's worse.

[@codskilclanchannel6420]

I love the 2 series so much. I went with the m240 2017 because b58, awd, and cheaper. Still love the looks of the m2 because I think the only thing my car is missing is the width of the m2

[@KareemKayy]

i came close to doing it but i wanted an actual M car, didn't care for the awd, the wider looks alone is the reason j love my car a lot more, happy for you tho, but i didn't want any regrets and if i got a m240 vs an m2 i've sure i would've eventually gotten bored of it, plus they dnt offer manual! 😭 PS i just picked up a 2018 M2 in black last week , best choice ever, a little pricey but that's what M cars come with

[@bikotheanimator6169]

This is what I am thinking about my next car. I have researched the F82 and A90 Supra. Now I have discovered this neat little M240i car with the x-drive option. I think my next car in the future will be a 2017-2020 M240i because of the price, AWD option it has the B58 engine, and it has the extra car space I like.

[@codskilclanchannel6420]

@@bikotheanimator6169 yea it’s super great I still love it

[@BestMotorWerks]

Thomas you are a true bmw m enthusiast. Happy to see a person likes his car so much..keep going

[@xabraxasx]

I've owned my 2022 M240i since april 2022, and to date have only seen one other on the road where I live and the owner happens to be a salesman at the BMW dealership. Very satisfying having a car no one else has....I see more M2 CS regularly than this car

[@B4TM4NX]

That was definitely an awesome episode. The whole time near the end I was wondering why James was so fixated with the rear seat headroom, but then I realized hey, he’s just a considerate dude. 100% Canadian now.

[@xxtoughguy]

I usually don't take much note when I see a Beemer on the street but the first time I saw an M2, I said "I want it." The proportions are perfect on it. Looks small without looking being Miata small, but mean enough to no blinker merge with authority.

[@bricklayerlzdp9825]

More like mean enough to get sideswiped not using a blinker

[@mspeed2441]

Super review. Thanks you for not comparing everything to the e46 M3. I enjoyed my OG M2 for the most part. It drove excellently once it was moving. Like my F80, it NEVER hooked up no matter which tires it had. The interior should have been better---eclipsed by the M240's. So, I bought an X3M Comp. It solved everything, but now leases for $1400/mo. and not matter how insanely fast it is, it feels SUV-heavy. That said, I miss cars. I miss cheap leases. For $60K loaded w/ xDrive and performance wheel pkg, the M240 is magic (I'll yield a few hundred lbs for xDrive, because I live in the North Pole). Plus, even as a brand new chassis, unlike the X1, i7, it has a shifter and iDrive roller. Also, an active suspension, excellent interior, M boost, gets awesome mpg, has autopilot, has the real B58. The single drawback is two doors, and only two dash trim options. My next car will be the M240, because I hate the M3 grill and the S58 mpg (10mpg in sport+), and the $60K M240 leases for about $800. Wish I could afford an M8 GC. But alas, even a new $90K X3M Comp now leases at $1400 (Thank you Janet Yellin). It also gets 10mpg in Sport+ mode. Forget that. I'll buy a house instead, and never carry adult passengers in the back seat.

[@michaelluttmer2486]

Congratulations Thomas! Also just got an 18 OG M2 in LBB in manual earlier this year (from a A90 Supra) because of your reviews from 2017. Ironically, it's an upgrade from the BRZ because it's practical, manual, and still has analog aspects but more power and a stronger motor. An excellent choice! The M2 starter pack is swapping out the charge pipe, I'm also getting the same Apex wheels (for track, non-staggered) in 18" but in anthracite, because the bronze just doesn't work with the lighter blue. They are still doing a group buy on it until the end of the year I think. It needs nothing else but bitier front pads. Check out Apex Nurburg's recent kinematics mods for suspension choices. Absolutely love it. I hope you love yours! Congrats again!

[@ian2372]

The quality of yalls videos just keep getting better and better! Love this channel. The purple pocket rocket looks awesome. Nobody buys a coupe for a backseat. Its a non factor for me.

