Boghossian, Linehan, and Kearse Walk into a Park (4K)

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Peter Boghossian

Peter Boghossian

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@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
ICYMI: A bright 12-year-old does SSE! kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWfIg2iLZ82VpM0&ab_channel=PeterBoghossian
@burtlangoustine1
@burtlangoustine1 8 ай бұрын
18:37 Peter, every job is like this now. Every job. We live under mould around mould hoping it'll produce a kind of all-saving Penicillin.
@KevinWhite-zb5os
@KevinWhite-zb5os 8 ай бұрын
All I needed to know about muslims I learned on 9/11. That's your answer. With the current goings on around the world, especially Gaza? Muslims are no good for any civilized society.
@numberonedad
@numberonedad 8 ай бұрын
great conversation! i love how what shines through most is the bitterness at being excluded from the liberal circles you claim to despise.
@asabovesobelow5368
@asabovesobelow5368 8 ай бұрын
@peterboghossian, I took your Critical Thinking class at PSU years ago. The things you taught us have had a hugely positive impact on my life. I was never even enrolled at PSU and because you're truly passionate about education you let me take your class. I just want to say thank you, thank you for your work and standing up for truth.
@rosgill6
@rosgill6 8 ай бұрын
Hard not to feel bad for Graham, a person who seems extremely thoughtful and careful about what he says. A rather good man
@svenhaheim
@svenhaheim 8 ай бұрын
And a comedic genius that has given us tons of great fun, the rightwing media platforms should be hiring his talent right away whenever the left discards great talent its time to swoop them up.
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 8 ай бұрын
​@@svenhaheimI don't think there are any true right wing platforms , people know that the head of GB News is a Woke Leftist, and the director us married to the anti White girl from breakfast TV. I'm also not sure Graham would want to be on any platform that's clearly right or left wing. I'd live him to be on a sensible platform like The Lotus Eaters.
@YourLocalCopiumDealer
@YourLocalCopiumDealer 8 ай бұрын
@@svenhaheim I agree, but he's centre left and in current day culture war politics it makes him persona non grata for both sides sadly. It would be a stroke of genius if for example Ben Shapiro hired him to write for his next comedy movie. Not just for his talent, but also as a FU to the radical left. "We'll hire based on merit, not on skincolor, gender or political affiliation."
@somethingelse9535
@somethingelse9535 8 ай бұрын
@@YourLocalCopiumDealer Graham is what the americans call an 'old time liberal', who they actually like, since that is way better than the professional victim, race baiting, trans grooming, cancel culture far left f'tards who dominate western governments and institutions now. Bill Maher is another example, he invites conservatives on his show they spend their time agreeing on almost everything.
@daftwod
@daftwod 8 ай бұрын
He only became remotely reasonable by circumstance. If they never turned on him, he would still be an enemy stormtrooper.
@wendyquinn7749
@wendyquinn7749 8 ай бұрын
Its so good to see Graham Linehan get some focus again. Hopefully we'll get him back in the limelight 💡
@sosimple3585
@sosimple3585 8 ай бұрын
Hopefully he gets to make a living writing comedy again!
@myboyboris
@myboyboris 8 ай бұрын
He's such a gem!
@jesl8371
@jesl8371 8 ай бұрын
I was hoping to learn who these men are. I'm American and just fell in love with the tallest guy.
@Tayloradrift
@Tayloradrift 8 ай бұрын
Get some focus again? You mean succumb to the woke?
@Claire-tn4xp
@Claire-tn4xp 8 ай бұрын
It really is
@julianchase95
@julianchase95 8 ай бұрын
My heart goes out to Graham… he’s carrying a lot of pain, head hanging down, he doesn’t feel free in speaking. He’s a great bloke, and it’s disgusting what he has had to suffer.
@markshirley01
@markshirley01 8 ай бұрын
Yeah - I remember him in the Irish scene on Alan Partridge. He was a great comedy writer
@sturmhalo
@sturmhalo 8 ай бұрын
I think that's just they way Graham carries himself. He's always seemed a little awkward.
@killerStranngle
@killerStranngle 8 ай бұрын
the government is to blame by not cracking down on this woke agenda and promoting free speech etc.
@topsuperseven7910
@topsuperseven7910 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you and I noticed he's been doing a lot of the social media/podcast tour lately but he is not good. He is really broken by his 'cancelation'. Kearse is only thriving (really, standups do get energized by it) and there is even a boring phenom of comedians *pretending* to be getting 'canceled' and they are doing it for self-promotion, however, Linehan is NOT taking it well.
@dandyintheunderworld9972
@dandyintheunderworld9972 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, he's talented, but he was fully onboard the woke train for a long while, it's only because they've ostracized him, that he's speaking out, otherwise he would've kept his mouth shut.
