BMW M4 CSL v Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA: DRAG RACE

It’s time for a Germany vs Italy head-to-head!
We’ve got Mat lining up in the all-new BMW M4 CSL, and he’s going up against Yianni in the Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA! Both of these cars are super rare, with only 10 of each being sold in the UK! The question is, which is quickest over the quarter-mile?
Starting with the BMW, it’s powered by a 3-litre twin-turbo straight-six which is good for 550hp and 650Nm of torque. It drives the rear wheels only, and tips the scales at 1,625kg - 100kg less than the standard M4! It’ll set you back a fair bit, though, costing £126,000!
Then we have the Alfa. It’s housing a 2.9-litre twin-turbo V6 under the bonnet which can produce 540hp and 600Nm. It’s lighter than the BMW, at 1,540kg, but it’s also more expensive, coming in at £150,000! Just like the BMW, it also drives the rear wheels only.
So the Alfa is down on power, but it’s also lighter! Will that prove decisive? There’s only one way to find out - LET’S RACE!

[@carwow]

Which would you choose? VOTE BELOW!

[@carwow]

VOTE: BMW M4 CSL!

[@carwow]

VOTE: Alfa Giulia GTA!

[@okithdesilva129]

Both cars are insane! But the BMW M4 CSL is my favourite!

[@DarsheelSethia]

BMW

[@shazad1984]

@@carwow m4

[@rohansharma3223]

Finally seeing the iconic duo after a long time.

[@AFollower0416]

Iconic duo? The giulia ist just a bad copy of the bmw lol

[@cristianmihai1744]

@@AFollower0416 you have no idea what alfa means, isn‘t it? Giulia is a 2016 which beat on nurburgring the m4 back then. Gta/m is just a qv tuned ;)

[@MD-uu5nt]

@@AFollower0416 bad....that must be why the Giulia won pretty much every comparison with the M3 when it came out...that M4 is hideous. BMW have to lie about their horsepower figures to win. Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

[@rohansharma3223]

@@AFollower0416 i was talking about mat and yanny😂

[@chamaldealwis9]

@@AFollower0416 he's on about matt and yanni, the only iconic car in this race is the CSL

[@manveerghuman5276]

Two extremely rare cars like this is amazing for a drag race!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Do a drag race between Mia Taylor's Bentley Speed 8 vs Honoka Kousaka's GTR LM NISMO 2015 LMP1, Carwow!

[@rickybobby7549]

Rare? My Honda civic is rare too then

[@yan7911]

@@rickybobby7549 m4 csl : 1000 cars produced, giulia gta : 500 cars produced, yes these are rare

[@sensational6111]

they are rare but there is nothing amazing about these two cars

[@dreadpirate6469]

@@yan7911 because even if they produce a million of them, only few numbers will sell

[@JesusRodriguez-tm8go]

Alfa, no doubt. It'd be interesting seeing a fast lap of them around a track

[@alexcepile1420]

pretty sure the lighter + more downforce alfa would win

[@Franc39A6DD]

@@alexcepile1420 It already has difficulty beating an M3 competition, so an M4 gts, no chance. The Alfa has an older architecture, competing with the BMW F8X. G80 is another world.

[@alexcepile1420]

@@Franc39A6DD any video to back that up?

[@Franc39A6DD]

@@alexcepile1420 kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqSxiHWndsaCfq8

[@alexcepile1420]

@@Franc39A6DD yep. guess you got q point there.

[@marinusikke886]

I've had different fast cars in my younger days..gti and gte and turbo's...and then i got my first fast tuned Alfa and then i felt something you can't explain!!!! it was a real CarWow💪💪

[@user-my4xu4gf1z]

U felt the less power then BMW?

[@carlosalonso2991]

No he visto en el alfa el DNA más rabioso marcado!!! No creo que le saque esa diferencia.

[@AI-qd4vb]

@@user-my4xu4gf1z No, he actually felt something, unlike the numb new era BMWs

[@lewissykes99]

Imagine they started testing cars around a track too 👀 I can see car wow turning into a new top gear/grand tour and I’m here for it

[@bbkingwasthegreatest711]

Mat and Yanni have the chemistry for it to work

[@francisbawasanta6310]

I imagine the lighter car and better braking might even out on a course instead of just a straight away... but we may never get that video. 🤨

[@lewissykes99]

@@francisbawasanta6310 we can always hope 🤞🏻

[@lewissykes99]

@@bbkingwasthegreatest711 I know ,I could watch them race around all day

[@bbkingwasthegreatest711]

@@lewissykes99 They need a third person, like a James May maybe that German presenter would be ok, but yes they really should try it, imagine a road trip with them.

