Boeing sales tumble as the company gets no orders for the 737 Max for the second straight month

The CEO of Boeing surprised lawmakers when he told them his company has not taken any new orders in two months. The airplane maker is also struggling to fill current orders. That puts more pressure on its customers, including Dallas-based Southwest Airlines.
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[@TheTexasDuke]

Apparently, the CEO is making like 38 million a yr … wtf

[@Youtubesuckshitt]

They have to reduce production cost on each plane to pay him

[@BillClinton228]

If you ask me he's not making enough... I'm sure they can cut more corners to pay him more. Maybe don't include wheels with the planes? Those arent' necesary right?

[@Bigyellowburner]

He gave himself a raise this year🤣

[@MrWiseinheart]

​@@BillClinton228😂 yeah, who needs those .. 🛞🛞

[@dooluv5769]

​@@BillClinton228I have an idea too. Get rid of the engines. Have tug push it fast down the runway until it reaches take off speed. At which point the wings will generate lift. Then fly it in the same direction as the wind so there is always "thrust". 😅😂

[@Xeonerable]

Whenever a company focuses solely on profit they always decline.

[@SW-fy8pq]

They will also blame China for every problem in Boeing. 😂

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@@SW-fy8pq but 350 people are gone

[@Eddieanthony-fs7is]

Airbus has been focusing on profits lately. The Airbus A220 production line is barely hanging on with trouble on the line

[@Aaron_R]

Ok - Mr. CEO. I'll start taking business advice from you.

[@niftynige]

Greed

[@lynnkramer1211]

Calhoun got a 45% pay raise, $28 million per year. Workers get 1% over 5 years. Tells you all you need to know.

[@Oceansta]

Its 33M/yr

[@IanCthrwd]

This is across the board in most corporate companies. Officers and management doing nothing but crunching numbers at a comfortable expensive desk while workers on the assembly line trying to make ends meet sometimes working weekends.

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@@IanCthrwd why are they keeping it shut ?

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@@IanCthrwd why are they keeping it queit

[@Carlotta_Lee_Ray]

And their planes are falling apart.

[@berubejj]

Having a business model of profit first, safety last tends to affect orders.

[@NeilHoward-kp2gc]

“Sales plummeted”…I wouldn’t use the word “plummet” at this point in time.🛩️💥

[@angelainamarie9656]

The sales' angle-of-attack sensors were miscalibrated and sent erroneous data to Boeing. Boeing responded by pushing the sales' nose down until they collided with the ground.

[@lolalasziv1059]

Let's say it crashed.

[@jessicaregina1956]

So what other words ?😂

[@verttikoo2052]

Yeah 🤔 Normally we would say that the sales crashed, but it is not appropriate in this case 🤔😬

[@greglane3978]

I would. It is accurate.

[@doglegjake6788]

It sounds to me like Boeing hired the CEO from General motors 😂

[@somapersona]

Even worse.. general electric

[@wadehiggins1114]

​@@somapersonano, worse. tesla

[@lynnkramer1211]

GM has a woman. Diversity Hire.

[@lindafukuyu5767]

No, it sounded like Boeing hired the CEO from the Street !

[@imathreat209]

​@somapersona you gotta fill me in on the GE ceo. What happened?

[@kevinsandstrom5833]

Maybe if they made having an Aerospace Engineering degree a requirement instead of an MBA to be CEO they wouldn't be here right now..

[@Rickets1911]

And the Boeing space orbiter, has two astronauts stuck in space atm..

[@richardwarren7492]

No, but continue being stupid - -

[@unggrabb]

At least the doors didn't fall off

[@1NicholasWeir]

​@@unggrabb yet..

[@soccerguy2433]

Boeing: Can't fall if there's no gravity.​@@unggrabb

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

Seriously ​@@soccerguy2433

[@engineered-mind]

Incompetent board, CEO and company

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

Corrupt

[@Karina_Engr]

Exactly, bring back the engineers, innovators, and the quality/safety personnel. ❤

[@FloorItDuh]

​@@Karina_Engrwhen Boeing was at its most successful time period in history it had a lawyer as a CEO. Mullenburg was an engineer and look what happened under him both the max crashes. Being an engineer does not necessarily make someone a good candidate to be the CEO of an aircraft company. Not saying it doesn't help but it is not the most important thing. Boeing leadership has fostered a bad company culture in the name of profit and fast cheap production. That is an executive decision, not an engineering one.

[@nenavasold4702]

borough TESLA's BOT to work for BOENG

[@Highly-censored]

Sales tumbled? This sounds like sales died!

