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[@MrMgoose]

Great design! How about switching the sink and the fridge to opposite sides? To get a clean work area next to the nook. Also easier piping for the sink

[@Ross_MC]

Also no tap/faucet to accidentally grab onto... :)

[@sanbornify]

great suggestion. C&C 35 style

[@TVMcaffee]

Also gives them room for both fridge and freezer instead of just the one. The hole where they showed possible freezer location can be used for coffee maker on top. Still they idea of putting a cutting board to cover the sink even in that location makes 101% sense.

[@joestrong2862]

I'd be concerned about the Faucet and Drain that close to the Electric Engine - No leaks is always the plan but... electricity and water...

[@joycebrown2262]

my sink back up to the "nook" and I frequently unintentionally spray the cushions in the nook. I would choose to flip the sink and counter space. Either way I am sure you guys will create an amazing space!😊

[@phyioa]

This looks awesome. I am so exited to watch it become reality. But one question: why not switch sink and counter side? To me this has several advantages: 1. You can re-use your existing faucet. 2. You would probably have enough space for whatever fridge/freezer installation you would like (by the way, I would suggest drawers instead of a standing fridge/freezer). 3. You could design the perfect removable storage space under the sink and in front/on top of your electrical motor (removable of course for access to the motor). 4. You wouldn't need some fancy in-folding faucet (as it already folds to your wall) and covering the sink for more workspace becomes easy. Also there would not be come faucet somehow in the middle of the room on which someone could get hooked ore something. 5. Extending work space from the nook into the galley becomes even more convenient with the counter and potentially less dirty/wet with the wet stuff on the side most distant to the nook. 6. Placing drinks, cups, etc. inside the sink from within the cockpit and vice versa becomes really easy. I am really curious what you're reasons would be to do it as you presented? Maybe I am missing something? Or maybe 3 does not allow for enough access space with the sink there!? I would be thrilled if you would answer this here or maybe in the next video. 🙂 I wish you all the best and good progress in making your dream UMA become reality!

[@benforman5284]

I am glad you listed out the same things I thought. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people always congregate around the kitchen counter island or peninsula.

[@kevinschreur2950]

I also agree. Our boat had a very similar layout to what they are designing. The sink was in the corner by the stove, which left counter space left of the sink around to the refrigerator and the counter for the peninsula. We only had a cooktop but there was room if I had wanted to replace it with a stove. I think anything that can make a mess (cooktop splatter, splash from the sink) should be away from any other part of the living area.

[@stevewolf3842]

It's exciting to have a front row seat for this redesign project. As a sailor with many ocean miles and a similar boat, it seems you're going in a very good direction -- but (of course)I do have some suggestions to consider for the design based on our experience. Our boat is an 1967 Ohlson 41. Her hull shape is similar to Uma, but a bit more overhang and a bit narrower for her length, so in general the usable shape and space is quite similar. Although the hull was designed by Ohlson, the interior was designed for the original owner by Alan Gurney, and he had some ideas which have stood the test of time. Other things, we've modified to suit a sailing couple. A couple of the original designs which we retain, and recommend: 1. Wet cubbies. Our boat was designed as what was common in its day - a race-cruiser, It could (and did) carry a crew of 6 on Bermuda races. Crew wet foulies were rolled up and placed in cubbies just inside of the companionway. There were originally 12 (6 each port and starboard), aft facing openings, each cubby opening about 8" square and each cubby about 20" deep. We removed the starboard set, and widened the quarter berth into a double, but retained the port ones. In 40 years and many ocean crossings we've never had a reason to question cubbies vs. hanging locker for foul weather gear, life vests, and harnesses. If the gear is dry...great. If it's wet, it isn't going to dry in a hanging locker, but it will get everybody else's gear wet. Foulies roll up very compactly and fit nicely in the cubby, and hanging lockers are horribly space hogs. Cubbies do, however, need to be facing fore or aft. We have a top-loading boot locker below the cubbies, and that works nicely as well. 2. Athwartships head. Our head extends entirely across the boat. It's enormous, of course, with the entire floor functioning as a shower pan, with a drainage channel on the aft edge. The walkway is off-center; on the port side is the sink and head (which has a strong SST grab bar alongside to starboard), with various lockers outboard, and on the other side is a hanging locker, small shelf, numerous storage cubbies, lockers, etc. The entire central section is used as a shower, and although you could have a curtain, we don't bother and haven't had any problem with errant spray on the furniture (which is all varnished mahogany). One generally showers with a "telephone" sprayer which is pretty easy to control. There are potential privacy issues when friends are aboard, but a bit of common courtesy (e.g. ask before entering) avoids embarrassment. 3. Corner posts in the Galley. This is such a silly no-brainer, yet it's almost never seen. Each inboard corner of the galley has a post extending from the counter corner to the overhead. When moving around below these are grabbed often enough to require re-varnishing on occasion - but they are incredibly handy for avoiding a fall during a "lurch". We tend to jump down our companionway, grab a post, and spin around it... and we're both now 75! 4. Full length grab rails: Our boat has a steel hull and wood deck, with deck beams. the deck beams project about an inch beyond the cabin sides, and a mahogany rail extends the entire length of the cabin attached to these beam extension. That particular approach wouldn't work, of course, on a fiberglass boat, but there are many similar approaches to creating a continuous grab rail both port and starboard. Like the posts in the galley, we rely on these...a lot. In particularly rough weather it seems like we move forward while hanging from these things like a jungle gym. The aforementioned are a few of the 55 year old innovations we have never had reason to question. One other thing to mention, though, is your new quarter berth. Since it will now be extending much farther toward the centerline, and somewhat lower, you probably have room for a cozy double. When we removed the aforementioned cubbies we lowered and widened our starboard QB, and it served as our in-port double for a five year 30,000 mile cruise. We were younger, of course - and converted our forepeak to a garage, so we didn't have a lot of choice, but it worked fine. I hope these comments may be helpful in thinking through the details of your design. I'd be happy to send along a picture or two if you'd let me know how to do so.