[@jackahorey2354]

You could argue Matt would have won even if he'd plowed through the bunny, but that would be splitting hares.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Matt has been always funny.

[@aussie2uGA]

I see what you did there 😂

[@Mk1Male]

I don't find that very bunny but hare we are 🙃

[@jesuschristiscallingyou953]

OK, that was a well-written joke! 😅

[@oscarrc1495]

Yup he missed it by a hare

[@MrHenk588]

The Alfa generates way more downforce than the M4, it's a track build spec, not a drag build one

[@bmwn62]

Lmao m4 isn’t drag car

[@uThuthukani]

If you were talking about the Rolling Race then yess you’re right. But the drag race?? They both aren’t for drag racing but lap times i think the Alfa would smash the Beemer

[@Jonas-hh9fu]

@@uThuthukani i dont think so, i think that the bmw would still be faster around a Track. The current 3/4 Series Platform is just incredibly potent in the regular m3/4 Wehre as the Alfa is slowly aging. I hagelt Drive the csl yet but From what i experienced With the m3 competition i dont believe that the Alfa would Beat the csl on Track. Especially in you Consider that the csl is the fastest bmw ever on the nordschleife. I would still take the Alfa though 😂 just to beautiful

[@kaimelis]

@@Jonas-hh9fu only a complete dumbass thinks an alfa would be faster around a track than an m bmw, prove me that an ill eat my own chocolate hat.

[@defqon3193]

@@uThuthukani M4 csl 7.15 min nurbr and alfa did 7.32 min

[@Konszky]

I´d still have the Alfa, any day of the week, in any circumstance. Trackday, daily, C&C, cruising, touring... ANY circumstance.

[@deimantasbutkus1219]

take it to the mechanics

[@Konszky]

@@deimantasbutkus1219 my Alfa came with 7 years full warranty. Make what you want out of that.

[@MrMikeyj81]

@@Konszky Yeah cause you dam well need it! They are unreliable 80% of the time lol

[@Konszky]

@@MrMikeyj81 you know you're not making sense. A manufacturer of anything wouldn't offer 7 years warranty if they didn't have confidence in their product. How many Alfas have you owned?

[@kristoffer816]

@@Konszky Er så mange kålhuer som overhode ikke veit hva de prater om. Moderne biler generelt er like holdbare uansett merke:P

[@propm]

That Alfa just looks sooooo good, I don't really care if it's slower when it looks and sounds so much better.

[@kamovmil5843]

They used the lower specs GTA, they didn't play fair. They were dirty. They should have tested the M4 with the Giulia GTAm which has setup and specs for track like the csl.

[@jakegargiulo5101]

@@kamovmil5843 Yeah it was so weird how much the Alfa lost by. Doesn't make sense.

[@hassanger8128]

This M4 looks way better, sexier, and more unique and aggressive.

[@kamovmil5843]

@@hassanger8128 bmw is an ugly German box.

[@eddy_6502]

@@hassanger8128 bs

[@palefaced1]

I'd still have the Alfa Romeo all day long. It's just beautiful

[@giuseppe-xd8ty]

So true man

[@braincorruptor5315]

But that wouldn't change the fact that m4 is still a better car.

[@h4c1k07]

@@braincorruptor5315 XD BMW fanboy

[@braincorruptor5315]

@@h4c1k07 😹👍

[@mr.o9679]

@@braincorruptor5315i wouldnt buy the best car in the world if its that ugly like the m4

[@MGZRJackass]

Both stunning cars!! But I think I’d pick the Alfa if I had the money, such a stunning car

[@marimtavrishvili7869]

Yeah… the 3 series copycat

[@user-my4xu4gf1z]

Literally uglier

[@TioUngaro]

I'd go with Alfa and go with style

[@crazyshotzz1287]

Go then bmw wins again

[@Hef20000]

And better stopping power

[@therockmillenary5985]

