Boeing 747-200 Max Weight Takeoff

[@captaintimba]

I saw this video for the first time a few weeks ago. My Dad had been a B747-100/200/400 pilot and passed away a few years ago. At his funeral we played Here comes the sun and I have not heard the song since. When I heard it on this video watching other aviators doing what he had done it reduced me to a flood of tears. I hope that he is up there flying from the overcast into the sunlight forever.

[@Robert_N]

My father was an captain on the B747-200. He passed away recently. Watching this video brings tears to my eyes too. God rest their souls.

[@maxxlax-16]

Sorry for your loss. Fly high Captain!

[@flyinga320]

As an airline pilot myself, I never tire of breaking out from an overcast departure into the blue sky up above. Simply stunning

[@LordDonutz]

Not sure if you're still around after 11 years, but as a passenger I would have to agree. Popping out of that cloud cover is just as amazing from a side window.

[@goaroundgoaround]

rare to get such high def footage of a -200! good effort!

[@gustavonilson]

Still, the best video for me out on YT: Nice old steam gauged cockpit, great engine sound and a lot of details! You will be missed, Balleka! RIP wherever you are! :(

[@BlackLines]

wait, he passed away?

[@Fabri91]

@@BlackLines Yes, a soaring acciedent if I recall correctly.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

@@Fabri91 Yes... winch launch accident. :(

[@Awetothee]

Lol when the music came on at 4:23, I honestly thought the captain turned on the music with his A/T speed knob

[@umb747]

ahahahah

[@mitsnevets]

lol I thought he must have chucked in an 8 track

[@Diesel844]

Haha, same here

[@davidrobbio9816]

Me too I wasn’t expecting that

[@bruceapollo9300]

You all prolly dont care at all but does anyone know a method to log back into an Instagram account? I stupidly lost the password. I would love any tips you can offer me!

[@davidca96]

I love the old Boeing cockpits with all the analog gauges and engineer station, I know its all much improved with computers taking care of all that now but having 3 sets of eyes up there was always good.

[@michelgardes]

Along with a good old DC-10 and 727, this is one of the most beautiful cockpits ever! Great video, thanks for sharing!

[@philmontejano5971]

The DC 10 was much roomier. 74 cockpit isn't very big

[@bullwinklejmoos]

@@philmontejano5971 Flew all three and agree, DC-10 was the roomiest. Sure miss that bird. Actually miss all three.

[@mitsnevets]

I always loved the sound of those JT9s growling while climbing out

[@graemewilliams1308]

On the 727 we'd pop out of cloud, level off & skim on top up to 350 knots, passengers loved it & applauded every time.

[@beagle7622]

Long time since I have heard about the 727's climb.Not only passengers loved it , I first heard about it from a pilot. Loved the 727 & that beautiful swept wing, reasonable seating (in those days).

[@MontrealMan1970]

my 1st flight was AA 727 montreal to chicago sun, partly cloudy it was almost perfect

[@Inatsikap]

On the older Aircraft like 747-200 (older engines) the engine performance varies hence the uneven thrust levers - on aircraft that do not have auto thrust this is a real pain as the pilots have to constantly adjust individual thrust levers to keep engine performance within optimum operation.

[@Robert_N]

I believe the B747-200 has auto thrust. The one my dad RIP piloted had them. The uneven thrust lever settings are due to the mechanical linkages.

[@anthonycameron2067]

@@Robert_N that’s correct and a lot of slop it the cables from time to time

[@danishbegmirza]

I agree. The old 3-man cockpits were not only safer but these analogs are just beautiful. A true pilot's machine... My father flow a -200 and a -300 for 15 years. Loves the old bird. And the beauty of it is that he is manually flying it initially. Most modern aircraft are "Gears up, A/P ON"......

[@rahulbhatia7798]

I agree but even this type of aircraft had a fairly advanced autopilot. So which airline did your father fly for by the way?