[@ghost307]

I think the wall for the 'guest stateroom' should not be full height. Leaving a gap above would make the overall space feel more open, and you could put a shelf above the 'stateroom' for quick access to PFDs and such.

[@umrswimr]

The full-height foul-weather locker significantly reduces the open sightline space in the boat. I understand the objective- to create a guest space and keep the foul-weather gear close to the companionway, but... That's a pretty significant compromise for what percentage of time being used?

[@paulas_lens]

During their Norway exploration it was daily. Maybe a "transome" like window up on top that could be opened or closed to trap heat or allow air flowage would be better than storage.

[@philherb3843]

I think you are right - it will be a compromise. If it is not at full height, it won't be a seperate space. If it is at full height, it tightens the space of the "living room". So maybe the top could be clear acryl or have a window next to the doorway. So guests can have a screen there, but on passage one can see each other.

[@kennethpole2439]

Your blend of design inventiveness and experience-based practicality continues to impress. Many "yacht designers", someof whom clearly have never been so sea, could benefit from your expertise.

[@tomriley5790]

CAD.... cardboard assisted design :-)! Always great to see you two letting your inner architects out! Is there a particular reason you want the sink on nook side of the U shaped galley - wouldn't it be easier to put the fridge/freezer on that side and the sink on the side it was with the engine underneath (or are you worried about leaks onto the engine?) it would seem that that would give you enough space for the 2 draws for the freezer and you'd have a hard surface next to the nook and the plumbing is already there plus if you have splashes out of the sink they wouldn't go into the nook, you wouldn't need a foldable tap or boards to cover it.

[@sailingsarpedon]

That is absolutely fantastic. We are so excited for the Uma update! The VR was awesome even if it is rough draft.🎉

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Yeah seeing that view from the vee berth was amazing. I could really see it coming together in a much more effective way than before (though I liked their old layout also). Just seeing that companionway from bed will be huge.

[@JohnDoe-jq1br]

Not me. Uma was never a good ocean going boat. They should upgrade to a bigger and better boat. Just my opinion.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@JohnDoe-jq1brI think you are missing the spirit of this channel. The do everything their own way, as affordably as possible. They used a forklift motor for their propeller ffs!

[@sailingsarpedon]

@@JohnDoe-jq1br While there are many that hold that opinion, it would seem the thousands of ocean miles Dan & Kiki have sailed her through truly awesome conditions may stand in contrast to that opinion. I for one am glad they are breathing new life into UMA despite the fact she is not what many would deem classically blue water pedigreed.

[@JohnDoe-jq1br]

@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 They were on a shoe string budget back then. Now they make the big bucks. To try and play the broke college students again, is an insult to viewers. They can afford a refit on a real ocean going boat with some room on it. I loved watching them fix up their boat when they had 30,000 viewers. I'm going to guess that they are spending way less time on their boat than they try to make up believe. Nobody with their income would live in that little cave, that doesn't sail very well.

