Boat Sinking

The plaintiffs purchased a boat from the defendant, but as soon as they put it in the water, it sank. The plaintiffs are suing for a refund. The defendant says the plaintiffs purchased the boat without putting it in the water first or testing it out. The boat was in great condition before he sold it, according to the defendant.
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[@NoemiV]

Defendant is just chilling on the other side, so collected and calm.

[@ReaperKid-od7rw]

Yeah, he knew he was gonna win😂lol.

[@LeviAaronx]

I’d be too if I were in the right

[@ReaperKid-od7rw]

@@LeviAaronx exactly, same here 😂

[@christibarrick1768]

Instantly disliked his smug attitude

[@Degorff]

The mechanic stated they hit rocks. Not it hit rocks before it was sold but from this ride. The boys damaged the boat it is clear.

[@baalzimaanegwenesedai1713]

As is is as is! B.O.A.T. stands for: "bust out another thousand"

[@16MedicRN]

Been a long time since I heard that 😂

[@Rantsack]

The plaintiff was so excited about getting the boat. He automatically think he’s a boat mechanic and his friends as well

[@danielhurst8863]

So, they purchased an As-Is boat, and literally didn't even bother do to a pre-inspection before putting it in the water, much less all the maintenance that is required on a boat that has been winterized.

[@jvillebil13]

Plaintiff, "My daddy will get my money back" LOL

[@phylisswright4847]

I hear ya. By all means necessary.

[@LeeoGoneWild]

No, this gave me the opposite vibes, “my dad told me to sue him, I didn’t even want to be here.”

[@marleonetti7]

daddy tried to play it off when he told doug that he was just trying to teach his son how the court and law works instead of just admitting the embarrassing truth that even at his old age he still could not see that an AS IS sale will cause him a guaranteed loss in court .

[@deemcgriff4196]

😂😂😂

[@TooLooze]

He should have brought daddy with him when he bought it.

[@dominicanbutterfly8620]

😂😂😂

[@finalboss8514]

she read out the mechanic report and it stated there was damage from hitting rocks, plus they never brought it to a mechanic until after they put it in the water a full week after buying an as-is product from a private seller.

[@gemcee1111]

I would totally buy a shirt with Doug's face on it saying "Sorry 'bout that"

[@deemcgriff4196]

😆😆😆

[@3l3llala13]

They were on a boat that was sinking and JM wondered why no one took out his phone to video it ? LOL. How many times have we criticize "idiots" for filming a disaster occurring instead of getting the heck to safety ? The father seems nice and supportive of his son.

[@callmeonkeshiasphone]

it wasnt sinking that fast, everyone wasnt driving

[@mialaoyinyoutube1455]

#drowning#glug,glug,glu

[@BREEZYM6015]

It's the case of "You're supposed to float my boat, not sink it". 😂

[@essflem]

To be young and rich.

[@elainevankat5353]

Must be nice!

[@Jade-902]

Rich? 😂

[@stratfordbaby]

Young, dumb and full of...

[@sweet2sunshine]

Idk if 2,300 is rich... people get cars and motorcycles for that too

[@robertk4629]

Rich Who?

[@fredoverbeck8841]

The mechanic report stated physical damage, and the rubber bellow looks torn and worn out. I think they hit something underwater that caused the damage.

[@markbrandon7359]

To hit something and have it damage parts inside the hull the rock would have to tear through the hull

[@Hazel.Eyed.Gemini]

@@markbrandon7359and that type of damage would have been noticeable on a walk around

[@manilkasheran2934]

Didn't they asy "Exhaust bellows" so aren't they typically placed outside the hull?

[@finalboss8514]

it was the exhaust bellows and the mechanic stated that damage was caused by striking a rock. the mechanic did fail to state that the whole shop laughed at the idiot who bought an old boat and didn't get it checked out until after he had it in the water. every boat owner I know gets it inspected and repaired each season before they take it out but don't bother after the last use, because there's no reason to do maintenance before it sits unused for 2/3-3/4 of the year since you'll be doing it regardless at the start of the following season

[@son_of_a_gun215]

The boat is in storage at the marina! I bet they don't know what a broke day is like.

[@PoodleHead2005]

I would’ve called this the case of “Landlubber? He hardly knew her.” 😂😂😂

[@Crob100]

😂😂😂

[@BREEZYM6015]

That ship was sunk as soon as he said "I do". 😂

[@carliemichelle3110]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@doogyob]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

Motorboat her? I hardly knew her 💀

[@runningawayvagabond5876]

Definitely get the impression that the defendant sold them a boat with issues and is using the 'ran great when parked' excuse. Having said that, the plaintiff/plaintiff's went out of their way to buy that thing as wrong as they could. No inspection, no test drive, no getting in writing it's seaworthy-ness, etc... Seriously, that boat was what, 25 years old and in their infinite wisdom they just plopped it into the water and were ready to go? It doesn't work that way.

