BMX Bar Size?! - An Informal Research Study

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@blakemitchell6039 Ай бұрын

i wish bmx bars and stems had angle indicators on them so you can line up a notch to know what angle your bars are at. this is pretty standard for mtb, and id argue its even more important for bmx since our bars are so much taller. a little angle change goes a long way . the bar would just need a crosshair style marking , so it works for both top load and front load stems. the stems can just put a few notches , say center, and then every 5 degrees or so in both directions

@DeuceMS Ай бұрын

At 39 I decided to get another bike. So I did some looking around and picked up the Kink Switch 2025 model. Full cromo, a bit heavy at 28lbs(way lighter than my 38lb bike in my 20's), and the angels are totally different from 2012... Lol So just getting used to it again is enough. But the bike came with Kink F900 9" 4 piece bars and Kink Bold HRD 50mm top load stem. And I actually like the way it feels. I have found myself picking up the front end slightly by accident. But overall, its feels good. Again, 3 sessions on it, so getting used to riding again after 12+ years away. (Wasn't very good to begin with) Thanks as always for doing the hard work Brant. Nice to get a grasp on what is happening in BMX. Also, your videos on the old guys are probably my favorite ones. Nice to see the mid life guys out there getting after it!

@Lykitysplit Ай бұрын

I’m on the same boat. I’m 41 and just got back into it after about 20 years. I got a kink gap xl and I’m looking to sell it and pickup the switch or downside.

@DeuceMS Ай бұрын

@@Lykitysplit I wanted to get the Whip XL, but after looking more into suggested measurements based on height, I went with the 20.75 Switch instead. I really like the way it rides. In my 20s we never looked at height... Lol We just bought what we liked. Now, I look at every detail before putting a part on my wishlist. Awesome to see more people from the mid school era getting back on it. If nothing else, its a pretty good workout.

@Lykitysplit Ай бұрын

@ it’s a great workout. I’m no where near as good as I was. I’ve had a fair share of hard falls. Tried to hit a spine like I never missed a step and ate it. 😂

@DeuceMS Ай бұрын

@@Lykitysplit As long as we are having fun and getting some exercise, worth it!

@bryanw8651 Ай бұрын

@@DeuceMS started at 12 n unfortunately stopped at 37 n basically rode everyday as look as the ground was dry. I still had my bike but no place to ride good street or skate parks. Now i just hit 50 and pieced together a decent bike from a bunch I bought used. I tried the wide bars but i cut them down n still to wide. Height was a problem too. Whatever bars came stock on the 2010 dk r a pretty good fit. Not where i was when i stopped but it feels good to be back on a bike

@griffinbmx1992 Ай бұрын

Im 32, and been riding 7.75 x 25 (5 up 8 back) The Make scapegoat bars (100% not a copy of Animal bob bars;) ) for years

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

I would literally break my back how in the F

@josh1alderete Ай бұрын

Same. best bars

@griffinbmx1992 Ай бұрын

@@josh1alderete 2nd best, bob bars>everything else ;)

@bryanw8651 Ай бұрын

Bob rode the gt 4pc for years and when gt stopped making them animal made his own signature bars.

@GFEBMX Ай бұрын

me too homie the make crew or any other bob scerbo bar my lower back absolutley hates them but can't ride anything else comfortably

@michaelbuddy Ай бұрын

I'm glad you had this conversation with him. Those bars are way too big, but I like the look. I'd like to see a smaller size of them 8.75 high by 26in wide I think is a winner for aesthetics and stil provides a lot of leverage. Sweep should be 3up and 6back I think.

@jbexpertiseconstructionjbe3012 Ай бұрын

Crédence XL (9.25) is fire for me 🔥 For my kid I use old slam bars (8) which is cuts. I have many many parts to try how it feel for us. If your back hurt you or feel too midschool boy: rise stem first, change stem second and change bars third. 🛠️ High and 4P bars are heavier than standard around 9”. 🐘 Frame Headtube angle and Toptube change feeling too your position 🧐

@sepherus Ай бұрын

I tried to match my 2 different bikes up with RAD measurements, the angle are different because one is a tight steep bike and the other is long and slack, but the distance to the bottom bracket from the bars is the same.

