BNC#5: Ian Cameron Q&A - political showboating, the death penalty & solutions to SA's crime rate

[@tasneembashir4880]

THIS IS MY GUY! Young people need to register to vote so we can make the change for #2024.

[@sheravmaharaj4119]

You are 100%correct In a policeman for 30 years Shot twice on 2 separate incidents in the line of duty The admin lost my docs and I was not treated and reorganized by iod and my family suffers I will still give my life for my country But not for these crooks deployed to command me . You are truly blessed for exposing this and doing gods work Keep it up

[@shelleydavis5231]

Sir, thank you for your service 🙏

[@Maria-il3je]

Ian Cameron is the best! I will vote any day for him for President!! What an intelligent young man.... Well done Ian! We need more people like you in this country!

[@prewgeeq7416]

True, Minister of police

[@khumomolefe5064]

This is the problem with South Africa we just vote for anyone not that he is not deserving but because someone has good ideas we just eat them up we did it with Cyril, Mmusi everyone we need to actually be politically educated great young man though

[@debraolivier2147]

So glad this man is a good guy!

[@juansibold]

With all the knowledge, organizational skills, professionalism and passion that Ian Cameron has, he will be the ideal police minister.

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

Well said indeed. Agree.

[@lowkeyocity6769]

Yes not that black kop

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

@@lowkeyocity6769 Agree however....we can remove the word black as incompetence remains incompetence if you are white black or blue in SA....The Rainbow nation we are as Madiba stated. God bless.

[@camliv78]

True that!

[@petramyburgh506]

FACT!

[@petramyburgh506]

Thank you for interviewing Ian. He is a very committed young man with integrity.

[@magdasmith1421]

What a privilege to listen to someone who actually knows what they are talking about. We need to replace Cele with Ian.

[@errolG68]

Mr Ian Cameron I certainly hope we see a lot more of you! Also thank you so much for all the hard work you and your team do. Kind Regards Errol

[@constancegoosen6024]

Thank you Ian and God, please have mercy on our country, it is falling apart 😢

[@mcebosikhakhane7164]

very good strategies, i would also add incentives for tip offs that leads to conviction, a standard. a lot of these crimes happen in front of community members, they just don't have the moral ground or motivation to report it, it must be done in a smart way because most of the cops are collaborating with the criminals, all off these strategies can ensure a better south africa for our kids because it has already failed us

[@debraolivier2147]

Agree!

[@amandastander.7635]

Ian Cameron of Action Society, 🙏🙏👏👏👍👍♥♥

[@andriesvanniekerk7111]

I agree with Ian 100%. We also and especially need to clean our courts that's infiltrated with corrupt and incomputant judges and lawyers.

[@weymouthesterhuizen1145]

Wow. Interesting. Death penalty....I am one for that however...I have changed my mind based on this as there can be a better way.....when the systems are more trustworthy. God bless all the good work and thank you.

[@claypotts2334]

My father was killed in Grassy Park, by hitmen from Lavender Hill hired by a local cocaine smuggler in order to get access to my grandfather's estate, which was meant for my brothers and I. It has been 2 years and the police know less about the case than I do. RIP DAD.

[@danceswithwolves7085]

All the more reason to vote out the ANC next year

[@debraolivier2147]

So sorry to hear.

[@niconine268]

I'm sorry for your losses

[@LK-bz9sk]

You and your brother are being re victimized by the lack of justice due to the corrupt police apparatus

[@niconine268]

@@LK-bz9sk Precisely

[@brianbayer4868]

A brave young man, thank you Ian don't back down buddy.

[@ChrisCresta-hs8cz]

Thank you for supporting him but dont just tell him not to back down. You also need to do your part and DONT BACK DOWN. WE ALL NEED TO NOT BACK DOWN. Tell your family members friends and everyone you know NOT TO BACK DOWN.

[@gesinaotto]

I applaud your courage, a large part of the population echo those very sentiments.