[@angelainamarie9656]

It now also appears that it's just ours and their good luck that the astronauts they sent to the ISS didn't. They're on a real PR campaign here.

[@Throughthelurkingglass]

A well deserved failure, pray they receive no bailouts.

[@Cat_lover756]

Who wants to buy from a company where "whistle blowers" are dropping like C1inton interns?

[@dustsky]

LOL, yet chillingly true.

[@CrazyForCooCooPuffs]

You mispelled Clinton.

[@Cat_lover756]

@@CrazyForCooCooPuffs Cause breathing is my second activity.

[@CaliSteve169]

You really believe that story, don't you?

[@pkk2009]

Take the $35 million salary of CEO and pay it to the victims of the crash 😒

[@gees9258]

2 Boeing Whistleblowers have been murdered... Hmmm let me think... "Transparency is really important for Boeing"- The boeing guy

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

What's your evidence to say that? Could you please share facts proving that? Thanks

[@hydro6743]

There was no sign of murder in either case

[@Bigyellowburner]

@@hydro6743oh for the love of god how stupid are you…

[@Bigyellowburner]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCodfool.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@Bigyellowburner was that the education you were given? Is it normal for you to go around insulting people you have never met, for no reason?

[@nycalien]

On the other hand, Airbus CEO is someone who started in the company as an engineer and became the CEO.

[@greglane3978]

Boeing prior to the merger that is killing the company.

[@The1emerican]

The writing is on the wall. They’re done.

[@smal1393]

Given the amount of defense work Boeing performs, our guberment (no, that is not a typo) may deem them 'Too big to fail' and bail them out with our tax dollars.

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@smal1393 yep they are part of US military complex

[@BobbyGeneric145]

Won't happen.

[@mcotton3077]

Sales plummeted because their planes do!

[@greglane3978]

Which is falling faster? The 737 max out of the sky or the stock price?

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@greglane3978 nice one

[@theangrybaby]

Haste makes waste. We should expect more plane issues with these upcoming rushed jobs.

[@serafinacosta7118]

Now that is a life lesson. And rhymes.

[@jamesgraves9858]

Love that saying. It's probably my most frequently used

[@SpcT0rres]

So before, Boeing was rushing to fill orders and cutback on safety. The company now says it will again rush to fill orders. How does this fill anyone with confidence?

[@dressageandalusian]

This!! I don’t understand how more people aren’t realising this!

[@DonaldDucksRevenge]

They can't even get the astronauts off the space station. This company is a joke

[@cobraman897]

2 to 42 planes that's your safety concern right there

[@EpicCyberGamerPunk]

Airbus overtook them its gonna be hard for Boeing to recover with there bad reputation with their 737 max death traps

[@lindafukuyu5767]

They need to strip-off the CEO $35 million compensation and use that money to increase those engineers especially in the production side the salary or wages. They're the backbone of the company NOT the CEO. Geez !

[@user-ln8hp4vt5z]

How True.

[@user-dy2ps2zb6v]

How would you run a company without a CEO?

[@user-ln8hp4vt5z]

@@user-dy2ps2zb6v very easily. How Pathetic. How do you run a company without employees?

[@user-dy2ps2zb6v]

@@user-ln8hp4vt5z how do you run a company without management ?

[@user-dy2ps2zb6v]

@@user-ln8hp4vt5z Employees would pretty much be useless if there is no management to manage them and sell their work.

[@wadehiggins1114]

Why should they get orders?

[@angelainamarie9656]

Because they're the only game in town, so they thought. That's the fat-cat mentality that develops when we let companies like this merge.

[@edthelazyboy]

​@@angelainamarie9656Airbus?

[@recon_ron7746]

​@angelainamarie9656 Well... at least we have boom supersonic now lol. Even though it's not traditional commercial airliner, in the long term if they do good things it'll be a game changer for the U.S

[@angelainamarie9656]

@@edthelazyboy They'd consume/destroy Airbus if they could.

[@bengaltiger96]

Thanks GE, thanks McKinsey, for destroying Boeing and American business in general.

[@cowarddonnie-ji5yz]

Says an employee of a company who got funded by taxpayers 😂😂😂

[@bengaltiger96]

@@cowarddonnie-ji5yz Who are you talking to?

[@nel1962]

Boeing is a victim of its own greed and hubris - thinking they would always own the market and be able to get away with anything.

[@raybod1775]

Thank the management!

[@cowarddonnie-ji5yz]

@@bengaltiger96 YOU

[@theotheleo6830]

They're struggling to fulfill their current orders but they still want more orders?

[@donaldkasper8346]

Yes, you get your plane in two years so the orders now are to have consistent production flow.

