Boeing's China Problem

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Sound by Graham Haerther (www.Haerther.net)
Thumbnail by Simon Buckmaster
Music by epidemicsound.com
Select footage courtesy the AP Archive
China Eastern 737 Takeoff Video Courtesy PDX Aviation
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[9] www.airbus.com/newsroom/news/...
[10] www.wsj.com/articles/boeing-a...
[11] www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/bu...
[12] www.apnews.com/88d5235d210740...
[13] www.marketplace.org/2019/02/1...
[14] www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...
[15] www.mhi.com/news/story/190625...
[16] ukranews.com/en/news/612803-a...
[17] www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/ne...

[@TheLorax787]

We’ve had Boeing’s China Problem. We’ve had China’s Geography Problem. Now to complete the trinity we must have... Geography’s Boeing Problem

[@16kashman]

Boeing's geography problems: Boeing is situated in Washington state, which has a lot of forest, water bodies and mountains. And planes can not fly through these things. Unless you see two skyscrapers and hijack couple of planes.

[@keksitzee1094]

Sounds like a video to cover the attempts of Boeing aircraft trying to hug the earth, and the two notorious cases where they've succeeded.

[@RandomboiSam]

@@16kashman bruh the planes can just fly _over_ them

[@Septimus_ii]

See: global warming

[@davidliu2243]

MCAS vs terrain

[@blemone7481]

A video about planes AND China? What is this, some sort of crossover episode?

[@billkariri]

It's a self crossover

[@lionlife3917]

Didn‘t expect mr.peanutbutter to be here

[@rock3tcatU233]

Crossover Productions.

[@justinliu7357]

Bill I broken my own ankles doing that

[@lucimon97]

Most ambitious crossover ever

[@bladerunner12]

"Perhaps Boeing's largest problem is still to come." Buddy, you had no idea.

[@garyenkwong1683]

bladerunner12 haha😅

[@maxnava6136]

Anubhav Jais corona

[@David-lr2vi]

Coronavirus: I’m going to end Boeing’s whole career!

[@heidirabenau511]

2022: 787 deliveries halted for 14 months

[@pimpabootejettanut122]

From 2024: Yup. Still coming.

[@jackwilbur9419]

No airplane company should EVER. Be able to self certify anything on their plane. Like a fox in a chicken coop

[@joefreeman2799]

Actually I'm not aware of any human area of endeavor the does a good job of riabily reviewing monitoring and disciplining itself and it's own capers i.e Mistakes errors and misconduct. That includes thr Ccp who police department s

[@yoyozent]

No one is above big corporations! No one has the right to check them!

[@indranilchakrabarty4196]

Yes. What about the Police

[@sangay9361]

The thing is that car manufacturers and every other kind of manufacturers do it themselves. This is because it costs a lot to do those tests and such extensive tests are (usually) already done by the manufacturers so they can verify the result and usually states are happy to take those results as confirmed. This is also how VW was able to cheat on its exhaust scandal

[@jackwilbur9419]

Sangay I agree but car manufacturers can,t kill hundreds in one shot or fall 40,000 feet

[@stapler3063]

Please make a vid about how airline alliances work (Star Alliance, SkyTeam and Oneworld). 😁

[@MattiaMonticelli]

I always wondered how they worked!

[@honestyisthegucci]

Yess

[@davidtitanium22]

Make it happen!

[@AndreaZzzXXX]

good idea !

[@The-Mov]

I always wondered why some airline pairs for longer flights required a self-connection, and others don’t. Is that alliances?

[@canadianplanespotter]

"A new aircraft was delivered to a Chinese airline every 21 hours". Wow, sounds like you should make a video on how manufacturers deliver their aircraft to airline customers! :)

[@blackdoveyt]

Or how china destroys the climate with jet exhaust. We need to get China to ban planes, ban coal and rebuild all their houses to save the planet! Think of how many emissions we could reduce! They're the world's biggest polluter! We have to stop climate change!

[@knd775]

Canadian Plane Spotter They fly them.

[@canadianplanespotter]

@@knd775 Fascinating -_-

[@andyw_]

Black Dove's KZbin Channel lol

[@IntellectualHazard]

I think the Chinese would make and deliver planes every 5 hours

[@xjhao3125]

2 crashes, 346 deaths. And FAA give authority to Boeing to review themselves?? Very fishy

[@test-mm7bv]

china quality - boeing is learning about the local market

[@bickyou4696]

@@test-mm7bv Just blame China for every American fault

[@limerickman8512]

Boeing is able to sell, because people like you choose to fly in their planes, via airlines. It is called a market.

[@Isa-cr7fd]

The FAA and Boeing are very close due to both being American. The FAA lets Boeing get away with lots and cut corners to beat airbus/catch up when it comes to tests. This happened in both the Dreamliner and the 737-8 cut so many corners and was so rushed to compete with Airbus’s new engines they literally stuck the new fuel efficient engine ABOVE the wing so they wouldn’t have to change the design as the engine was larger and if it was below the wing it would hit the ground. This proved to be fatal and caused the planes to stall!!