[@vleiratfilms2020]

Excellent..thank you 🌹🌹

[@veronicakarstel9126]

Ian for minister of police

[@Me-hg7hh]

So spot on about Bheki Cele, very disappointed in Cyril for not reshuffling him. Cele is obsessed with power, meanwhile people are dying on the ground. ANC has blood on its hands. So many people have died while they look away.

[@jedronemos3118]

So there we have a candidate for Minister of Police. Great Strategy.

[@barrystemmet1536]

This guy is good

[@dk.650]

Skills investigations and polygraphs, two key elements that need implementation asap.

[@madeleinedonaldson4422]

Wow make him Minister of Police Yesterday And Helen Zille President 2 very intelligent people well informed and they have actual experience and the will to fix problems 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@kingkhondlo]

Helen Zille HeLL no.

[@itslogical8459]

@@kingkhondlo stick with the corrupted then?

[@kingkhondlo]

@@itslogical8459 There are plenty of other parties besides Zille and ANC

[@joleennaicker3973]

Well done to the metro thank u

[@everettjenkinshowoldareyou6132]

IAN YOU ARE MY NUMBER ONE CHOICE TO REPLACE OUR INCOMPETENT MINISTER OF POLICE I WILL CAST MY VOTE 1000 TIMES IF THEY ALLOW ME GO-GO IAN YOU ARE THE MAN ONE PERSON CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE NELSON MANDELA AND JESUS PROOFED THAT MAY YOU BE THE NEXT NAME WE CAN ADD TO THESE TWO MENTIONED NAME KEEP IT UP BRO YOU ARE A NATIONAL FOLK HERO FOR ALL RACES IN SOUTH AFRICA I AM PROUD OF YOU BRO

[@ARenewedmind]

I totally agree with Ian re Gaynor Mackenzie playing showboat politics. You cannot entrust someone like him with leadership when he has "petty scores" to settle. I am amazed to see how many people think Mr Mackenzie is a worthwhile candidate for leadership. Really??

[@peacefulheart1431]

Mr MC Kenzie concentration is on Helen Zille & the country is burning. I found his plan to rescue SA shallow & not factually thought through. No strategic planning for rebuilding the economy...

[@itslogical8459]

He targets Helen because she can see through his bs agendas just waiting to get his hands on the money like that of the anc. He's already siding up to them to get what. General gangster... reformed, I doubt.

[@marthadiedericks7540]

I agree whole heartedly with Ian. Only a new government will be the solution.

[@ianredelinghuys5320]

During apartheid from Colonel upwards you had to go on a staff course which is designed to put you under pressure and many other concepts for a higher ranking officer. We all know why they took it away.

[@walterwhite5689]

My dad has been a copy for almost 18 years now.In my opinion he's a good cop.He's educated and loves his job.Touching on the skills shortage,he has been overlooked for younger and often female officers who don't even have a half of the experience he has.In KZN,there's a shifting agenda to give position to young black females without even the adequate experience to high ranking positions with SAPS.Its a shame but at least he'll be retiring soon.

[@ChrisCresta-hs8cz]

I know what you mean by its good he will be retiring but its sad. The more that the old school good cops retire the worse SA will become.

[@octaviaselling3151]

Absolutely concur that SAPS upper echelons are captured because how else can over 10K cops have criminal records of rape, fraud, theft etc and only 50 currently under disciplinary procedures?? Crime does pay in Mzansi, sadly at our (law abiding) expense 😢😢

[@ianredelinghuys5320]

A couple of years ago, a white cop in Simonstown was doing a sterling job that transferred him.

[@jackmalan7645]

I have a friend in saps he is a captain and on various times has applied for a higher position, he has very high qualifications but a black lady got the position as a brigadier,my friend is qualified as a advocate but prefers to keep his position in saps, this is shocking he told me her qualifications is like a matric only. 😮

[@laurasharp7955]

Great discussion, by the way who is Ian Cameron?

[@Masibigirigudani]

I don't trust my English but anyway keep up a good work Ian

[@groundhornbill]

So, when are we going to start seeing Cape Town Metro Police stations in the suburbs?