[@Ratcher]

As an M2 owner, what a great review. Tom, you put it perfectly why one would get the M2 despite less straight line performance. I actually have a manual comp that is surely faster than the M240i but even if it wasn’t I couldn’t care less. So much fun.

[@Zemnexx]

How are you two not absolutely killing it with the numbers you pull to your KZbin channel, enough so that Thomas can have any BMW he liked and James can have 20 Miatas??

[@TheAntorian]

Great video! I really was surprised that an adult couldn’t fit in the back seats comfortably. Sad to see that they didn’t carry that over in the new generation as I had to do a road trip with three adults in my last gen M240i and we were all fine. Even had to go off road for the last 30 minutes and made it without getting stuck (so happy I had the LSD). I don’t see ever getting rid of my last gen M240i unless a M2 comp lands in my lap. Curious to see what they do with the new M2.

[@RodrigoLopez-kr1ig]

Congratulations Thomas! Hard work truly does pay off. Thanks for the great video boys!

[@goneracing1646]

I miss my N55 M2. The Model 3 Performance I'm in now is objectively a better car in almost every way 90% of the time, but the M2 was perfect for 100% of that 10%. To me they're the last real M cars, focused on driving as opposed to youtube drag races.

[@pranavk8293]

How would you describe the Model 3 Performance to be better?

[@goneracing1646]

@@pranavk8293 more comfortable, better interior (less creaks and rattles, no ocean of extremely cheap, hard black plastic, better technology (except for idrive, which is the king of infotainment operation), faster, especially in the wet and everytime you need it to be, without having to switch modes, but it does lack that 10% playful, dancing on tiptoes aliveness the OG M2 is famous for. I daily drove my M2 for 5 years, in addition to track and club events, yet I have people on youtube constantly tell me my experience with a car they didn't own is wrong lol.

[@pranavk8293]

@@goneracing1646 That’s interesting. The Model 3 I test drove had panel gaps big enough to fit a laptop and fabric was glued on to the seats. This was one and a half years ago, have they improved? I’m impressed by Tesla’s straight line performance but does it ever get mundane or boring/repetitive? I’ve heard a mixed bag of both

[@goneracing1646]

@@pranavk8293 I've only driven 2021 models. The build quality is on a par or superior to the two BMWs and Merc I've owned before. I'm guessing there have been huge quality control improvements (mine was built in China). The straight line perfomance still makes me queasy a month in, but I'm discovering it will move around if you throw it into corners, esp trail-braking in (I have not played with the traction settings or the AWD bias in track mode, yet). Also the thing's AWD system is supernatural. It is so. fast. in the wet it's almost spooky. It just goes and nothing I have ever driven exits corners with the violence this thing does. It still feels... like... not alive, like it's just too good and efficient, not like the M2 that would go sideways with all the stability systems on and it's playful, loutish personality.

[@Fastvoice]

Yuri from @TheStraightPipes: "What is the recommended Continental tire for it?" Throttle House: "None of them!" 😁

[@sambulo]

man the quality on these videos

[@ZZGTKING]

Thomas, Try the New Michelin Cup2 Connect tires(OE tire for M2CS) for your M2, it's MEGA, the steering response is mental, also get a M2C steering SW flash, it feels more natural than OG M2 steering.

[@TheWombatCredenza]

The closer we get to an EV world, the more apparent that the experience is more important than being the stoplight king. IMHO- but I’m Wombat…

[@JU5TAV6]

BIG FACTS! THE SOUND, THE SMELLS ETC.

[@1MTEK]

You people are going to hate me for this comment, but there is nothing preventing a car manufacturer from attaching a resonator to the subframe and putting a stick shift and clutch pedal in an EV. BMW already synthesizes engine sounds. Why not BS the entire experience? haha

[@JacesOwnWorld]

Exactly. Look at it this way. Why do these older Gen people spend hundreds of thousands on classic cars that are slow as balls? It’s for the same reasons. It’s the experience they remember having in them.