[@limerickman8512]

@Hernando Malinche Boeing is not the only aircraft manufacturer. Multiple airlines used multiple airplane manufacturer's. Same with type of transportations. Your fears are unfounded as if you fear airplanes, then either heart attacks and cancers are far more likely to kill you than any airplane, even those with poor maintenance.

[@user-tb4bo9sd6l]

Boeing:we will fix the max problem shortly, please be patient. China:ok I will be waiting for you. Coronavirus:you know what? no one is going to fly anymore.

[@kimberlywilliams7543]

Trump Considers Halting GE Venture’s Engine Deliveries to China CFM venture between GE and France is asking for license to export the LEAP 1C jet engines for China Trump administration is considering a proposal to stop deliveries of jet engines co-produced by General Electric Co. for the Comac airliner being built in China, a potential escalation an protective trade measure bu US could inflict harsh trade by the US Government. The administration may decline to stop the license license allowing CFM International, a joint venture of GE and France’s Safran SA, to export more of its LEAP 1C jet engines to China. People familiar with China's thievery of jet engine technology could be reversed engineerd by the dishonest Chinese Governmement.

[@SM_Fato]

underrated

[@wshtb]

Honestly I think the coronavirus thing is a blessing for Boeing. It takes a very long time to certify a plane. For the 737 max, the problem is even worse, because it has fundamental design flaws. Boeing can't go out and fix these design flaws, so it must use software to smooch them. After the two accidents and the loss of life, I personally wouldn't want to fly in a 737 max no matter what the FAA says.

[@daniyalali4055]

Planes and China together You’ve combined your hobbies

[@alexfactory5426]

Daniyal Ali Soo true 😂😂

[@phil9916]

Daniyal Ali next video: USA's TRAIN PROBLEM

[@syedatif8806]

@@phil9916 In this channel seldomly you will see any problem in America

[@AndrewSephiTV]

I think he has a crush for Chinese lolies.

[@MrMediator24]

@@phil9916 guess what...

[@dereksgc]

A new plane: *exists* Ryanair: we can do $20 each if you can do 800 seats

[@alek488]

DerekSP they will probably order like 500 for like 1 million dollars each

[@jesusgonzalez6715]

Ryanair did some "advise" on the C919. Which is not notable in the actual (probably minimal) input they actually gave, but huge news in them saying publicly to the world (and Boeing) "we're talking to other airplane makers". Which is of course the point...

[@16kashman]

How big or influential is ryanair? Cuz i have no idea.

[@thierryvt]

@@16kashman When looking at passengers moved Ryanair is the 2nd biggest operator of Europe with 140 mill passengers in 2018, second only to the Lufthanza group at approximately 145 million passengers. Though I should note that the Lufthanza group consists of multiple individual operators, if you'd split them up then Ryanair would be first by quite a large margin.

[@user-xu2xx6pc3o]

kaushik ghosh Ryanair​ is well known for their landing skills.

[@BrentGardner]

"self-certify" is a nice way to say corruption.

[@irishbloke99]

u can bet lobbying got that!

[@titanicbigship]

That’s bad wait till you hear about the DC 10

[@TijmensAviation]

that ARJ21 is like a plane version of Berlin Brandenburg airport

[@tamaslapsanszki8744]

I'd like thiscomment, but it's at 69 upvotes and i don't want to change it

[@gteixeira]

The first plane Boeing made was much less complex than the ARJ21. In fact they took a good 30 years to make their first jet liner and that was with a lot of government aid since the project was originally a military one.

[@markstuckey6639]

In China most big companies are government owned, in the USA most government is big company owned.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

No wonder these two nations are on a collision course.

[@Endika98]

@Harold Potsdamer hahahaha, wtf, how you simplify that so much! -.-

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

@Harold Potsdamer Ah! Dream. The government of the people, by the people and for the people complemented by the economy of the people, by the people and for the people.

[@pakan357]

In capitalist America, company owns you.

[@scampishchicken2589]

naive

[@xeroxsos3659]

"There seems to be some news of planes development related to China" Wendover Productions : Oh yeah, it's all coming together

[@ursodermatt8809]

@grimm reaper good luck

[@badguy1481]

I did an avionics certification at Boeing in 1980. At that time Boeing had TWO competing engineering groups to develop new products. One group was called (the best I can remember) "Product Engineering". The other was called "Staff Engineering". The job of the "Product Engineering" group was to layout the "nuts and bolts" of the product installation (hardware design...wiring diagrams, etc). The job of the "Staff Engineering" group was to test the installation to see if it met all safety considerations. Of course there were many disputes between the two groups...arguing "nuts and bolts" considerations against "safety" ones. I had heard, the "Staff Engineering" groups were downsized and/or possibly eliminated, to "speed up" certification of new systems. If that is true (but I hope it's not), Boeing's move to save a little on development and engineering costs, cost them BIG BUCKS paying reparations for their 737 Max fiasco.... a payout that might have otherwise been avoided if they spent more time (and $'s) evaluating the operation of their new pitch control system...that caused those two crashes.

[@adamthomas8069]

It's a new world, #BadGuy1, and everyone will have to(?) follow China's lead in its taking over the world's transportation systems and follow the Chinese far different attitude to "casualties" from its expeditions in taking over the world...