[@EChristian329]

Right. It’s still a good price to invest another $1000 to make sure it’s safe on the water. 😂 But at the very least test the thing on the water!

[@16MedicRN]

​@@EChristian329agreed. One would know more work was needed.

[@barbaraness4507]

7:48 It said right in the repair report that the drive shaft was torn, and the boat “likely hit rocks “!!!

[@doogyob]

Regardless of the outcome, I’m not entirely convinced the defendant is telling the truth when he says he had no idea the boat was unsound. But, as they say, “it is what it is”. At the end of the day, they didn’t test it in the water or have it inspected, and they couldn’t prove the defendant was fraudulent about anything.

[@markbrandon7359]

$1900 is dang cheap for that boat seems to have a nice trailer that's worth a few pennies right there

[@backroom12]

Buyer beware . Seller has no responsibility to refund them .

[@keeper6458]

The mom's face in the background 😂😂😂😂

[@LoayMatar]

"I got the impression it's at the bottom of the ocean" 😂

[@LOADING...o.o.o]

LOL. He is so witty. I like him. He always has funny comments.

[@bjohnson1149]

Here we go again. Buyer BEWARE! As is means as is! My dad always told me that the best lesson is a bought lesson. This young man bought one.

[@Degorff]

The mechanic stated they hit rocks. Not it hit rocks before it was sold but from this ride. The boys damaged the boat it is clear.

[@dawnhammons4457]

Did he put the plug in the boat??? LOL

[@tkdjoey85]

As a boat owner, I'm sure they forgot to put the plug in

[@WOJOWNIK77]

OMFG 🤣🤣🤣 You made me laugh SO hard I spit my gum out on my Mac 😂😂😂 thank you!!! 💖💖💖

[@harriotteworthington3147]

Yup

[@nicooteiza938]

I thought the same lol

[@xyztrade]

As a boat owner, I would definitely disagree with you. With that size a hole in the Bellows when the boat was sitting in the water, the water would've came right through the Bellows into the engine compartment, and then ultimately flooding the boat.

[@davidperez5089]

Buttplug?😂

[@JeremyMattingly-db3ck]

Boat: Bring on another thousand

[@truth8508]

This should have been over in 10 seconds. As is sale stands on it's own. There are no warranties when you buy privately. Absurd discussion.

[@ReaperKid-od7rw]

As is sale😂🤷. You buy it in the condition that it's in, especially if it's a used item

[@karensmith6815]

Not the bottom of d ocean lmaoooo I hate Doug😭😭😭

[@Ty-bz7zx]

Guy more than likely forgot the drain plugs or incorrectly installed em...and it sunk =)))

[@darrylnelson05]

"As Is"

[@Lovely_AngeeeL]

Somebody bought a boat ( 15 m long ) long time ago from me and my ex husband, they asked for a test drive That is the correct way to do. Aaaaaalways ❤ All engine products, must always get test it before you purchase it.

[@kirkmo1666]

Never buy a boat out of the water even brand new.

[@PlugJh]

Only two good days when owing a boat! The day you buy it, and the day you sell it!! Nothing but money pits

[@quitifa]

People hating on the plaintiffs for buying without testing but based on the defendants chat at the end… he absolutely knew it wasn’t ready for the water

[@portlandgirlx0x096]

They got the boat at 5:00am! They had ALL DAY to test out the boat!🚤

[@Mocharocks9966]

Defendants face when plaintiffs letter said the boat possibly hit rocks

[@zaymathew8203]

The case of “This boat don’t float” made me chicken chuckle lol

[@frankiejackson4960]

Do i believe the defendant? No. But the kid was to eager to be separated from his money for a party boat.

[@LeviAaronx]

Touching himself nervously when recounting what the defendant said about the boat hmm idk

[@davidperez5089]

Buyer beware! A boat? Don't you dare!!

[@madmaxofspokane1691]

The Plaintiff knows nothing about boats. And I don't know why the judge didn't tell the Plaintiff to take his hands out of his pockets. Not pocket pool during court junior. 😉🐌🐌👽👽👽

[@WayneReiman]

Bet the binge plug wasn't put Ian before they put it in the water

[@msfranklin2650]

I WONDER @ TIMES THESE FOLKS GOTTA KNOW THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A CASE PRIOR TO APPEARING ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. AS IS SALE IS THE DEFAULT POSITION. COME ON THEN THE FATHER IS MAKING EXCUSES & SAYING SHIT THAT JUST ISN'T TRUE. THAT'S WHY JR HAS THAT NONCHALANT PRIVILEGED ATTITUDE. SMH THE DEFENDANT SHOULD'VE RECIEVED SOMETHING FOR WASTING HIS TIME

[@thefonzkiss]

Why did he bring his mommy?

