Boers in Patagoniê Part 1

[@dickbreytenbach5432]

Danke banja Silvana, hoe wonderlik om te sien. Hartseer dat die afrikaans taal daar dood loop, maar die taal verras jou soms met sy veerkragtigheid. Nogmals danke vir jou plasing van die videos. Seeninge

[@isaiasespino9046]

Gracias Silvana Schlebusch por tan grandiosos documentales ..

[@antonvanniekerk4894]

Fascinating......a real piece of extremely relevant example of the development of the Afrikaaner language. At the time of their exodus, Afrikaans was a spoken language but not one yet standardised, and all official documents were in Dutch. On the dawn of Afrikaans becoming a standardised language, a tiny group of Afrikaaners left for Patagonia, where the Afrikaans/Dutch seperation had not yet been formalised, and although their dialect is far more Afrikaans than Dutch, it is far more Dutch than modern day Afrikaans, and I was mesmirised to hear it. A priceless time-capsule of what Afrikaans sounded like in 1900. Thank you for posting.

[@dylandutoit2381]

It sounds just like contemporary Afrikaans. Younger people of South Africa don't use all the available words, or 'big words', I've noticed. It sounds like some of these Afrikaner descendents from Pantagonia have lost comfort speaking Afrikaans, might be why it doesn't completely sound Afrikaans.

[@AapVanDieKaap]

@@dylandutoit2381 There doesn't seem to be a notable difference between the way they speak and modern Afrikaans. While not standardized, Afrikaans was written and widely spoken instead of dutch long before 1900. Dutch was an official language in South Africa until 1971 although nobody spoke it anymore by then.

[@jsjssgjsjsuwjxjsaksjxjxn]

Dit klinkt meer Afrikaans dan Nederlands, nie waar nie? Het klinkt trouwens ook meer Vlaams dan hedendaags Nederlands. De uitspraak en bepaalde woorden ("omtrent zo'n 100 meter") wijzen toch in die richting, vind ik.

[@EVZYL]

We left South Africa nine years ago and are now living in Puerto Montt, Chile. We plan to visit Sarmiento and Comodoro Rivadavia in 2015. Sien julle later! (Nos vemos!)

[@laragravenor5750]

What are the requirements to go to Chile from South Africa?

[@laragravenor5750]

I am interested in leaving SA. I am currently learning Spanish. How difficult is it for South Africans to go to Chile? My mail is [e-mail]

[@kelokura8718]

@@laragravenor5750 much better is Argentina for living

[@solmar284]

@Lara Gravenor Argentina is a very open society, Argentina is used to receive millions of immigrants. You will soon make friends in Argentina. As someone tells you here, is a great place to live: good food, friendly people, a lot of land with wonderful landscapes, good quality of the air, good health system, an sportive life, good science, good in arts and culture, good universities and with not problems like earthquakes or tsunamis in most of the country.

[@MS-ly4mx]

Kelo Kura argentina right now it’s going through an economic crisis. I wouldn’t recommend moving to this country.

[@Atitlan1222]

I was in BA in 1990 and met a woman, Dora MAcDonald. She owned a store, Lembranca in palermo. She was probably around 75 or so. We got to talking an she told me she was born in Santa Cruz I think and that her parents were Boers. I didn't know much about SOuth Africa but on a few other visits she told me a bit about life growing up in Patagonia. I didn;t think much of it until I moved back in 1996 and she was in her last years. wish I would have asked her more about her culture and how they mixed with the locals.

[@cjov1]

this is very interesting. thanks for uploading this. ive been looking for documentaries about this for years now.

[@carlosjuan2725]

A fundamental piece in this History is missing: Martín Bresler and the massacre of Zainuco

[@emilianosotomayor3899]

wow gracias Silvana por subirlo, super interesante

[@saradelanger8688]

Gracias Silvana por compartir éste vídeo, la mayoría de los entrevistados ya han partido...

[@shanvmw]

That age old saying is so true, 'n Boer maak n plan".

[@ch.k.3228]

Would be very interessting with subtitles in english or German.

[@MrNnatte]

q bello documento, una pena la ausencia de subtitulos:(. impactante las imagenes antiguas

[@stroessneralejandro5927]

Vengan a Argentina es un país de blancos 🇦🇷✌🏻🇦🇷 serán bienvenidos....

[@Hitokiri858]

Que bello documental de la Patagonia en la Argentina, verdaderamente los sudafricanos blancos deberían migrar a esa región de la Argentina a continuar con su vida de granjeros y su fe. En la universidad en Perú pude estudiar sobre la historia universal y enterar me con dolor como la población nativa africana de raza negra se está vengando con apoyo del gobierno de Sudáfrica de los sudafricanos blancos, se les está expropiando sus tierras, se les asalta y maltrata solo por el color de su piel . Bendiciones y éxitos para todo pueblo que lucha por su libertad y aguante Argentina.