[@michelcharbonnier7603]

Man, how much half a year can change. In September, Boeings goal seems to have been to stay the #1, now their only goal is to somehow survive for a few more weeks.

[@patriciaw1137]

"This is an aircraft particularly suited to China's geography." I think he out-Wendovered himself

[@ursa81]

Lol yeah as if the A320s, A220s and earlier B737s are not also perfect for the exact same geography 😆

[@comityoun9300]

China next wwⅢ

[@rickfeng4466]

The best aircraft was actually the 757, because there are just so little slots(because of the military) for so many passengers and the airport was not big enouth for the likes of 767 or A330.

[@Shadogi]

Can you do more Geography problem videos? Those were my absolute favorite!

[@tm03035]

yes

[@birrymays]

"Best I can do is planes"

[@dogetea]

He should do europe or Australia

[@lildrippa1759]

Yes yes

[@risannd]

Indonesia Geographic Problem

[@RonzigtheWizard]

Good show and so very well thought out statements.

[@korathmathew]

The writing on the wall is clear. It's just a matter of time before they start manufacturing aircrafts and start exporting. USA is only speeding up the process.

[@frankpinmtl]

How do you get your very own 737 Max? Buy a piece of land and wait...

[@stormysamreen7062]

nice

[@asp4497]

Pitch this on Shark tank

[@frankpinmtl]

@@asp4497 Kevin O'Leary will ask too much

[@Inkling777]

Yeah, but if you end up with one it's likely to "need work"-meaning putting a million pieces back together.

[@frankpinmtl]

@@Inkling777 Details, details

[@zacharymohammadi]

Wendover: * makes vid on China * Me: oh is this about China’s economic laws? Wendover: *P L A N E S*

[@SixFootScream]

Planes are awesome.

[@swissbreeze]

Zachary Mohammadi you’re hilarious dude I would’ve never known he made video about planed if you didn’t comment on every single video about it!

[@BirdRaiserE]

I'm afraid you'll need to go to polymatter for the economic vids, pal. This is plane country.

[@zencezzz3760]

The most ambitious crossover in recent history

[@riograndelocos9639]

trains are better

[@JackyDawg12]

"Just by LOOKING at this plane, you can tell it's built to compete directly with Airbus' A320 and Boeing's 737" uhhh no I did not notice that

[@ernodios]

Looks like a dreamliner to be honest 😆

[@johnbloss2542]

Trade war with china,stop info to them,stop supply of items to build planes.what is wrongwith the world,has it forgotton who caused the virus.and continuous to harm other countries economies.starve them into submission.

[@ExternalInputs]

Try looking at the size of the plane, the body width and passenger capacity instead of the inside of your ass.

[@williammcfadden8037]

737 was flying way before airbus.

[@1227leochin]

@@johnbloss2542 Where the virus came from？ Originally from you？ The world don't even know. How do you know?

[@theunboxingexperience3480]

Top notch quality! Keep up the good work

[@tzwacdastag8223]

RealLifeLore : Real things in life. Wendover production : Planes forever (literally in every video). Half as interesting : Full as interesting.

[@randomdude9135]

Bendover**

[@randomdude9135]

Hotel? Trivago

[@PedroEmanuelMusic]

What does WH mean?

[@taipizzalord4463]

Mustard: Trains and Planes

[@Gardz]

This comment makes no sense

[@Chezzy]

Perfect, just what I needed to avoid doing my homework!

[@KrekreDoBusao]

Go do your homework! Haven't you watched til the end? You gotta keep improving yourself!

[@bw1678]

You probably learned more from this than your regular curriculum any way.

[@sweep_swoop]

I listened to this while doing my homework

[@guremi_]

@TeamHansen19 we don't know it yet. Maybe he's going to be a KZbinr once he found out he failed on his study. Gotta learn them videos while he can

[@RyuKimGaming]

And the GRE Test!

[@TheMrFishnDucks]

Fantastic video. Looking forward to the ABC future and how the Comac planes perform. Keep up the good work.

[@123fourfive5]

Does take a genius to figure out somethings wrong when two of the same plane crash within months of each other. And it doesnt take a genius to figure out the FAA is a biased authority (And is basically owned by Boeing)

[@shogunofjapan6833]

1 2 3 Four Five regulatory capture is the phrase you’re looking for

[@mickeydoolittle2057]

1 2 3 Four Five I don’t think it’s that simple & the FAA is not owned or run by Boeing. Where Boeing went wrong is when they let the accountants run the show. Lion Air has much blame for not taking that particular accident out of service. The previous flight nearly crashed. The Ethiopian crew had all of the emergency communication from the Lion Air crash, but crashed anyway.

[@gr8cescale]

The FAA is to Boeing as Boeing is to the American government.

[@David-lr2vi]

@@shogunofjapan6833 “Regulatory capture” is just a nice way of saying corrupt!

[@wshtb]

It only takes a genius to decide an air plane manufacture should be trusted to certify their own planes.

