Bold and the Beautiful - 1988 (S2 E190) FULL EPISODE 431

[@boldandbeautiful]

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[@taureanmay1411]

Go on.

[@mwendwamburugu]

I like this therapist. His sessions are very thought provoking and he is quite the professional.

[@elliejayjayusa]

No, he's a quack, you go with your feelings if you want, you will be messed up living on the street. Feelings aren't real and matter to only you.

[@SmugPug1]

Me too, I like his no nonsense approach. He is hitting the nail on the head.

[@israeliqueen153]

caroline wants to believe Ridge can't possibly love anybody but her.

[@ireyonmoya]

I don't get it, Stephanie wants Brooke out of the house and makes her feel very unwelcome, but at the very same time she expects her to sit at the dining table every evening with her?🤔 Has she invited Brooke for dinner before ? ..must have missed that one.😂

[@missyraffray4147]

Since when does Ridge have to be there for every meal??

[@elaineellard5848]

No she wants her son there and Brooke keeps taking him away.

[@kessbless5733]

Ridge feels Thorne is pressuring him to marry Brooke to get away from Caroline. Ridge has searched deep within himself and he knows that he can never stop loving Caroline.

[@CMilla69]

Right on, my Words exactly

[@lashondarochell7584]

WOW to have a Man be truly in love with you!! One day I pray to experience that

[@itsjodiewho]

@@lashondarochell7584 God didn't bring my husband to me until my late 30s. I wish I wouldn't have wasted my time before that with men who didn't treat me like Jesus treats the church. Don't settle for less.

[@LaTigraVioleta]

I love Cridge!

[@drlee2]

Thorne's character literally existed during this time to get Ridge to marry Brooke...and also to have Caroline constantly reject him in bed! lol

[@toya5185]

I find it hilarious how Stephanie is so Lazer focused on Ridge marrying an "opportunistic" Brooke, meanwhile, Kristin eloped with Clarke and he's literally running a muck!! She's focused on the wrong in-law

[@nightowlchad]

LoL as I do like both Brooke and Clarke. Including Kristen

[@DevikaK100]

Brooke and Stephanie were intertwined from Day 1.

[@tamikoshahunter2755]

No.. she's protecting Thorne.​@@nightowlchad

[@nightowlchad]

@@tamikoshahunter2755 whatever

[@magicalnoname]

and clarke was hitting on stephanie in the beginning! I still dont understand how we ended up here xD

[@irenewanjiru7346]

Stephanie's signs are confusing as far as Brook and Caroline are concerned

[@carerforever2118]

Caroline to Therapist " l have a lot to work out" How about you just tell your husband the truth, it will save you time and your money!

[@mara4450]

ITA. Caroline should definitely talk to her husband and at least suggest a break and a separation. If Caroline is ready to suggest to her mother-in-law that Caroline can be an option again for the older son, than the husband deserves to learn that truth too. If they had a separation for a while, it would at least not look as if Caroline just jumped beds, when she gets back with the other brother (while the divorce is pending).

[@semoneg2826]

Lol...true😙 😅

[@kchellkat1847]

@@mara4450 Yes she has been jumping beds and only wants to be with Ridge and her poor husband doesn’t get anything in their bed, enough is enough she is the reason for Thorne shooting Ridge and I can’t stand her attitude all the time

[@georgcorfu]

20.16 For the first time Stephanie here is logical.

[@greggel]

Stephanie tries to discourage Caroline , and begins somewhat abusing Caroline psychologically

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

I love Brooke's outfit, this is how a courtship should be, both men and women doing things for the other. Each person feeling special

[@greggel]

Thorne, the only problem Ridge is having to marrying Brooke, is that she is not Caroline.

[@PostPandemicMadonna]

Finally Stephanie sees like it is. That Ridge is falling in love with Brooke too.

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

I fast forward many of Caroline's episodes, I did not watch or listen to her scene with Stephanie

[@PostPandemicMadonna]

@@eunicemafaesa9632 she bores me to dead

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

@@PostPandemicMadonna Sometimes her reactions are funny, especially under the following circumstances: 1)When Ridge shows her that she is wrong about his relationship with Brooke, like when Ridge told her, that Brooke moving in, was his idea and he asked many times before she said yes. The egg on her face was everything and when she said Ridge is the one that jumped on Brooke' steam bathing and when Bridge corrected her to say, B is the one that called R, the egg on her face again. I like how they both prove to her, she knows nothing and she is always wrong about their relationship. I only watch Caroline when she is with Bridge, either than that I fast forward her scenes 😅😅😅😅

[@Thebeautiful11]

Stephanie is so damn immature. She can't let Ridge fall in love. She sides with the witch who destroyed her sons. Unbelievable.

[@greggel]

she will even encourage it too for other reasons of course. She will be furious with Brooke with the unplanned pregnancy though, because she knows that will alienate Ridge who will start and see her as the calculating and manipulating b*****(that she considers her) instead of young, carefree, sweet and good girl that he currently sees her

[@lusciousleo1971]

Oh how I miss Stephanie 😢

[@kessbless5733]

The only thing that could keep Ridge and Caroline apart is death. When Caroline is involved in the equation, no other woman matters at all.