@keir108 Ай бұрын

I've been riding since 2002 so I like to my bars cut down to 24 wide and since I started riding they've slowly increase hight from 7.25" upto 8.5" with a odyssey boss v2 stem to lift them up a little higher but it's hard to find taller bars that taller than that which you can cut down to at least 25" plus I do really like the look of those nowear 4pc bars and the box looks nice and narrow

@markfitzurka9995 Ай бұрын

Working with metal most of my life and the measurements are center to center unless specifically told different. How do they measure bars ? I don’t know what size I run and am not running through product. Just curious also depending what time of day you posted the question is also going to change because I don’t get on social media until I am in the tub after 8 west coast time but the young folks probably answer back immediately.😊

@touretteslife Ай бұрын

Cool thanks for representing my 6” Odyssey Barmitzvah flatland bars that I’ve had for over 20 years🩵

@mattskir Ай бұрын

i think the 2 different tire sizes affecting bar height and rider position is an underated topic in bmx. it was common back in the day because frames didn't fit fat tires, but nowadays ppl ride the same size.... maybe freecoaster made that popular... i think it makes the most difference in my personal riding

@x88868 Ай бұрын

I ride 2.5 Merritt Phantoms. Makes my bike taller and comfy.

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

I specifically ride skinnier rears for pivot tricks and fakie tricks cause faster rotation. But in can deffs affect headtube angle and more plus bar height and effective bb height. Pedal body thickness comes in here too. For me 11.8bb plus thin pedals feels better then 11.5 with thick pedals even tho the pedal position is very similar.

@ll_Megu_ll Ай бұрын

i ride the cult AK 10" bars with the cult redemption 22mm stem and a gooseneck amount of spacers just because my fork is so long compared to my head tube

@x88868 Ай бұрын

Nowear 4 piece bar: 9.5" tall 27.5" wide WTP Gooseneck: 48mm reach 35mm rise

@Antigelic Ай бұрын

5.7ft ride 8.8 to 9 rise with 48mm 6 rise stem. I personally would never change my stem geo to fit bars as that throws off so many things imo. Ive always been of the opinion that keeping my stem and fork length the same lets me try out different handlebars with everything else being the same and using that to form my opinion on said handle bar.

@ANewchannel-v1w Ай бұрын

Hey man how did that Tinman hub hold up? I wanna get one but didn't know about an alloy axle. Can they handle grinds and drops? Thanks!

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

I never had a problem with that. Most front hubs have aluminum axles with chromoly bolts. If you can wait, the front Venus is on the way

@ANewchannel-v1w Ай бұрын

Right on man thanks! No kidding? I def thought virtually all axles were chromoly. Is that just fronts or do they make rear hubs that way that aren't race or flatland specific? By the way I'm also an outlier of your survey, I ride 9.25 with FL stems and 8.25 with TLs. Considered super low by today's standards.

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

I was surprised at how many outliers like that there are. The amount of people who ride 8.75 or 8.5 blew my mind. Rear axles are often chromoly. I think all male rear axles are chromoly unless they’re ti. Some female rear axles are aluminum (profile, etc). Most fronts are aluminum and if they’re chromoly it’s used as a selling point. Talking about the internal axle. The bolts are always chromoly unless swapped out for ti

@justinlee3496 Ай бұрын

I ride the odyssey broc raidord bars 9.8 rise with a profile front load

@BillAbel3 Ай бұрын

at 51, bought a subrosa jones from a. guy who put 11" shadow bars on it. they looked huge to me and to everyone who sees it. I have been riding them for nearly a year and now I'm used to them, but I think I would probably like 9.5 or maybe 10 a little better.

@jimjambmx1872 Ай бұрын

With Bmx being in the Olympics now, I’m wondering if investment into Bmx geometry research will eventually become a thing. Imagine an Olympic athlete getting a full body scan and physical to determine the “best” geometry for their body

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

That would be super interesting!! I hope if it happens that the data becomes public for everyone’s benefit

@dennisd4452 Ай бұрын

I have a 9.5" Subrosa bars. They're painted but not where the Knurling is. They have like a dry film that helps keeping the bar in place on the stem. I also use Volume Mad Dog 4-Piece 9.5" on another build. Oddly, they feel like plastic from the design of the 13-butted and heat-treated chromoly tubing. I would encourage everyone to check them out. Brant did a video on them few years ago.

@DEADhands. Ай бұрын

I ride a kink badger bar still. Never bent them so never got new ones. There 8.75 cut down to 28in. With a top load stem Can’t remember the rest of the dimensions.