[@dapperguy0798]

Why not, his daddy was there!

[@trander2293]

Just from the defendants conversation with Doug, he knew the boat was broke.

[@Micknkeithable]

You got a 25 year old boat at a great cheap price. Go put some money into it and move on. Next time, go test drive it

[@Amanita-Minute53]

This is like buying a used car without driving it and then complaining when it breaks down.

[@Djkommode]

You can say the same thing with new cars

[@Dapperbugbear]

The defendant's son is amazing. He has the ability to slur an entire paragraph into one phrase. WTF

[@DonziGT230]

The bellows last many years, that one looks ancient. Nobody replaces them every year. Too bad he didn't get the boat shop to write the words he needed, I would have gotten their money back for them.

[@davidpurvee9225]

Agreed, that seller was a liar.

[@trander2293]

Test driving a boat is hard, especially if body of water is more than an hour away

[@ZovaBe]

If test driving is too inconvenient for you then don't complain when it doesn't work after you buy it

[@kellismith4329]

All the more reason to just rent a boat when you get there

[@trander2293]

@@ZovaBe I'm not complaining, I'm just saying it's hard. I've had two boats, didn't test drive either of them because our closest lake is 2 hours away. But I was lucky and there was no problems with either.

[@davidpurvee9225]

​@trander2293 I agree, I've sold boats, once out of state to a guy on the other side of the country. But I was honest and trustworthy. Even called the guy to discuss how to winterize and do other maintenance. It's a shame people lie like I'm sure the seller did in this case!

[@trander2293]

@@davidpurvee9225 yeah ... Both we ran wirh the bunny ears and we inspected the engine and the hull and pertinent systems and they both work out great. Still have the second one . For 20 yrs. she still runs good.

[@shanimorrison8730]

Why didn't he take his father with him when he 1st bought the boat

[@cobravids]

I was thinking that too. They forgot to plug the bung. Lol. When my dad bought his first boat i drove the trailer away and noticed him waiving frantically in the mirror. I stopped then heard him yelling come back. We reloaded the boat, drained water and mever forgot that plug again. Lesson learned.

[@anthonyslazas6413]

The plaintiff doesn't have a case, should have put boat in the water before he bought it. Should be an AS-IS sale could be wrong.

[@laurielester9437]

Did he say the seals were on crack? Lol 😂

[@kyleensixtysix]

When you see something "as-is" you know there is something wrong with it. So you make it your mission, to figure out what that is and if the repair still makes the deal good enough. (and buy a warranty when you purchase a used car or something - I always buy a warranty, a bit pricy, but ultimately will save you a lot of grief.)

[@mountaingirl6479]

Why do people buy cars and boats “as is“ and still think there’s some type of warranty or the right to return it? “He said it runs good” is not proof of anything. Sellers can say whatever they want.- doesn’t make it true.

[@Djkommode]

Not all as is purchases are final purchases…. The judge said if his mechanic could prove the defendant is lying he would have won. False advertisement still exists. 👍

[@mountaingirl6479]

@@Djkommode. Yes fraud is a rare situation but it can happen

[@leofredette19]

They hit the rocks,

[@The_Real_Mier]

My daughter would have told me to stay at the side if she would have been in such a situation, instead of taking ‘pole position’,like the Dad did here. She would gladly accept any help upfront and have me nearby, but she is independent and confident enough to do a hearing like this by herself! Her strength is one of the many, many things that make me so PROUD of her!! Plaintiff is 19 years old, so he should have done this himself. Now he just looks like a ‘Daddy’s Boy’. Pretty sad actually…

[@jimsix9929]

A bellows for exhaust can blow out because of an engine backfire that is the most likely thing here, usually caused by someone not using proper starting procedure the plaintiff has no case, backfires will happen on startup if the fuel is not primed right

[@miguelus.81]

Moe, Curly and Larry. Lol...

[@14kchang]

It's your funeral dude.

[@amimeow]

Tbh having watched People's Court from the early 2000, as soon as "as is" was mentioned, I knew the plantiff was prob gonna lose.

[@nunya8010]

How did you not think to video a sinking boat your in,did you have something more important to do than videoing your boat sinking, what like surviving

[@fjccommish]

4:20 "...the first one sank before I got it into the water."

[@adventuresconjuan]

His so young and cute but very naive ….

[@scooneil]

Dad doesn't like to let the kid speak for himself. Shame, too, because (based on the petulant face the kid was making after the verdict) I bet Doug could have gotten an all-time best reaction of of the kid in the exit interview.

[@xyztrade]

As a boat owner, I would definitely disagree with the plug being left out. Could be but . With that size a hole in the Bellows when the boat was sitting in the water, the water would've came right through the Bellows into the engine compartment, and then ultimately flooding the boat.

[@calvinthedestroyer]

But then why didn't the mechanic say that in their report?