[@josephjackson1956]

Wendover Productions: Airplanes PolyMatter: China Both: This video

[@Kishishev1903]

Wendover = ✈️

[@toyotasupra1141]

Ahahaha true af

[@PaulusCunctator]

speaking of, I never really got an answer before why is polymatter so furiously supportive of anything china related and focuses on them so much?

[@vtron9832]

Real Life lore, Toyota Corolla

[@chickfighter5587]

@@PaulusCunctator For views i guess

[@SteveBueche1027]

The FAA shouldn’t have ties to anyone except the people and their safety.

[@mickfunny4185]

Jackson Brown you clearly haven’t met Senate Majority Leader Moscow Mitch

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Man, Just like COMAC is a Chinese govt-owned airplane manufacturer company, US govt. is a Boeing (and other corp.) owned govt.

[@53smalltrain]

In the mid 70's, FAA always popped up the 747 un-announced before boarding on international flights, hand picked one or two f/a at random to have a sudden quiz on emergency evacuation procedures . i wonder do they do it nowadays?

[@pasodeminick]

This is actually the biggest issue with the 737-8-9/Max: the the total loss of confidence in the FAA by other countries and regulators. Before all the MAX "issues" were known, the "seal of approval" of the FAA for any american manufacturer was more than enough for any other country or group of countries (the EU) to consider the aircraft safe and properly checked. You could trust the FAA. EASA (European Aviation Security Agency) will now make its own second check of the MAX.

[@changamanga3419]

Yes ideally i should be that way. The problem is technology. Boeing has all the technology and FAA is dependent on Boeing.

[@danyala.1659]

COVID: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@jobakun3055]

Very informative and interesting video, as usual 👍🏻

[@JamesSoult]

If only Boeing had cared about getting a quality plane out, instead of just meeting a corporate deadline for as cheap as possible.

[@aandwdabest]

Interestingly, some CEOs are opposed to quarterly earnings - saying that such metric often hurt the company in the long run.

[@jlassijlali290]

i really watch a documentary about that issue! they really care only about the money! and i know their greed will be their doom!

[@coldcoilinc]

If you think Boeing wanted a problem then you're crazy. The last thing they wanted was what's happening. Nice try though

[@JohnHill-qo3hb]

Never, ever let the accounting department run your company, they work for you, not the other way around.

[@Scrizal]

@@coldcoilinc Then they should've act like they don't want any problem.. That's like saying "oh just because i don't study, it doesn't mean i want to fail" .. See how stupid that is?

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

I misread the title at first as BEIJING'S China Problem and I was intrigued. Now I see it actually says BOEING... *_AND NOW i'M EXCITED_*

[@prim16]

Ironic that you're excited considering Boeing is only one letter from Boring

[@MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot]

@@prim16 funny.

[@prettypic444]

A video about Beijing’s relationship to the rest of China would be fascinating (particularly the minority and autonomous zones considering what’s happening in Hong Kong)

[@robparke2323]

Excellent presentation - and I should know being an FSB and having had a 21year career at State.

[@marcelogouveia9614]

Wendover productions: "Everybody has a PROBLEM" LOL....

[@mr-rio2819]

This guy really can't go a month without making an episode about planes

[@flashtirade]

I wouldn't have it any other way

[@randomuser5443]

No

[@chunchoi4434]

Plane is interesting

[@zealman79]

You can't 5 mins without having a moan about something.

[@qaiser648]

zealman79 ok boomer

[@scanida5070]

China: **Makes even more problems for Boeing** Boeing: *NOW THIS IS AN AVENGERS LEVEL THREAT*

[@E1craZ4life]

China: “I am inevitable.”

[@shahimagesyt]

@@whannabi Chinese airlines will fly comac. They literally just carbon copied A220. And their C292 is a CC of the A350 and 787. When will they make something ORIGINAL

[@georgedang449]

@@shahimagesyt Both "copies" are more fuel efficient than their Airbus counterparts that are supposedly copied. Airlines these days have razor thin margins - they live and die by fuel efficiency. You can accuse the Chinese of whatever you want, these planes are going to sell.

[@shahimagesyt]

@@georgedang449 I'm not saying they arent going to sell, I'm saying is if they're gonna build and aircraft, at least try to make sense of originality in design. The fuel efficiency part can leave out since everyone is doing it.

[@georgedang449]

@@shahimagesyt Laws of physics are what they are. Wheels have to be round, square wheels don't work. Neither the Chinese nor anyone else will use a less aerodynamic shape and ruin their fuel efficiency just for your amusement. The only innovation the Chinese had for C929 was using larger percentage of light composite material, in places of the plane that Boeing/Airbus previously thought not possible or not cost effective using old western manufacturing process. That's where the edge in fuel efficiency came from, not the shape. It's not the '50s. The most fuel efficient shape has already been calculated down to every last drop of fuel by supercomputers. Commercial airliners will stay boring to you for the foreseeable future.

[@maxheadrom3088]

Just a note about Embraer, Wendover: the company was created by the Brazilian government in the 1969 and developed its airplanes in-house. The joint venture with Boeing came about after Bombardier did its own joint venture with AirBus - quite recently.