@iandunn3479 Ай бұрын

I've tried a variety of handlebar sizes. In the end, I'm just back on a set of Slam bars.

@bmxican_azg.1203 Ай бұрын

I ride flatland and i use tangent bars 9” 28 wide, 2up, 6back

@jamesd5415 Ай бұрын

I know this is about bars, but showing that venus hub really makes me want to bite the bullet and buy one. I can't justify buying one just because i really want to try a freecoaster for the first time, but the 22in complete wheel being on sale online is really getting tempting.

@jasonwithers5814 Ай бұрын

5' 9" with 9" bars with 36mm rise stem

@cjwood2407 Ай бұрын

Haha! @Brant_Moore to make it easier for you there is 25.4mm in an inch. We Canadians have to use the m&m measurements, which is annoying but I guess comes in handy to know.

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

I’m just an idiot and floundered in the moment trying to think while also realizing I really didn’t want to have to edit the video. Haha

@cjwood2407 Ай бұрын

Other things people over look for overall bar height is the effect fork crown height has on it as well as headtube length, especially now with the footlong headtubes on so many frames Lol! Also how deep or shallow your lower headset bearing sits in the headtube can make a couple mm difference, then add in bottom bracket height and crank length affecting your stance and how tall you are compared to your bars with your feet on the pedals.

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

Basically…almost everything affects where our bars sit. Haha

@bryanw8651 Ай бұрын

Never got the whole wider bars and slammed seats. People were able to do multiwhips, barspins, or super high jumps with narrow bars and higher seats but one day it was decided its was bad

@thomasburchsted3287 Ай бұрын

I just built a new bike since I started riding again, and I’m running taller bars than I’ve ever run previously. I’m running odyssey broc bars which are 9.8” I believe. I’m 6’ 1”

@403patriot3 Ай бұрын

I’m 5-9, and have slightly above average reach… 9.125’s on EVERYTHING. Seems anything taller than that I lose pop and agility, and everything smaller than 9 just make me feel hunched up. But that’s just me, a 44 year old poser from the mid school

@pauljames1978 Ай бұрын

I’m rocking some 11” rise Shadow Vultus SG Bars cut to 27” wide I’m 6 foot 4” i’ve always had lower back problems from running low rise 7.75 bars from back in the day that’s why I run high rise bars now 🔥👍🚲💨

@CooperBMX Ай бұрын

I ride the Sunday nightshift bars 9.625

@pirate_duck4985 Ай бұрын

I've ridden Bars from 7.5" x 23.5" all the way to 10" x 32" I really thought the gigantic bars would be helpful after my disabilities got worse. If anything it made my riding harder & far worse! These days I have 3 sets of Bars I'm using regularly. 9" x 26" on the Flatland Bike, 9.3" on the Trails Bike & 9.5" on the Street Bike. My biggest issue? Upsweep!! I NEED a minimum of 3° Upsweep. My Bars have 4°, 3° & 5° Upsweep respectfully. Flatland Bars are a tad lower because the geo on the bike is tighter, smaller, faster, etc. Anything over 9" makes things feel squirmy & unstable. But under 9" makes my body hurt. Trails Bike, similar deal. I prefer the little bit taller so I have some extra leverage with the longer CS's. Street Bars, tallest & most Upsweep. Even with shorter Chain Stays, I ride so slowly 😄 Peg chunks, curb nibbler shit so that extra height & upsweep helps with the pull & wrists life!

@kevinbmxrvc99 Ай бұрын

9.9 gt bars

@qpeighty Ай бұрын

As a mid school flatlander I prefer a 4pc bar with 7.25 high x 24 wide minimal sweep front load stem and just enough spacers to make make a detangler work. Larger bars feel like riding a monster truck.

@qpeighty Ай бұрын

Bars I have been riding are KHE Phil Dolan bars(kinda heavy) and Haro Y2K 4pc bars (Stopped making them just before I bought them). Tires Odyssey Frequency G Kevlar bead 1.75 120psi (they were a gift from a friend), but if it were up to me I would get a 1.95 120psi tires. Stem Hoffman Bikes 2007 Uber Stem Front Load on a 2011 Flatware Waltz frame and Zero offset Flatware Forks.