[@P3DJumboJet]

Classic aircraft are also gear auto pilot. The difference is that you won’t use the same FMA you would go and set LNAV VNAV while you would fly INS or VLOC or HDG SEL with the IAS hold mode engaged with the old one, so in the end both are mainly auto pilot, classic and newer planes.

[@LJDRVR]

I love the old displays too. I grew up on the Collins FD-109. But the newer, two man airplanes have a far better safety record than those with an FE. I'd love to have an extra person in the cockpit, but those systems are now nicely automated and the navigation simple and low workload.

[@Puffmac1]

Very nostalgaic, but ask any current pilot and they will tell you the reduction in workload and vastly improved situational awareness afforded by the new systems gives them much more capacity to manage the aircraft.

[@koc988]

Eeh... thats not exactly true. The majority of crashes are due to pilot error. So I'd wager we're not more or less safe with the flight engineer gone from the cockpit.

[@renato.guardiola]

OMG, I really love buttons and dials. Unfortunately I will probably never fly such aircraft. Awesome work and plane!

[@DoubleCC00]

Nice vid! I loved the 747-200! Have worked in the 90s as a mechanic at LH (EDDF)!

[@TheHorsebox2]

Great video. Love the old school instruments. Way cooler than glass cockpit. Men flying an old warhorse. Class!

[@lvgfr]

Great, congratulations !!!! Long life for the 747-200, the mother of all others

[@hwoods01]

Wow.. a cool behind-the-scences video - then - "here comes the sun".. This is one of the VERY few videos with music that was appropriate.. AWESOME

[@plsniper]

In my opinion, this looks waaay better than a glass cockpit. This is a man's cockpit. Miss the old days...

[@jimlambert1398]

Pros and cons.... individual switches and instruments take up acres of panel room! Most common quote in a 'glass' environment...."How did we get into this menu???"

[@tomservo5007]

jim: 'how did we get into this menu' , lol . I say that a lot in my car

[@Elucidator-]

Looks outdated in my view. It gives it a museum look that does not fit.

[@flightfernando]

This is real flight, fully human in command!

[@airbusdriver7114]

What does a woman's cockpit look like?

[@ElonMoist]

i've always wanted to become a airline pilot but this video encourage me even more!!!!!, So i gotta finish high school and get a private flying lincenseand take 4 years of engerneering and then 4 years of Airforce ( mayb flying big plane not jets). Then gonna sign up for AA pilot then i'll work my way up to flying international! One last time Thank You for posting this video because it somehow made me feel that i should follow my dream. THANK-YOU

[@onecunningfox]

Best plane ever made. Long live the Queen, the 747-200! If it is good enough for the President of the United States (Air Force -1) it is good enough for any one! Best looking 747 to date. Wait for the new 748F - even better looking and no doubt pretty when surfing the clouds (like when Pan Am used to do back in the day). Thanls for sharing!

[@worldwildwest]

Gone in History but never Forgotten.

[@petehudson7616]

@manudan93 The second hand you see on the throttle is from the flight engineer, who is keeping the engine speed where it needs to be. The pilot still has the ultimate control over the engine speed, and has his hand there in case of emergencies, such as a rejected takeoff. That "third guy" is the flight engineer, who controls the airplane hydraulics, pressurization, electrics, air conditioning, fuel, etc. Modern 747's eliminated the need for an FE.

[@hwoods01]

@smacman68 no 747 pilot here.. But if you watch the engine gauges, it appears that the pilot was trying to balance out the engine for equal output/thrust. once he got them balanced, he advanced the throttle quadrant to start the take-off.. Any real 747 pilots are fee to correct my armchair observation of course.. ;)

[@charlie26PR]

I like this analog cockpit rather than the new glass cockpits!! Can someone answer me if the pilots are allowed to put music in the cockpit like them while flying??

[@PHJPC]

Another great video... you just have to love the classic!! Great edit and audio too.

[@htz26129]

Finally a very good cockpit video. Smooth camera, good quality. Thanks a lot...

[@TangoDelph]

@nathanfishing3000 the 1st officer was pilot in command,so the captain does the work of cleaning up the plane as it climbs out,flaps,gear,atc and autopilot etc...