Lo stile NON FA' UNA SUPER SPORTIVA..Alfa estrema..dura adatta in pista..un poco come la quadrifoglio verde..lo stesso marchionni lo disse appena uscita..BMW uguale più affidabilità TOTALE..potenza e comodità al topo poi se è x drive fantastica..un auto bella la BMW e anche per tutti i giorni..i tedeschi sanno come essere SEMPRE al TOP qui'in BMW..motori sportivi

[@stachecki6227]

Yeah mechanic style, where is my engine😂

[@RyeRyeL]

and breakdowns and poor build quality in the Alfa

[@combativesquire4234]

I saw the gulia the other day, it looked and sounded amazing

[@purwantiallan5089]

Giulia sounded better than Life L190 F1 Car. That car sounded like a genset.

[@drstevej2527]

It’s sound it’s it’s only redeeming factor.

[@poseidonguy3940]

It looks goofy with that nachos grill, no wonder it was a sales disaster.

[@bocko159]

@@poseidonguy3940 Yeah that's why ze germans copied everything to M4, from diffusers to color and rear spoiler. Just check how M changed in 5-6 years after QV and GTA arrived.

[@poseidonguy3940]

@@bocko159 That's coming from someone with a 159 in his username. JFL those fanboys

[@mbulelogumede6903]

I'd take that Gullia any day of the week. The looks are just a take away

[@Rookshana.Takolia786]

Exactly...

[@arielkaca3478]

Seen one in italy ancona a red one the sound and the look just crazy

[@TheTruelakersfan]

This the race I wanted to see! And I’m surprised of the outcome. Great video guys👏👌👍

[@Brandon090]

Your channel is the best

[@yvesmakunga4739]

These 2 are my favourites hands down 🙌🏾 And next race: 1000hp evolve M5 competition vs Ferrari SF90 pls

[@JahoSelamaj]

Nope that BMW is gonna blow up 🤣🤣

[@mr.onlooker]

🔥❤️

[@Catalinddm]

Was thinking exactly the same thing. 👍

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@Catalinddm what about a drag between Ferrari 412T2 vs Sauber C11 vs Rimac Nevera?

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@JahoSelamaj BMW always did.

[@octanography5685]

There is a video on KZbin where M4 CSL without any tune shows 605 HP and 720NM on the dyno. And in this video, you can see that difference in power.

[@MD-uu5nt]

Yeah, it's ridiculous how BMW always lie about their power figures. That's almost 10% more than they claim which is enormous.

[@kacperadamski5104]

Gnata cheating…

[@Timoastra]

No question about it. The power figures BMW claims for the M-cars is more like wheel horsepower than crank horsepower.

[@chamaldealwis9]

@@MD-uu5nt it's not about lying lol it's just a 10% margin they use becos not every engine will perform the same, plus German hp is always stronger than Italian hp

[@Omie01]

@@MD-uu5nt you think thats a bad thing or what? oh no my sports car has more power than stated! lol least they dont over exaggerate like italian and american makes.

[@mehuldharap]

The editor is fire😂😂😂

[@DylanBrown1977]

Great video😊

[@Presto_001]

Great to see Yanni back in these drag races. Please can you get his Lamborghini back on the channel to do some awesome drag races like this one. It would be interesting seeing a base model Porsche 911 Carrera or a Carrera GTS go up against the BMW M4 CSL in a future drag race.

[@Y14nny]

🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@mikhailmazur7]

M4 Competition AWD did 10.9 in 1/4! I see in locate show as 11.2 for stock M3 RWD auto from drag!

[@hornet99923]

how arrogant and rude Matt has become ..

[@martinortiz575]

A 911 GTS would beat the CSL. Porsche are the best in the business in launch control, Porsche made the best DCT by today standards (the famous PDK). My guess is that in a drag race the 911 GTS would beat the CSL, but i can't say the same for the roll race.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@Y14nny Yianni, hope in the next drag race, you do a drag between Ayumu Uehara's LM55 Mazda vs Red Bull X2019 Competition.

[@lowemichael03]

I wonder how much does the drag from the Is Alfa Romero affected race results?