@ianward7376 Ай бұрын

I have 9.6 bsd 4pc Grime bars on one bike and 9.5 bsd 2pc Safari bars on my other bike

@keithrieben8553 Ай бұрын

Fec ti custom 8.75 3 up 3 back only riding flat no street or vert

@ShadLife Ай бұрын

There is little to no information out there on how to properly size a BMX bike. Much of it is trends and much is personal preference. But few people actually know what size frame and bar they should be riding. I ride a 9.5 bar with a Profile Push stem. I also like bars with almost no sweep, so I run Tanget Flatiron race bars on my freestyle bike.

@ChrisRidesBmx Ай бұрын

9.25 cult Dakota roche bars cut to 27 wide

@garystanislawczyk8032 Ай бұрын

I just want narrower bars. 26" wide with space to trim and still run a lever.

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

Very hard to do once bars got above a certain rise. This is why we need longer steerer tubes back and stems with alot of rise.

@3rdWorldNola Ай бұрын

I keep getting higher, on 10s now but might go back down to 9.5.

@HVACMAN-c7v Ай бұрын

I ride 12” 12 step bars I ride my bike to my AA meetings

@odysseybmxboy Ай бұрын

I ride the 12 step bars as well

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

Depends on the set up. Between 8.5 and like 9.2 Og madmax bars were the best. 8.7 wide enough tall enough. Need more rock a stem with like an inch of rise and a fork with a longer steerer.

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

That dude has a point. I run 10 maybe 11 at most backsweep and almost no up sweep like 1.5 at most. Bar options are mad limited. He has even more then I do. AK bars. Buck bars. And a few others are like my only options.

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

25.4mm to an inch. A seat post is an inch diameter.

@403patriot3 Ай бұрын

Side note- The metric conversion is easy (and I’m BAD with math) 10 mm in 1 cm, and it’s 2.2 cm in 1 inch. If my dumb mountain ass has this correct, it’s 22 mm in an inch.

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

I could have that memorized for 15 years and still completely go deer in headlights trying to recall it while recording a video. Haha Everything disappears

@robotbroken Ай бұрын

It is actually 25.4 mm that equal one inch.

@lolstein137 Ай бұрын

I run 9.75 with a frontload and currently eying 9.5 bars

@mead813 Ай бұрын

I ride 10s

@ironthor3471 Ай бұрын

Why not then make a few sizes and what about custom orders

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

Unfortunately it’s just not how it works when the company who does the manufacturing has a production schedule of their own. It could potentially be possible in the future to do something custom within an order but changing things up mid run takes time and in the manufacturing world time is money

@mmbop6457 Ай бұрын

I have 29 inch bars. I could definitely cut them down 3/4 of an inch off each side.

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

What about rise?

@胫 Ай бұрын

i cut my bars down to 27.5 because 29 is way too wide

@bmxriderforlife1234 Ай бұрын

Naaaah you're fine. I'm rocking uncut buck bars which are 29.something

@mmbop6457 Ай бұрын

@@Brant_Moore 9 rise. I love them they just a little to long. It’s the Colony bloody oath bars.

@inzane1260 19 күн бұрын

I find a set of bars I like, than they discontinue them😡

@Brant_Moore 18 күн бұрын

If you know which ones they are you can find another set of bars that match the geometry and they should feel the same

@chance.sk520 Ай бұрын

Make a mid school

@Smokey7186 Ай бұрын

8.5 tall and 28 wide is all u ever need

@x88868 Ай бұрын

9.5 28 here

@1nJimid8tor Ай бұрын

I custom ordered my 9 piece igi ti bars for 9"Rise 27" Width 5 degree backsweep 3 degree upsweep and old school kneesaver style crossbar from 8" bars which seemed to short Stem is a Alienation Vault 53 stem rise. I'm only 5'6" so is comfortable to me. Tend to be a Freestyle & Park rider. Nothing crazy as am a 66 1/2 year old BMX Rider just for some fun so didn't need the heavy duty Bull Bars!

@Brant_Moore Ай бұрын

That’s so sick man!!

@1nJimid8tor Ай бұрын

@Brant_Moore Thank You Brant and all you and Victoria do! You were right on the money as when I changed out my fork for the F25 and steer tube was much taller as didn't cut it down and had to add some 10mm spacers that my 9" inch bars feel even taller! A lot to take in to consideration when choosing height of the bars not just weight and looks! But those NoWear Bars are wicked cool! Love the style!