@whiskeytango9769
@whiskeytango9769 8 ай бұрын
People should only be allowed to immigrate legally, and must also be able to demonstrate that they will be a positive benefit to us. They must also be supportive of Western values that centre on individual freedoms....now if only we could get our politicians to support those values.
@rationalbacon5872
@rationalbacon5872 8 ай бұрын
​@@dodgersfan8598Why? legal or illegal it hardly matters. Either way you are selling out your children.
@governordog
@governordog 8 ай бұрын
Yet both sides of the US political system allow dangerous illegal immigration to continue in mass. Sad
@salh-salniated
@salh-salniated 8 ай бұрын
I think if you emigrate to another country you should be open to the culture and values of that country. This is the same of others coming to our country, it’s not appropriate to call for jehad or shout Ali Akbar in the streets of the uk.
@NerdlySquared
@NerdlySquared 8 ай бұрын
Aside from the “legal” part, there really is no possible way to guarantee a single part of any of the rest of your wish list. You can only play general probabilities by restricting flow from specific source countries with proven records of poor integration and the pace and extent of entry in general. From top to bottom, none of any of this actually happens.
@petmensan
@petmensan 8 ай бұрын
And not be Muslim. Plus every western country needs a short break to reevaluate, maybe a couple hundred years or so.
@TrebleSum
@TrebleSum 8 ай бұрын
Great guest! I really enjoy the content you make here in the UK, Peter. Graham is such a lovely bloke & what happened to him was bang out of order. I do have hope though that the tides are finally turning on the foulness of cancel culture. Thank you all! 🙂
@peacemaker6662
@peacemaker6662 8 ай бұрын
I, for one was really disappointed in Graham's take on Mark Meechan (Count Dankula). He redeemed himself by making a public apology to the man, there is however the nagging thought that he wouldn't have thought differently if he didn't suffer the same fate?
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 8 ай бұрын
​@@peacemaker6662 Correct. If Graham had 1 view that was different, trans, he has all but admitted he would be a part of the Woke mob. I'm fairly distrusting in people that have suddenly changed gtheir opinion in the last 3 years too (Not Graham) , if you didn't think we had serious issues in 2013, 2015, 2018!! WHAT WERE YOU LOOKING AT?? Breathe.
@JaneA544
@JaneA544 8 ай бұрын
​@peacemaker6662 I think Graham was genuinely sorry for the mistake he made, the public apology was made in good faith and count dankula was the bigger man and behaved beautifully accepting the apology. Let it go
@joedge6142
@joedge6142 8 ай бұрын
@@peacemaker6662 I think a lot of people recently have had a rethink about views they held before and realised they had just gone along with their tribe, Labour have lost a lot of female voters.
@rcagoon1969
@rcagoon1969 8 ай бұрын
Get Peter a UK passport ASAP! This was good, and top notch guests again!
@JonathanRossRogers
@JonathanRossRogers 8 ай бұрын
Also, Linehan and Kearse would be welcome as Americans.
@Claire-tn4xp
@Claire-tn4xp 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely 💯
@twentyrothmans7308
@twentyrothmans7308 8 ай бұрын
I'll marry him, if that's what it takes.No funny business, though - I want that in writing. A great conversation, pleased that I found this.
@Claire-tn4xp
@Claire-tn4xp 8 ай бұрын
@@whatsMyNameAgainAgain I live on an Island. We're surrounded by water 🤣 are you insane?
@ghostdog4330
@ghostdog4330 8 ай бұрын
I'll swap him mine and move to Texas, where I'll live in the only country with a constitutional right to free speech and the means to protect it.
@PoliticalRegality
@PoliticalRegality 8 ай бұрын
❤❤❤ Graham ! TOUGH CROWD!!! We are reading his.book. He is an amazing.human being!
@cathy553
@cathy553 8 ай бұрын
Three of the most gorgeous, thoughtful, independent thinkers. Thank you for doing street epistemology Peter. Videos like this restore my faith in humanity.
@janrobson9247
@janrobson9247 8 ай бұрын
I just love Graham Linehan. I would follow him just about anywhere and I’m grateful to him as a big Terf.
@Theogvineofthedead
@Theogvineofthedead 8 ай бұрын
Ive never had someone as an intellectual/philosopher i could say that i look up to. Maybe a musician like Claudio Sanchez, and id probably say i look up to the chemist Alexander Shulgin. But Peter Bogosian has been a very real inspiration in my thinking and aspirations in life the last couple of years. Take this as you will but i find that the more i offer myself the opportunity to question what i "believe" and really delve into why i stand on that mat. I end up being more educated, forthcoming, and willing to listen in my day to day conversations. It may be subtle and is often unnoticed but its been important to my understanding of myself and of the world around me. So i thank you Peter for your educational and entertaining voyage into the digital atmosphere ❤ also, happy new year brother ✌️
@dylanmcgowan3932
@dylanmcgowan3932 8 ай бұрын
That was a good one 👍 Imagine the dimension where the BBC would air a similar format . No , I can’t either.