[@annebezuidenhout9735]

Very true what you studied......afrikaans gaan onder, hulle wil glad nie nou afrikaans in SA hoor nie, maar ons gaan opruk

[@metrobrandsmetrobrands2799]

The history you learnt is so distorted. seems your justice is only for white people. Africans have suffered much at the hands of white colonialist and still do to this day. How much longer should Africans suffer in their only land, tell us one European country that offers Africans land and title to it. Africans have never appropriated any ones land . Africa is reclaiming its history and wealth stolen by Europeans

[@CharlotteStrauss]

Awesome - wou self ook al lankal meer weet hieroor.

[@claravanrooyen4131]

Thankyou

[@Spacekriek]

Dankie vir hierdie video-opnames, Silvana. Ek het met groot belangstelling gekyk en geluister. Ek vermoed dat die Afrikaanse kultuur en taal wat vandag in Patagonië te vinde is grotendeels oorgeërf is van die een geslag na die volgende ? Daar kom seker nie baie "nuwe bloed" in van die stamland, Suid-Afrika, nie. Deesdae is daar darem die internet en KZbin wat julle mense maklik met ons hier kan verbind in Suid-Afrika. Een van die eerste gedagtes wat by my ontstaan het, terwyl ek die video gekyk het, is dat die gemeenskap in Patagonië 'n soort lewendige tydkapsule is, met alle respek gesê. Dit is bewonderenswaardig dat soveel Afrikaners nog hulle taal so suiwer kan praat (trouens, byna beter as van ons mense hier in Suid-Afrika). Aan die ander kant lees ek nou van die mans wat met Argentynse vroue trou en dan neem die kinders die moeder se taal aan. Dit kan 'n mens hulle ook nie verwyt nie, hulle is trouens 'n minderheid in 'n ander land.

[@glenatkinson4066]

I was fascinated after coming across Afrikaaners in Argentina a few years ago. I wonder how the community is doing now.

[@CasperLabuschagne-g2z]

Hoe kontak ek julle. Wil graag kom kyk.

[@hanoitripper1809]

How can i find subtitles in eng spanish or german

[@truter5243]

Baie mooi video. Was interesant hoe die dialek aangepas het of dalk selfs eenhede bevat wat ons in Suid-Afrika klaar verloor het deur die generasies soos Afrikaans gegroeie en ontwikkel het. Sou graag wou sien hoe van hierdie mense wat so verlang na n land wat hulle nooit gesien het nie dalk n besoek maak aan Suid-Afrika. En te sien hoe hulle dit bevind asook hulle reaksie waneer hulle die monumente en museums besoek wat gebind is aan die Afrikaanse taal en die boere oorlog.

[@elenavanbc]

I'm sad for them and I understand their plight, even when I don't understand the language

[@vanrensburg3760]

Goeiedag *Silvana Schlebusch Myburgh* , dankie vir die oplaai van die dokumentêre. Woon jy erens in Suid - America en praat jy dalk Afrikaans?

[@silvisch]

Hi! Not but my parents yes!

[@jeanyslie7717]

Ek het die videoklip baie geniet.

[@Spacekriek]

Seker video-opname ! :D Klip is 'n ding daar buite in die tuin.

[@francescaharbor1731]

Afreekaans is I baie oud tale, its been around for about 100years now.

[@megatesla]

No, it is not! Of the 6500 languages spoken around the world, Afrikaans (about 150 years old) is one of the 5 newest languages.

[@laragravenor5750]

It comes from Dutch. 🤗

[@pitbullpowersystems8704]

Afrikaans in isolation preserved

[@Palivfed]

Can anyone translate what that lady says? 2:04

[@Spacekriek]

We arrived here in 1903, we then lived in tents in Moolman's hollow/marsh. After that my father moved away to a place that he marked out to live in. We lived there until 1908. My father sold the place and we moved to Pampa Pilala (?). We lived there, we were a family of 10 children. We lived there until 1918 and then my father moved again to Samatin (?). We lived there a couple of years and I got married there. We moved back to Pampa Pilala (?).

[@Palivfed]

@@Spacekriek Thank you!

[@silvisch]

Hi!!! She said Pampa Pelada y José de San Martin in Chubut Province. ​@@Spacekriek

[@davidclinghamable]

dankie was goed om te kyk

[@edmundrabe]

Hierdie is n baie interessante film, ek wonder of dit is hoe Afrikaans geklink het in die vroe 1900's? Dit klink nie juis soos moderne Afrikaans nie. Of dalk is dit net die Spaanse invloed?