[@bnkwupt]

Great to see you guys building Uma the way you want her instead of just going out and buying a new boat.

[@paulas_lens]

And one that gets damaged in shipping like Billy & Sierra's. That was heartbreaking.

[@bnkwupt]

@@paulas_lens no kidding. Hate to see that. Also Ruby Rose is having some teething issues with some of their equipment.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@paulas_lensTheir catamaran? I just watched some of the recent videos and I couldn't find what the damage was. Was it bad?

[@JeffreyHarthSailing]

You guys pretty much have my boat's layout; 1979 Hunter Cherubini 37'. My boat did have a private pilot berth that is like what you want. However, I removed the partition and sliding door and opened everything up. I borrowed your nook idea and expanded the port settee all the way to the bilge cover. Love it!

[@sashabenoit1518]

You guys should do storage steps for the companionway for extra kitchen storage and/or quick grab items going in and out. You can still have the steps lift up and out of the way by using heavy duty gas struts or hydraulic assist, or you can have it as a separate unit that can be disconnected from the wall, maybe on wheels or something, so that you're able to slide it out of the way and be able to access the engine compartment. Obviously it's not a huge amount of storage but on a small boat, every space counts and that little bit of space under each step is just empty and wasted space, when you could use it for more storage and have the steps have dual purpose. You could even use the ladder-like steps from your design but just make each step a little thicker and have the top of the steps open up like a lid/hatch. It would be pretty shallow stroage but still useful for maybe some tools, utensils, pens, papers, or even plastic wraps and foil. Just some ideas to maybe think about! 😊

[@SailingUma]

Oh we’ve got plans.

[@pparker5113]

Got a little sea sick during the oculus parts, but it is super cool to be able to visualize the changes. The boat nerd in me wants part deux to hear about the structural improvements, portlight changes, tankage etc. I just love how you all just go for it and dream big in a little space. Finally I assume you all know about the Duracell project, Matt has been doing amazing fiberglass work, and his construction techniques are very clever but also doable. I have learned a boatload (sorry) from watching that design/build project. Obviously a much bigger platform than UMA, but still from the same ethos of throw-the book-out-and-dream. the build your own foam core fiberglass skinned panels may not be doable for you guys in your construction space, but would enable you to "easily" make the larger panels, so nicely modeled in carboard (a great tool BTW). Well done D&K!

[@stephanking5941]

Wonderful ideas. It will be such a change when it’s done. Have you considered putting the sink where the fridge would go, and putting the fridge where you have the sink? This would ease access to the motor, prevent water from sloshing forward, and give you a prep/bar area facing the settee area.

[@steveo3459]

I'm sort of amazed. You've taken Uma down to the hull and totally re-designed a Pearson 34. How exciting. I'm agog to see it come together.

[@Four_Words_And_Much_More]

Nice design work. That is the 80% of the boat. The creation of the actual space. Nice job with design tools.

[@olegtkachenko2556]

Thank you! That's greate to look into new Uma being in old Uma!

[@acr01x]

Have you thought about flipping the sink and fridge in your design? It would give you a nice countertop towards the nook which you might be able to use while not using the galley. It as well leave you more space towards the electric motor.

[@craigsmith2889]

You were absolutely extremely creative in allowing us to be part of your design team. Loved it. Thanks from northern Michigan. Had to pull our boat today, getting ready for winter.

[@chrisstedman345]

Hi guys, looks great. One thing. Have you considered the balance? I sailed a boat that always listed because the loading hadn’t been calculated. One tack was very different from the other..

[@lesdanser489]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@Toast8799]

No mention of water tanks, holding tank and battery location. They will also be a major factor.

[@rinaldocrassa8099]

You guys are going to make it epic. I think it goes to show how much life is still left in these older hulls. Awesome

[@zzFluke]

Wow it's awesome, you're the most technologically advanced adventure/sailing channel! As and owner of Quest I will be looking forward for you guys to finish up VR project and make it available for the audience to do a VR tour of Uma.

[@matswilliams1058]

Wow what a well thought out layout. A great opportunity to translate your experience into your own new boat design!

[@garolopez887]

Incredibly well thought out !!! I felt honoured seeing you architect minds at work !

[@DIYglenn]

You'll probably want a splash guard between the sink and the nook if that's where you want to place it. You could have a 10-20cm glass guard and LED underneath it. But switching the sink and fridge might also be a consideration as you'll probably spend less time in front of the sink when cooking. You could also have a fridge with both front and top opening, so when you're on the "nook-side" you could still grab a beer. A tiny splash guard could still be beneficial to keep stuff from falling down to the nook.