@carbonnieferrous2689
@carbonnieferrous2689 8 ай бұрын
What a great format for teasing out the complexities and nuances in any question/subject.
@bidensdiaper394
@bidensdiaper394 8 ай бұрын
So nice to have 2 gents and no one is screaming of name calling. My stress level didn't increase for once
@ukgranny9786
@ukgranny9786 8 ай бұрын
Three of my favourite people. Thanks and Happy New Year to you and yours
@skis2643
@skis2643 8 ай бұрын
That was fun to watch. Leo is very funny and I also loved the scenery in the background. Great place to shoot a video. That added to the experience. More of these please with people like Leo and Graham and the great questions from Peter.
@multirevelator
@multirevelator 8 ай бұрын
looked like Parliament Hill, fantastic view and decent folk frequent the area
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@cnrspiller3549
@cnrspiller3549 8 ай бұрын
Not sure you should have been on the grass though, it looks a bit bare in patches.
@multirevelator
@multirevelator 8 ай бұрын
that hill has one of the best views of London and as such is as busy as a small london street, anyone can walk where they want@@cnrspiller3549
@SarcasticPlotRecaps
@SarcasticPlotRecaps 8 ай бұрын
@@multirevelator Was it not Greenwhich Park?
@pampennyworth
@pampennyworth 8 ай бұрын
3 guys that I subscribe to all here in one place. Fantastic stuff indeed.
@awakeningwithreiki9451
@awakeningwithreiki9451 8 ай бұрын
Peter's work is excellent, always thought provoking. Graham is such a lovely, thoughtful man, and what a talent
@carolynb.7455
@carolynb.7455 8 ай бұрын
I find the street epistemology fascinating and this one brings some interesting and surprise answers. Great guests in Leo and Graham and above all very good-natured, even where opinions are questioned or differ. Thank you, Peter, and a Happy New Year!
@richalderson6069
@richalderson6069 8 ай бұрын
Just finished reading Tough Crowd, a wonderful book, so glad for Graham that it's doing well and getting all those great reviews on Amazon. Keep up the fight Graham!
@MadGeorgeProductions
@MadGeorgeProductions 7 ай бұрын
Graham is such a kind soul. You know your movement is nuts when even he won't go along with you.
@treesart6914
@treesart6914 8 ай бұрын
This was great. I have to say that this 'game' was a pretty genius idea from Peter for a number of reasons, that I'm somewhat going to sum up here: 1. It creates nuance and understanding in current discussions to counter the stupid polarization-pull, 2. It's a great way to do something useful for philosophers. A fellow philosophy grad student told me that she was very insecure about her future, careerwise, and that her dream was to be kind of "the village philosopher" who'd help people with their philosophical question, as opposed to being stuck in academia. I think that with this game, Peter has found a way to do that. That's meant as a compliment, I'm being sincere here.
@Hin_Håle
@Hin_Håle 8 ай бұрын
I could have watched a few more hours with these guys!
@adrianmeyer2157
@adrianmeyer2157 8 ай бұрын
I knew this one would be brilliant, thank you for these Peter.
@Marco_Cadabra
@Marco_Cadabra 8 ай бұрын
Great episode, thanks for speaking honestly, guys. Keep up the good work, Peter!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that. Thank you!
@dharmainitiative9152
@dharmainitiative9152 8 ай бұрын
I love these studies in life! I find comfort in seeing people who can substantiate their beliefs based on evidence rather than emotions. Peter, I’m single! 💕
@samij6071
@samij6071 8 ай бұрын
"Blaire White is ok bc she agrees with me politically." Nope, still a man.
@RealCoachMustafa
@RealCoachMustafa 8 ай бұрын
Exactly! Literally everyone I see who's fine with calling Blaire a woman, is not so fine with Dylan. They're both the same. They're very confused boys trying to make money.
@simontrober7487
@simontrober7487 8 ай бұрын
Blair White acknowledges he isn't a woman. That doesn't mean we can not treat him as one because he tries and, in many ways, is successful. You have to pass for a woman to even be attempted to be considered one. Dylan M makes a mockery of being a woman, so he shouldn't be identified as one. Dylan is playing a character.
@jayjaydubful
@jayjaydubful 8 ай бұрын
​@simontrober7487 no man is a woman. Whether or not they've had a ton of surgery or if we agree with their views. The truth matters
@simontrober7487
@simontrober7487 8 ай бұрын
​@jayjaydubful ok, the truth is that Blair White is a man. Blair White admits that. The question is, can a society accommodate a trans woman when the trans woman commits to actually transferring? There is no question about rejecting a man who says he is a woman because they happen to put on a bit of lippy.