[@xyztrade]

@@calvinthedestroyer. The mechanic failed to see a lot of things in the report. It was very ambiguous. Starting number one looking at those Bellows from the photo they look like they were pretty dry rotted. They don’t don’t look like they were put on a year prior. Number one and the mechanic never said anything about that. So why would he say, anything we can see that the hole was in the Bellows. I don’t think we need a mechanic to say if there’s a flat tire when it’s completely obvious. Durrr

[@Rendosian]

Defendant can sell me a boat any time…

[@Patriot-1]

On the seller’s agreement, or the sales receipt, given to the buyer -should- be stated that the sale is ---> "AS IS" The buyer then as no recourse if there are problems with the sale -

[@ericeiber4911]

Plug , get ya every time!

[@guccilady1017]

“You know how much money a boat that sinks is worth?” “ nothing” The titanic 😳

[@JohnnyMac04]

Boats are the worst investments

[@williammartin5569]

I don’t believe the defendant didn’t know that boat was taking on water .

[@Goose00123]

Damn near defendant ever

[@mountaingirl6479]

Buying used is all we do. But we ALWAYS have a mechanic check it out and prefer to buy from someone we know so we know the history of the vehicle including how well they have maintained it. Also you can buy from a reputable place that provides a temporary warranty on a used vehicle

[@AlessandroCalzaStudio]

The apple 🍎 doesn't fall far from the tree 🌴

[@Julie-sl8ul]

The defendant is eerie looking.

[@Degorff]

Bought a boat and found sunken treasure.

[@danir6695]

As-is cases are boring 🥱

[@crystalshaw8744]

Agreed.

[@stratfordbaby]

The son is so smug. Was annoying me as soon as he walked in.

[@kellismith4329]

But he signed an “as is” bill of sale

[@mexicanspec]

If he spent the $1000 for the repairs he would have had a good solid boat for $2900.00 which is very cheap.

[@ayanaatthrivebewhole]

I understand that as is laws are different than buying regular things. But it seems really messed up that something that could cause injury and death, doesn't have the same return policy as a regular thing at a store. If you buy defective item at a store, they have to give you your money back and accept that and back. If you buy a defective item that's used, and it's as is, you don't get your money back at all. Doesn't make any sense their lives were in danger too.

[@siempreseagull2]

A boat- a hole in the water into which you pour money.

[@jimsix9929]

the plaintiff does not know about boats, if have been out of water for a long time always put it in the water slowly while it is still on the trailer, leaks are common after a winter storage probably just needed a 20 dollar seal no need to sink the boat, just stupid, always get in the boat and look for leaks while a friend backs it in slowly that way you can pull it back out if water comes in

[@sconiersclan]

He bought a damaged boat and sold it damaged is what I’m getting. Buyer beware

[@contessahinson]

That's a good deal .....1900 plus 1000 in repairs

[@cynthiacler9284]

Does anything from Craigslist ever turn out as a good deal....NO

[@HHH-ye1ro]

The voiceover at the beginning tells the whole story. As-is purchase.

[@JuliaJacksons]

I don’t believe the seller didn’t know lol it’s literally why he selling it prob

[@christopherramon-reid2000]

His voice was changing all through the case

[@twczzkm]

2k boat! Must be some kind of inflatable skiff.

[@davidpurvee9225]

Look, i understand everyone blaming the kid for not testing it, but that dude completely lied and ripped the kid off! Bellows are not a maintenance issue, they don't need to be replaced annually. The other dude very specifically said in his ad that he would start it with muffs but clearly didn't want to put it in water because he knew it would take on water. His ad went on and on about how good the boat was then added as is at the very end. He is a liar and cheat. That being said, the judge ruled correctly given the evidence presented.

[@glenncurley680]

I grew up on the lake, my parents loved their boating. Every time they got a bigger one. They can suck the finances out of you. Our last one was a 36 foot Christ Caft.

[@kinguponarrival8237]

Red flag should’ve been. Defendant did all the repairs to the boat himself. Most purchases like this would include repair shop receipts, to provide reassurance to the potential new owner

[@coreythompson315]

The defendant ripped them off royally and got away with it.

[@danielmoore8226]

No different than buying a car...if you don't test drive it, you're out of luck...the plaintiff was an idiot not testing it, or at leadt have a mechanic look at it.

[@Nadine-bv3jm]

Bellows could have torn by rough treatment.

[@LeviAaronx]

He’s very handsome. But not well 💡 upstairs

[@artistjoh]

I personally think the defendant is shifty, and knew there were problems which is why he was trying to unload it. However, the buyer was too stupid to test, and too eager to purchase so legally, the defendant prevailed. But while unprovable, I strongly suspect he knew all about that that bellows damage. Hopefully, next time, the kid knows never to trust a seller, even the honest ones, and thoroughly check out the item.