Bodybuilding Legends Podcast

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Author John Little talks about Mike Mentzer and Bruce Lee in Part Two of his interview with the Bodybuilding Legends Podcast. John talks about why Mike Mentzer walked away from Bodybuilding after the 1980 Mr. Olympia and how the sport could have been different if he would have won that contest. Then John talks about Bruce Lee, how he used bodybuilding exercises to develop his physique, his unique training methods and the incredible legacy he left behind.

[@iluvmym4]

Mike & His brother will live for ever in our memories 🏆

[@ivangarduno4529]

Thank you for honoring Mike Mentzer's Legacy John Hansen and John Little. Great interview as always John.

[@fender1000100]

Yes Mike was one of the greatest. Who was attacked from all sides for his true scientific training principles. I got more gains from training 1 time a week to training 4 times a week. It worked for me.

[@dtm4071]

@@fender1000100 If it worked so well then where are these videos?

[@icanmanifest]

So crazy. At 20 i discovered Bruce Lee who became a HUGE hero for me and it was right at the heart of John Little writing his books on Bruce. At 42 Dorian Yates has become an inspiration, which led me to Mike Mentzer and here I am back to John Little lol. Small world.

[@Hittdogg17]

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[@motomaggs7164]

How refreshing to hear conversation around training rather than drugs!

[@anab0lic]

agree, though it would have been interesting to also discuss what he was using to assist that training.

[@JesusOnlySavesEternally]

Mentzer was a critical thinker. No surprise he was a conservative capitalist

[@motomaggs7164]

In any field of study, opposing opinions and healthy debate contributes greatly to evolving an understanding of the subject matter. HIT may or may not have been largely deemed successful in its practical application, however, one might argue that less extreme elements of the training philosophy have indeed been widely adopted, that being a reduction in training frequency and duration, with a recognition of overtraining being ultimately counterproductive.

[@BillyBatsonMarvel]

You would make ALL KINDS OF DRUG FREE GAINS on this program. Do it right it’ll take a week to recover from some sessions 🤬 crazy. If you’re on gear recovery is no biggie, I guess?

[@JesusOnlySavesEternally]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Tell that to Dorian

[@hankkima624]

John Little has told the truth at a whole new level. He is a man among men.

[@fender1000100]

That's why he respected and gelled with Mike. They're about INTEGRITY. Something sadly missing today.

[@CharlesDamianoBLC]

John Little great interview! Two great legends Mike Mentzer and Bruce Lee! Great job!

[@jedishaw6771]

It's very rare that I watch an interview like this and don't get bored! This is a great interview!! Didn't want it to end!!!

[@jimmysapien9961]

Exactly

[@SuperSREEVES]

Thank you John great great interview with John Little, Mike Mentzer and Bruce lee were heroes of mine as a teenager. The 1980 and 1981 Mr. Olympia contest changed my fandom for the sport. Stopped buying the magazines didn't follow the sport anymore. John if you're planning no having John little on again would you mind asking him about Steve Reeves because he also co-wrote a book about Steve Reeves and all so did a documentary on Steve reeves that'll be awesome all the best John you're the best! Love your channel.

[@LoonaSwan]

Wish to have more of John Little about Bruce Lee, thanks.

[@REALSALES]

John Little & John Hansen Thank You both for keeping the light on. The memories that come back to me, flood my mind from this time period are priceless. They were a major part of my youth. RIP Mike Mentzer, you were a breath of fresh air, you walked the walk and talked the talk!!

[@ronaldmccutcheon1329]

My 2nd ever day in a gym, i met a man who became my mentor. He immediately told me about Mike Mentzer. This was June 1981. I've been a Mentzerite ever since.

[@shack7631]

One of the best interviews on KZbin.

[@CoachPalacio]

Excellent again. It is incredible how the outcome of the 80 Olympia was a such pivotal moment in Bodybuilding. I remember watching previous Bodybuilding competitions on TV in the late 70s and then it came to a screeching halt. Totally disappeared because of that one event. Sad to think what could have been.

[@CoachNiklas]

What a wonderful interview this was, I really enjoy two intelligent persons who respect each other, talk about bodybuilding and Mike Mentzer specially. Thank you so much, John ..!