[@eiremike1]

Ek dink die Nederlandse invloed is duidelik. As jy die nuwe dokumter kyk op Vimeo, klink hulle baie meer soos Ndederlandse, veral die "e" klanke

[@eiremike1]

vimeo.com/ondemand/boersfilm/168166166 Daaris die skakel. kyk dit asseblief, spandeer die geld dis moeite werd. Ek daag jou uit om nie n knop in jou keel te kry nie :-) En ook ons kan bietjie trotd wees op Suid-Afrika want hulle glo dis baie beter as waar hulle bly :-)

[@WEZZIWEZZ]

Ik hoor ook duidelijke Nederlandse klanken.

[@WEZZIWEZZ]

Dankie vir die tip!

[@eiremike1]

wat my verbaas het is die anglisisme wat alreeds bestaan het - soos "laaik" gebruik (bv. ek laaik die musiek). Maar ja - dis is n oogblik van hoe oue Afrikaans moes geklink het. Soortgelyk hoe Afrikaans seker vir Nederlanders klink - one gebruik nog ou woorde en soms ou klanke

[@yolandejordan161]

Mooi on my taal ook hier te hoor afrikaans

[@marcelbas]

Herken jy mense in die dokumentêr, Silvi? :-)

[@silvisch]

Yes Marcel, some my families are in there! =)

[@marcelbas]

I am sorry! I saw your reply only now. 8 years later!

[@michaelhorne2901]

wow....hope the language does not die in Patagonia.

[@amienmoos]

Seems like the language is already dying. Saw in 2016 there are only 10 people left who are fluent in Afrikaans.

[@nathanmountjoy]

@@amienmoos 😂😂 not close

[@hernan5940]

Shame they used southern Spanish music as if it is Argentine folk

[@quinntinoneill6361]

stem saam ...kry n skool en biblioteek daar

[@ludwigmyburgh6054]

Laat die erwe van ons vaders vir ons kinders erwe bly!

[@foucher77]

Mooi

[@grobariza]

Silvana eres tu familia de Senora Florencia Llames Schlebusch?

[@silvanaschlebuschmyburgh8558]

John, si somos familia.

[@silvisch]

Si somos familia. Casi todos los Boers lo son en Patagonia! Saludos y gracias por interesarse!

[@SkeenCharles]

Baie interessant. Lyk asof die materiaal opgeneem is in ongeveer die 1970’s.

[@Spacekriek]

Sy het in die beskrywing onder die videotitel aangeteken dat dit rondom 1973-1979 vervaardig is.

[@SkeenCharles]

@@Spacekriek oh, dankie.

Ek kon die ouer geslagte beter verstaan as die jong mense. Die taal was besig om uit te sterf daar, tot onlangs (2019), waar hulle nou ñ museum wil beopen.

[@marianoblas3608]

Why a Spanish sevillana?

[@aejonker]

Ek wonder of daar nog Afrikaans spreukende Boere mense in Argentina is. 2022.

[@ockertvanzyl5340]

Ek hoop van harte so jammer ek is te oud on nou te gaan 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@weetbix4497]

'n Nederlandse KZbinr het onlangs 'n video oor hulle gemaak. Sy naam is Lewis Wirth. Die Afrikaans-sprekende mense raak ongelukkig al hoe minder met die jare. Maar dis nogsteeds wonderlik dat daar nog mense is wat hul taal en kultuur behou.

[@erichpizer1]

Wou altyd meer weet van dit.

[@pieterse4075]

Snaakse sprigbokke wat daar rondspring

[@Spacekriek]

13:18 Daardie tipe bokke ? Ek sal ook graag wil weet. Dit lyk soos iets tussen 'n bok en 'n llama.

[@jp95js]

Yes the Boers are migrating to all the best Countries, like the Peoples Republic of China , Russia and South America. Lovely.

[@rodrigovonkluge4280]

Come to Brazil, white brothers. Southeast and South of the country are white Farms here have great prices and very good for agriculture

[@arthasmenethil8796]

Rodrigo Von Kluge jajajajaj cashate brazuca del orrttooo

[@laragravenor5750]

Not all are farmers. Most White South Africans live in cities and do jobs like dentists and accountants.

[@michaeltownsend4644]

If only We’re clearly no longer welcome in our own country

[@thesoulbrother8636]

@@michaeltownsend4644 Why are you guys not accepted back in your country?

[@ceferinagaleano9879]

Brasil hoje é favela, bandidos, funky e maconha hahaha

[@SaboresTiaIna68]

Boere, nie Afrikaners nie.

[@gsw977SoekarnoNederlands-Indie]

Ik groet U vanuit Suriname🇸🇷