[@thestig747]

@Andybucker It is similiar I guess you could say, but it is only for adding in the waypoints of your desired route. It is called the Inertial Navigation System, and you manually add the Longatude and Latitude of each waypoint of the flight plan, and when you set the Navigation Mode to 'Nav' i think, and turn on the AP, the aircraft will fly to the next airport. I'm not 100% sure, I am only 13

[@Ericb2424]

This is what you call old school traditional 3 man cockpit where the flight engineer assist with the engine spool up by pushing the throttle and keep an eye on his gauges I miss these days

[@SuperAviatar]

MK also visited Manston. On the last day of military 'ownership', an impromptu fly-in of many aircraft occurred. Rumour spoke of a fly past by a Nimrod..... up in the tower, eyes were glued to an oncoming line of black exhaust.... shouts of 'Here she comes now!!!!' The width of the plume was a giveaway to those in the know, DC8 engines are a little bit more separated than the Nimrod installation! I worked at Lasham in the 1990's, and got used to the MK DC8s arriving for maintenance... lots of African aircraft were serviced in the old Dan Air facilities. 727, 707 also appeared.

[@mrwifi1206]

Does anyone know what the pilot is doing with the throttles at 1:03?

[@johnduffy5448]

On the Pratt and Whitney it is very important to stabilize the power at 1.10 EPR (Engine Pressure Ratio) before pushing the the throttles up to full Takeoff Power. If you look at the top 4 gauges on the center instrument panel, you can see the EPR at 1.10, or pretty close to 1.10.

[@mrwifi1206]

@@johnduffy5448 Yes, I see that now that you have pointed that out. Very interesting. Thanks for your response :)

[@annafraley5388]

Timed just right, background music mysteriously starts 4:32 Then words come with it, Ahhh, it’s “ Here Comes the Sun” I know that song you think, then 4:40 B A M ... flight deck pops out of the Overcast at the Same time. ✅ Very Good video, as usual. You just Have to Love the Classics (-100 & -200’s)🤩🥰😍 Done plenty of those MAX T O 🛫 in them myself, good show 😎👍

[@danieladrianUrquiola]

Amazing, excellent, best quality, one of the very best offices in the whole world. Thank you for posting it.

[@guitarplayerfactorychannel]

I was thinking yes that's a slow heavy roll down the runway, mile to go, and it just popped up like a feather.. stunning power.

[@onebadlt123]

@KuostA Over time the throttles on some aircraft (older mainly) become a little more loose and not all respond equally. In addition, on 4 engine aircraft it may be required to power the inboard engines first (not 100% sure though as I only fly twins) for structural reasons. Also, that half way point on the gear is the neutral/disengaged position.

[@yoyoyoyoshua]

@flyinga320 yeah I also love sitting in the terminal listening to a 777 or a 747 or anyother heavy takeoff the sound is amazing.

[@motihoffman]

@mpk150 It looks to me like it was right around 3000 feet remaining on the runway + the displaced threshold / safety area (the paved area immediately preceding the runway numbers at the departure end) which is probably another 1000-1500 feet. 4500 feet of runway probably can stop the airplane in an emergency using max reverse + max brakes. It probably would result in a brake fire, but you'd probably stop the aircraft.

[@petershen1984]

the analog dials are amazing....

[@christophefolio91]

Wow ! Vr at 176 !! What is the procedure the Captain is doing with the thrust levers before setting takeoff power ? Why the 2 & 3 more advanced than the 1 & 4 ? Is this the normal thrust stabilization before setting takeoff thrust on a Boeing 747-200 ? And I woner also if they used assumed temperature ? Thanks if someone has these informations.

[@pc20011105]

+Christophe Folio Since they have a very heavy weight i dont think they used assumed temperature for take off. If you take a closer look at the N1 guage, engine 2 and 3's value is lower than 1 and 4, that's why he put extra power for thrust stabilization.

