Boat up in flames?! We can't afford this - end of our journey?? | Narrowboat Ratae

[@BoatTime]

Fair play to you two for documenting this and still smiling. This must be really tough, but your resilience is admirable 💕

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Thanks :) thanks for always watching and supporting us!

[@adubzadventures8246]

What is there to think about. Pull the panel off and remove the foam. When welding the heat will spread. Remove the foam. That removes any risk.

[@stokecarpanglers]

Don't take the chance. Rip the wall down and get rid of the insulation. It needs to go anyway in case you have a fire on the boat, that insulation will take your boat up like a candle. No brainer

[@johncooke6507]

Ouch, this is a blow for you. Time to take a step back? Pause to make a decision that you're both going to be happy with in the long run.

[@anniemac3075]

The more you say the more I think it's time to draw a line under this boat project. Regardless of whether or not you pay a fortune to get welding done you're living in a potential fatal fire with the insulation so dangerous. I've made huge mistakes financially in my life & sometimes it's better to walk away. Very sorry for you both but you're young & can start again, plenty of time. No insurance would pay out for fire caused by using unsafe materials.

[@joffey1212]

Whatever happens you will still have inflamable foam which in time could cause untold problems. And as your boat insurance would not pay out on fire damage as you knowingly fitted unsuitable foam

[@chriscon8926]

Forgot to Add The Spray Foam Gun I Purchased also From Screwfix came with a Longer Attachment that can get into awkward Places

[@BellaTrix0707]

Temperature from the flame of a lighter: 600 C Average temp of a welder: 1400 C I am a welder. There is no way I'd be doing any welding with that amount of fire risk. Even with a fire spotter in and outside of the boat standing guard. I dont understand why you guys didnt fully fix the hull from the get go, before ever even starting on the inside. It sounds like you guys were using a bunch of bandaid solutions everywhere, but not actually fixing or doing the work the correct way. Then hoped by making it look "pretty" it will all just magically work & be okay? Make it make sense. Unless you guys were just trying to offload this cobbled together bandaided boat & then sell this lemon onto an unsuspecting person? Prob never telling the next owners bout the flammable insulation in the bathroom.. Lets also remember if some ever were to happen, the insurance wouldnt even need to pay, cause you guys have videos of you trying out how fireproof that insulation is & then knowingly still installed it! Not just that, but you even have recorded videos of it & put those online. Well the Internet is forever, even if you delete it. I dont know if you only have family members on here applauding your ever misstep & bad idea. Or you willfully ignore every comment like mine, only to cry wolf later. Its the first & last video Ive watched. So much lustful temptation of fate is even for my general dare devil life style a bit much. I usually have a great amount of empathy & sympathy, but here its just gone. I guess good luck on setting a higher importance on those Bathroom tiles, rather than potentially your own life. But never mind that, cause my guess is this boat will be sold within 6 months of my comment.

[@JanetHinton-uv9lr]

Any news on Rata and what you are doing over the ladt 4 months? Keep hoping you will pop up with some positive news 🤞🤞x

[@dougmaz1]

This is what I would do let the welder continue but have a hose spraying water on the part that is glowing in side of the boat and put a nozzle on the hose to reach in the cavity it will put out the flames quickly it will make a mess but it will be better cleaning the water up with a vacuum cleaner as it runs out over the floor than smashing all of your hard work taking the tiles off and after he is finished you still have your bathroom and a little bit of tiling to do and remember to wear a mask because the fumes will be poising. Cheers Doug from Australia.

[@bindatek8801]

There is ONLY ONE CHOICE clear everything out from behind the welding area. If you leave it there will be a fire, also if you tempt the welder to try, he will use lower power no doubt, that could mean your plate will either leak or drop off - Be brave, be ruthless and rip the bathroom out, and anything else flammable.

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Thank you! Hope you enjoyed watching

[@julie9242]

Rip the lot out guys and then replace tiles with shower boards(no tiling) Keep your dream a life, come on do it❤

[@markrant]

Dear Chloe and Ryan Just stopping by to see how you guys are holding up and wondering if you have made a firm decision. Mark Alberta, Canada

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Hi ! Thanks for your comment - we are getting there - taking away all the spray foam!!! Thanks for always watching and supporting :)

[@rvrebel2209]

Hi. I would not sign a waver !! The cost you were talking about in car , the fact your home is your narrow boat it is cheaper to haul out anything against that bathroom wall (. Unfortunately any foam is flammable. Burnable , and stinks . Rock wool is used in house building for lofts, a lot of insurers will not insure it ! I would clear bathroom and totally move out any foam stuff I really do Wish You Well.