[@jimmysapien9961]

I Agree

[@chuckzamzow9]

Great interview John👍👍 gave me more insite on Mike

[@paulisthelegend]

One of the best interviews I’ve seen

[@riyazkhan380]

Mr. Little brings so much fresh air in bodybuilding. Fantastic job John I searched for the first part but could not find. Any help will be highly appreciated

[@brianblinstrup8137]

Great interview, John!!

[@loveisthelaw20042004]

John Little is awesome! I read his book on Bruce Lee when I was a teenage bodybuilder !

[@warrior3214]

Brilliant interview, really outstanding, Thankyou.

[@mig1017]

Great segment on Bruce Lee

[@ahksihonmishlei2324]

Wow I have a few of Littles books in my library.

[@robertobetancourt7881]

I love all those story’s inspiration

[@stefanosprokopis6974]

Bodybuilding is a business just like everything else. The irony is that in allowing the 1980 debacle to occur (so that more profit can be made) bodybuilding lost so much credibility which inevitably would hurt profits. Imagine bodybuilding became as popular as wrestling how profitable it would of been. Then again 200 million ain't bad for a couple of brothers that started a magazine in a time about a subject that 99 % of people didn't even know existed. Still if bodybuilding had stuck to the frank Zane type of physiques from the late seventies and the judging was fair who knows how popular bodybuilding would of been even before the internet. Great interview i remember the name John Little from the mags in the old days. Great to know how Bruce was buying the bodybuilding mags and how it influenced him. Who knows without bodybuilding maybe Bruce Lee would of remained anonymous. Let's face it Bruce's body was very important to his overall fame and popularity. If he had never lifted weights what would he of looked like? It wouldn't be the same without the incredible muscularity he possessed.

[@naturalolympia]

Great comments Stefanos. I agree about if the judges would have kept going for the Frank Zane look or at least putting an emphasis on shape and symmetry as well as mass and definition, you can only wonder where bodybuilding would have gone.

[@stefanosprokopis6974]

@@naturalolympia thanks it would be cool if you can get Australias Rocco Opedessano for on interview. He talks about his life on a video on KZbin. He grew up dirt poor and hungry to become extremely wealthy through publishing and supplements same as Weider to competing and running bb competitions giving 10 grand in the early eighties to the winner. A lot of your viewers would really appreciate such an interview.

[@jessupfancypants727]

A few weeks ago I had my girlfriend look at a few pictures of the 80 Olympia, her not knowing anything about BB, anything about posing, the competitors. She picked Mentzer everytime. That shows who simply was the better competitor that day.

[@dtm4071]

It shows 'her not knowing anything about BB'.

[@CoachPalacio]

DTM so her subjective judgment doesn’t count? If you listened you can see that the crowd turned and the broadcast was put on the shelf because the TV crew knew the contest was fixed.

[@stevenroberts5741]

....well if your girlfriend who knows nothing about bodybuilding says so!!! ... could have saved 40 years of debate 😶😅

[@jessupfancypants727]

Steven Roberts lol, and me who has been following the sport for years, and about 90% of everyone else think so, I think it means something. It’s not controversial cause arnie was lights out now, was it?

[@HDLifter]

The '80 Mr O, the difference between being GIVEN a title vs winning it. It was a slap in the face to everyone; champs and fans alike. Only to be followed up the following year with poor Platz. When I discussed the debacle with Mike in '95, he was still incredulous! And rightly so for a man of integrity.

[@Tundra1980A]

Great interview

[@MGTOW-nn9ls]

Great video Mike and Bruce Lee were my heroes.

[@austinclarke2514]

Great interview, he knows his stuff.

[@guygraham8016]

Great interview and insight into Mike Mentzer .

[@ricze6]

Bruce and Mentzer...can't get enough.

[@JohnBrooksCT]

Mike Mentzer was one of the top 3 bodybuilders of all time in my opinion. He was blackballed so he didn’t get what he deserved in the sport.

[@theironforce3000]

Fantastic interview and topic coverage here . Really got to understand more about Bruce Lee and even a bit more about Mentzer.