[@itaholic902]

it doesn't come as a surprise that the CSL outperforms the GTAm because 1. on the dyno the CSL shows 605 HP, where the normal M3/M4 already has 550 HP 2. the announced weight for the Giulia is the dry weight, so without any fluids. My Q with carbon seats and CCM breaks weights 1.755 kg, which is much more than the official weight of 1.620 kg. So both cars will weigh almost the same ... and then there is a weight difference between Mat and Yanni ... lol

[@hogwild5844]

This is the very important detail missed. The reason the M4 walked away is it had around 70BHP more than the Giulia. BMW told very large porky pies about the power output of their car whereas Alfa Romeo didn't. In fairness if someone owned a GTA they could gamble and have it tuned which is less than £1000 and it would have 605bhp as well but it would void the warranty on your 150k Alfa Romeo.

[@luffararnesugerkuk]

Weight difference between the drivers is not a big deal, considering the German have got almost a full tank and the Italian even got the light on at the dash so that is kind of out the window imho. But yes them Germans lie about their power, is that not a good thing though?

[@Darkie015]

Yanni's excitement was short lived on the first race🤣😂

[@Gthere-cs3ow]

Oh hallo lol

[@mr.onlooker]

😂

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@Gthere-cs3ow for me its full of excitement.

[@bakangterence14]

😂

[@Gg_5096]

Poor yanni

[@Y14nny]

Here we go again! 😊

[@KristianKG]

I think that at high speed and with high air resistance, frontal air resistance and aerodynamics play a key role in achieving speed. With the Alfa having more wings and spoilers, a bigger silhouette and 50Nm less than the M4 CSL, I'm not surprised the BMW is faster.

[@justinleuropa]

That down force on the Alfa doesn’t help but around a track that Alfa must be a dream. And it’s gorgeous

[@marwanhussien1748]

I knew that alfa will win the brake test .. its really a track focused machine

[@ogbubba8407]

And its lighter lol

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Alfa has been excellent on this test.

[@Barthoization]

It will win the break-first test as well. Because alfa

[@marwanhussien1748]

@@Barthoization for sure 🤣

[@saturupiah5940]

The Alfa looks and sounds better, but BMW goes better.

[@shaktown5456]

Always love when Yanni is there. His face expressions are always epic when he loses 🤣😂👍👍👍

[@dreadpirate6469]

Daniel is also gives a great energy

[@user-mm2bz5pf9y]

Too much expression , he should be focusing on racing, it’s seems like he lost most of the time.

[@marcinsz6817]

Questions what CSL will show on dyno? They usually have more in real life than in papers

[@1nfiniteloop]

Would go for the Alpha as need a family car right now :) M4 would be fun though!

[@justmax3095]

Holy shit how spectacular does the Giulia look

[@MK-wx5vu]

It really is a work of art. One of the most beautiful cars produced in the last decade in my opinion

[@stevem2323]

It really is, BMW is like some impressive brute, but that Giulia is drop dead gorgeous.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@stevem2323 BMW and Alfa both equally gorgeous in my opinion.

[@shizereg1595]

@@purwantiallan5089 in my opinion bmw design is very bad

[@apostolostvable]

Love the Montreal green. I own a red Veloce and its amazing.

[@cheneubiseulttv8684]

Both are just wow!!!

[@mattwiks]

2dr vs. 4dr... way to go, as always 👏 👍 🙌

[@boka.ng_]

This Is The Race I Been Waiting For❕Thank You Matt

[@purwantiallan5089]

Matt has become Mat Wow again.

[@yiannimize]

Race race race!

[@stephendeklerk2479]

The Alfa looks like it has more down aero, which will increase drag and rolling resistance.

[@larry0465]

Alfa turns heads all day , couldn't care less if the BMW is slightly faster

[@AlbertSpice]

I would prbably still go for the Giulia. The sound alone is worth it

[@velevmma]

сам не си повярва

[@lilelf1075]

Same and if it was the M3 in the video instead of the M4, the Giulia would have won, because the M4 is lighter than a M3

[@wtfhumour2750]

And you can launch it over and over and over again

[@junyaiwase]

@@lilelf1075it cant even beat an M3 LOL

[@sneakybandera8894]

it beats the m3 100 times over in launch and top speed@@junyaiwase

[@77rebz]

Great race @carwow ! Always look forward to the uploads! Would take the Alfa all day errday!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Alfa Romeo 155 TI 1993 say hello.