[@d_fresh1169]

Nice!!! I've worked a bit with 3D architectural software, with walkthroughs and all, but what you've done is totally next level. I love the way you've incorporated the VR simulation to your model... So cool!!! I don't know how long (or how much effort) was put into converting your model into VR, but my gosh, well worth it! Great work, and a great episode. Cheers Dan and Kika, well done.

[@larryrizzo736]

It’s going to be exciting watching cardboard become reality. I think you guys are off to a great start!

[@lachlank]

sound proof the hull!!

[@donmears4090]

Another fine example of CAD (cardboard aided design) at work creating liveable working space.

[@kiyotomiyazaki1668]

Dan, the professional boat faller! hehehe sorry, couldn't resist!

[@demlds]

don't forget a little place for your fire stove !

[@pjhenders]

Interesting video with the virtual tour. A couple of thoughts: -Have you considered some type of backsplash to keep the nook drier? -I'm a little surprised that you went to the long work bench for production rather than keeping your breakfast bar/table design; I thought it was great. Where do you sit down inside to eat and look at each other?

[@SailingUma]

Come on now, we just can’t give everything away… ;)

[@marisolalmenara7658]

You will make a Japanese table???? @@SailingUma

[@dobob9635]

I was thinking the same. Your round nav desk, breakfast table was awesome. To get a nice dinning area you could make the middle part of the nook a convertible table. Or some part of the desk could slide out into the companionway to be a table where 2 can look at each other. Nevertheless I liked the tour a lot! Good luck with that project!

[@paulhellewell9468]

Looks like a really good layout. Well planned you two. Mind you the VR switching back and forth made me a touch dizzy...but then again I'm dizzy and daffy most of the time and don't need drugs or VRs to make me daffier or dizzier. Oh well back to my normal stumbling and bumbling around. GREAT job you two!!

[@ExposingReflections]

Time to blueprint everything now that you're in bare bones mode. Great tour. Looks very cool.

[@nathanixslade]

Don't buy a couch, build your own couch for your boat

[@kenmcclow8963]

I liked the VR view of the model walkthrough. I had a boat where the hanging locker door doubled as the V-berth door and could latch closed. I kind of liked that it did two things

[@shanefiddle]

Wooohooo! The energy is building now!!! What an exciting stage of the project. Thanks for taking us along for the ride! :D

[@bunyipdan]

When filming a VR tour ...... for the sake of other veiwers move your FPS vision just a little slower - pretend you are underwater or in space, it will make it a much nicer experience to watch. • It seemes like a no brainer ...... swap the sink around to be on the bulkhead rather than against the couch/settee • Cabinet coners should have large bevels or large diameter bullnose (verticle and horizontal) • Since you are on a heeling monohull and horizontal surfaces like your editing station have to be cleared when making way anyway ..... it might be a consideration to make the editing station bench lip foldable (fold down to form shelf/desktop) quick secure stowage of stuff and provide a little more corridor room for traversing

[@MihneaStoian]

Love the new interior. It's funny seeing a boat interior designed for actual sailing vs what the major boat manufacturers are selling.

[@dawnboone2]

Such a pleasure to step into your technology and see what you are thinking for Uma. Thanks for bring us with you. Loving this journey!!

[@robertduke7830]

The new design is exciting as it is a work in progress! Is weight distribution across the boat something to take into consideration? Like weight and balance on a airplane.

[@bryanboldt887]

Glad to see where you might be going with the new design. With your YT posting delay, you may now (IRL) already be much further along with the actual implementation than what is shown this video. Still, I would like to provide some feedback on what we are shown here... 1. What have you calculated for the new weight distribution? Given all the galley and other stores at the settee are starboard and it doesn't seem much counter weight is to port, my concern is the boat could list quite a lot to starboard. Can some heavier item such as the fridge or freezer be moved to port, perhaps to the lower half of your wet locker area? 2. Suggest leaving the sink on the rear wall under the current/old pot filler and move the new fridge to the settee side. This move would solve the faucet and fridge clearance issues you mention in the video, plus could be an improvement on the design. 3. If the wet locker door is built full length (floor to ceiling), possibly it could be built to slide back and act as a privacy door to your pilot/guest berth, instead of needing a curtain. We frequently see similar closet sliding door designs a lot in catamarans to close off owner hull sides from the upper salon area. Depends of course if you end up changing the design due to concern #1 above. Cheers and good luck.