[@Crayfish3D]

very insightful and articulate guest

[@gregoriomiller8241]

Great stuff!

[@iluvmym4]

Best interview I’ve ever had the pleasure to hear 👂 thank you

[@rezo61]

This episode is great!

[@ericdsouza2559]

Fantastic interview. Keep up good work.

[@hosamfares]

Amazing interview

[@adambryan1146]

I've just come across your channel.... absolutely amazing.

[@ralphbuschmann740]

Great Interview!

[@wildmanz8233]

I love interviews about the old school bodybuilders. I started training around 1983 so many of the Golden Age legends were still around. I feel lucky I got to see Sergio, Boyer, Samir, Robby and a host of other greats on stage in those days!

[@eccesignumrex4482]

I train 2x a week, I hit the same body part every 14-18 days. I'm jacked.

[@jadranperkovic7398]

Gold Thank You Gentlemen God Bless

[@chrisbach1533]

And since so many Americans today are so convinced by this "bigger is always better" arguement: In answer to the question if Lee could beat the Hulk since it's brought up by fans. The late Sigung Richard Bustillo had Bruce's grip machine. Lou Ferrigno (The Hulk in the TV show) could not squeeze the same weight as Bruce did. Lou said, "I can pick up the weights, but I can't grip them." So Lee wasnt stronger as The Hulk or could beat him, but he had a stronger grip as Ferrigno. Lou Ferrigno: 6'5"/ 195 cm | 285-295 lbs / 129-133 kg Bruce/Junfan[Jun-fan] Lee: 5'7.5 / 172cm | 135-145 lbs / 61-65 kg

[@ericbrown8479]

Overall not too bad of an interview with John Little, but I think a big opportunity was missed to discuss the difficult late 80s for Mike and then when he re-appeared as a personal trainer in the 90s. Also would loved to hear more about Mike's extremely low volume routines he gave out late in his life. I also don't get why all of these bodybuilders are so obsessed with Bruce Lee.

[@stevenroberts5741]

But what he doesn't say about Bruce Lee is that the weight training was a small part of an overall high volume training regime of sparring, running, cycling, weights, isometric contractions work as well as focused training on forearms (with home using an almost grease the groove approach) keeping dumbbells close by and Zotmann curling throughout the day as an example and high frequency daily ab training. So a bit misleading to say the abbreviated weights aspect was what led to Bruce Lee's physique.

[@dtm4071]

Exactly. HITters are a joke.

[@toms3664]

Lol I agree, however there are a few genetic freaks who seldom train

[@Perun.Tha.Unvaxxd]

STEVEN ROBERTS. not to mention it's funny how after the recent release of the Bob Baker Letters aka Bruce Lee Drug Letters John Little has been quiet.

[@youngnguyen2012]

@@Perun.Tha.Unvaxxd wym quiet? what was he supposed to be loud about?

[@InCarIdiot]

Brilliant! I've been training and competing for over 40 years but this has made me think again......

[@tektoniks_architects]

Mike was dangerous to the bodybuilding establishment. He challenged convention, he called out corruption, and he served logic....he was principled, rigorous, and brilliant. He was railroaded out of a corrupt system, but he was right. Mike was among the greatest bodies and minds in bodybuilding history.

[@lateralus2199]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Once again, more vomit rhetoric from an Arnold Schwarzenegger psychopath! Worships Arnold and even resorts to training twice a day 4 to 5 hours a day, working a body part three times a week like Wedlock Arnold. He loves overtraining where he looks emaciated and has the galls to put Arnold in his KZbin profile picture. Hahaha!

[@saizkumar3627]

thank ❤

[@poolboyinla]

The Be Water documentary was the worst Bruce Lee documentary I have ever seen.

[@sashaperezallen]

Gracias

[@carpediem6568]

Utmost respect for Mr. Little. A lot of great knowledge, and one of the few who had the guts to stand by Mike when Mike needed someone, and no one else would. But people are different and have different requirements. Some people gain muscle more easily. And although it may not have been "kosher" the way it happened, from the late 70's on is when bodybuilding became popular. And it helped propel the fitness industry we have today, where gyms are all over the place. Before Arnold (and Jane Fonda), we had hardly any gyms. There was not one single gym in the city of 100,000 population I grew up in, not until 1968. And it was wonderful, but a joke compared to today, nothing more than a large room with a few exercise machines. And Weider made bodybuilding a science. I just wish I had logged onto his magazines instead of the competition.