[@XanderMMV]

The "oh ok" after 3:40, hilarious

[@blaketindle4703]

Mat’s German impersonation still cracks me up 😂

[@northofnosouth1470]

You're the only one then

[@mr.onlooker]

😂

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@northofnosouth1470 i bet it definitely is.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@mr.onlooker well this is funny.

[@StarWalker86]

Up's your crack?

[@InCoGn1t0]

No one believe that the M4 has the power announced…

[@MD-uu5nt]

Look up videos of the M4 CSL on a Dyno. It makes 605hp and 740nm of torque....it's got way more power than the Giulia. Of course it's going to win.

[@Lamarotante]

Difficile da accettare 🤣🤣 povera Giulia 🤣🤣

[@South4153]

@@Lamarotante l'unica cosa triste e la brutta faccia della bmw

[@Lamarotante]

@@South4153 neanche a me fa impazzire ma sono gusti. La Giulia comunque è stata bastonata qui. Sarebbe da vedere in circuito comunque

[@mayc4543]

Maybe it is called efficiency....

[@ms8742]

I had a '23 M4 Comp xDrive for a couple months before I flipped it. M4s are supercar fast.

[@user-sz3pn5nx5b]

Can we do a Trivia episode with Matt rattling off the HP/NM figures across a slew of cars? He has to be a nutter for stats.

[@Baukevandijk]

The italians are pretty correct and optimistic about their HP numbers, where the Germans underrate it so massively that you can almost call it lying. Usually you can count another 20HP on top of the official number. The 2021 Supra for example with the BMW B58 has 382HP on paper but close to 400 HP on the dyno. I suspect that CSL is putting out around 570 580HP -edit: I just read that on a Dyno the CSL puts out 605hp..

[@HectorMartinez-nf9vf]

Holy shit, more than 50hp in the Dyno

[@JesusRodriguez-tm8go]

The alfa wasn't doing that bad then

[@30hours51]

Ok….. GTAm still would destroy it in corners and it’s 200lb lighter than a CSL lol

[@unrealeck]

@@30hours51 M4 CSL does the ring in 7:15. I doubt the GTAm is faster. Alfa have never given any times for it for some reason.

[@ayanrahman9371]

dam that’s crazy

[@BengNinja]

Both cars are absolutely stunning

[@matteod750]

Yeah but BMW Is another level

[@shizereg1595]

@@matteod750 bmw is on another level in bad car design, this m4 looks so weird

[@shawnstpierre3689]

@@matteod750another level of ugly!

[@binflydushy]

@@shizereg1595 Your trippin rn, BMW has just more confidence and the interior of the Alfa is just a 1 of 10

[@shizereg1595]

@@binflydushy are you blind? this BMW is so weird looking, when Alfa is the best looking sedan in the world...

[@Astar23]

The Yianni tune adds an extra 20% power and doesn’t void your warranty 🚀🚀🚀

[@On3d3R_Lvst1nG]

I wonder if it would have been a closer race if the Giulia was driven in manual mode. The paddle shifters are awesome on this car. These cars like to be revvvved.

[@mcdstefano2546]

You had to enter the race mode on the Alfa and it ate the Bmw

[@listener0019]

That "oh okay " by Yianni at 3:44 is golden 😂

[@jaxology276]

yeah truly 😂

[@HarshiLLmusic]

M4 CSL looking 😍

[@DamirStajic]

Said noone

[@sashoxxx]

Looking 💩

[@shizereg1595]

@@DamirStajic this M4 is so ugly

[@user-ih1rl9qk8m]

People’s taste are concerning

[@justlegend8036]

@@DamirStajic you’re not anyone bud😭

[@brunogajdos1175]

I want them both

[@maxwellmasekoameng198]

I like it when Yanni celebrate too early and gets disappointed 🤣🤣🤣 His face expression is killing me🤣🤣🤣

[@olih.]

That Alfa looks 💯 💚

[@carlivandenis]

Why didn't you try to start from first gear with the traction control on?

[@nawafa4307]

Yani makes it that match better. Gold.

[@okithdesilva129]

Carwow drag races are the funniest drag races ever with Mat and Yianni!