@peanutboxes4076
@peanutboxes4076 8 ай бұрын
@@simontrober7487that’s not fair though, because there will be a wealth factor involved as to whether a trans person can afford the surgeries to pass. It’s best to have one solid equal and fair rule: no men in womens spaces whether they pass or not.
@susanzeidler3960
@susanzeidler3960 8 ай бұрын
Love Leo! So glad to see him here. First time meeting Graham and I am impressed with his integrity. Great episode Peter!!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Lineageholder
@Lineageholder 8 ай бұрын
This is brilliant! Very thought-provoking, and I appreciate the free exchange of ideas and perspectives - thank you, gents.
@bertrandrussell894
@bertrandrussell894 8 ай бұрын
Awesome talk boys and, as far I can tell, *the* most important topic out there.
@edwardharrison6340
@edwardharrison6340 8 ай бұрын
That was a breath of fresh air.
@sianrose2182
@sianrose2182 8 ай бұрын
That was good...funny and thought-provoking. Thanks all.
@rdf5356
@rdf5356 8 ай бұрын
As well as being a lot of fun to watch, I have to say what a pleasure it is listening to 3 intellectually and morally courageous people not shy away from difficult topics. Great stuff!
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 8 ай бұрын
Imagine how many eyes could be opened if this was on 'our' BBC? You know, like it would be if they were forced to DO THE JOB they are paid to do: to Be Impartial. By 'our Govt'? Imagine that!
@sjewitt22
@sjewitt22 8 ай бұрын
​@@offshoretomorrow3346you mean agree with you,
@offshoretomorrow3346
@offshoretomorrow3346 8 ай бұрын
@@sjewitt22 Exactly. Because the only known alternative to swivel-eyed, anti-rational identity Marxism is "agreeing with me". Thanks for reminding me.
@Nailbunny2702
@Nailbunny2702 8 ай бұрын
100% on moving to the UK, Peter. I expatriated from the US to the UK in 2004. I have dual citizenship and can vote in both countries. The US is a sinking ship. It's such a slow drip no one notices it. I see it because I visit family & friends every few years so the difference over years is obvious.
@derbar7051
@derbar7051 8 ай бұрын
As a UK born citizen I could say the same for my own country. The UK is doomed in my opinion and many others feel the same. But I admire your postive outlook.
@jamesclark6487
@jamesclark6487 8 ай бұрын
Slow drip? The US is a complete basket case. Governed by evil, sounds religious but there really isn't another word for Biden's administration.
@danielgreen1124
@danielgreen1124 8 ай бұрын
From my recent visit to the UK it appears that it's well on its way to becoming an islamic emirate. That's not going to benefit the west in general or the UK specifically in any way.
@derbar7051
@derbar7051 8 ай бұрын
@@danielgreen1124 Absolutely agree with you. I can understand why people have hope but it's severely misplaced. C'est la vie.
@Maryarosi
@Maryarosi 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Really enjoyed this and very thoughtful.
@gregbradley7482
@gregbradley7482 8 ай бұрын
Excellent informed entertaining and stimulations chat folks. I'll echo what some others have said about Graham Linehan. He's a lovely guy and Ireland should be proud of him.
@robertlitsenberger9527
@robertlitsenberger9527 8 ай бұрын
Short answer.... NO Long answer..... NO
@jknowstheway1462
@jknowstheway1462 8 ай бұрын
Middle length answer.... F NO.
@Bartacolips
@Bartacolips 8 ай бұрын
Long answer..Nooooooo!
@sdrc92126
@sdrc92126 8 ай бұрын
Hegelian Dialectic: take two flawed diametrically opposing world view and synthesize an even worse view.
@peacemaker6662
@peacemaker6662 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful to see Peter and his, thought provoking epistemology series here in the UK. Wonderful to see people have to rationalise their beliefs.
@milo8425
@milo8425 8 ай бұрын
This is my favorite trio yet. You guys were PERFECT together. Like, start a TV show perfect.
@daveybd7
@daveybd7 8 ай бұрын
I love these Peter. This was possibly my favourite so far - thinking on their feet and able to justify their opinions whilst being open minded and willing to consider an alternative view. You make us all better thinkers with what you do 👍
@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786
@blindjusticeandcommonsense2786 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad Peter didn't edit out the stuff about muslims and Islam. Well done Peter. Good stuff.
@emilyking9795
@emilyking9795 8 ай бұрын
Wow! This was so good. Really put a smile on my face after a hard day. 3 great dudes chewing the cud Street Epistemology style. Thanks, Peter and Reed. PS. love your guests - so glad to see you with Graham. 🙂
@iftheshuafits4268
@iftheshuafits4268 8 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you put you're willing to put your money where you're mouth is and let people ask about claims and then defend your stance on it. Keep asking the important questions.