[@towguy9557]

There is something i noticed on my trailer sailer that I really like. The v berth is sealed and it has compartments along each side that are also are water tight. What has occured to me is that this design essentially makes it a double hulled boat. If i ever puncture the hull, all it would do is fill the compartment since the compartments are all above the water line. Even my through hull is in a water tight box. A couple months ago, i got myself a 41ft Morgan Out Island that I'm certain to eventually redesign. When I do that, i will certainly adopt the same idea, at least to the front half of the boat. I bring this up because it may be an idea you'd maybe not considered and this would be the time to incorporate it.

[@adrianlanglois2093]

Your channel is the best guys. I love how capable in any situation you both are and your repairs and methods are so similar to how I go about these undertakings - bite off more than you anticipate every time (OCD for me!) then plan the hell out of the repair, then as my wife says make it breathe fire. Thanks for the amazing chance to follow along..

[@mikemcguire4430]

Regarding the Quarter berth you may want to consider a different tack. I have a 1981 Pearson 37, basically the next gen of the Pearson 36. Considering the amount of time the QBerth is used for sleeping it seems like you are taking up an enormous amount of space with the enclosure to fit the far end of the berth in the new design. Really chops up the interior. When DISTANCE 21:22 racing I sleep in the Q-berth and go in head first. You may want to consider this way to sleep in the Q berth. On one tack you are laying against the hull with your feet below your head, incredibly comfortable and supportive. Really more comfortable than my bed at home. On the opposite tack you are against the engine fore-aft bulkhead and again very comfortable with feet slightly below your head. But more importantly, you have privacy and relative quiet, crew can move about the interior and not disturb you, even turn on the lights use a small hanging towel can block the light. In addition you are not creating a large intrusion into the cabin area. The area behind the cabin bulkhead is wide open and suitable for all kinds of storage etc. The Q berth is very wide allowing you to possibly make a double. Add in a bit of ventilation and you have the best sea berth on the boat, a huge storage area when in port and a very useful guest bedroom with some reasonable privacy by hanging some curtains. All the best to you both. check out the interior layout of the Pearson 37 from the early 1980’s.

[@ThorsteinnAdalsteins]

Speaking of cool design. I like your D+K logo in the lower right corner. Cool designs abound!

[@Viendopiedra5029]

Glad you understand what your looking at!

[@larryb5914]

My suggestion for your sink, do what I did, cut a piece of 1/2 inch starboard exactly the entire lip of the sink and put small rubber door stops un the underside, not on the corners but close and just snug against the wall lip of the interior of the sink, then when not used at the sink will just sit on top of the other counter space....if I knew how to send a picture, but my professor of plastic helped me so I'm passing it on

[@thomasblesinger9374]

So,what do you really need? A bed, a bathroom, a kitchen and a table to eat at. 😊 Happy days !

[@krobnik]

Love the sink position. Seen and used it in production boats that had it in that place. They did have at least a bit of a screen to prevent water spilling and/or splashing on the nook though.

[@tomad4051]

And I thought using ‘cardboard mock-ups” was the high tech !👍🏻👍🏻. Then You pull the Goggle Hands ‘thingies’ 🤔🤣🤣🥰. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@bdphourde]

So, lay fiberglass on the cardboard, and paint it all with spray cans, and you're ready to splash again! 😉

[@hardpass9855]

I’m sure you guy’s have already thought about keeping the weight distribution fairly equal! It will be amazing when it’s finished 🥂🥳

[@familyupgrade]

I absolutely LOVE the design! You are very good at thinking things through. Just remember to put more that one foot rest under the work bench. One back and two forward is the goal really - Ive worked very. many. tidious. years at a PC/other, and the one thing you always miss is when the foot rest isn't there. Worked nights at our national numbers information and BOY did we use the foot rests! And that will make the knees hurt less, your back become less strained and you feel less "unmoved" when you get up. I am posetiveily sure you will find a cool way to give you footrests. And note - I didns say you need backrest. You dont. Its for the knees and neck, really. Have fun! /Catta from Sweden

[@donjohnston3776]

As a viewer thinking of you two, it would be great to see some vendors on-board for the project. You deserve the latest and greatest hi-tech cooking, hvac, navigation and plumbing equipment.

[@donaldbrown9437]

Cool video! I know you are excited about the design, knowing the hull of the boat is sound!

[@TheCruisingKiwis]

And wouldn't ya know it! After five years living at sea we just posted our first ever boat tour to our Patrons then a moment later the notification came up for yours. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing for us but our fingers are crossed. Better go and watch yours now!