[@christophefolio91]

+sscheinfe it's about allowing N1 or EPR to be stable before setting takeoff power. For exemple in the 777 the power must be stable for both engines at approx. 45% of N1 for for a maximum Time of 2 seconds before setting takeoff thrust. It's made to avoid non symetrical power, calibrate the levers and ensure the engines can be stable before setting high power. Unstable engine can be a clue of a malfunction and non symetrical thrust can be an issue in case of wet runway, cross wind, rejected takeoff etc...

[@beagle7622]

Christophe Folio I read a book of a series of Qantas pilots careers and despite its size there was a number of comments about the Classics being not much different in Automation from the Boeing 707. It was basically a stick and rudder plane whereas the 400 was a huge step up on the levels of Automation? Qantas pilots of that era (talking Captains) often went from 707's to a couple of DC-4's ( yes 4) on the Sydney Norfolk Island route to 747's.I don't remember the books name but it was interesting reading.

[@graemewilliams1308]

In my old company the pilot flying would advance the thrust levers initially then when 80 knots was reached would call "80 knots, set thrust". The Flight Engineer would then manipulate the thrust levers & set max power. Once takeoff thrust was set, the FE would call "thrust set"

[@moateagle6819]

B747-200 is a fantastic airplane ! I want to ride it someday...

[@TheWuschelMUC]

What about the new Jumbo 747-800? There are not many 747-200 left...

[@yolsclassics6347]

the chances of thst happening are EXTREMELY slim =/

[@rodrigoaalonso_]

Almost 60 seconds speeding down the runway for takeoff ??? WOW very impresing, its so true that the 747-200 make late lift-offs

[@BrigTrapattoni]

@addi138 Nope. The pilot advances the throttles, while looking outside (due to obvious reasons), and someone has to take care he don't exceed engine limits, and 'fine tune' (equalizing, and adjusting into limits) the power. Remember there are four engines, and even though they are the same model, each one behaves slightly different, so it is necessary to adjust one by one so all of them brings the same power. This is done by the flight engineer.

[@Rotorhead6235]

What a beautifully shot video and I love the music edit at the end - thanks.

[@guidodeukuzeta1234]

god thers a really good diference between 747 400 and 747 200. what an improvement!!!

[@2R0bin0]

1:25, what a feeling this must be... Really like your videos mate, keep up the good work!

[@TheBlooRayChannel]

Had the pleasure of flying in that beast back in the day.

[@767driver]

Truly enjoyed my time flying the “Classic “!

[@LJDRVR]

This just makes me want to go back to work. This pandemic blows.

[@VIR092]

My God, that was gorgeous! I love the B742, such a beauty! Your video was superb and so detailed, wonderful editing work my friend! I'd love to get to fly a B747 classic sometime... Happy Flying! -Mark ; )

[@nick.w140]

The -200 is my favorite 747, its such an amazing aircraft. I love it!

[@JDefenseJ]

Awesome video! Great to see a little older B747.

[@MrEurocup]

request more videos of this flight. e.g. Preflight, Engine Startup, Taxi...

[@denverJPUE]

all your videos are great keep it up! love the music, it makes me feel like its going to be a good day(even though its already 10:30pm here lol)

[@dkgtoman]

Nice video, Balleka! Always enjoy your uploads. Thanks!

[@javkin]

@Balleka i believe he refers to the same amount of thrust in the 4 engines.

[@iheart545x39]

@silentscratch kinda feel like that is taken care of in first ten seconds of the video on the gauge... 370,000 kg with a 114,000 kg of gas on board on board so i guess the math is 815,710 pounds and 251,326 pounds of gas

[@FreightFox]

Lots of runway to spare, apparently the MTOW was the restriction and not the length of the runway to get up with that weight.

[@dddjjj1980]

The takeoff runway only 800 meters yet? Amazing!