@atlarge2621
@atlarge2621 8 ай бұрын
Love this combination of players. Linehan especially.
@dettroitdominadora
@dettroitdominadora 8 ай бұрын
I wish you'd bring this to detroit Michigan. I feel like you'd get some really good and diverse opinions with how broadly our communities think here.
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
We’re frequently on the road, but no plans to go to Michigan…yet
@dettroitdominadora
@dettroitdominadora 8 ай бұрын
@@drpeterboghossian well, thank you for the thoughtful content that challenges us to contemplate uncomfortable and difficult topics to discuss. I believe these types of conversations are the only way we are going to end the extreme tribalism that is currently so prolific.
@samij6071
@samij6071 8 ай бұрын
@@drpeterboghossian If you want an enclave of people brainwashed by gender ideology Pittsburgh is a great choice. We are abt to open the first "trans exclusive" fertility clinic 🙄
@SebastianVaz
@SebastianVaz 8 ай бұрын
I love how hilarious yet, thought provoking this was lol
@cunninglinguist-hu1dz
@cunninglinguist-hu1dz 8 ай бұрын
Leo Kearse calling himself a comedian,wtf
@NewGoldStandard
@NewGoldStandard 8 ай бұрын
"Blair White has put the effort in. He's hot." (13:15) I laughed out loud.
@applesandpears9756
@applesandpears9756 8 ай бұрын
Indeed. He's a fully intact male who has had a lot of facial surgery, and wears a lot of make up. No men in women's spaces means all men.
@AmanitaWoodrose
@AmanitaWoodrose 8 ай бұрын
Plus if you see other vids of him that are not filmed by him w filters etc, he just looks weird and fake
@pollyparrot9447
@pollyparrot9447 8 ай бұрын
'He's put in the effort to look like a man's idea of an attractive woman, therefore all women should accept him as a woman'.
@L_Martin
@L_Martin 8 ай бұрын
It’s kind of funny he goes on to say to Graham, if you saw Blaire in person you’d assume that is a female - when I doubt HE has seen Blaire in person. He has only ever seen Blaire from angles and with lighting and seated etc. in the strictly controlled way Blaire allows via a computer screen… I suspect this guy would have no trouble knowing this wasn’t a chick if he was out at a club looking to pull. Or if he was looking for a childminder for his kid. All of a sudden I think he’d figure out something was different. Having said that, I do get his point. But I agree with Graham, at this point in time it costs too much to play along with every male who wants to be treated like a female…even the males who pass. It just gets weaponised.
@timdarville4827
@timdarville4827 8 ай бұрын
This is terrific. Three thinking people having a discussion about hot potatoes. Hot potatoes that so many zombie-like drones simply are too scared to talk about.
@thinkingoutloud7425
@thinkingoutloud7425 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoying watching these men thinking out loud.......
@JohnGibarian
@JohnGibarian 8 ай бұрын
What a superb conversation this was, possibly my favourite of the street epistemology so far!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for leaving it in Peter (and crew). Thank you.
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
You’re welcome!
@airstrip1836
@airstrip1836 8 ай бұрын
For anyone who doesn't know Graham's work, take a look at the ITCrowd, and Black Books....fanstastic comedy!
@larymcfart4034
@larymcfart4034 8 ай бұрын
As a Patriot and a Vet, I will be dead on the ground having choked on my own blood before I utter the words of fleeing my country and my countryman in the face of Despots and Demonic spirits! As a big fan that moment was tough to hear...
@RaefonB
@RaefonB 8 ай бұрын
I'm only 4 minutes in and already enjoying it. Just want to say - well done to Peter for stopping Graham from accidentally littering! 😄 You're a good man in numerous ways.
@asic45
@asic45 8 ай бұрын
Excellent, these 3 should be a weekly show
@rphrph167
@rphrph167 8 ай бұрын
Excellent video!!…..really loved hearing some honest opinions from a couple of guys I admire!!!…..Andrew Doyle and Nigel Farage next!!!…..this could be the start of a series!!
@mattcavanaugh6082
@mattcavanaugh6082 8 ай бұрын
Impressed that Kearse knows about the hierarchical forms of address in Japanese.
@DieFlabbergast
@DieFlabbergast 8 ай бұрын
Haha. But not about the hierarchical forms of address in Korean, which makes the Japanese system seem simple. But I suppose the Koreans don't count unless you're a teenager. (FYI, I live in Japan, married to a Japanese, but I like to give Korea a mention now and again.)
@ayeright320
@ayeright320 8 ай бұрын
Leo is a pretty sharp guy- that's why I like him. I'm on his patron because I like to hear his take on things. He's a great stand up
@mattcavanaugh6082
@mattcavanaugh6082 8 ай бұрын
@@DieFlabbergast I'll have to check those out!