[@JacesOwnWorld]

@@1MTEK the moment an EV car does that, I’ll remember your comment, but I would put my money in it that that will never happen. Doesn’t mean they couldn’t. Just means they wouldn’t, because why…

[@treverfogarty8514]

Go ride a horse slower alway sucks

[@footballwarehouse6293]

Your intros are so cool and the content is on another level, for that you just gained yourself a new subscriber.

[@earlmacmullin4688]

Congrats on the acquisition Thomas! I hope you enjoy yours for your use case. Another super fun video. Also had no idea the new M240 was quite so... corpulent.

[@williamk1800]

Congrats on the best sounding modern-ish BMW, Thomas! I miss mine so much. I had the M Performance Exhaust on my 2017, but would highly recommend a Remus as well. I took mine autocrossing, and if yours is on the same stock Continental 3 tires, then they're absolute junk compared to a Michelin PS4S. Need an Extra Throttle House episode featuring all your new mods on the M2 (exhaust, suspension, wheels + tires)! Cheers from Vancouver.

[@f87]

I’m not sure it’s fair to compare two cars that are four years apart, but the fact that they are comparable shows how amazing the OG M2 really is.

[@TheJimmyplant]

That's the point to compare them apart. It's about what you can get for money.

[@dcb1728]

Wow... major burn on the Continental tires... or is that a major burn of the Straight Pipes (who are sponsored by Continental)?

[@jonikomasu]

Thought the same

[@jimettamarna417]

What would be the Continental recommended tire?

[@fleecystheking]

It’s certainly both! TH gets Michelin as a sponsor regularly, so it’s that as well.

[@BrakRulesAll]

Maybe Michelin will come calling now. Joe Achilles has a solid partnership with them. Gotta be great to be backed by the best.

[@siteczek]

Pretty obvious burn of TSP. Not sure why there is so much beef between them. I would love to see some collaboration but it probably never happen. Anyways, back to the studio.

[@RickBeck82]

Love it guys! Keep up the good work!

[@erikhuisman2487]

You haven't even watched the whole video yet... It's a minute old and your comment is 2 minutes old....

[@RickBeck82]

@@erikhuisman2487 don't be mad I beat you to it

[@bpeet315]

My father recently bought himself a 4 doors 1999 BMW 318i , and damn what a car. The steering, the luxury even though its an old 318 but nevertheless, its a great entry sport-ish car. So I'm considering on buying myself a m240i in the near future. If an old 1999 BMW can give you this feeling, I wonder what will a modern M car do to you.

[@yusufdomun303]

The OG M2 is one of the best M cars ever ! The semi digital dials also is pretty damn cool

[@jliu98]

It’s OG not oj

[@yusufdomun303]

@@jliu98 Yeah , 😂 . I'll edit it

[@redcarrot1148]

Congrats on the M2, Thomas! I owned an '18 M2 myself for nearly 4 years. Agree on the OEM Conti is garbage - poor traction, rough ride and road noise. I ended up going with 18" Apex EC-7 on Conti ECS and they improved over OEM setup in every aspect. My recommendation on exhaust is start w/ a Fabspeed sport cat. It adds a throaty sound and some hp/tq to boot. All aftermarket axel backs for the M2 have some level drone. Good luck on your M2. P.S. ND2 Miata is a fantastic car (I own a 30th AE myself). Don't you dare tell James to sell that his!

[@andreidragomir5360]

Them standing with one finger up as shady said: "And put one of them fingers on each hand up" in the next verse. That is a subtle detail that really caught my eye

[@hawkman996]

Congrats Thomas! Beautiful car. I’d say M2 all the way as they nailed the looks as the proportions are just spot on. Add to that a usable back seat and manual then there is no argument in my eyes. Yes the new one is faster but that doesn’t always mean it’s more engaging. You definitely made the right choice. Thanks for sharing with us all.

[@AlpiePEAKS]

I love these guys, they make content that spoils all of us lmao. Thanks for the content and continue making all of this enjoyable content : D

[@SME5724]

Looks so beautiful ripping around those corners Thomas … congratulations 🎉 🍾

[@hammad_r7]

Really love em all but the og M2 has a special place in onu hearts. Can't hate that beauty.😍💯