[@pixelrobin4053]

airbus will NEVER EVER beat the 747 no matter how hard they try

[@FreightFox]

So true

[@ryxtoob]

I love aviation and planes, perpetually fascinated. Thanks so much for this video, very good quality :)

[@JELmusic]

Beautiful. Simply Beautiful :)

[@MalagaBoys]

This aircraft was put into storage about 1 months after this video was posted. The aircraft was then scrapped in 2013 so sad :(

[@CAL1MBO]

Good thing this video was recorded

[@MiG82au]

It's a very busy part of Europe that's in the way of many routes. Can't just get direct clearance from Melbourne centre to FL350 like I've heard in Australia.

[@spoonskills]

He's not. He's setting it to the off position which is in the middle. Once the gear is up and locked there is no more need to have the hydraulic pumps resources being used for the gear.

[@MrCars]

Great film, may I ask why u guys push the 2 inboard engine throttles first and then the outboard 2 after?

[@robd2860]

Could be 2 things here - Some engines as they get older need a little more throttle & could just be throttle rigging. Basically they’re not lining up the levers, but they are throttling the engines to be in sync with the others. The pilots are going off the gauges, not throttle position.

[@tmiwithamg9581]

great video...jus wondering which airline is this

[@patrickcramer]

@Gatman1 I think he meant why they set different N1 for engine 2 and 3 instead of set full for all 4 engines...I wonder the same...

[@fxdesca]

thats an awsome video...what camcorder did u use ? if yu got some more with this quality, please share

[@larrybueno]

NICE AND INTERESTING VIDEO,WHAT FLAPS SET DID YOU USE? WHAT´S THE USED RUNWAY LENGHT AND AIRPORT ELEVATION?

[@flightoftheunknown]

Awesome video! Very steady camera work!

[@Sams911]

After years of flying "glass" cockpit airplanes that do just about everything for you... MD11, A320, Citation X, etc... I'm going to start training on the -200 and I'm a bit worried I forgot how to fly!!! back to basics!

[@smacman68]

@hwoods01 Yeah, I can see that. In the end, he pushed all four up equally. Impressive take-off with that much weight. hard to believe it flies at all!

[@smacman68]

Wow. Used alot of that runway, but looks like you had some to spare. At the beginning, the pilot pushes the middle two throttles up, pulls them back a bit, then advances all four. Any reason for that? Just testing the two inside engines? Great video. I felt part of it, and that's cool. I would rather fly a 747 than a fighter.

[@Dutchbird757]

As usual, a pleasure to watch. Great audio edit as well! ;-)

[@helios1912]

Great job capturing a max weight take-off in a -200. About a 40 year old airplane?

[@andrewmalik3737]

Why did the captain adjust the #2 and #3 engines before advancing the throttles?

[@nightflyer3242]

To match the thrust readings on the other engines. The 747 Classic does not have a TO/GA option for its autothrottle, only IAS hold.

[@johnduffy5448]

@@nightflyer3242 Some of the later model -200s that I flew did have a TO/GA selection on the auto-throttle system. But since it was expensive to maintain and not required per the DDPG/MEL, as soon as there was a problem with the system, instead of fixing it, the airline would de-activate the entire system.

[@johnduffy5448]

After he is cleared for takeoff, the Captain is setting 1.10 EPR on all engines for a few seconds to stabilize the engines before pushing the throttles up to max takeoff power. About halfway to max power you hear the Captain say "SET THRUST" . Then you can see the Flight Engineers hands on the aft throttles and he will fine tune the EPR to the max power setting of around 1.52 depending on airport temperature and pressure. EPR is Engine Pressure Ratio and you can read this indication on the top 4 gauges of the center panel.

[@alex471996]

Are there still 747 200 in service. If I could one day fly one I would love to but by then, things will have probably moved on.

[@MultiHungryeyes]

great job guys. keep up your excellant work and to the uploader of the video, im hoping youll do some more of these if and when ya can. you also did a great job also.

[@grantourismo0109]

@Balleka but it is 371 ton !