[@stind1299]

I'm going to paraphrase George Orwell here as it seems apt. The further an organisation drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it. That's the IFBB and Mike Mentzer in a nutshell.

[@Lonewolf__666]

Great.. 😁

[@TruthGuyOfficial]

It is crazy to think of how big and different bodybuilding could be today if mike would have gotten a fair shake and won the 1980 Olympia... its sad how it happened

[@ronherrera8327]

I believe the movie pumping iron brought bodybuilding to the forefront. The star, Arnold Schwarzenegger is synonymous with the popularity of bodybuilding. Prior to that movie, the popularity of bodybuilding as a sport was ranked a dismal 35th behind tractor pulling.

[@gporr7004]

These supplement companies aren't selling many pre workouts or special potions while promoting short workouts. Like he said, most of this is politics and business decisions. How can we make the most money not necessarily who or what is the best.

[@briand5047]

Does John Little think the "Casey Comes Clean" article in M&F was an attempt to distance himself from A.J. after seeing Mentzer loss in 80. Casey placed poorly in 1980. Is there any thought that he should have placed better? Then he didn't compete in 81 Mr. O. I don't remember ever hearing a reason. Then got 3rd in 82 Mr. O.

[@michailsemyonov9426]

Hello! Please forgive me for my English! Perhaps I will make mistakes. I am not a native speaker of this language, I do not know it at a good level, but I hope that the knowledge that I have and the Google translator will be enough for us to understand each other. I would like to know if there is any way to contact Mr. Little? I would like to ask him some questions about training, but could not find any of his public contacts.

[@ivangarduno4529]

Heavy Duty Legacy 17:10

[@brandonhigh1191]

I wish I could remember the title of that book that John little wrote about bodybuilding using very high weights it was brilliant!

[@brandonhigh1191]

Partial reps were proven

[@ivangarduno4529]

@@brandonhigh1191 Is it Body by Science, or Max Contraction Training?

[@bobbyhunt3009]

Love to hear your thoughts on Mike, Yeah he was robbed in 80 but honestly 79 is the one that ticks me off the most. It is laughable that Zane got it especially after Mike's perfect score. A guy gets the highest marks u can get, no flaws and then overall goes to someone else. The Weiders didnt like Mike and they robbed him of 2 Olympias and no telling how much money. For his sake I wish Mike would've waited until after he had a couple Olympias and then come out with his beliefs and thoughts. The Weiders couldnt have hurt him then. They hurt his income and reputation terribly. Sorry for the rant, I just get so mad when I think about what happened to Mike

[@lateralus2199]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Once again the same old paste up comment, you've been doing for years! Time to change your diaper at the mental institution you reciting at

[@TheRealTomahawk]

38:10 I accidentally thought that he meant by powerful that he meant powerlifting so I started doing powerlifting back in like 2013 . However, he really meant more powerful punch or kick or just in general more power in your technique. Lol but I love powerlifting

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Bruce Lee was a good martial artist who was not a professional fighter. Full contact fighting did exist during Bruce's time in Japan, Thailand, and Brazil. There was also the world of professional boxing. Bruce did not participate in any of these activities. Maybe he was afraid that losing a match would hurt his marketability for the movies. Maybe Bruce had a glass jaw. Maybe Bruce just did not like being hit for some reason. All of these issues do not change the fact that Bruce had some interesting ideas about fighting and training. There are many great masters in the history of the martial arts who did not fight professionally. To me, the stop-hit and the right lead boxing style are themselves innovations in fighting theory that guarantee Bruce's place in history. I do not think that Bruce was anywhere close to being "the best" but he did have some worthwhile ideas.

[@japekki666]

Question is that did Mentzer took Bruce Lee's program in use?

