BMW R1200 GS Shaft Splines Lubrication / Service 🔧🔦😬

[@stretchmfe4913]

Best instructional on that yet! Nobody else shows the front splines and I figure that's just as important.

[@baden-baden]

Thank you so much!

[@macr88]

Great diy but the front isn’t nearly as important as the rear since it’s locked in place and is not the slip joint like the rear is. Could be good to do if you do lots of wet weather riding or creek crossings just to maintain a rust free environment.

[@FLINTSTONES45]

Would you do this with your car rear wheel drive aswell?

[@stretchmfe4913]

@@FLINTSTONES45 Yes. But the rear diff on a car doesn't see the moisture that these do. Every used vehicle I've bought, gets the diffs inspected and gear oil changed, along with trans, transfer case, oil, etc.

[@macr88]

@@FLINTSTONES45 a cars rear diff is splined in the transmission and lubed by transmission fluid so there’s no need to perform this task on a vehicle. Older vehicles that had slip joints external to the trans had zerc cuttings to lube the splines.

[@frankcastle5294]

Wonderful vid Sir and thanks much for posting. If I can make just 2 small suggestions...not improvements....just suggestions: Many struggle with completely removing the driveshaft from trans output shaft, then reassembling. If you simply slide the shaft back approx 1 inch as seen in your vid...apply spline grease with small brush...then push shaft back in fully...it is well lubricated. Also, people doing this service themselves seem to fixate on the type and amount of grease to apply to all the splines. A simple chassis grease...axle grease...red Silkolene grease..anything in that arena works fine. And apply a common-sense amount of it. Just enough to cover the splines is sufficient. And if you have the trans in 1st gear it makes shaft reassembly much easier and quicker.

[@baden-baden]

Thank you for your comment and watching my channel. Happy New 2022

[@drasticheadcase1021]

Hi, I must say, your a master at getting the rear splines back together. Usually takes me an age to line them up. Just one observation. The bolt you stated should be tightened to 145nm (paralever to bevel unit), I’m pretty sure that it should be 56nm. Maybe worth checking, I might be wrong. Great video though. Cheers from UK.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your support and time to watch my video , best regards from Texas..!!

[@robmcmillan7192]

Yes, it is 56nm.

[@rickmcleod3157]

Great video - you make it look easy! I would add that one instructional hint would help - that being, you need to keep the shaft lined up so that the u-joint coming off the main drive is in the up and down orientation. Mine was not lined up and it got jammed when i backed it off - it took me quite a while to get it loose.

[@baden-baden]

Thank you so much for your support!

[@janhelgesundt2419]

Hi - nice video and well explained. I used this to service my R1200. You should update the video about the torx setting of the paralever to final drive bolt. It should be 56 NM - not 145…

[@baden-baden]

Thanks , Yes I need to fix that.

[@ybliga]

@@baden-baden you still haven’t done this 2 years on and this is super, super important as many owners will strip their parakeet securing bolt by tightening to 145nm. This is a very bad mistake!!!

[@daithimurphy1832]

Finally someone maintains the front splines.great job very thorough 👍

[@IamthePMofAustralia]

This is great! My GS Rallye done nearly 25k ... I'll be doing this straight after next trip and thereafter every 10k or after serious water/mud rides! Thx.

[@chuckgenaro4373]

good video I did not see any mention of the snap ring on trany side of the drive shaft. As I was cleaning the drive shaft spines i saw the inside dia. had an undercut. I then looked at an exploded view of the assembly and sure enough it showed a snap ring! It gets destroyed at dis assembly. 8$ part at max bmw.

[@donfunk6534]

Thank you! This may be the most professional how-to video I have watched. Background music is calming. I will be doing this soon on my (new to me) 2012 R1200R with 10K on the clock. I doubt this service has been done yet. I'm glad you covered the front of the shaft as well as the rear lube.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your kind a comments!

[@coffeedrinkingbiker9419]

Wow, this is one of the best tutorial I have seen on KZbin!

[@danielver4484]

Very efficient and very clean of doing a great job! Thank you for sharing.

[@chriswarwick1955]

Notice the universal joints are non serviceable with zero grease points ... thankyou BMW .... new driveshaft from BMW Motorworks UK £500 which is fully serviceable with grease points fitted as standard ... mine failed at 70,000 miles and once a year I do a full rear diff and driveshaft service religiously.