[@Emperorvalse]

I agree with this video and IMO one of the most informative videos WP have recently produced. With the "trade war" I thought Boeing was very vulnerable and the grounding and return to service of the 737 Max series is a very powerful lever against the US. I understand the increase in point to point routes in the tier 3 cities but I have always wondered why Chinese airlines did not order more A380s to reduce the slot constraints at the major airports. With the way EK uses that A380 gave Chinese airlines a template of how to deploy them.

[@fludblud]

Hearing a public company say the word 'self regulate' is almost ALWAYS a giant red flag.

[@shinnyii]

Take a shot every time he says *“Chinese”* *“Boeing”* *“MAX”*

[@kierancalder8573]

You killed my son!

[@joshuav9005]

not SirBeasty he says “Chinese” “Boeing” and “max” in a video about China, Boeing and the 737 max? No way.

[@keeganmoonshine7183]

@@kierancalder8573 not the boy!

[@bumfist88]

Brb grabbing my bier

[@CitySlicker34]

Dude I have alcohol poisoning now, FUCK

[@abhisheksahu8753]

Please make a video on logistics of movie making..for example all aspects of avengers,from star cast to planning to VFX pipeline

[@devanshkamdar8244]

that's actually a great idea

[@funnymonkeee9803]

The main reason China is developing their own planes is to keep up with Chinese demand for airliners. There is too much demand. China cannot wait years for an airliner. Also old planes have to be replaced with new planes because of air safety regulations. So there is a huge growing backlog for airplanes

[@commonsense31]

737MAX destroyed FAA’s credibility and that will be costly!

[@mybumbrash]

FAA lost its credibility over the past 20 yrs.

[@lostn65]

It wouldn't surprise me if FAA was receiving checks from Boeing tbh.

[@andersenzheng]

FAA gave up its credibility when they let Boeing to grade their own homework.

[@andersenzheng]

@@lostn65 I was be very surprised if Boeing doesnt. They spent 15 million dollars on lobbying alone last year, and thats just documented amount from a quick google search. imagine how much money do you have to give your college professor so you can grade your own work.

[@JackieChan-eq6jz]

They deserve everything of the crashing.

[@res0nance197]

Boeing: No, we won't pay you billions of dollars for compensation. China: We could always go to Airbu- Boeing: No! You shall not use the A word.

[@chickfighter5587]

Thank god for Duopoly!

[@serenachen9385]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@devikakarmakar99]

To all the people who love there family never be a passanger on a Boeing 737 max. It has a major design problem and very high stalling chances.

[@devikakarmakar99]

@Hal 9000 keep your trap shut and stick to your toilet paper world.

[@77.88.]

@Hal 9000 My you folks sound like very intelligent people born with a sewer mouths?

[@refrweerf]

Hal 9000 just go away, ignore this troller to whoever reads this.

[@puma.will.pounce7590]

@Lucas Wu - Yeah, the U.S. is so "third world" that everybody wants to move here and nobody wants to move to your shit country.

[@thunderboltcalgary1559]

I was at the Evervett Factory tour earlier this year. I was told by the tour guide that the 737 series is now being produced at their North Carolina plant instead.

[@an-tm3250]

No union at this site. They send their screw ups there. You don't think they sent their best employees down there? Threaten them with layoff or a move. Works every time.

[@stcredzero]

When I went to the Museum of Flight in Seattle, I passed by so many China Eastern planes parked at Boeing.

[@andrewmcclure2905]

Been there twice. Epic place. Dis you sit in the SR71 pilot seat?

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

Whoah?

[@sammeir4145]

Andrew McClure what? SR-71 was there?

[@1mrs1]

They were probably 737 MAXs already ordered by China Eastern but unable to be delivered because of the grounding.

[@rasterb1aster]

classiccarz um ok Keep following the Alex jones cult I guess

[@noyearzero]

I love these long detailed videos about transport. Love this channel!!!!!!

[@pradeep8056]

competition is always good for customers

[@longfang98]

Who could have predicted a day when the CAAC, would have more credibility than the FAA.

[@jimbrown7748]

STUPID COMMENT .VICTOR YOEEEER

[@moneymikeslickwill8749]

Jim Brown 41 people disagree

[@e13kid]

hold my coronavirus

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

@Hernando Malinche only 500? that is rookie numbers for china

[@jcgongavoe337]

@Oh_ My_gawd lol what? you gotta be making a joke right?

[@Peichen01]

Boeing's problem are self-made. If they didn't cut corners on 737MAX it wouldn't be in such trouble.

[@PwerRanger01]

pretty much.

[@user-dq6ug5jw6q]

Care to explain how corners were cut, Boeing expert?

[@nothanks-nr2lk]

@@user-dq6ug5jw6q primary, secondary and tertiary language training on the mcas system (an ipad style bulletin was clearly ineffective) and trying to fit a bigger engine on an old style frame. The 75 could've fit those engines and saved that line but thats personal bias towards that gorgeous aircraft

[@user-dq6ug5jw6q]

@@nothanks-nr2lk Alright, cut corner implies Boeing knew the language training was ineffective but opt out of more in-depth training, can you explain how Boeing knew it was not adequate, and the trade study on the cost to sink more time into training mcas system vs training other aircraft operation, in relation to safety risk? 757 was a larger airframe, a size up from 737's role, can you provide the analysis on how modernizing 757 would still be viable as 737, and show how at the time of engineering development, the risk caused by the larger engine, despite mitigation measure, outweights the value lost by using the 757 platform? On a bonus, have you considered if you re-engineer 757 to fit the role 737 was supposed to fit, would it not have caused at least just as much aerodynamic stability problem as using a bigger engine on 737? If yes, can you explain this impact and how it would have been better mitigated by using 757 platform than 737 platform?