[@cindyleehart1039]

It's sad to hear it's all about Metro Police. The feet on the ground are the Law Enforcement who don't have the specialized treatment that Metro have and yet they put their lives on the line daily in numbers.

[@dawiestrydom8377]

Ian Cameron for minister of police

[@neesaadams9274]

In the police force now it is PIET POLE EN SY MAAT ???? So what can you expect their qualifications ???? is what ?????

[@lucyvanderlee410]

What is worse is judgement and bail.no bail for murderers and rapists. And no power to interfere with theses judgements.

[@natesfilander3423]

i love your views you need to come back for your own segment

[@francvancanvas]

ANC deliberatly put EFF on pedestal for taking credit in reduced loadshedding. Maybe footing for a coaltion or a take-over of the brand. ANC brand now worthless

[@marcone123ish]

They are joined at the hip. All eyes were on EFF on Monday which just made this the biggest distraction ever. I think someone of interest, with an entourage entered the country.

[@francvancanvas]

@@marcone123ish Yeah, you might just be right. Big international meetings coming up.

[@movo786]

We should not have a minister of police, government should have 0 influence on saps.

[@marcone123ish]

I recall Gaten McKenzie stating that one should not vote for him but the FF+

[@goodbarbenie5477]

A Socialist Regime doesn't like to see people educated, because educated people are empowered. I.e. Have the power of knowledge in their hands to progress...So it boils down to this. Those who are well educated will take back their power. This brings fear into the ruling parties. Because if U ignorant and depressed U will be a good voter for the party in power. To give U an example. Many years ago I was living in Rhodesia and when Mugabe came to power my neighbour's garden boy over night became the chief minister of police... Hah. This is how a Marxist/Socialist state functions...everything and everyone remains captured... This unfortunately is no brainer...hah

[@robertmclaggan4021]

Are all these revelations going to make a difference? Corruption is endemic across Africa. SA is not unique

[@michaelnuttall5896]

If it was up to me, I would recruit massively from the gangs and pay them well. Over 10 years weed out the weaklings and drug kops. There's your police force suited for South Africa in 2023.

[@wynandjacobs6680]

why not just get rid of sapsa and just allow jmpd totake over if that how bad the saps is scrap the saps

[@ianlawrie]

A lot of focus is on the Western Cape and the policing thereof. We don't all have the " privilege" of living there. Are the rest of us just being left to our own devices. Seems that way.

[@magdasmith1421]

That's the reason we should vote DA. Get rid of ANC MAFIA.

[@natesfilander3423]

sir the song is nothing about that ask why then you will understand

[@hoffmanmervinhoffman]

that's show true about our brown general. But to same of he has to leave the police and on the western cape D A are given people the opportunity in wellington to establish drug hotels

[@maryjooste6161]

How cld a gangster figth a other gangster

[@carolmcgaghey6112]

Ian you should use truth serum on these buggers

[@Moyopheus]

Ian devolution is not the answer. Perhaps because you live in the Western Cape where it's nicer devolution could mean complete autonomy from an ANV govt in all respects. However I do not trust that narrative. This sounds a lot like the idea of Wexit. Where the Western Cape becomes a country unto itself. This country has a deep history of segregation and racial oppression and to open that wound again is to be completely oblivious to the recent past many people have lived through. Now, you say the Western cape is great and you laid the K9 unit etc and say how professional the cops are there. If that were true Bheki Cele as wouldn't be there ina public hall discussing the issues those women are going through. Cape Town is a murder capital. It's gang infested. The police are unprofessional, I was abused by a police officer inside the Cape Town police cells in Buitenkant by a policeman that pepper sprayed me inside the cells. That's not professional at all. The cops are rotten to the core and it requires a complete overhaul, removal of its Generals and a new crop come in who deal decisively with these gangster's. There need to be political will indeed. Simply devolving will only localise the issue even further. Bring in a top cop from Gauteng to handle the drugs and gangs so they have no vested interest and can't be corrupted. Pay the police more , that stops these bribes they are taking, arrests must be made public in a public registry so there's less catch and release bullshit. We need to be more creative than simply say devolve everything. What about those who live in Gauteng, Limpopo, do we not care about them too?