[@fernandosereix4945]

I’m surprised that the splines looked completely dry when disassembled and that the U-Joints went back in completely dry. I’d think a good slathering of grease on the u-joints would help prevent corrosion and extend service the service life.

[@on2wheels275]

Awesome video - calm work environment and spotlessly clean. Well done - I like how you don’t gloss over the difficult parts, like re-assembly and getting the shaft to mate all the way to top of transmission spline. Question though, do you need to index the driveshaft to get it in the exact spline position in the shaft. I know years ago when removing a driveshaft of a car the mechanics would make a mark across the output shaft and the driveshaft and then line the driveshaft back into the same spline if you understand my question ? Does it matter to put the driveshaft back on the same spline position at re-assembly?

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your support! Yes, it is better if you can mark the shaft and put it back in the same position, avoiding future vibrations or balance problems. Sorry, I didn't mention that in this video. Best regards!

[@chuckgenaro4373]

@@baden-baden read that too late!!

[@KDFRxpo2]

Getting ready to perform this maintenance on a 2010 GS 1200. This is a great video. Thank you for the direction & advise. GR.

[@arntowe]

Torque, paralever to bevel unit, IS for sure 56Nm. According to the Haynes manual.

[@kubilayylmaz1716]

Hi, today i changed my r nine t gear oil and finaldrive oil and saw swingarm rubber boot cracked i was wondering for replaceing to remove all swingarm but your video show me how to replace without take off all part and go dealer pay lots of money. Thanks for the video.

[@argentum_on_glass]

Originally we use the white waterproof rubber grease to make sure no water enters the swing arm😉 also BMW will replace the cardan axle and final drive on the 60k Service.

[@green89bmw]

A gdzie smar na krzyżaki?? Głównie te miejsca powinno się smarować. Wielowypust według instrukcji powinien pozostać czysty bez smaru.

[@doofwop]

Snap On ratchets, Knipex cutters, & Milwaukee power driver. Good tools man.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks !!

[@valentinloginoff]

Excellent maintenance! Many owners R-series complain about rusty drive shaft, but didn't make that simple service.

[@pstanyer1]

The not so high quality BMW shaft drive. Omg I've seen so many of those falling to bits.

[@sgomez3047]

I think things would be a little easier if you would have raised the wheel assembly up a little (with help if needed). Would help stab the spines on both ends of the front. Not to mention that the shaft would have gone in easier through the housing. Good vid overall

[@dreampipeinternational683]

Hi Brother Good lesson . When time is come definitely i use your video to lube my toy. Thanks

[@jimwms1able]

Thanks. Just finished doing mine front and back. I would have been finished sooner but had a 30 minute tussle with the splines in the back aligning. I finally used a ratchet strap through the hole in the back differential to slowly ratchet it up and then it was easy peasy. Thanks for the video!

[@2dogsstottie]

Nice one mate good job. Keep it up. From the Land of OZ

[@albertobaroni7412]

Finally a really well done video congratulations

[@baden-baden]

Thank you !!

[@DudeGuyWho]

Highest quality training! Well done. Thank you!

[@dgomes265]

Great video Which Molly grease do you use on the splines.

[@brianbonner6634]

Do you need to mark with dot punch or pen exact position splines came off at gearbox or axle, didn't know if it would affect balance of propshaft, thanks

[@baden-baden]

Is highly recommended yes , better to mark it for balance purposes. Thanks

[@tonylittle1370]

What about the C clip on transmission spline? Was it there or not?

[@bartoszri]

Personally I will remove (and put new one) both rubber covers.

[@on2wheels275]

My nickname in college was “little bungee” 😊

[@edwindesert9317]

Great and helpful video, thank you. Just a tiny little remark: you're using a T45 socket on the oil drain plug. Makes sense as it does the job and most people have it in their toolbox. But the actual size is a M7 Ribe socket. A size that hardly anybody has in their toolbox. 😄 This drain plug can be found not only on the GS, but on a wide range of the R and K bikes for the last 20 years or so. Other than that, just keep up the good work.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your helpful comments, great suggestions too. Happy holidays !!

[@sputnik_I]

When is the lubrication service necessary?

[@baden-baden]

All depends in the use , if you are used off road and water crossings frequently, I like to recommend it more often. Thanks

[@stevespatrol]

The advantage of this is?? Does the shaft slide on the splines during suspension travel??