[@theotheleo6830]

@@donaldkasper8346 The problem is that they can't handle the orders they have now. More orders would only exacerbate the problem.

[@underverse7]

I wouldn´t take a trip on any boeing plane now or in the future. Before buying a ticket I want to know what brand of planes the airline has; if it is a boeing I prefer to stay at home

[@deekang6244]

Exactly.

[@okzoomer5728]

Would make sense for the max variants and the 787 but most of the older generation going planes are quite a bit safer and have a good record.

[@jamesgraves9858]

Negligence for profits can't be supported

[@cowarddonnie-ji5yz]

The company has highest fatalities on both passengers and employees

[@ARandomDonut]

If it's Boeing we ain't going >:) Company can rot in hell. Hope workers can find new jobs when it inevitably goes under.

[@CaliSteve169]

You fell for the propaganda.

[@FloorItDuh]

​@@CaliSteve169you're dealing with mass hysteria. They won't get it until after it's all done and proclaim if only we had seen it coming.... Play your violin my friend as Rome burns around us.

[@sargervbftw626]

You know what would solve this? give the CEO another 50% raise!! *sarcasm SMH

[@TravisDoesKayakFishing]

I would ride in a 30 year old plane before a Boeing if given the choice.

[@MrConcretejoE]

Ironically, 30 years ago, Boeing made the best airplanes in the global fleet. Not so much anymore.

[@GeneralHawk505]

727s and 707s...

[@greglane3978]

Would ride in an old Boeing jet made before the McDonnell Douglas merger as long as the cycles are not outside the LOLI and it was maintained well. One made after the merger, no thanks.

[@celsocarvalho1113]

If not given the choice, look for options

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

​@MrConcrethese these times are long gone tejoE

[@ICallItAsItIs]

In this day and age, nothing makes any sense, so I'm sure he's going to end up getting more money AND a bonus.

[@Rickets1911]

Precisely

[@AdamBorseti]

Yup. It's 2024! Boys are girls, the sky is a globe and the Earth is a triangle.

[@user-nu1sq2fz8s]

@Rickets1911 they are part of US military complex

[@newzealand.8167]

You guys should have high speed rail

[@acemacgruber6593]

Sounds like the CEO deserves a raise then.

[@goyoy6433]

No orders. That's greed coming full circle.

[@richardwarren7492]

Hint? Boeing has been there before with no orders and it had nothing to do with quality issues. Hint 2? They have by the end of last month, Boeing's backlog (total unfilled orders before ASC 606 adjustment) was 6,259 aircraft, a new company backlog record, of which 4,828, or 77 percent, were 737 NG/MAX. Get a clue.

[@juantoolsdowork421]

All they put first is profit over safety

[@stevos7111]

In the past 5 years, the manufacturing sub-suppliers that make the smaller assemblies and ship them to Boeing have had horrendous Quality Control Standards, especially the California manufacturing plants.

[@ltcmoose2001]

Southwest will not spend the money on it's old aircraft 20+ year old when they required a major maintenance checks to keep them flying past the retirement date. I am on those old 737-700's all the time. So Southwest does not like to spend any more money on safety to keep the old air frames in service. Southwest should have demanded that Boeing design and build a new plane for them with a clean sheet of paper instead of building the Max. No, they did not want the pilot training bill or the fact that they had to manage more than one type of aircraft. They get what they deserve.

[@michaelmcfeely6588]

No honesty and no transparency. The whole system is filth.

[@sbcap3809]

Hey Ron, you’re drinking the Kool-Aid there boy! However, that statement probably bought you a couple of more months employment😂.

[@zcvxs]

What airline wants to buy Boeing planes?

[@holycrapchris]

Airlines need planes, and plane making is a duopoly. Airbus has a backlog of 8500+ planes, and only delivers ~700 planes per year. So airlines need to place orders years in advance to get the planes they need. Airlines having existing orders with Boeing can't just switch to Airbus without facing massive delays in delivery times.

[@deekang6244]

@@holycrapchrisMaybe Airbus could take over Boeing when it fails.

[@rocketraccoon1976]

Aeroflot? 🤔

[@princenoah21]

I used to. But not anymore.

[@princenoah21]

​@@deekang6244This! 💯

[@Gaming_Antics]

Why would no one want to order flying coffins, I don’t understand.

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

You could never pay me to fly on a 737 max.

[@CaliSteve169]

And yet they are just as safe as any other plane. See how propaganda works?

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

@@CaliSteve169 As a general aviation pilot myself, there are some airplanes I would not elect to fly.