[@alex471996]

So I assume that this video was made in early 2010, does this mean there are many 747 - 200, it has always been a dream to fly older planes as opposed to new ones, I don't know any passenger airlines that would train people on 747 - 200 / 737 -300s. There are freighting companies that fly old 'second hand' planes but none that I know of in the UK. Is flying any sort of 'analogue' flight deck a realistic dream in 10 years time?

[@KuostA]

why did the pilot unevenly do 2 throttles up down up down, than the rest? also, why does the captain set the gear from clean up to the half way point? wat setting is that?

[@andrewmalik3737]

The gear is the OFF position. It's so the hydraulic system isn't running all the time. The gear then is held up by big hooks in the wheel well.

[@n00bIEwaN]

just dialing it in boss...looks good definitely an awesome way to spend the day IMO...

[@houshidar558]

nice video soo since you guys are at MTOW im guessing it was a FULL throttle take off?

[@SuperAviatar]

I dunno.... in the real world, all the concentration, nervous tension and hard work is mostly behind you when established in a comfortable climb.... when the aircraft breaks through thick cloud into sunshine, it's a good feeling.... and the song fits....!!! Relax and enjoy the ride.

[@greyjay9202]

Analog all the way. Real flying, with a 3 man crew up front.

[@smdump]

The beginning of the video shows an instrument reading Gross WT. Is that a measure of the weight of the aircraft? How is that measured?

[@LeonelEBD]

@atharva98 FL means Flight Level, when you say 100 is 10000 feets, add 2 zeros... other examples .... FL050 = 5000 feets, FL 370 = 37000 feets and 500 would be 50.000 feets, only fighters, rare military planes (U2, SR71) and concorde like planes are likely to reach that alt.

[@s4minplays227]

Gorgeous retro cockpit ❤

[@w5cdt]

Was that the 1000' marker at the other end of the runway I saw ?

[@trek1s]

Amazing, as always. Thanks for uploading.

[@mzrzfxr]

This plane (G-MKEA) is no more, scrapped :-(

[@keltonreis1]

Nice captain, very nice yor movie... i love this job, i love aviation... and the music is the best for occasion!!! Congratulation!!!!!!

[@TheStartARiot]

@BrigTrapattoni thats not really true, contact lenses do not damage the eye if the air is dry and the eye is healthy. cockpit air is conditioned like in many places today, i never heared of someone who actually had his eyes damaged by dry cl's. worst thing that can happen is a discomfortable feeling, but thats not really called a safety risk. Anyways, my faulty vision prevented me from flying those beuties myself :-(

[@MrPceneviva]

"autothrottle (automatic throttle) allows a pilot to control the power setting of an aircraft's engines by specifying a desired flight characteristic". Thrust must be properly set to avoid under/over power. In one case you damage the engine and in the other case... well, in the other case you are driving a very expensive car against the wall in the end of the runway

[@kustomizer90]

There are about 50 active 747-200 at the moment (1 year after yoir post), and 4 preserved in museums.

[@Andybucker]

@Balleka Hi! Great video! Is this an older FMC you guys are using?

[@Alien595]

A/T stands for autothrottle. Think of it as the cruise control on a car. You tell the computer which speed you want the aircraft to fly at and the computer handles the throttles to achieve said speed.

[@euroaab]

Nice video! Is it possible to use autothrottle on B742 when AP in IAS mode? If yes, what thrust will be set up by A/T?

[@addi138]

is the throttle quadrant of the 747-200 so hard that it requires two hands to push forward???

[@robd2860]

Not difficult, just engine management. In modern aircraft beginning the takeoff roll, the throttles are advanced slightly, and then autothrottle continues the throttle up to a preset EPR or N1. It is too much work for the pilot flying to keep the aircraft going straight down the runway and precisely set engine power at the same time, hence the needed help from either autothrottle or in this case, the flight engineer. Sometimes it’s also the first officer helping.

[@MUNCHLAXSNORLAX22]

How much pitch up did he rotate to?

[@aeroengines1]

and it appears as though the A/T is placarded as "deactivated" on this particular a/c in any case??

[@martinair623]

This is osend, Belgium (the country below the Netherlands). They speak there Dutch and French