[@Pyrrho_]

Front splines require periodic greasing because otherwise they may seize to the output shaft and then you'll have a difficult time separating them and risk damaging the transmission. The shaft's U-joints will eventually fail and the entire shaft then needs to be replaced.

[@MrRickep1]

Great video, thank you. I also say "there you go" when I get things lined up and threading. Each one is a small victory. Great camera work and technical know how.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your kind words and watching my videos. Greetings!

[@listairgin]

Thanks for a really great tutorial video. Very well explained. What grease is used for the shaft splines?

[@baden-baden]

Thanks for watching. I used full synthetic grease got it at parts store.

[@macr88]

The front splines aren’t nearly as important to do as the rear. The front is locked into place and the rear slips in and out with suspension movement.

[@oliverhuppe2415]

And sometimes the rear doesn‘t slip out because of rust. Then you can feel this on small bumps on the street when something hammers against the gearbox/engine. Then it is time to do the back. Sometimes it is hard to remove the rear because of the rust. Take some rust remover and give it some time. BMW in Germany fixes the rubber in the back with some special sealant (Drei Bond) to get the rubber waterproove.

[@brianhill3603]

Putting the bike in gear helps getting the shaft on the front as well 👍

[@BlackThor15]

I'm saving money to buy 1 like this, which is my dream bike, so every maintenance video you share like this is a must watch and keep! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and well done with the videos!! 👍👍 PS, can you please share what is the spray / brand you use to clean the spline after brushing it? Thank you again!

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your support and patience to watch my videos. Great motorcycles honestly!!

[@baden-baden]

I will send you the link about the cleaner

[@BlackThor15]

@@baden-baden thank you, really appreciated!

[@lanhertpereira8611]

You make it look so easy. Well done and nicely shot video. 👍

[@davea9946]

Think I will stick to chain drive.

[@vinniewalker2129]

great video ... just a tip use a paint brush to apply grease on spline. and a jack to hold final drive can help lifting holding ... etc

[@richardperrenet3475]

Thanx, was looking for this for taking the whole shaft out. Good work / video 👌

[@the14ball]

Way to hide the Yamaha grease! LOL. I won't tell anyone... ;-)

[@baden-baden]

Lol

[@MiamiJato]

how many miles before I do the front part of shaft?.........

[@baden-baden]

I will say , depends if you ride water crossing or every 15k miles. Thx

[@daniellane5483]

Perfect video brother. Great relaxing music, so clean and thorough. Well done 👍

[@GreaseAndGravel]

Wow, it looks like you've done this a few time before. Excellent video!

[@augustinewong7298]

I would like to ask you, if the ABS sensor is remove, will there be any warning?

[@baden-baden]

Hello, no warning at all, just remove the sensor carefully with out getting damage, if in case get stuck, just try to turn back and forward and then pull it. Thanks

[@philipbassett5129]

A useful video, but one thing you might want to check, the torque setting for the bolt securing the torque arm to the final drive hub at 13.29, which you give as 145nm. From what I have been able to find out, I think it’s actually 56nm. I’ve watched other videos and I’ve notice one quotes 100nm and another 60nm. When I looked at a chart on line for the R1250GS, that is what quoted 56nm.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks so much for your comment and yes , I need to fix that part. Thanks for watching!

[@philipbassett5129]

@@baden-baden Don’t take my word for it about it being 56nm though, do your own research, as there seems to be so much different info out there. The website I used seemed to be authentic, but it wasn’t BMWs own site, but it was the best I could find. I do think anything much over 60nm is likely to be too much though. I’d be interested to know when you find out if you agree with 56nm

[@АлексейВерещагин-в1п]

Отличный ролик, все аккуратно сделано, спасибо большое!!! Но почему kluber на гофры не нанёс? 🤔🤔🤔😉😉😉🤣🤣🤣

[@baden-baden]

Я делал, но на видео не показывал, но да, всегда рекомендуется добавлять силиконовую смазку I did , but did not show it on the video, but yes is always recommended to add silicone grease.

[@VinceViews]

@13:30 u say 145nm torque. PLEASE don't do that. It needs just 56nm's.

[@baden-baden]

Thank you

[@VinceViews]

@@baden-badeni just snapped my bolt in half because i was not paying attention and setting my torque wrench to 145nm. I need to go to the dealer tomorrow to get a new bolt.

[@Sanemancured]

Excellent, thank you :)

[@07mickd]

brill vid i am a new owner of a bmw just subscribed cos i am sure i will need it 😁

[@baden-baden]

Great bikes, I own BMW 40 yrs ago and I love it.