[@CaliSteve169]

@@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157 such as? What planes do you fly?

[@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157]

@@CaliSteve169 I grew up flying mostly the Cessna 172. I have instrument and commercial ratings but never flew commercially. The plane that comes to mind I would not want to fly would be the old V-tail Bonanza. It earned the nick name "Doctor Killer". The BD5 had very squirrely flight characteristics. People lost their lives to it. It was featured in a James Bond movie. General aviation aircraft have their reputation among pilots. Some good. Some not so good. My flying and skydiving days are over.

[@CaliSteve169]

@@arnoldfrackenmeyer8157 so what's your take on the commercial aircraft? My personal favorite is the 777.

[@your_royal_highness]

I’m not going to fly Southwest anymore since most of these incidents were on them and most Max’s are in their fleet. If a whistleblower says he won’t fly on a Max maybe that’s worth taking to heart!

[@lindafukuyu5767]

I would select the type of airline .. it it says Boeing .. I'll skip.

[@holycrapchris]

American, Alaska, Delta, and United have all ordered hundreds of 737-MAX planes. Hope JetBlue has good service from your airport!

[@sumaliagrawal4773]

How about a 2 for the price of one special deal? So you have a backup just in case. Just saying!

[@giacomu1]

Black friday from Boeing very soon.

[@Xeonerable]

Oh so now they are being more proactive after the door blew off? Just like how they were proactive on making that situation possible to begin with?

[@Ayden2008]

Um, didn’t virgin Australia or something like that just ordered the max?

[@chunsgr]

Does anyone know the budget for this?

[@MarkMclaughlin-qm8kq]

Southwest will be leasing some crop dusters to meet demand lol.

[@sportingdirector1]

When you prioritize money over safety, that's what happens

[@Thunder_Dome45]

I don't fly but even I know if there's a shortage of aircraft, just keep the ones you have out of maintenance longer and fly them more.

[@Panthers1521]

Would have been interesting to hear how the aviation industry as a whole has been performing with new orders. My guess, all sales are down.

[@optimusprime4443]

Let me just poin something out, im no pilot no engineer etc. But after working a whole year now as a cabin cleaner, i clean all planes for United and let me just say that when i hop on these Boeing the majority of the time i have to be quick to remove the trash out of the flight deck but most importantly when i need to do my inspection is always an issue because many times, maintenence are in the flight deck and i cant do nothing until they are gone. Now for Airbus plane is a complete different story, i dont ever have that problem. I do be listening pilots when they be talking with the rest of the crew about having to call maintenance because of technical issues etc, im not really sure if its normal to be having these many problems like that, but again im no expert I'm only pointing out for what i have been observing and listening.

[@serafinacosta7118]

Good point. But to read yiu need to parse your thoughts. “ I am no pilot engineer …”. Hit the spac3 bar a couple times. Then “ Now for the Airbus plane …”. Before that sentence , a couple taps on the space bar. Write as if yiu were to speak to someone else. People here seldom read long posts , and by lumping yours, you just gave them the reason not to read yours , notwithstanding your good take. Take care brother.

[@serafinacosta7118]

I meant … to be read. My bad.

[@optimusprime4443]

@@serafinacosta7118 OK? So what does my quick typing messing up a little bit on my spelling had anything to do about what I'm talking about.

[@serafinacosta7118]

@@optimusprime4443 good penmanship grasshopper. That is all. The craftier you are, the more folks will pay attention at what you write. Simple as that.

[@doolittlegeorge]

That doesn't include Government orders especially for the military however.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

How surprising.

[@TheGodJesusLife]

Yay. This is Awesome!

[@Shadow__133]

Best thing Boeing did was pull a fast one on the merger with Embraer 😂

[@user-ln8hp4vt5z]

Can you say you are FIRED Mr. CEO? Shareholders should MASS Sue Boeings CEO .

[@olivierjulian2836]

At this day Boeing backlog is 6188 planes and Airbus is 8580 planes , With the tendency seem to amplify last six month , Boeing is now a far behind second with a huge restructuration ahead and need to find the correct answer to compete knowing that a new constructor ( Comac) had arrived and soon will be ultra competitive , no time to waste and in the same time "hurry up slowly" a very complicated equation .....

[@tw3235]

I left Boeing in 2010 and many of of us saw the greed march coming.

[@SR-bh5jd]

Production change of 2 per month to 47 per month? I can’t find that magic wand on Amazon anywhere.

[@ShakesSphere]

I for one, do NOT want my daughter flying on a Boeing that was RUSHED THROUGH PRODUCTION. If they're only putting out 2 per month, they need to go down to 1 per month, with their track record !!