[@jonjon738]

Get a fire extinguisher and sit in the bathroom - if it catches fire then put it out - easy. A powder fire extinguisher will smother any fire and not cause water damage. - sorry, a bit late.

[@FlashGormless]

Research it yourself steel prices have gone down by 30% over the last 12 months. Down to pre Covid prices get another quote. It's like the chip senario... When we had the spud blight in britain we had to import potatoes from all over the world chips went up from 50p to £1 a portion. when blight was over chips never went down in price. same with steel, price gone down, retail stays high.

[@sueevans1152]

Did u put spray foam in urselves ?

[@Rick-tb4zm]

Did you not have a boat survey before buying it ?

[@p46967]

I think in one of their earlier videos they said that they bought it in the water, they also said it hadn't been out of the water for 9 years !!! Alarm bells should have been going off.When buying a boat a hull survey is the bare minimum and a must, everything else can be dealt with.Come to think of it I'm surprised they got insurance without a survey.

[@martinhill3986]

some spray foam will not light with heat only, needs a naked flame

[@stevenjenkinson]

Can you open up the wall at the top, and wet behind the wall with water or fire retardant liquid/spray to try and lower the chances of the spray foam igniting?

[@ajw1467]

Tbh your out of your depth you dont have the or skills or cash get rid and save for a better boat get a survey before you buy better to lose 1k than taking to big loss

[@p46967]

I agree,sell it on, take the loss and put it down to experience.I'm sure they said before that they bought it in the water and it hadn't been lifted out for 9 years !!! I think they're listening to their hearts and not their heads,I don't know what they paid for the boat but feel that they're throwing good money after bad.

[@saltaireorangebicyclechopp8555]

I've not commented before, it's been fun watching because when l was young l could never wait, didn't listen & often did stuff the wrong way around, so l can empathise. 👍 Still, l never asked for help to get out the holes l dug, it's now time for you to climb out of your hole & stop digging further.

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Thanks! Hope you enjoyed watching :)

[@elmonte5lim]

What Chloe said about how much you'd learned by buying an old boat was pretty 'on the money'. You had a warning from your welder about the possibility of fire. As someone who's had some dealings with 'spooky' and 'woo-woo', I saw that flaming car as - at least - an underline to that. The worst that will happen if you have to trash the bathroom to replace the foam is more time and money spent. The worst that can happen if you don't is fire and - maybe - the end of the road. Do you have all the information you need, to make an informed decision? Is it worth saying "Oh, screw it!" and tossing a coin? Good luck - or does one make one's own? - whatever you decide.

[@tyleraustin3837]

Things might not be looking up now but in the end all will fall in to place I hope you both don't stress to much and fingers crossed it's not so pricy.. 😊

[@davidcollishaw2771]

If it's water and air tight there's nothing to feed the flame. You could also wet it down inside if it does take. Pink foam is retardant. MiG welding he can do in stages to let the heat dissipate. Monitor from the inside and wet it down How hard is the window to remove. It's one of those things. Steel prices aren't likely to improve.

[@originalpickaxe]

Before buying new steel maybe ring round some marinas that might have stockpiles bought at older and cheaper times. I know Uxbridge marina always has lots in their yard , I dont know if they would sell it , you can only ask.

[@beautifully_wonderfullymade]

Sorry to hear about your troubles, especially since you had put so much effort into making this your home. What a tough day for you both

[@davidcollishaw2771]

Bear in mind that once it's done it's done. Prolongs the boat and keeps its value. And now you know. Bang some extra anodes on there as well as that's probably the cause if its been in a marina for years

[@ajw1467]

You can't polish a turd it's worth nothing spending 20 k on it and still not worth much cut loses and find a decent Boat but get a survey

[@thefloatingapothecaryroman16]

Roll up sleeves expose the wall scrape it off and do as much ss you can youself. Doesnt all have to. Be done yesterday.

[@trevorsbarkingmadchannel4501]

Love the lines of your boat. I hope it is repairable. Could u do a fund raising site like James did for his overplating ? He well xceeded expectations financially. Worth a try. Best wishes

[@AndyDeiu]

If you guys remove the tiles is best to put a number on each of them so when placing back they go as before without cutting

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Great idea thank you for watching :)

[@p46967]

Good luck removing them without breaking them

[@AndyDeiu]

@@p46967 scraping them with a thin metal wire … cut underneath.

[@guytero8812]

The saddest thing is that an over plated boat is worth nothing. Always get a survey done before purchasing a boat.