[@Y14nny]

😊

[@okithdesilva129]

@@Y14nny Funny and funny!

[@rasherbasher8203]

Your programmed to say that..

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@Y14nny Ren Hazuki's Amemiya Asparadrink RX7 GT300 2006 vs Toms T020?

[@greatgatsby4898]

Great video. My one suggestion is that you show the speeds side by side as comparison of acceleration

[@jaydenrichards8815]

Why isn't there a video with the m4 csl going up against the m5 cs

[@Racoon1008]

CSL dynos at 600hp stock

[@rns6889]

I knew they lied about power numbers again lmao. But that's impressive that bmw made a 3 liter that makes that much power. Must be a lot of boost and a high end engine.

[@robertomelis8203]

It should be great adding a stability test in CarWow videos. That will make a complete view of car performances and liability

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Add also the engine reliability test.

[@plamenpenev5987]

@@purwantiallan5089 they are testing only brand new cars with warranty. Engine reliability is till the end of guarantee. Nobody cares about reliability. Performance is more important for these type of cars.

[@jacopofrancescon2324]

In order to have another BMW victory 😂

[@aralfa]

@@jacopofrancescon2324 S58 engines had a major recall due to the main bearing shell in 2021, so this engine had problems. But unfortunately it is its design which would offer problems in the recing ambient. First of all it is a 6 inline engine: its crankshaft and camshaft are very long and therefore they lack the stiffness of a v6 engine. It is common experience, if we try to twist 2 bars of the same material and diametre applying the same torque the longer bar will twist more. For the S58, compared to the Alfa v6 90 deg, this translates into being less capable to be tuned to reach high RPM and become lighter. In DTM or in Formula 1, v6 90 degrees engines can be tuned to weigh less than 100kg and run at 14000 or more RPM. This is simply not feasible for a straight 6 cylinder engine. Furthermore S58 has a bore of 84mm and a stroke of 90mm. It is a so called "undersquare engine ". On the contrary, Alfa Quadrifoglio has a bore of 86.5mm and a stroke of 82mm. It is what is called "oversquare" engine, like racing cars. How does it translate? If we calculate the piston average velocity, this is given by the formula Vm=2Cn/60, where Vm is the average velocity in m/s, C is the stroke in m (so divide the value in mm by 1000) and n is RPM. Let's see what does it mean for S58 and Alfa Quadrifoglio engines at, say, 7000RPM. With the formula above at 7000RPM, the average piston speed of S58 is 21m/s while for the Alfa v6 90 deg engibe the value is 19,1m/s. As you can easily see, S58 pistons have higher average speeds (roughly 10% more than the Giulia, because their stroke is roughly 10% bigger) and at 7000RPM S58 passes the border of 20m/s, while Giulia's engine is still below 20m/s. This is the reason why Giulia Quadrfoglio is better designed and more reliable for races. Furthermore, while M4csl has a "chipped" version of the base S58 engine, the Giulia Gtam has hardware changes: pistons are new design and the cooling jets increase from 2 in the normal Quadrifoglio to 4 in the Gta and Gtam. In other words, while the M4Csl is nothing more than a "marketing showcar" unsuitable for racing, the Giulia Gtam is a proper race car, with race cars characteristics and big margins for tuning. A mechanical engineer, professional pilot or any enthusiast with a sound technical background would have no doubt in choosing the Giulia

[@jacopofrancescon2324]

@@aralfa Luckily I'm a structural engineer and so I can try to understand what you're talking about, unfortunately I'm not a mechanical engineer so I can't answer you with the same technical language lol 😅 ​​However, the first comment refers to the stability of the car. Since you've commented, I take the opportunity to ask you how much influence has the engine geometry on the car's torsional stiffness. Honestly I expect it could be an effect on that, but not 100%. Anyway, does the V6 is an "Alfa" project or a V(8-2) Ferrari?

[@ApothecaryTerry]

Yianni's "oh ok" was hilarious. Still, picking the Alfa would be an easy choice for me out of these 2, it's plenty quick enough while looking and sounding so much better.

[@t-r-k7534]

and handling is much better too

[@nickmaxfracasso8376]

And it being more usable in the real world being a 4 door sedan

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@nickmaxfracasso8376 wish we could see a test between this M4 CSL vs TVR CERBERA SPEED 12.