[@user-ts2co4ov5h]

Robby Robinson trained right next to mentzer many times and he told me Mike would do many warm up sets before he did his work sets and not counting them. But in reality in Actual time it was longer than advertised. Matter of fact Robby would complain that Mike was taking too long....Mike only counted the all out sets

[@zman8340]

Mike says this in his book . Ha advocated warming up well .

[@gporr7004]

I love qhen an interviewer let's the guest talk. So many other shows they constantly cut the person off mostly with cringy jokes at that. One example is Mark Bell when he has Ed Coan on his show. Nothing against Bell professionally but one too many jokes is annoying. Let the guy explain himself

[@CrazyMaori24]

Great interview 💯💯💯💯

[@tomlucasrccrawlers9108]

From what several martial artists from back then including Chuck Norris.... Bruce weighed 145 when he was out of the country for those films. 120....he would've been bones.

[@daviddiaz529]

The only way to settle the Heavy Duty/Arthur Jones system v Orthodox training is to do a clinical study. Otherwise, it's just anecdotal.

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Machines, carbohydrates, and a few sets per week vs. barbells, tons of protein, and dozens of sets PER BODYPART per week. The contrast between Weider/Arnold and Jones/Mentzer could not be more stark or complete. Weider won in historical terms. "Everybody" is doing volume with a high protein diet, using primarily free weights. But the nagging question remains: what is true?

[@jeffgovernale7062]

The whole bodybuilding industry, including the 40-60 sets per body part per week training schedule, exists for the sole purpose of selling protein powder and other supplements. Doing 2-5 total sets per week and eating white bread [Arthur Jones's favorite food] just does not serve any commercial interests. As far as the 1980 Olympia is concerned, as soon as it became obvious that Arnold was going to compete, the fans in the audience had to know that "the fix was in." At that moment it became similar to Hulk Hogan beating Andre the Giant during Wrestlemania 3.

[@tfitness4u]

9:05. He used the term “conservation of energy phenomena “ Paul CHEK uses the term Unaccustomed Stimulus and it’s the same science. More energy and more musculoskeletal Stability is engaged when you try new exercises for your body

[@gregchristofaro6636]

Mike and Frank were DEFINITELY better than Arnold!!! I was in that world in Venice in the late 80's. I worked at Gold's Gym in Venice and competed once and took 1st place. Mr. Newport Beach 1988(Novice).😃💪🏾

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Getting big is a matter of getting strong and eating enough. To get strong you must lift heavy weights. Lifting heavy weights automatically limits the amount of volume one can do without courting injury and chronic fatigue.If Mentzer overstated the case for limiting volume, then Weider and his magazine grossly overstated the need for ridiculous amounts of volume, volume which, when engaged in, can only result in gains for enhanced athletes. Of course, teenage boys and college athletes can tolerate more volume than men past 30, especially those who may be nursing a training injury or three. The exact volume requirement for the trainee depends on age, years of training experience, genetic potential, strength, history of training injury, level of general health, and most importantly, proximity to genetic limit. The closer one gets to one's genetic ceiling, the less training one can or should perform. However, if the choice must be between less than optimal volume and maximum volume tolerance, I will go with the former. Overtraining the bench press can result in bad shoulders. Overtraining the deadlift can result in a bad back. Overtraining the squat can result in bad knees. To me, the strongest argument for hyper-vigilance concerning volume and frequency runs in the direction of injury prevention. Doing more than a certain number of bench press reps can predispose the rotator cuffs to injury. Doing sets for the sake of doing sets can literally be dangerous.

[@godgunsandgoldens]

Bruce Lee Legend is just that. Legend and little truth. He never competed yet everyone has a story of how great a fighter he was. There is no way he had the devastating power like John little stated. 125-130lbs fighters are going to be quick, agile and have energy to spare but not one punch knockout power. Look at all the MMA fighter’s and boxers at that weight and punching combinations and accuracy rule the day not one punch knockout power. A lot of money to be made in Bruce Lee Legend so everyone talks him up. A lot of movie magic and little else. Dying at a young age helped fuel the hype as being a fighter in movies. Everyone seems to have an antidotal story of Bruce Lee or heard of incredible feats of prowess. I believe he would lose to any elite MMA fighter with the experience of many fights at 125lbs because he lacked real fight experience.