[@p46967]

I agree, I would never buy an overplated boat it's such an unknown quantity. For such an old boat I'm surprised that they got insurance without a survey.(maybe they took out 3rd party only !! )

[@thefloatingapothecaryroman16]

What is wrong with overplating. I've seen many older boats overplated and going strong 20 year plus? Is it just snobbery?

[@guytero8812]

@@thefloatingapothecaryroman16 An over plated boat is very dodgy and shows that it's structurally failing. You'll see that when you put it on the market the value will be very low. BTW I'm a narrowboater myself.

[@balluna1453]

Oh no :( does this mean you may pack up and P off?. 😀

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Hope not!! Thanks for watching :)

[@markrant1460]

Dear Chloe and Ryan Chloe remember on your birthday you got food poisoning and how sick you felt? That is how Ratae is feeling. She needs a big hug from both of you. If you leave some of the insulation in place have a fire extinguisher at hand as they weld over that area. If you happen to see smoke then call to the welder to stop and allow the area to cool down. Have you spoken to the welder to see if he would take a deposit for material and then make monthly payments after that for the balance. Also have him check around to see if any other places might have a stock pile of steel at a lessor price. Is there family that can help out financially? Do not give up hope as you will get through this. You are both young and have many years ahead of you. Be strong for Ratae as she now needs you. Mark Alberta, Canada

[@nensschreuder683]

we live on a dutch barge , 100 year old, and when there is welding (and trust me, there is a lot of it) we are stand bye inside with a water hose, cooling it down if necessary, and a smoke extractor from the boatyard. You have to be there yourself, don't trust the boatyard.....it is your own responsibility... and yes, it is expensive , maybe you can do it on the most thin plates, (double it? ) but think about it like a old house, ( a new foundation) it give you peace of mind, you don't want a leakage , (i have been there ....stress!! ) when you have to do new insulation, think about sheep's wool or cork, very good insulation ,and fireproof) What @markrant 1460 says; stay on it, it's worth it, there is nothing better than living on a boat. succes xxx👍

[@markrant1460]

Can something be done for them. Mark Alberta, Canada@@nensschreuder683

[@garyneilson1833]

Fingers crossed you get it sorted

[@ramseybarber8312]

Hi I feel for you both with your problem BUT if you have it done the value of your boat will increase if you don't have it done the boat is worthless , you say that the foam is a metre long behind the ply wall well that is not the end of the world , Good Luck

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Thank you :)

[@agfbuilding]

So many people buy old boats and end up spending way more than just buying & fitting out a new sailaway.

[@mikeboone4425]

Take out the wall don't risk losing it all .

[@Jazzdecoratingurgh]

Hi,is there any way of getting a hull wrapped by plastic. Think some boats can. I wouldn't think of scrapping it, just get it blacked with lots of coats of proper paint. I think wing it along. Welding can't be that hard to learn. My pal paid 10 k for a near complete hull,just off the grand union 48 foot barge But he lost out on the sale value overall. Was 20k from ebay for boat He sold after the 10k spend on hull plates also paint and surveys. For about 25k. Lost about 5k on the deal.... Ive got a boat just winging life Good luck

[@ocean686]

5mm plate sounds heavy. I would have thought 3mm would have been enough for this patching job. WW2 MTB's hulls were 3mm plate. 5mm on top of pitted 5mm will add to your draught in a big way. The hull is shot, but overplating is the best and cheapest bodge option, but use 3mm to save £

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Thanks for this suggestion! Hope you enjoyed watching :)

[@gert-janverwindt6793]

just let me know what you want

[@howardbeer5214]

I WARNED YOU 2 WEEKS AGO !!!!!!! YOU MUST BE THERE INSIDE ALL THE TIME WELDING IS TAKING PLACE !!!!!! FIRE WATCH !

[@raymondneale8414]

There are some welding systems that are not as hot as stick welding, might be worth looking at. ❤❤

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Great ! Thanks for watching :)

[@joedouglis]

Guys sorry to hear bout your run of bad luck but im sure you will get over it

[@AndyDeiu]

When he’s welding things around there you guys can flood the sponge so it doesn’t catch on fire … but regardless you guys have to remove things

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Good idea thanks!

[@turtrubshaw]

I watched a few rebuilds now a number have had the same issue as you. Most re plated but at a cheaper time for steel. I’m not a fan of re plating certainly not at that cost. Rust has got your boat sadly. Possibly £20000 to put right and when you finish I suspect you will not be confident in the long term result. People have suggested a go fund me and that’s a good idea, but put the money to buying a better boat with a full survey and one that’s already insulated. There are some great boats about in very good condition.