[@ridef0rlife]

@@user-dq6ug5jw6q do you work for boeing?

[@colonelkk]

Wendover Planes and Polymatter China. It's my lucky day

[@Kishishev1903]

KK ✈️

[@skyem5250]

There is precedent for the Boeing-Comac JV. In the 1980s, McDonnell Douglas (which merged with Boeing in 1997) co-produced some MD-80 series planes with Shanghai Aircraft Manufacturing Factory (yes, it was called "manufacturing factory") which is now the final assembly division of Comac.

[@airplaneengine1900]

B737max might be cheaper, also means less safety and less feautures The A320 might be more expensive but is safer and has atleast all important feautures without AI controlling it

[@cedricye1767]

Uh... no, the a320 relies on automation even more than the 737 MAX. Do you wanna know the fatal flaw of the MAX that the Frenchie doesn't have? The MCAS relies on a single sensor, every other anti stall system relies on two or more.

[@abbysnowmist]

Airplane Engine The A320 is actually more fly-by-wire than the 737.

[@TheMinimumPC]

Airbus has usually relied more on automation. But that just means they have more experience with making it safe and the pilots flying Airbus are more used to it = again more safety.

[@forgaoqiang]

Maybe, maybe not

[@AbrahamLupercio]

The CR929 is being developed by CRAIC which is a joint venture between Chinese COMAC and Russian UAC.

[@georgedang449]

Russians joined in half way, as the trade war happened. Trump's making Russia great again.

[@alexlo7708]

@@georgedang449 Yes, they also select non US engines development as choices between RR and Russian PD engines.

[@bryan90124]

George Dang totally absolutely and targetly right

[@laocongge]

Russians dropped out from the program because the Chinese side insisted on them getting all the revenue of the Chinese market whereas the Russians getting the revenue of rest of the world.

[@alexlo7708]

@@laocongge That's your imaginary. The CR929 finished it design detail and on process of making prototype. They share parts manufacturers like Airbus among EU countries.

[@raihanrizki2207]

"random dude coming from nowhere" *I BUILD FOR CHINA*

[@KevinRawbay]

this make me want to play original C&C

[@raihanrizki2207]

@@KevinRawbay the general one

[@Nickelodeon81]

It's very hot in here.

[@zomgitskai]

It will look *real* nice when it's done

[@emmanities2450]

With matching old Chinese guy sound.

[@huntyfla]

Wendover loves aviation which means I love wendover

[@TauCu]

that Segway was SMŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌŌTH

[@akeemlawrence9750]

Aviation management major here and I loved this video/ channel.

[@eldermoose7938]

I didn't know that was a major? Well regardless I appreciate what you do it's pretty facinating

[@owendiaram3870]

"Hey, that cloud looks like a Toyota Corola!"

[@me0101001000]

Wrong channel. Still funny tho

[@slaitm9289]

the fuck

[@hoodie4439]

The airbus beluga: imma bout to end these men whole careers

[@justyzhao5495]

the ending advertisement is a surprise！

[@intrepid1160]

Planes *and* China? Kronk: "Oh yeah, it's all coming together."

[@streamyoutub]

Finally a video of planes by none other than Wendover Productions. Much awaited ❤️

[@griddy9857]

I really do like how you make videos about aviation but I think that you should dive deeper about companies that are shaping the future for humanity like spacex or Boeing. I just think it would be really interesting for you to talk about the future

[@europeantransportphotographer]

Dear Sam, can you please do a video about the geographic problem of Iran?

[@isaacpreece2120]

I always wait for these types of videos

[@LegendNinja41]

why am i imagining a middle aged brit simply just waiting all day in front of his pc for these types of videos while sipping tea and wearing a monocle..

[@FroddyPlay]

I would really love to see SAAB make more commercial planes, with their long experience of all different types of planes i really think they could become a major competitor

[@doso4782]

It’ll never happen but I’d love it if they re-entered the automobile market

[@martijn9568]

SAAB is basically Swedens IKEA for the military market now

[@NE0MAS]

I work at Saab, ask me anything

[@FroddyPlay]

@@NE0MAS Dont really have to, both my parents to and also my brother does

[@alek488]

SAAB is a competitor in the jet fighter market

[@Gluluman]

In ten years the Chinese are not going to buy a single jet from Boeing.

[@theccpisaparasite8813]

Nope, they will have have stolen enough of Boeing's technology by then.

[@zeroandcl27]

@@garethifan1034 just lol

[@Danker19991]

Durian Durian No, America used the best German Scientists after the war to help in the Cold War.