[@Anne6621]

when do the rest of us freeloaders get the youtube tour ???? lol

[@TheCruisingKiwis]

@Anne6621 I might be told off if I post a link to it here but was live to the public a couple days after I posted this comment. Thank you!

[@jerbear7952]

Not that its a competition but easily the best boat channel on KZbin.

[@ghost307]

I'd suggest that you get a plastic tray that they sell to go under a washing machine to put on the floor in the locker for your foul weather gear. That way any water that drips off (or melting ice when you two head to Antarctica) will be collected rather than drip on the floor and get the structure wet as it gradually seeps its way down to the bilge.

[@SailingUma]

Everything will be waterproof, no structural damage to worry about if things get wet.

[@kunoknollenbuddler2167]

On 23:36 this scene is pure gold. I love it. hihi

[@paulas_lens]

I love oldschool CAD, newschool makes me dizzy. 😂

[@freemandrew]

Have you considered bumping the kitchen forwards a little and putting the foul weather closet behind it? It would be over the rear of your slide out fridge, which would now clear the motor. This would keep the main space feeling open with cleaner sight lines. If your guest in the pilot berth needs privacy, you can use a heavy curtain which can then be tucked away when not in use.

[@Kathikas1]

That makes sense but would mean relocating the electrical cabinet

[@TheErmerm999]

its bad as myself a structural engineer that I forget your both badass architects, but the way you think about space, its definitely architects.

[@RogerFleischer-p3f]

This is a fun part or these two design pros...and a big treat for us fans and wannabes.

[@LordLootus]

Behind the sink put a clear acrylic backing, so water doesn’t splash into the nook.

[@danratsnapnames]

its about time you guys started embracing vr tech.. there's sooo much that you can do with VR. i'm able to 3d model my 3d prints in VR, and then print them, and have them exactly the same as they was in VR. likely, because VR can use STM files, you can even do prints for big 3d cut tables for wood of whatever you want. literally, you can build everything in VR then print and assemble. its amazing tech.

[@billwickett6320]

Thanks for the tour. We like the straight thru walkway to get forward. Same as our Niagara Encore. Great idea to have the hanging locker near the companionway. (We don’t) You didn’t mentioned tankage (water and fuel), just storage. Looking forward to more details on this as you work it all out.

[@benforman5284]

Love the design! The only thing that I see, and a few other commenters see, is the sink location seems difficult. I think the sink could fit nice in the corner, left of the stove. Having a counter space near the center of the boat is essential. Even in a large house, people ALWAYS congregate around the kitchen counter/island/peninsula.

[@kenburkimsher1356]

Well done! There can't be many cruisers who have your skillset, abilities, and willingness to take on a boat refit themselves.

[@streetgliderichie9724]

Cant wait to see it when it’s finished.

[@richtidd]

In the sailing world, owners of older boats with issues often need to make a choice of rebuilding or replace it. These decisions are often hard to make. The owners of Uma decided to rebuild, doing all the very hard work them selves, spending a lot of time and a boat load of money to rebuild their beloved home. These are their stories. Dun Dun.

[@SailingUma]

😅 hahaha. I read the comment and found myself even voicing out dun dun (the proper L&O way)

[@sasfish1966]

Small splash back behind sink will hide tap and give a touch of seperation. Also a post on inboard end will let you run a storage locker across the celling. good storage for spice and ect..

[@barendgarvelink]

8:25 the wet locker is the purest indicator to tell if something’s designed as a bluewater boat. Forget keel construction, handholds or tankage. If they cared to put in a wet locker, you can be confident everything else is also taken care of.

[@clownbooface2624]

Gr8 to see it in the VR looks gr8!

[@gennettalovelady3047]

I would put the sink where it was and the fridge under the peninsula. I would also use the area under the companion way ladder combined with the leg area from the pilot birth as a hanging locker. Then pull the pilot birth forward so that you have head height to get out of bed and your legs aren't under the companion way. You will also be sitting in the main walkway when you are working at the editing bay, maybe switch that over to the other side.

[@delmermccall242]

Uma will love you for a long long time again

[@reinhardtwildschut1093]

Have you ever connected with Sailing GBU? Very similar layout. I realize you have specifics and different modes. You are all doing great things. Thank you for taking us on the journey!

[@michelesenay2807]

One more thing... our fridge has a front door which is great, we don'T have to dig deep to get stuff. But it is at the level of the floor, which means we sometimes need to get on our knees to get stuff. It would be great if the fridge woule be a litter higher.