[@danceswithwolves7085]

A number of good points but paying cops more doesnt guarantee that they wont take bribes, its a gamble that might go horribly wrong.

[@Moyopheus]

@@danceswithwolves7085 I think for people who get shit and killed everyday and put themselves in the line of danger and into the register of criminals they need to be paid a decent amount of money so they can easily buy themselves a house, get a car and send their kids to school. I've seen the payslips of tenured police men and women. They are paid very little. In 2017 or so this figure was about 15k. That's less than a sales person fresh out of varsity in a call center. I'm tired of paying people for a cooldrink and a gift Rand here and there. It can't be that their corruption takings are more than their job. They clearly don't see the risk of losing a decent paying job for some bribe money. If they were paid different they would behave differently. This is an economic argument akin to saying that an educated person is less likely to commit crime because of the opportunity they have than one who isn't educated.

[@Moyopheus]

@@danceswithwolves7085 It's also not the only thing I'm suggesting, you have to do all things simultaneously and have a professional police service. One way to do this is to take people in from private security companies who already have the skills the know how and training. Some kind of public private partnership will be required here and a few laws will need to change to give SOME teeth to private security, especially in the instance that a crime has just taken place. They are often there at the scene before the police.

[@danceswithwolves7085]

@@stanphipps1650 thats a short term solution to long term problem

[@Firstnation-mr7ey]

You just had to paint Gayton as a criminal,what about ex criminal or rehabilitated criminal.Do you call someone who was a drug addict 20 years ago,a drug addict.Always thought you were a neutral observer, clearly not

[@johnd1774]

I got warned my bussiness would get robbed so a couple of sap detectives hid in my bussiness nothing happens 2 weeks later gang leader walks in casually laughinhly says I heard the cops where waiting for us. So these sap detectives had already tipped him off we are waiting for you

[@shelleydavis5231]

😮

[@randaloctober6929]

Do you know Cameron in Apartheid the borders was closed, when democracy open 1994, the borders is open, what did you expect what is going to happen, what i don't understand there is an organization that have killed all drug dealers from 1995, which i find very peculiar, because it was all South Africans, suddenly a new drug arise in South Africa called tick and ungar a new drug that surface between the children, I think Cameron you confuse about laws, order and technology.

[@quakesquakes618]

Alec and this guy are completely against Gayton and they are gossiping when he is not here, why not debate the man?

[@magdasmith1421]

Gayton is in it for himself. They're not gossiping.

[@itslogical8459]

You are so wrong. Your beloved Gayton has been on Biz news a few times 🙄

[@quakesquakes618]

Are you mad how can Gayton be in it for himself if he is not even taking a salary of he rejected the 200million Rob hersov offered him , don't talk nonsense man. As we speak he is building a hub worth 4.5billion with not a cent from the tax payers money, you are just bitter DA voters, 2024 we will show you how it's done. You lost your base of coloured people in the western cape Under useless Hellen you have under 10 municipalities and you used to have 26

[@quakesquakes618]

@ Magda Smith let them debate the man and not gossip like two aunties.

[@randaloctober6929]

You know Cameron you talk so big, you discriminate about South Africa system so much, why don't you focus on import drug dealers and terrorist networks, in the western cape, which coming from different countries. Then you will reduce crime.

[@gstar3569]

... with the NPA, Crime Intelligence and the rest captured, do we really want the death penalty in those hands?

[@randaloctober6929]

Do you now Cameron, next to my office is highly drug dealers, they not from South Africa, they operated, under your radius, you talk so big but focus on wrong criminals.

[@marluvanaardt8909]

We need 40 days and 40 nights rain.

[@davidverster9523]

Garden boys they ..the ANC..will remain