[@Squilliam-Fancyson]

@@t-r-k7534 nope. then it would be faster around Nordschleife, but it isn't. In fact even the normal M4 Comp. is faster than the Alfa GTA

[@t-r-k7534]

@@Squilliam-Fancyson same driver?

[@Coolbeans1492]

For those who are unsure what the difference between these cars is it will mostly be transmission. The power is more or less the same and the alfa is even lighter. The bmw climbs ahead bc it has taller gearing and holds onto gears longer meaning it sits in its power band longer. The alfa is faster off the line because its gearing is meant for early acceleration. Had the gearing been the same between both cars the alfa would most likely win due to the difference in weight. Or the alfa puts more gears in the trans and programs it to keep the car in its ideal power band always with the shorter gearing

[@JH-ue2bo]

Dyno would have been interesting. I'm wondering if the BMW had 20 bhp more than claimed and the Alfa 20 less maybe

[@camerondowning7523]

Saw one of those M4 CSLs in Leominster about a month ago. Didn't realise there was only 10 coming to the UK

[@KandiMan]

It’s actually 100

[@chriskost7291]

Yesssssss!! Finally a drag race we were waiting for!!

[@purwantiallan5089]

Me too waited for this drag race. Junna Hoshimi drove this M4 at 2022 Nurburgring. Her lap was 7:00.988

[@deadstreet1675]

Not even seen the race yet but I'd take that alfa all day every day! Stunning!

[@fabriceopeta]

nahh the M4 all day lol

[@ShevaFC]

I'd rather have an m340i than that alfa

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@ShevaFC for me i prefer BMW M1 and M3 GTR.

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@fabriceopeta M3 GTR still smokes the M4.

[@fabriceopeta]

@@purwantiallan5089 regardless can't see anyone with a good car knowledge go for an alfa over M sport 😂. Can't get more unreliable than an Alfa

[@DjNikGnashers]

As a BMW fan, I always want the BMW to win, but man that Alfa is beautiful.

[@liamhorn1150]

There’s a Alfa Romeo guilia QF gtam on sale at the moment on auto trader for £200k 😞

[@Datguyze]

I’d still get an Alfa Romeo tbh . Has been my dream car for a while

[@user-rf9ee1nt2g]

Alfa would beat on a track

[@user-my4xu4gf1z]

​@@user-rf9ee1nt2gur insane BMW has amazing handling

[@blazesmooth5573]

matt colour looks so nice on that csl

[@sitozg1]

There is no competition for BMW. They are making such great cars

[@rjac001]

"I'm sat" never gets old

[@jacobrev6567]

the Alfa romeo giulia gta looks amazing already and BMW M4 CSL as well

[@opinionista.]

Alfa for me, thanks. You guys are great, look forward to the next race.

[@elvisndreu4769]

If you can please try Alfa Giulia GTAm Zagato 😅

[@stephenthomas9956]

Odd request I know, but anyone know the name of the music at 7:22. Thanks

[@guccipucci8458]

Gnossienne no. 1

[@henzo7087]

Thanks Mat and Yianni, BMW anyday everyday. Best engines !

[@jesperlehmann4336]

Yianni is back 👍👍👍 Nice dragrace! I would take the Alfa Romeo GTA 👌💪 and in 12-14 years time when you cant buy a NEW petrol or diesel car from car dealers anymore, I would love to open my garage and take a long ride in that Alfa Romeo GTA.. just because its an alfa 💪😅

[@Ybshy]

Would the outcome be different if they both had even hp and tq?

[@RICHYSUNCLE]

Diffrent cars and engineering

[@mattaustin4209]

Silly question. Alfa.

[@fillefilander]

The Alfa every day. So much more special and very good looks. It's absolutely fast enough!

[@024resu]

Money pit...

[@RickSanchez__642]

Looks so dated and too expensive for what it is. M4 csl is just better in every way.

[@robertjanspoor5296]

Alfa may be slower but wins in the looks , sound and feel department… the BMW ‘s seem to get more ugly with every new version..

[@RickSanchez__642]

@@robertjanspoor5296 looks are subjective. BMW wins where it matters! Faster and better around the track. Why pay more for less

[@aksharpatel3293]

@@RickSanchez__642 it’s about love for the car, the way you love the bmw the same way i and the other guy love Alfa. We don’t buy the car for better looks and better interior as everyone says, it because of the legacy it holds. Alfa all day for me bro.