[@SailingUma]

what we will have is a drawer fridge. And yea, depending on where we locate it, it might be one smaller drawer located higher up. but personally we don't mind having a bit more fridge space in exchange for a little discomfort to get the things out of there ;)

[@timallen6025]

( in my experience,😊) a full sink and a half sink are enough. And the stove as low and close to the centreline ideally as you can get it-tricky one to do - but then when you’re hard on the wind it is not ‘ above’ the chef and subject to inertia imho dangerous.. you can never have enough counter top space.. cardboard full size mock up beats the other cad hands down sometimes for pure ergonomics .. the VR is awesome. You guys are doing great and with so much experience going into your new interior, fabulous to watch it transform .. in my last boat -R 36 - the interior was nigh on perfect but interestingly the galley/ chart table office were offset over the build years a teensy bit in favour of the galley..no doubt you will tweak any additional bulkheads or enclosures too. Looking forward to seeing your ideas come to fruition. Great job.

[@TheThunder005]

The entire time you have been saying "U shaped galley" i thought for sure it would have been rotated 90 degrees against the stern and just be huge where the opening would be everything and the boat would be more open, similar layout as before but with more stuff on the right. But with the cardboard this makes sense

[@DYoung-vt8pq]

You guys are so inventive. This is going to be great! Stay well ❤

[@AlexKall]

Very nice! VR is great for things like this!

[@WSallai]

(1) I don’t see a dining/seating with a table area in your plan. The majority of your time is not underway, but at anchorage/moored. (2) I think it may be very dark with the port lights being blocked off. (3)The idea of having a straight fore/aft passageway is a good idea for ease of getting about and ventilation. (4) I think that having hatches that allow easy air movement whilst at anchor that has proper screens to keep all manner of insects out is a must, particularly your companionway door. Also, they need to be an easy means of escape in the event of a fire. (5) Would your hanging locker at the entrance be ventilated to dry wet gear? (6) Will all your electrical & mechanicals (water maker, water filtration, dehumidifier, HVAC, battery bank, solar charger, etc.) be in one location for ease of maintenance? (7) Will you be insulating the hull/freeboard/ceiling to keep it cool/warm in different climates? (8) Will you be making use of more fans? (9) Will you be using more LED strip lighting and spotlights throughout and where? (10) While you install underwater LED lighting to attract sealife at anchor? (11) Will you install cameras (top of mast, bow, stern, cockpit, below decks, and underwater)? (12) Will there be an electronics/navigational upgrades/installations (e.g., radar, Starlink, autopilot, etc.)? It’s great that you are able to get more life out of your boat. Hopefully, there won’t be a long yard period to get her ready for cruising/circumnavigating.

[@EdwardTilley]

Ok, well that was brilliant. The 3d walkthrough with cardboard templating mocked up a wildly custom interior and kitchen at warp speed. Wow, bloody well done. I thought this refit was folly but now I see what you wanted to showcase here.

[@feedigli]

It seems like all the weighty items in this design are on the starboard side: not a problem? Switching the sink and the fridge/freezer seems like a better plan from here (a hundred miles inland). Also glad that the hanging locker won't be so intrusive on the passageway IRL. I like the idea of a transom lite between the pilot berth and the sitting area; maybe a pocket door for a sliding transom privacy cover? I'll probably have more great ideas for you as you continue; in the meanwhile, carry on! All the best!

[@TheOlandex]

The VR tour was cool guys! There's always a risk on a sailing channel to stop sailing and do a complete refit like you're doing. A lot of viewers are most interested in sailing after all. But you guys are keeping it interesting and I think that's solid. I'm looking forward to getting you back on the water, but keep the cool stuff coming guys. Cheers!

[@mattwhiteley2748]

Looking good! Look at the sink for the Jeanneau 44 DS it will solve your issue. Facet is on the right and a sliding/folding top covers the sink. So nothing removable that can go flying around.

[@firecat4734]

I would have the sink (R/H drainer) where you are placing the fridge. Allowing for a cub/storage under the drainer and the fridge opposite where you said the sink allowing for a nice work surface with may be some kind of see through shelving for a spice rack (pined by rods) etc. Preparing food you can face into your boat and chat away when in company. Just my kind of set up.

[@edwardfinn4141]

I’m getting seasick watching the VR !

[@SailingUma]

Yeah, it's a shame that the screen recordings are so shaky from VR. The actual experience is SOOO smooth. We wish there was some dampening, or stabilization that could happen when screen recording.