[@jeffgovern1702]

I trained 7 basic exercises with very low volume and frequency for 30 years. I never did more volume because I COULD NOT. When I reached my peak deadlift I was doing the lift once every 28 days.Mike's final protocol was squat/pulldown and deadlift/dip every 18 days. Mike was not only right, he was DAMNED right. BTW I never had access to Nautilus or Hammer. The bodybuilding subculture and the exercise physiology orthodoxy speak only to juiced athletes or to teen boys who are so full of testosterone that they can tolerate ridiculously complex training systems. If I had it to do over again I would do rest pause, infitonic, and omnicontraction on machines.

[@josephmiller9424]

This work out won't work for everybody you need top level genetics and it may work.

[@aliyma]

"The conformist does what he does because everybody else does it. The non-conformist says I'm not going to do it because you guys are doing it. The individualist says I'm doing it because I can see for myself the reasons that it's true". ~ Mike Mentzer as quoted by John Little @fredneets ~

[@WarriorSidMentzer]

I wonder what Mike's thought's on the Plandemic would have been?

[@elvisp116]

John Little is a guy I would love to just ask questions lol

[@lateralus2199]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines sucking down on Arnold's jock again?

[@samuelclemons508]

Mike was too smart for his own good. Dogmatic , couldn't change , much to his undoing. Last few years were very sad to see. He was absolutely correct about overtraining though.

[@ethan74105]

For sure. I learned alot when he talked about a certain client who couldnt grow or get stronger until he cut his volume down from 7 sets every 48 hours to 3 sets every 5 days. However I feel this client would have made progress working out more frequently cause after 48 hours or so the muscle building signal was probably ended. So he needed much less volume but most likely could of used more frequency.

[@dtm4071]

No he wasn't. 'Overtraining' is a term lazy people use as an excuse to do less.

[@samuelclemons508]

@@dtm4071 really? Do me a favor ........Don't ever train anyone.

[@dtm4071]

@@samuelclemons508 Do me a favour, keep doing HIT and stay skinny.

[@thelongtrader4642]

@@dtm4071 Have you ever heard of Rhabdomyalisis ? Well i got that from doing 20 sets of squats to failure with reducing weight each set and colapsing after each set. Do that and tell me overtraining doesnt exist. Sounds to me that youre the lazy one, otherwise you wouldve knew that overtraining indeed exists and can be very dangerous depending how far do you push it. You can actually harm your kidneys to the point of total kidney failure from all muscle damage if youre crazy enough... fuck overtraining, you can literally DIE if you push it, but 90% of people with you included cant even reach that point and I understand why you think that way.

[@tilakrajgolari1577]

Don't miss the Bruce Lee part...

[@DareToWonder]

Oh the "psychic" part is just an acting technique that gets you hyper focused on the ques of someone else. Its not even that hard to learn...

[@zibtihaj3213]

Can u explain more - maybe a relevant link ? . Pls tha

[@alferg7529]

was this the john little podcast? gr9 spokes person for mike n bruce tho...john hansen hardly a good word in edgewise. Awesome interview tho

[@carljacobson7156]

what's ironic is that Arnold was a better representation of Ayn Rand's ideal man (Galt) than Mike Mentzer - even though it was Mike who was the Ayn Rand Disciple. Mike was too thin skinned and insecure - made worse by him excessive use (addiction?) to amphetamines. I also thought that Mentzer was too dogmatic in his training ideas - he didn't seem to see that everyone has different nervous systems and muscle fiber type composition. So that, there really is no 'one size fits all' training system that works for everyone. HIT works best for fast-twitch dominant mesomorphs like the Mentzer brothers, Casey Viator, Dorian Yates....AND, interestingly, Sergio Oliva and Franco Columbu (who made excellent gains in his short time training at Nautilus Headquarters in Florida).