[@markuax5046]

Lol, exactly like all of the Chinese ripoffs of LEGO and such.

[@jm3565]

Gareth Ifan yes, they did. without Operation Paperclip american post war aerospace industry would not have advanced at the rate it did. nasa would not have happened and the space program including the moon landing would not have happened without the german scientists. america kidnapped top german scientists at the end of the war and forced them to relocate and work for america in exchage for their and their families’ lives. these are well known facts, but don’t let that stop you from being a hypocrite

[@qinghuiou993]

correction: Boeing did collaborate with comac but set a very high price that china decided to do the long way.

[@uzasi669]

Woah, what is this. I got a wendover production video recommend to me after being posted 10 min ago?

[@akhashdhillon2159]

Reading this hurt my brain

[@mbamebe]

Someone loves the aviation industry very very very very very much =] great job!!! Keep up the good work!!!

[@thinkmackay8954]

Well done!

[@JEOGRAPHYSongs]

Still a better channel than Bendover Productions.

[@andreyazevedo683]

ye, they have too much "step-sis" content

[@alphaxalex1634]

No one: Probably no one: Wendover Productions: *Makes another Video on planes*

[@nicolasreinaldet732]

Would you do a video about Boeing and Airbus buiyng Embraer and bombardier ?

[@SisaMlove]

they're not bought Embraer nor Bombardier, they're just bought a SMALL division of Embraer and Bombardier. IIRC

[@nicolasreinaldet732]

@@SisaMlove I know about that, but i have sinplified everithing so i could make a shorter, more direct and easier to call atention coment. Ps: Not a small division but theyr bigest divisions.

[@Baseshocks]

@@nicolasreinaldet732 Airbus only owns 51% of the CS series aircraft, Quebec province of Canada owns 30% of the aircraft. They did not purchase Bombardier, Bombardier gave 51% of the CS series to Airbus to use their power to get those Delta sales to keep the production lines open. Bombardier has a option to buy back majority of the plane over a period of time.

[@nicolasreinaldet732]

@@Baseshocks I know about that, but i have sinplified everithing so i could make a shorter, more direct and easier to call atention coment.

[@nicolasreinaldet732]

@@Baseshocks Ps: By how defensive your coment is i guess that the C-series sale wased as polemic in Canada as EMBRAER comercial wased in Brazil.

[@enterfil]

It’s so sad that Embraer was bought by Boeing, Brazil is selling all of its companies

[@koyotekola6916]

Enter Fil Has Taurus been sold? I hope not.

[@antilove84]

Very Sad news, but it's expected consequence for the far right dominance. extremist are evil, right, left religious and wherever ideology they follows

[@koyotekola6916]

@@antilove84 Are you talking about Arabs or Iranians?

[@antilove84]

@@koyotekola6916 am criticizing fanatics from all religions, not just radical muslim , either sunni or shiaa (aka arab and iranian as they battle for power and dominance )

[@koyotekola6916]

@@antilove84 Then why are you criticizing the far right? I know there are extremists on both sides, but criticize only one? Hitler and Stalin were fascist, yet they were socialists, wanting total control. That's what the Democratic Party in America is all about. As soon as they consolidate power, it will be apparent what their grand plan is.

[@HristosPerhanidis]

You should also mentioned that Russia and China develop jointly a new plane (that Comac one)

[@DJAlexParker]

1 minute after release, 1k views, Wendover is basically notification king

[@dododakowski2813]

Xi JingKing

[@ekanem2954]

Wendover, PolyMatter and China walk into a bar...

[@SergentZ28]

Interesting to see that now COMAC as 3 orders of 35 frames from Air China, China Eastern and China Southern

[@badguy1481]

I supported the assembly of McDonald Douglas, MD-80's, in Shanghai in the mid 1980's. So China is NOT new to western aircraft assembly and avionics. A Chinese aircraft factory, in Shenyang, also assembled vertical tail sections for Boeing aircraft in the early 1980's. Boeing helped build their own competition by allowing the Chinese to strong arm them into assisting the Chinese aircraft industry and giving up manufacturing secrets to them...in order to get aircraft orders.

[@shaunakwarty]

Wendover Productions somehow managed to combine both of his common video topics: planes and China

[@digyourowngrave97]

Hell, I didn't know youtube even said posted __ seconds ago, I've never seen that before.

[@alexisjuillard4816]

Not enough aircrafts made this video half as interesting as a proper wendover video.

[@potato9147]

Lol it took me 15 minutes of this in next up to realize it didn’t say “Beijing’s China problem”

[@PlaystationMasterPS3]

as a boeing investor, I'm really growing cold on them

[@swissbreeze]

PlaystationMasterPS3 okay PlayStationMasterPS3

[@youngz13o]

Dont understand why you would invest in a company that doesnt invest in itself

[@baronvonlimbourgh1716]

You are missing out on a lot of growth markets and companies by investing in boeing. All these old giants are one step away from the ledge.

[@JohnSmith-dv5sr]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 New markets are risky.

