Peltast have HOW MUCH RANGE?! | Kvoth (Hades) vs CVC (Isis)

[@biggali]

@BoitTV , the showed number is damage the attack does, while the hover amount is dps. 17:30. The ttackspeed number is reload time between attacks (not attacks per second) Peltast now have 18 range base (from 16 in titans), and they gain range with the medium/heavy/champion archer upgrades.

[@MeatDucky]

throw a spear farther than you can shoot an arrow. Yessir

[@Jcoke2201]

it makes no sense, toxotes are also more buff looking than peltasts 😂

[@horakhty2217]

Their cape just hides the massive muscles they have

[@triantafilloslampos3650]

Yes but a whole spear doing less damage than an arrow??

[@surgeonsergio6839]

3:51 You can flip it by clicking on the god portraits or something. I've seen yodesla do it.

[@littlej211]

I simply do not understand how these players can get to the mythic age and have an army by 11:00! Maybe you could do a video on fast mythic build orders that dont leave you completely defenseless?

[@houtamelocoding]

They usually don't, on this particular game both players were very passive in the beginning, we only saw small "pokes" with the anubites.

[@TuvyahJ]

Great video as always! Do you upload the same date as the recording? If not, could you put date of recording/patch in description for example? Would be nice to know which patch the game was on since the changes might be significant!

[@MrAbgeBrandt]

Good idea, especially with the first balance update coming out!

[@hugocristini9433]

Damn, amazing transition between sides when casting ! Against eggy, i found the prodromos peltast strategy already pretty good éven in Titans, so i can imagine in retold now that thet are better !

[@MrAbgeBrandt]

Huge fan of count von count, used to watch his streams about a decade ago and he was always really nice with the viewers and a good player too. I feel like Isis really is an expert player god. Timings can be powerful, but you need to be really good to make best use of them. In slower games that go into the late game, Ra and Set are both superior in different ways, having better migdol, barracks or myth units respectively, depending on their minor god selections in conjunction with the major god bonuses. Do you know any other god that's has such a different performance between experts and less skilled players? Maybe Kronos?

[@VonCount]

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[@simonkapadia7582]

I don't know what they were thinking with launch greek stats honestly. The fact the peltast could take a 10 resource cost nerf and still be so strong is kind of alarming. But at least we've gotten quick changes, which is immensely reassuring. You had this launch state where podromos beat all migdol units, and peltasts were cheaper *and* better than slingers in every way, and had the range to lack any real limitations on that. And that was before you accounted for all the other factors. A lot of greek units got buffs going into retold release, while Egyptian units were mostly made more specialised and less generalised, so spearmen for instance lost some pierce armour, lost some damage but gained coefficient vs cav. Chariots lost most of their hack armour, became cav, etc. But the statistical balance between units was not handled well overall. Again, glad we're getting frequent patches right now.

[@Sigmestgi]

Imagine playing isis and being so behind in tech, think how much gold funeral rites would of generated over the game.

[@33mavboy]

A market from one top corner to the bottom is double what it is than from halfway but is always risky, you get more gold from trading than you do worrying about the hassle from gold mines, you do need to cut your vill count down though otherwise you wont have enough pop for military.

[@Ironjagg]

Yo boit can u review villrush set build and suggest a way to counter said build😂

[@BoitTV]

Surely vill rush isn't working... I don't believe it, they are so weak right?!

[@rafaeltargaryen]

Gastraphetes had nerf on Retold? They were much stronger on buildings... Or im crazy?

[@MrAbgeBrandt]

Yes, instead of crush damage they have a bonus vs buildings. But the pierce damage was just nerfed basically today.

[@lunix8028]

great game

[@dirkauditore8413]

Glad to see Peltasts got a much needed buff.

[@zan4336]

This aged well lol

[@Flamamacue]

it only took 20 years lol

[@SP-cp3qu]

n1

[@iilunatiik96]

What do you guys think about god powers costing favor even on the first use? It just would not be an exorbitant amount like the second uses on some. For example, meteor shower could cost 75 on first use that way it wouldn't lead to a near game ending situation immediately.

[@biggali]

Meteor already costs 1000/1000 food/gold and a minute of waiting. (Ignore the free 300/25 food/favor avenger and the priest upgrade w/ mythic)

[@MrAbgeBrandt]

Not a fan of that idea since it would mean that some powers would never get cast, because their power relies on being cast quickly, which clashes with having accumulate the necessary favour already.

[@houtamelocoding]

@@biggali 2 minutes of waiting even

[@user-bm7mo2ck6r]

Nah