[@Mckhuus]

Thanks for the great video. I did the rear splines but the shaft would not come off... it appears to move about 2cm then stops, Very strange but thanks to your video I will try it again and use a bigger Hammer ;-)

[@Robert...]

10:05 Is is better to apply grease between the rubber and the swingarm before you put the rubber in place?

[@dwshin]

Hi, thanks for the video - super imformative. Do you have recommended brands on the different lubricants you use?

[@AB-hx9hs]

Hi, would the 2007 GSA be the same ? Thank you.

[@tomekichiyamamoto2177]

Why don’t you grease the articulations?

[@tomekichiyamamoto2177]

No one grease the articulation of the drive shaft???

[@petrstone4616]

Great video!

[@dysonthomson5909]

I agree the front is important

[@rafael45357]

What do you use to clean the splines and the rubber boots?

[@baden-baden]

To clean the splines I used brake cleaner, and for the boots special lube for rubber water proof. Thanks

[@ethanhudson5439]

Best video on this procedure thank you I look forward to more GS maintenance videos!

[@Ken-ru8et]

Nicely done and now I’ll complete the job myself… thanks for front spline part of the video… brilliant

[@gsrider569]

Really good video!! I usually only see the rear shift spline lubrication. Well done sir and thank you.

[@baden-baden]

Thank you for your comment and support!!

[@charliecaballero6394]

Thank you so much for the info and it’s a huge help for me thanks

[@flyovercounty1427]

Thank you

[@tomlong957]

Excellent presentation

[@Mrtweet81]

Yes

[@othoapproto9603]

Great Job! BMW should do a carbon fiber shaft and housing.

[@johnvaleriewelbers2995]

Thanks for sharing 😎🏍️💨💨💨💨👍🏻🇨🇦

[@kolabuzlu]

Hi. I’ve managed to do these steps successfully. Thanks! My question, is it ok not to slide the shaft exactly the same place (same teeths) where they sit previously? Regards.

[@baden-baden]

Thanks for watching! Not really matters, because the main balance if in case you disassemble the "u" joints, that way lost balance, but in this case nop. Regards..!!

[@donnyo65]

The only video on this that shows the removal of the front drive boot - well done as this is super important to get right!

[@baden-baden]

Thanks a bunch for watching...more videos are coming about 25k Service on a GSA . Thanks again!!

[@mcs5271]

Awesome video, thank you!

[@anthonyfinn948]

Great vid. No messing about. Thanks!

[@baden-baden]

Thanks for your support !

[@Keafearless]

some question for the out put shaft and spline, Is it any sap ring attached there or inside the drive shaft. I saw the part book that has the snap ring on both side.

[@baden-baden]

Hi, In this case, any lock rings at all, honestly not sure if previous models . Thanks for watching!

[@Keafearless]

@@baden-baden Nice VID and sub now., my bike was R1200gsa LC 2016, I just bought it for a month, my problem what both splines were frozen and cannot remove even knock and heat by heat gun on front spline and output shaft. I known that never knock to much on the drive shaft which can be damaged the gearbox bearing. I will decide to cut it off when my last attempt tomorrow. If any recommend or another method to remove it please help to inform. ***This bike was long standstill for 3 year.

[@baden-baden]

@@Keafearless okay, if you have a frozen shaft, I highly recommend applying some pz blast or wd40 , leave it over night and next day heat it up carefully with a torch just the junction shaft, with out damaging other seals or parts of the motorcycle, and then use a hammer or puller , that way you can get it out. Hope that helps, Good luck

[@Keafearless]

@@baden-baden I will try to morrow and will let you know the result.

[@a68war]

Nice and tidy clean work, well done.

[@bryancoombesart]

Great video! Q : Why is it required to drain the FD gear oil to check the spline? It seems like this is a sealed capsule

[@baden-baden]

Great point! , I just drained because do not like spill oil all over ABS , shaft etc

[@PeterBaumgart1a]

Excellent job! But I guess you wouldn't have had to drain the final drive oil? (Unless it was due anyway...)

[@baden-baden]

The only reason I drained it is because whatever you tilt the rear end starts dripping, so I preferred to drained instead to make a mess. Thanks for watching!

[@jerzybaran5190]

:)

[@stevek4449]

Too bad a simple zirk near the shaft to fill the grease like on farm equipment was not built into the shaft and spline to fill it via a grease gun to bypass assembly and disassemble portions of the task.