[@MrDarthvis]

Goes to show wth are these CEOs doing while the employees are working in the factory/lab/on site?

[@idekav.]

impact on your travel plans” yeah in 5 years thanks for the heads up fox

[@bilo6832]

Correction: no one was physically hurt when the door plug blew out.

[@AprilJMoon]

Safety 1st .. safety 2nd.. safety 3rd.. The aircraft will sell themselves then. Tell the shareholders that, and that increasing production in existing facilities is impossible without cutting corners. The only realistic way to increase production is to build more infrastructure, plant and facilities.

[@RatTerminator]

And they wont ever!!

[@jimfesta8981]

Perhaps too, the rank and file employees aren't as good as their predecessors.

[@josereycampued5262]

You really need it to be perfect.its an airplane flying 800 km/h.once it fails its kaput no one survives.

[@WarbirdPhoenix]

As the saying goes in aviation. Best be on the ground wishing to be in the air than in the air wishing to be on the ground. "If it's a Boeing I ain't going."

[@vc7393]

They just had another plane have a major problem yesterday, and a new union agreement to finish if I'm correct. I've known people who worked for Boeing, and it sounds like they need the engineers back, to work with the line people to fix all the problems and Fire the Entire Board Room, and hire people that know how to run a company that is engineering first and foremost, the business will come back to them then.

[@Grungefan2018]

The impact on our travel Plans are the least of the issues arising from this. I just feel bad for people who need to fly for family emergencies and business. Because they have no choice. Traveling for fun is not a necessity.

[@brucelee5576]

The Boeing Senate hearing was scary AF.

[@A3Kr0n]

Time to buy stock? Are we at the bottom yet?

[@MBisFrenchy]

Best thing that can happen is for them to start new.

[@bwmcelya]

Staying on top of airliner sales is like balancing on a bowling ball. There aren’t many companies who can compete with Boeing, but compete they do. The result is a net positive for us consumers. I say keep up the heat on ALL airline builders. Flying is still far safer than driving to the grocery store.

[@MeEncantaKiley]

Let me know when they’re employees are actually ready to go to work 😂

[@joshxkerrigan]

If only these CEO's were forced into a $1 salary. Wonder how much they'd stress about the companies performance then.

[@GeneralHawk505]

Maybe go back go the Md80 design.....

[@Taladar2003]

Those "put reporters in a random place outside" shots are really getting ridiculous.

[@GoodFoodGoodMood481]

Where are these guys getting CEOs from?

[@bluffem]

They are a revolving door from company to company. All C-Suite executives are like this. The engineers and technicians stay for 20-30 years, but the top of the pyramid comes and goes wherever the biggest payday lay.

[@grytestriped4840]

I hope theyre not asking for money from us..

[@johnbourne5068]

Hmmmm, so now does the management care?

[@straighttalk9999]

whistle boeing-jesse wells song -sums it up

[@Karina_Engr]

I’ll 100% take reduced flights and reduced whatever, over plane crashes, and other types of unsafe plane incidents. As a SW fan, I have NO PROBLEM with this.

[@timarm64]

You got parts just randomly falling off your airplanes, and you wo der why you have no airplane orders?

[@starburst23]

Oh no, no money for labor staff because of no orders? Guess we'll have to raise the CEO pay to $40m this year and fire the factory workers. See how it makes no sense anymore?

[@pikapool0]

"taking" ("taken") and "getting" ("gets") are two entirely different things. fix your headline

[@72launchpad]

They don't care about the quality of their product, safety means nothing to them and are let to self inspect themselves. This is not a surprise.........

[@Drforce2311]

The new saying goes “If it’s a Boeing I ain’t going” 😞

[@SW-fy8pq]

Airbus invests in R&D, Boeing invests in stocks & shares.

[@Hoovie9596]

Someone screwed up

[@rickchua6646]

This plane is prone to sharp dives. Not safe.

[@iheartcryptoverse2857]

Imagine that. It almost sound like it's a terrible idea to build dangerous, substandard airplanes and assassinate whistle blowers

[@BaKimura03]

Nope to Southwest. Always has been… but more now.

[@ag1382]

They could not deliver more than two planes a month and so throwing 42 in a month will give the public safer planes? Not likely.

[@carlerickson74]

I bet southwest is wishing they could order some A321 NEOs about now!😳

[@nueat6]

Boeing still talking about making sales and speed of making the planes. Talking about safety is illegal at Boeing

[@twyscape]

Time to visit the boneyard and give the old planes a second lease of life.

[@bobjimenez4464]

Make them right and a little slower