[@Bloom0to9]

you two make me smile again haha :D and thank you to your editing team :)

[@telegrammeonofficialcarwow5838]

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[@MrBrianeye82]

If the M4 CSL was an xdrive, it would be hella fast!!

[@luisk5582]

Do a race, but using the gear flaps! Then we will see it!👌🤣

[@3R45U5]

The Alfa wins in the looks department hands down. One of the most beautiful GTs ever, even with that weird sparkly goblin green paintjob and that rear spoiler. Beautiful cars just can't be made ugly.

[@theracingban]

The Sound of that Alfa though 😭

[@purwantiallan5089]

Alfa Romeo still sounded better than Osella FA1M.

[@nagylevi3827]

Drag and lap times fade in the eyes of one who beholds an Alfa in its full beauty. I think there is no competition here. The winner was determined when we first looked at the title.

[@user-my4xu4gf1z]

Alfa is ugly curvy ass car terrible looking headlights. And it got SMOKED

[@malaikes69]

the bmw gives 604 horsepower in a power bank, lying on the power of their cars is already a bmw classic. good video!!

[@bmw_m_collector]

Love to drive the CSL, especially around the racetrack. Would be nice to see the Alfa there

[@roboticvenom1935]

alfa drives and looks better though, sounds better too

[@duffydon1741]

@Robotic Venom, i can feel the hurt bro, relax, its only just cars and your whole claim is based on speculation, dont go in too deep, the BMW is better, thats what it has showed us, you haven’t driven either so don’t say anything about driving better!

[@t8506]

@@roboticvenom1935 right im sure youve driven both

[@mikeyyyy8726]

Nah it just sounds better, with an aftermarket exhaust and opf delete tho the csl would sound much better, even if the alfa had an aftermarket one. BMW definitely drives better and is better in performance wise, tuning capabilities, etc. Quit being butthurt, the m4 csl is a better car overall despite it being almost 100kg heavier.

[@nikosstories]

@@duffydon1741 Try M4 CSL vs Giulia GTAm not GTA. And it is a coupe vs a Sedan. Both cars are very good but this is not fair comparition.

[@cliveturner4788]

Is it a difference in gearing?

[@nunezwoe2949]

9:00 I think you missed him by a hare🥁😂

[@AnteFuerst]

A German CSL owner had his car on the Dyno. He had 600hp.

[@purwantiallan5089]

Yep. Even it has 611bhp with 3 dyno tune tester.

[@jordanharrison9170]

Seems to be a theme with Germans cars lately 🤔 First the Golf R now this one, hmm...

[@ionutsolovastru1686]

Fake 550 💪💪💪

[@razor_ramon_]

@@jordanharrison9170 Golf R has been detuned since then :(

[@phongsong9879]

This Alfa Romeo is a beast on the track.

[@sylvaind.6786]

Alfa

[@phongsong9879]

My Bad

[@tommasocapuzzo5850]

bmw is to high hevier the alfa is more more better in any circuit better joob by alfa of chasiss deportation

[@ti8864]

Yes, but the BMW is even more of a beast. I expect it to be even more onesided than this.

[@radiocontrolled9181]

@@ti8864 Around the track, not at all.

[@bpet6990]

Mat. Your vids always make a smile on my yankee face……keep it up dude !

[@raphaeme]

Was the M4 launching in second gear?

[@roythompson6137]

Alfa all the way... Stunning!

[@Robert-ru1hq]

Thank you car wow for keeping the times and presentation of them detailed af nowadays. I cried about it years ago in the comments and nowadays no one does it better.

[@Replayyx]

it would be interesting to see the 0-60 times in these drag races…

[@kibki5773]

60-120 for rolls would be great too. in metric and imperial units

[@Tony11442]

Only amateurs care about 0 to 60 times...

[@naturalbornhuman3450]

Exactly

[@Replayyx]

@@Tony11442 no people who care about car performance do lol just like he highlights them in his normal car reviews

[@emmanuelperrina6105]

@@Tony11442 true. 0-100 is useless. 60-180 is what matter in real life, and even more the handling