[@fentontaylor9021]

Excellent, and no cussing!!

[@AndyGSATractor]

BMW done mine on a recall then forget to fill it with diff oil .unless.. Nice handy video thanks

[@baden-baden]

Great service. Thanks for watching!

[@ybliga]

CAUTION CAUTION CAUTION. The paralever securing bolt is not tightened to 145nm. This amount of torque will strip the threads!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@rmaffirb437]

Hello and ty for the videos and making me more convident to do mine, question ? what Grease do you use to lubricate splines and after how many miles u lubricated again ty

[@baden-baden]

Hello, this is it and all depends how often you ride off road water crossings , I like to say every 15k miles. www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Marine-Molybdenum-Disulfide-ACC-MOLDM-GS-05/dp/B085D8KFVC thanks for watching

[@rmaffirb437]

@@baden-baden thanks for the reply

[@smedders]

Nice video, did you use all the oil? 180ml is all you need, that bottle holds 201ml

[@baden-baden]

Thanks for watching! Yes I used the all bottle according the dealer.

[@cozydram1]

Brilliant thank you

[@joeybobbie1]

Great Video. That was the easy way to do it. All the other Videos I see, they are taking the whole Swingarm out. I’m really glad I found your Video. Thanks for making these, it really helps.👍👍😁

[@baden-baden]

Thank you, hope helps !!

[@rv16ad]

should never have to do this,should have been done at the assembly process , very poor effort from BMW , not good enough

[@smartcommerce]

Great Video, Thank you very much. How often do we need to check this shaft's condition. I have a 2018 gs1200 Rally. Yesterday during my oil service, they recognised that some corrosion just started. (My bike is at around 9.000 km) Never rode on rainy conditions. What is the root cause of this problem. Any idea? As I know they put a different brand grease. Thanks again.

[@baden-baden]

Hello and thanks for your comment. If you can every 10k miles if good to check it, but all depends how often you ride . Great motorcycles !!

[@jay26cee]

I need to do my splines too ... so hopefully do not see rust too. I have seen some other vlogs where people have rust, but some don't. I am wondering if this is something at the factory where assembly used a different or insufficient amount of grease. I have seen online - not just GS FD maintenance - where there is a recommendation to use molybdenum disulfide grease as this is particularly good for this type of mechanical application (gears, bearings, CV joints, etc.).

[@kubilayylmaz1716]

staburags nbu 30 ptm grees kullaniyorlar bmw servise sordum ic metal part ve dis bu markayi kullaniyorlar. Ama forumlarda castrol moly paste ta grey olan ic shaft baglanti yerine dis conta lastige staburags yapiyorlar. Karar sizin.

[@playdudeguy7269]

Well done! Very informational!

[@baden-baden]

Thank you very much for your support and time to watch my clips..!!

[@LemonDrizzleGang]

Superb thank you

[@leeng8714]

How often should you do lubrication? After how many km?

[@baden-baden]

All depends how ofen or where you driving your motorcycle, I like to do it this service every 10k miles. Thanks

[@leeng8714]

Thank you!

[@davesmith7748]

I, d be very tempted to tip a cup of engine oil in the shaft housing as I fit the lower rubber boot. Not too much but enough to splash around in there and keep it all oily

[@baden-baden]

Thanks !

[@MrSowrd204]

Thank you for the effort 👍

[@romanbaumgaertner3230]

The connecting screw of the swing arm to the connecting strut (13:30min, Torque is mentioned with 145Nm,! You are joking ,thats wrong, (after very tight, comes very loose) Its only 43 Nm. Btw. to handel the ruber part with srewdriver is cruel. Use some plastic bars and to position the ruber parts sealing isr recommend to use some Lubricants for seals

[@baden-baden]

Sorry, I just fixed. Thanks

[@Trond_Karlsen]

Great video and job! Thx for sharing!

[@akashdinani2055]

Thnx buddy . I am gonna maintain my final drive tomorrow

[@SergioPerez-zl3ko]

I got to the page by coincidence and found that you ride the same group I occasionally ride with in Houston. It is impossible to miss Bruce!

[@baden-baden]

Lol...yeah Bruce is a good rider !

[@danstrausbaugh6430]

Only vid where i saw complete removal of driveshaft ... well done all the other vid are only showing half the job... whoch means i would have only done half the job myself not realizing ... well doneand thanks