@alvaroprietovideos
@alvaroprietovideos 8 ай бұрын
🔥Great! A long video to watch! Thank you for sharing
@Martin_Adams184
@Martin_Adams184 8 ай бұрын
What an excellent conversation! And thanks for the refreshing humour from all of you. I've encountered all three gentlemen before for one reason or another (online, though not personally; though I do know some of Graham's extended family); and I read the earliest writings on the Sokal Affair (also known as the Grievance Studies Affair) shortly after they first appeared. (That's one of Peter Boghossian's many claims to fame -- and among the self-righteous, to infamy.) I found it interesting and encouraging that none of them found the presence of Islam in the UK to be beneficial to the country. They raise some of the objections that I and others would recognise. But most of those objections are undesirable symptoms, rather than fundamental issues. In particular, they don't raise one of the most important underlying issues, which even underlies the threat to Jews. It is that Islam does not recognise one of the most fundamental concepts on which Western ideas of society and democracy are based. Islam recognises no distinction between the sacred and the secular. It is both a systematic religious belief and a systematic concept of politics. (Maybe I could put that better; but it will have to do for now.) And its teleology is essentially aggressive towards any societal concepts that are opposed to it. One can see the consequences of this in the way that the pro-Palestinian demonstrations have infected vast numbers of people who think they are being virtuous, but know next-to-nothing about the complexities of the subject. Underlying all that, including the rise of Islamic influence in the UK and other countries of Europe, is identity politics -- the most divisive and poisonous body of thought to have arisen in my lifetime, poisonous equally for individuals and for society. Thanks Men! Thank you so much for such a healthy discussion of so many difficult things. Such discussions are in sadly short supply. I think it was Aristotle who said it is important to be able to laugh, even about the most serious things. (You discussed that.) If I'm wrong on that attribution to Aristotle, please correct me.
@numberonedad
@numberonedad 8 ай бұрын
are aging unfunny know-nothing comedians a benefit to the West?
@PoliticalRegality
@PoliticalRegality 8 ай бұрын
Glinner!!❤❤❤❤❤❤
@UncleMinecraft
@UncleMinecraft 8 ай бұрын
Another great deliberation of ideas and opinions from two very talented people and a great thinker that is Peter. This format of questioning has been fundamental to helping me discover when my own views are becoming dogmatic or founded in bias. Its a great way of truly working out what you believe and how strongly founded those beliefs are.
@Nailbunny2702
@Nailbunny2702 8 ай бұрын
3 of my favourite people hanging out on Hampstead Heath!❤
@sverdmester
@sverdmester 8 ай бұрын
Freedom of speech vs personal responsibility is hard to compare because personal responsibility is a personal quality or ideal we can reach for, whereas freedom of speech is a freedom we must bestow upon others. (or rather, that our government must bestow upon us). Asking which is more important is fine, but I think that is why there is no use comparing them.
@cargumdeu
@cargumdeu 8 ай бұрын
That was neat. A whole bunch of Guardian readers went past. 'That cant be the chap off GB News? He only looks to be 5 foot 8 when he's in the studio'. Graham was keeping his head down just in case. I'm subscribing because of that (not that I havent been impressed by P Boghossian before). I like the format and the spirit of inquiry engendered. You'd be welcome on our shores any time, Peter!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thank you!! We’ll be back in January!
@cargumdeu
@cargumdeu 8 ай бұрын
@@drpeterboghossian bring a warm coat
@markjones4034
@markjones4034 8 ай бұрын
Thank you to all involved. Much needed, brave even? and definitely important conversation, thoughtfully and modestly expressed with wit, respect and good humour. There's still hope people, thank goodness/Phew! Makes me feel much less alone in these Billy Bonkers times.
@davidjohnbonnett
@davidjohnbonnett 8 ай бұрын
Fantastic. I wish I knew when you were doing these in London, I would have definitely book the day off work to see it live.
@EmperorsNewWardrobe
@EmperorsNewWardrobe 8 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@Nailbunny2702
@Nailbunny2702 8 ай бұрын
Or pretend to wander by and not know who Peter is!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Next time! We’re back in January!
@realMaverickBuckley
@realMaverickBuckley 8 ай бұрын
​@drpeterboghossian When when when??? Id like to pop along. I won't bother you. Although I guess if you give a heads up there could be those that would. 🙄 Edit: You just said similar in the video.
@erinbeckley5144
@erinbeckley5144 8 ай бұрын
Courtesy and politeness are a product of self responsibility. A person who doesn't take responsibility for their feelings and reactions will likely not have the self restraint to behave politely, or the ability to keep their cool when someone disagrees with them.