[@monkeyecoabs]

Looking good, getting things where you want them, small little tweaks can really make a big differance and I think that getting a long view inside the boat will give a great feeling of space. New portlights and hatches are exciting!

[@rayb3117]

Virtual tools are becoming more and more in everyones lives. I would Love to have an Oculus and the other cool gadgets that go with it.

[@richardwallinger1683]

The hull preparation is looking excellent . A bundle of long strands like a rope makes an excellent neat bulkhead joint filler . MY teacher is an ex ??Williams F1 fabricator .from Derby in The UK. Jim Dudley . he has probably forgotten what most newbies are struggling with .

[@TerminusVox]

Just a suggestion because some other ewetoobers in vans have done it: Maybe a projector and blank wall instead of a giant screen.

[@nelzcarpentier304]

Pro-tip: googly eyes on a Quest REALLY makes it fun for external folks to watch someone playing in VR! ;--P

[@toddramonochoa3086]

Dan and Kika, you're probably all through the renovation and sailing again given your production schedule. Still, folks are talking a lot about the sink in the comments. My one thought is "backsplash." They don't call them that for nothing. Depending on how you do dishes, you could end up with an uncomfortable space behind the faucet right when you want to be most comfortable--the after meal repose. Maybe you're planning on a dishwasher? That would be awesome!

[@SailingUma]

What you're seeing on YT we filmed a week or two prior. Backsplashes are usually a solution to the problem of having sink that is too small. Tiny sinks have to place in any galley. We can't stand them. If you're having spill over, you sink is too small.

[@clintonvargas5050]

Low 150-200mm, 10-12mm toughened glass or plexiglass splash back on the sink (behind the faucet). Maybe some kind of movable bar that swings/slides into place somewhere at bum height, over the open part of the 'U' Galley, so you can brace yourself hands free on a starboard tack. Even a thoughtfully placed drawer with lockable slide might work. Appreciate the effort you are putting in on all aspects here as well as the video editing etc. Subscribed.

[@marandam6019]

I saw a designer on the ticky tok talk about having the sink in an island. She brought up a great point about thinking about how often you use the sink versus a full counter top. If possible you might think of reversing the fridge/counter and sink. That way you have a big space to do projects that still leaves your "desk" space intact. It would also be great for entertaining. Have you thought of installing the sink in the corner? My parents RV had a corner sink and I was impressed with how much I liked the placement of it because it made an unusable space very efficient and opened up so much more counter space. Plus this would get ride of the faucet issue and would save splashing the area behind the sink with water has you wash dishes and such

[@SailingUma]

It's about the head room on our boat. There isn't head room, or floor space for a corner sink. We also like having a very large sink, since it's much more practical than a tiny little one. And if you can cover it, and turn it into a work space, it's best of both worlds.

[@timerickson7056]

If you switch the sink and fridge a splash won't be ending up in the settee and it looks like if you do that a chest type fridge would be bigger . Just a thought

[@sailingvanlife6207]

Love the virtual tour! How about a 360 camera above with a feed somewhere convenient below. Also, a nav station feed to the pilot berth so whomever is there can look at it instead of getting up to ask for a sitrep.

[@oodlesofpoodles6382]

suggestion: great job. how difficult would it be to either put a low greade heater or a heated blower in the wet locker to dry things out, warm then up before putting them on and to keep them from mold and mildew? You two do great work.

[@veleiroema]

I loved this initiative, I use a lot of cardboard, but it still stuck to the hull, the VR idea was excellent, I tried something in Blender 3D, it's very good for spatial awareness. Congratulations once again, I have followed you since the first renovation, and I will adopt several of your tips, Good luck always!

[@Lana_Warwick]

When prepping meals, it's much more comfortable, sociable, on bench space facing the living area (breakfast bar). A stainless steel sink bench for prep, with chopping board, convenient to wash as you go. Bin on the end handy for waste. Freezer box in corner, cooker on starboard wall, rangehood (also a night light) & dry racks above. Fridge & Pantry (with baskets) on stern wall. V berth is uncomfortable, best spot imo for loo, under the chain locker, don't need headspace to sit, Dan can't miss if sitting, then shower one side, basin the other, slide door closes it off. Sofa Bunk beds either side with privacy curtains (only certain times you, or guests, need to share a bed). Uncomfortable to walk on, but lots of head space atm, for Dan anyway 😉

[@ThomasCurran-wj9nx]

Thank you for showing us your dream.

[@Joseph-xr1wp]

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