[@yelloperil1674]

There are solvents that can dissolve spray foam, could possibly be an option

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Great thanks! Hope you enjoyed watching :)

[@DEmma1972]

Fingers crossed

[@bradleybolton3843]

Do a go fund me. That boating community will all pull together

[@shirleygreaves9650]

Oh dear it sounds like you need to strip everything back and do as you’ve been advised! Maybe you should have got the hull and outside sorted before starting on the inside. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I think you’re both out of your depth here!

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Yep out of our depth! Thanks for watching :)

[@angelaperkins6507]

Do a test. Get some steel ( the same as he would use), spray foam it, and test weld, see what happens! Perhaps! Don’t know. Good luck.

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Good idea thanks, hope you enjoyed watching :)

[@theoilybeard3287]

If it was me I'd risk the fire, so long as you've planned for it to happen and have the means to put it out promptly. I'd have some long enough 10mm copper pipe connected to C02 pub gas bottles (or c02 fire extinguishers) to get close to any flame, and then plenty of backup fire extinguishers should the worst happen - obviously do research which type is going to be best. Bearing in mind the limited access my thought would be pump the whole enclosed area full of c02, but then there's water as well, so long as you can get it in fast. I'd say cleaning off the foam within a couple of inches of the weld line would be best, there will be less to burn then, but even remnants are likely to catch so be ready. I see no reason why you shouldn't wet it prior to welding, which should help any spread. Bear in mind any fumes/smoke from burning foam is likely to be poisonous. Good luck with it!

[@davidfisher7541]

Sell it if you can over platting isn’t cheap

[@ajw1467]

Lol no survey when you bought i guess fools easily parted with there cash

[@Mikeyt171163]

"MO" survey?..... "there" cash? I guess there's only one fool I can see 😂😂😂

[@ajw1467]

@@Mikeyt171163 tosser

[@chriscon8926]

What about Spray Foam Remover I have Used Cans from Screwfix to Clean Spray foam Guns and they seem to do a great Job at disintegrating it .There May be Something Even Better out there that would do the Job its Not a Massive area to be Treated

[@Kitzandbitz]

Anyone who walks around a boatyard in flip flops is not exactly savvy.

[@arievrolijk6947]

It’s not looking good. I would stop waisting your money and run. It is what it is.

[@bywhacky7395]

take it down, friends boat was all but distrroyed in this sceanario

[@ryanandchloenarrowboat]

Oh no! Hope you enjoyed watching :)

[@andrewrowlands4542]

Good grief, Ryan, put your hand over your mouth when you yawn.

[@rjkism]

its a boat at the end of its insurable life putting any money into this will not add tomits value but detract from it if anything, your best to sell on as a project to someone who wants to take a chance ..... get out now before its too late next will be the engine then all the other problems you will encounter save up and have one built, and I think your getting your price for work wrong ..... A QUOTE is a set price ..... i dont know a welder working on boats who will QUOTE estimates only your out of your depth and my advise is get out before you hemerage all your cash on a wreck

[@edwardhoughton2565]

Xx

[@Piffaliff]

Dont take this the wrong way but please dont waste anymore money on this boat and cut your loses now before its to late and you lose alot more money as atm your only losing re-sale value, i know its a hard thing to come to terms with as you have loads of plans to make it your forever home after all but you seem like your both just wishful thinking that its going to be ok when in reality its really just getting worse with every bit your finding thats wrong with the boat. Soon your going to get out of your depth and will only ruin your health and relationship through this project so please quit with this one and find another one thats in better condition before you deplete your funds too much

[@fabricartUK]

This a sad vlog.... we needs a thumbs down button. I feel for you. So sorry this is turning into a money pit. Sending love and hugs and positive wishes xx

[@davecook3138]

Why not consider starting a go fund me? Good luck with sorting it. You have put so much effort into the boat, it would be a shame to lose it now.

[@Narrowboat.and.offgrid.living]

Start a go fund me boaters are a great bunch the channel narrowb9at that James built did this and managed to get 20 grand for a full underplayed form donations put your pride aside and start one I'm sure your viewers will help

[@stuartgibbons3910]

Ryan, you are so beta mate.

[@JUSTJAMIE82]

Ive sandblasted many boats sorry to say your's looks like scrap

[@mhaltray]

WHAT ABOUT A GO FUND ME PAGE? COUNT ME IN.

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[@ObiukwuN.I]

Despite all the financial struggles i and my family faced, everything is finally falling into place! $47,000 weekly profit and riches I'll always praise the Lord.

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