@samij6071
@samij6071 8 ай бұрын
Well said. Part of "personal responsibility" is also our responsibility to each other. Community matters. The social contract matters. Without it, we devolve into savagery.
@winterlantern5695
@winterlantern5695 8 ай бұрын
Have you ever even studied any Islamic nation? They literally have blasphemy laws. Even the "moderate" ones. Stop giving this genocidal religion the benefit of the doubt. They hate you and everyone that's not Muslim.
@ReeTM
@ReeTM 8 ай бұрын
Really enjoyed this, thank you!
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@MsMounen
@MsMounen 8 ай бұрын
That was great. I liked hearing full explanations of why the person was positive neutral or negative on a subject.
@darev6780
@darev6780 8 ай бұрын
Legendary men exposing the Woke madness through fun outdoor games . Fantastic.
@Claire-tn4xp
@Claire-tn4xp 8 ай бұрын
So brilliant. All three of you are amazing men. Leo makes me laugh so much 😂🎉
@YourLocalCopiumDealer
@YourLocalCopiumDealer 8 ай бұрын
Why I find it so funny when Brits use offensive language and comedy is because I was tought the english language in the most posh way possible. Due to this false expectation I have from brits, I'm always cought off guard by it, which creates an instant laugh for me. When I watch Peter laugh I suspect he, as an american, has a similar experience.
@joedge6142
@joedge6142 8 ай бұрын
We're the most sweary people on the planet 😂
@YourLocalCopiumDealer
@YourLocalCopiumDealer 8 ай бұрын
@@joedge6142True... though "you hide your snark under a stiff upper lip and disguise your sarcasm as eloquent linguistics." Many are impressed including your victims, before the bodies hit the floor.
@joedge6142
@joedge6142 8 ай бұрын
@@YourLocalCopiumDealer 😆 thank you.
@5lowburner
@5lowburner 8 ай бұрын
Peter’s questions really weren’t up to scratch here, mostly as Graham pointed out because there was no scale between the apparently-polemical positions. Nice to see those guys together though, thanks
@davidbrinnen
@davidbrinnen 8 ай бұрын
Looking at Peter in action, thinking on his feet like this, makes me think he would make a brilliant GM for something like Burning Wheel, where the focus is on the character's beliefs and how they are put to the test by the world around them.
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@blackburnparty
@blackburnparty 8 ай бұрын
Look at the father Ted guy fingers when he's talking about Muslims and imagration, inwardly he's feeling anxious, but because of his truthfulness, he as to speak about it. This is what the great majority of UK people think, even people who have settle here from abroad, years ago , and regarded as immigrant them selves. A small country can't support the massive influx of people coming into this country, and certainly don't support alot of their ideology
@rationalbacon5872
@rationalbacon5872 8 ай бұрын
Easy answer; No.
@FreakOfAges
@FreakOfAges 8 ай бұрын
10:35 so I'm gonna translate politeness as nice. I do feel they are the same, if not very similar. A kind person, who is not nice (polite) will help you fix a tire, but insult or make fun of you the entire time. A person who is nice, but not kind will do nothing to help, but understands and may give you a "that sucks". The question is who would you rather have around?
@a.j.b.8658
@a.j.b.8658 8 ай бұрын
Definitely the trash talking helper 👍
@piedpiperz80
@piedpiperz80 8 ай бұрын
It was interesting to see Peter play the game. I wonder if there's a way to do this where other players don't reveal their position until they're decided? To avoid group bias.
@junesmith790
@junesmith790 8 ай бұрын
This is such a “ down to earth talk” Great. Thanks Guys 👏🌸💕
@ademcfade
@ademcfade 8 ай бұрын
First time I have ever seen one of these, thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. I've been a big fan of Leo since he's started his KZbin channel, enjoy his incisive take on the clown world we live in, and Graham is a total legend I had the pleasure to Chat with in Leeds once after he did a stand up gig. I'm sure he is taller than 6'3, or I have shrunk lol Some fascinating topics from Peter, I do like the pacing of the show, some topics needing just a few words others a few minutes. I have subscribed and set the bell notification
@Cybertruck1000
@Cybertruck1000 8 ай бұрын
Fist for me too. A nice simple idea (Many best ideas are simple). It would be a great idea brought to a major channel. It might have happened in yester year but it would never get approved by the hurty feelings brigade now,
@ademcfade
@ademcfade 8 ай бұрын
@@Cybertruck1000 Could be a fun family Xmas game too! Instead of charades, let's see where everyone stands on immigration or other hot topics ;-) I reckon if it went mainstream it'd probably suffer for the same group think it as most other programs, with "safe" guests being invited, all with the same safe opinions... either that or people being terrified to have unpopular opinions in public It'd be cool having Leo and Owen Jones on the same show though ;-)
@rogerw2235
@rogerw2235 8 ай бұрын
That was Brilliant.