[@iainswindell571]

12 week 15 pounds wow the hoffman protein powder (thay say it was crap) your in the money then john did he do the mans novice championships i bet bruce lee did how did he do in the posedown did he get a trophy ? that"s in a year yet a pro can not do 15 pounds in a 12 week application & training yet mr wong 12 week 15 pounds so when he seen bruce in that time he WTF you on

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Bodybuilding exists to sell supplements. The competitive aspect of it appeals to very few people. Athletes nowadays lift weights without the guidance of bodybuilders or bodybuilding coaches. And look at many smaller shows. Guys who are on steroids diet down to low bf% and look like crap.

[@lukeskywalker1574]

This is good however, lets not forget Mike and Ray where swalloing dbol like it was candy, ofcourse THEY are going to make impressive (but water weight) gains in a short amount of time. Hell, anyone taking dbol can gain size just by swiping their card at the gym counter and not even training. This is why I ALWAYS take information from Pro competitors with an open mind that perhaps the routine works efficiently and as described, because of that one important factor...

[@mo-215]

100%. Always ask myself how to apply or tale away to natty lifting and busy with blue collar work.

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Arnold seemed to be all pecs, delts, and arms. At his best Arnold did not have outstanding thighs or a great lat spread. Except for 1980 Arnold certainly deserved to win his Mr. O contests, but that is as much a question of the weakness of his competitors as anything else.

[@jeffgovernale7062]

Bruce Lee was a tough guy who happened to be an actor. He was not a paper tiger. The man could fight. Many martial arts masters of his time can attest to his skill. I hate to have to say anything positive about Bruce Lee, because in so doing, I open myself up to the wrath of a hundred haters [ after all. Bruce did not do MMA!!!!] I do not think that Bruce was a superman. I do not think that he was "the best." I do not think that Bruce could have stood up to champion boxers or world class amateur wrestlers his size.But was Bruce Lee a fighter who kicked the crap out of some other fighters? Based on my research, I believe so.

[@TheSpritz0]

Funny that Mike, being SO INCREDIBLY intelligent would think he could just tell Ben and Joe that he wasn't going to participate AND get away with it...

[@CoachPalacio]

It’s called Having principles and balls.

[@fender1000100]

@@CoachPalacio Yes honesty over the B.S of the lies and overtraining.

[@DareToWonder]

I think Ed Wong said that Tammy Tom has comprable speed to Lee on the straight lead punch.

[@vinnynumbnuts1113]

Ayn Rand!!!

[@carpediem6568]

Hoffman Protein Powder.. I still remember the taste. Mixed it with apple juice. I literally bought the store because I was there every week, purchasing the powder and the tablets you let dissolve in your mouth. Over a six year period I gained exactly one pound and lost it the next day. Nothing, in six long years of working out six days a week. Then in college I saw a guy who looked like Mr. America, absolutely stunning. He told me, "Yeath, i tried that. Didn't work." But he and a friend ordered so much Weider weight gain and protein, that Weider sent a truck all the way from their closest shipping point. He gained 30 pounds in thirty days and converted to muscle, on and on. Don't let anyone tell you supplements don't make all the difference for a hard gainer. And don't let anyone tell you Hoffman knew anything about how to build muscle. His products and his magazine were crap.

[@carpediem6568]

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines True, but when you're age 14 and living with your parents you don't have a lot of options. Also, I didn't like to eat until I was a grown man. So, no extra food in the house and trying to stuff myself was not an option. And I had to pay my way through college. Couldn't afford to move away. What would have worked perfectly would be a good weight gainer and protein drink. But with allergies, that wasn't possible either. My friend who looked like Mr. America, gave all the credit to Weider supplements. He gave up real quick on lousy Hoffman products. While I just struggled. Plus we didn't have much information and no gyms back then. Weider products tasted like sand but they worked.

[@REPSDirect]

Anyone training who's blessed with phenomenal genetics will even improve on a diet of Diet Coke and Twinkies...(LOL)

[@jakesmith6337]

Yea, Yea, Yea, Yea. 😂🤣😅

[@gustavodominguez69]

😘💋✨️✨️✨️✨️✨️💋💋💋💋

[@timothyvaughn4828]

R.R. looked awesome and better than Zane...wtf

[@platehed]

John Little. Interesting interview. Writes the crappiest fitness books. Save your money.