[@arthas640]

@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 They're too heavily diversified to be on the edge, even if the Chinese quit buying commercial ariliners Boeing still has massive military divisions and they also make less noticiable things like satellites as well as various types of computer systems and parts for airplanes. They also either outright own, or own stock in various aerospace subcontractors so even when you buy from some "competitors" you may wind up with Boeing parts. Boeing is also starting to expand into the growing market of commercial space related equipment and will likely be a pioneer in future industries like asteroid mining. I hate to use the phrase since it's so overused/misused but Boeing is frankly "too big to fail" and even if they start to lag in commercial airlines, even if China slows down purchases or even stops purchases, there are so many different militaries and governments they sell to that Boeing is unlikely to fall off any ledge even if they do stop being the global leader in the aerospace industry

[@NaumRusomarov]

Tbh, the same is true for Airbus. Comac is a new player that has the potential to disrupt the entire airplane market, this is not something that should be taken lightly by the current players.

[@alexlo7708]

Given relationship between EU and China , Airbus no wonder would have it's share in China market for long znd so on. But Boeing might dim there. The US government's caused it.

[@ursodermatt8809]

keep on disrupting. russia does lots of disrupting, but certainly not in the airplane market

[@PwerRanger01]

I wouldn't fly on any of that chinese shite. They have garbage standards.

[@alexlo7708]

@@PwerRanger01 Until you find super standard on 737MAX.

[@valonvalonsoft3227]

@@PwerRanger01 Bet you typed this with either a laptop or a phone made in China

[@ankedparalkar]

Please make a video on Indian aviation market and challenges faced by airline companies.

[@Reitoft]

Many great insights in your stories. Watching particularly two with flights made me wonder. The one os about the 737-Max issues where you post comments about direct flights, availabilty etc. I fly about 100 days a year - and when I pick my airlines I often choose best option price wise, based on airline and their equipment. I don't know how much you fly, and I do know Americans often prefer Boeings over Airbus just because it's american, but flying the Airbus's are simply more quiet and more spacious, so important factors for me, when I choose airlines. Now this film is again to some extent favorising Boeing, since you put that as a perspective in your China review. I know it is almost a religious debate to talk about airbus vs boeing, and though I don't have any interest in either I can't help thinking why people at least not try to put into perspective what IS the best. One thing is the equipment, but for me noise, comfort, is two very important factors, and based on airliners I choose the ones with the best food, wine, entertainment systems etc. If you look at a company like Norwegian, they have cheap prices (they claim) using the 787 for their long-hauls, but if you compare to a A350 with Finnair, almost on all measures the Finnair beats the Norwegian - unless you don't drink or eat anything during your 8-12 hours flight !!! Coule be interesting to see a film from you less biased and actually looking into why people choose as they do. i.e. the trip over Iceland is great to understand and the very reason why I never chose American Airlines, WOW or Icelandic is simply because the total value is WAY less than flying Delta, Lufthansa or even Turkish Airlines - since the airliners are SO much better serving their clients. I personally always try to avoid AirFrance and British Airways - for the same reasons. I flew once a BA744-400 from Miami to London - it was more than 20 years old, and the comfort and space was SO bad... Well :-) Great work - I also work with films, in a different way (which is why I fly a lot), but your work is really cool!

[@raphaelr.1576]

FAA was never the world’s aviation regulator. That’s why ICAO exists

[@christopherbazaka1564]

oof

[@cnnewyam]

I think wendover more meant it as a „respected authority“ in global terms rather than a global regulator itself. The FAA only regulates US-Airspace anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@raphaelr.1576]

Jeffrey Johnson you are correct. For some member states it is a copy/paste situation, since the Chicago convention some differences have appeared but the fundamental core remains the same, which is why they made standards applicable worldwide, not necessarily to look like they copied since back then every states was doing whatever it wanted with regulations

[@ThisTheAviator]

@Jeffrey Johnson Except that it's the other way around,the annexes to the Chicago conventions were made to harmonize aviation and increase safety,the regulations are made by icao,then the countries that agreed to the convention can choose to implement them,make their own regulations or reject some and implement others.

[@alexlo7708]

Now Boeing manuals become FAA regulation. Good bye.

[@zJimmyDrew]

Another great video by WP. In fact, Hainan Airlines' major shareholder (24%~25%) belongs to the Governmnet of the province of Hainan. It's not quite accurate to say HNA is not a state-owned enterprise.

[@alantan9863]

If 51% is not owned by government, then it should be counted as a private enterprise. Government ownership is also common in other Asian countries.

[@aaronmoreno655]

I think the lyrics are a bit dull for a hot-button Swing song, but the bass line is killer!

[@dand4485]

I'm curious what Boeing is doing to really fix the problem with the 737 Max. Seems they really should either go back to the original engines designed for the 737, or redesign the 737 to not need the MCAS (the device that caused the crashes). Be even more maddening then the self certification Boeing was allowed to certify their own planes, not sure what has been to address that problem.

[@youngz13o]

I like your videos cause there not biased. Thank you

[@tropickman]

Biased much?

[@MrSvenovitch]

how about their they're there?

[@mattheus5286]

Holy crap. That is a lot of aircraft. Great video!

[@Frayne24]

"Liberty Prime Intensifies"

[@robertbalfour1654]

Your voice has became SOO deep