@YourLocalCopiumDealer
@YourLocalCopiumDealer 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see Peter do this in the Netherlands. We're know to be rude, but we just value honesty over courtesy. We're known for being cheap when we just don't like to live beyond our means, which is why we don't use credit cards. I won't deny any of these accusations, but I will give the context. Most times it's just different values, not a matter of right or wrong.
@Mercyful_Fate.
@Mercyful_Fate. 8 ай бұрын
Graham is a brilliant writer. Great pair doing this interview
@dinocarosi4303
@dinocarosi4303 8 ай бұрын
Black Books is still one of my all-time favourites.
@Mercyful_Fate.
@Mercyful_Fate. 8 ай бұрын
@dinocarosi4303 great show 👏
@cnrspiller3549
@cnrspiller3549 8 ай бұрын
Just read "Tough Crowd". It made me really angry and so sad for Graham. I am so very impressed by his strength and courage. Leo is hilarious. I love his KZbin monologues. Provocative, funny and thoughtful.
@angelh5762
@angelh5762 8 ай бұрын
That's so true Graham, drip feeding truth with distractions while creating instability.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 8 ай бұрын
"Short people got no reason Short people got no reason Short people got no reason To live They got little hands And little eyes And they walk around Tellin' great big lies They got little noses And tiny little teeth They wear platform shoes On their nasty little feet" Randy Newman
@smelltheglove2038
@smelltheglove2038 8 ай бұрын
Left foot, right foot, left foot, right foot.
@applesandpears9756
@applesandpears9756 8 ай бұрын
Harsh. I'm 5 feet tall and none of those things! Lols.
@stevenwiederholt7000
@stevenwiederholt7000 8 ай бұрын
@@applesandpears9756 :-)
@TheOriginalFishPond
@TheOriginalFishPond 8 ай бұрын
I have much more respect for someone who bought into DEI and saw the error of their way than someone who never believed it but propagated it for a few measly coins. If you come out now after being "woke" for years and say you never really believed it, you don't get a pass.
@ribbrascal
@ribbrascal 8 ай бұрын
Without watching the video: Short answer: No Long answer: Of course not, how could anyone be so foolish to sincerely say otherwise in 2023.
@ashleybennett4418
@ashleybennett4418 8 ай бұрын
i think this is the best street epistemology yet
@CrudelyMade
@CrudelyMade 8 ай бұрын
Leo is funnier here than he's been on the lotus eaters.. something about the lack of any restriction frees his reigns on being as honest and funny as possible. :-D
@duncefunce1513
@duncefunce1513 8 ай бұрын
He's on the newest episode of the Lotus Eaters, it's probably the funniest episode I've heard. Those boys are loosening up.
@MPFben
@MPFben 8 ай бұрын
I saw this as 55mins long and thought “I’ll just skip through a bit”. It ended up being on of the best 55mins of viewing I’ve had for a long while.
@rdg71-o9t
@rdg71-o9t 8 ай бұрын
Great to See Linehan laugh.
@justmemimi7338
@justmemimi7338 8 ай бұрын
33:45 I didn’t know this. Very interesting. Thanks and Happy New Year 🥂🍾
@Bobmudu35UK
@Bobmudu35UK 8 ай бұрын
Great pairing! I like both these men,but the way Graham has been treated is a scandal! Peter, you'd be welcomed with open arms to the UK.
@rosemaryalles6043
@rosemaryalles6043 8 ай бұрын
Intelligent and entertaining. Thank you for not editing out the immigration issue.
@BuceGar
@BuceGar 8 ай бұрын
This one was really good.
@BoojayDeeth
@BoojayDeeth 7 ай бұрын
Great format.
@leoncsorba9085
@leoncsorba9085 8 ай бұрын
Mr Lineham is a hero ❤
@ReidNicewonder
@ReidNicewonder 8 ай бұрын
My favorite moment: 37:57 - "I'm right here, Graham!" 😂
@dranderson6071
@dranderson6071 8 ай бұрын
One of the best outings. These 2 gents are great
@drpeterboghossian
@drpeterboghossian 8 ай бұрын
Yes they are!
@michellehudson6865
@michellehudson6865 8 ай бұрын
This was so interesting. Thankyou Peter.
@malirk
@malirk 8 ай бұрын
*People should have to pay for two seats:* Disagree. The first issue is that airlines should be required to make seats the average American can sit in comfortably. This means they can't CRAM people on the planes in to tiny seats. If the seats fit the average American comfortably, people who are larger would fit in better too.
@LeeStoneman
@LeeStoneman 8 ай бұрын
But then obviously there would be less seats on the plane. So obviously all of the seats would have to go up in price. You would be happy to pay more so that fat people can fly for the same price as you?
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