[@LaTigraVioleta]

Facts!

[@VjAdrasaVideos]

And now Stephanie sees that Brooke's love is importarnt because Caroline is gonna start a war

[@MrCraigblaze]

Thanks for the Upload 👍!! XD It is a pleasure looks back at the 35 year old episodes !! XD I KNEW Caroline made love to Ridge !! XD

[@israeliqueen153]

They didn't make love. it was rape because caroline didn't know. They rewrote it so it wouldn't be considered rape.

[@taureanmay1411]

Thanks 🙏👍.

[@szemingwu1980]

I miss Nabisco Shredded Wheat and Bern Bennett 5:28 Oooh that dramatic music!!! 21:31

[@DevikaK100]

Thorne says "Brooke won't wait around." Um, wishful thinking. In 35 years, she's rarely said "no" to Ridge.

[@elaineellard5848]

She’s still hanging around. 😂😂😂😂

[@sbookey]

I am a bit amazed that Stephanie allowed Brooke to live there at all, but she seems to think the price of residency is to berate Brooke for unintended, unvoiced offenses she pulls out of thin air.

[@MrSlimm1976]

Brooke was fun made ridge laugh …she brought life to the Forrester family !!!…Looking at these old episodes Ridge has always loved Brooke.. Yesterdays episode when she told him about Deacon he called “Logan” and she was the love of his life 😀😀

[@agnesmafaesa2922]

How I know Ridge loves her , she could do the most terrible thing and he would still call her by her pet name "Logan", nothing can change his feelings for her.

[@quanitagraham6570]

Yes goes to show how stupid Ridge is and always be.

[@mcjoysmith9103]

No she wasn't! Caroline was! Even Ronn Moss said so on a talk show!

[@lilmzflizza2273]

@@mcjoysmith9103Caroline always makes Ridge laugh. She’s a high class , beautiful, and rich. Ridge adores and loves her!

[@GM4mp035]

Stephanie is way out of line with Brooke.

[@greggel]

Some ppl here claim that with Ridge it was love at first sight with Brooke..No my dears, it was love after a year long relationship/courtship/acquaintance/sexual experiences etc, which is the normal of course, this is what happens in real life too. Ridge/Caroline though were soulmates, they were in love without the sex and long relationship. They could have spent a lifetime as brother-in low-sister-in-law and still being in love.

[@faryarmuusa9323]

Yes !

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😅

[@marn25]

I don't believe that there is love at first sight. It's attraction at first sight and if it's love eventually one could call it love at first sight. Ridge's and Brooke's first meeting was attraction at first sight, and indeed Ridge and Brooke was love after all the things you mention. It's just that, that first meeting was a very romantic moment of the show, one of the most romantic first meetings. so it may seem as love at first sight to many people.

[@greggel]

@@marn25 COrrect, that is what have been my impressions in later years when they had flashbacks of the first meeting. But seeing it again in these episodes, it didnt feel that way to tell you the truth...i think the montages under "Unforgettable" song created this "illusion" sort of

[@marn25]

@@greggel Well, I liked that they had this subtle double meaning on their brief conversation, when Ridge replied "me too" to Brooke's "Sorry". So I can understand when people give it significance. At the very least it was significant as the first meeting of an important pair of the show. I also find significant Stephanie's and Brooke's first meeting, which was not important on its own, but important as an "historical" moment of these 2 enemies first meeting.

[@Arctic_Falcon]

Ridge has the perfect woman in Brooke, he is an idiot for still even considering wanting boring Caroline. Brooke would love him and remain loyal forever. Who cares if she likes his money and power (who wouldn't?), she also LOVES him as a person -- everything else just only a bonus for her. Caroline just can't be trusted that way, she is an eternal shopper.

[@Angelika....]

stephanie is always upset with brooke, no wether what she does..even if she breathes,she is upset...find the mistake in these lines

[@karrenherrin90]

Oh silly Caroline, there is nothing personal or private in the Forrester home.

[@bronwynb7090]

Omw they're all grown up children!🤦🤦🤦 Stephanie leave them alone!

[@elaineellard5848]

Maybe they should move out of her home then.

[@israeliqueen153]

But she told Brooke she wasn't proud of that moment with ridge. caroline is such a liar.

[@marn25]

"There isn't that better"? Now come here and let me bully you a little bit

[@pawew.135]

21:20 Stephanie is not surprised at all.

[@kessbless5733]

Why couldn't Ridge marry Brooke, with all the romantic trouble she is going through for him?

[@TKDDL1690]

Because he loves Caroline

[@kessbless5733]

@@TKDDL1690 i love you Ladies 😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘😘

[@LaTigraVioleta]

Because he didn't truly love her...she did all that for nothing smh

[@tamikoshahunter2755]

​Why are women so naive these days? What happened to "prove your love to me"? Falling that hard so fast is inconceivable.@@LaTigraVioleta

[@marn25]

If every family dinner in your family is special Stephanie, and Brooke is interfering with that, then there is no night for Brooke and Ridge to go out or for anybody else. Nobody eats out then at night at the Forrester household. You will say anything to make Brooke uncomfortable, even use such petty and stupid excuse, it's unbelievable

[@Thebeautiful11]

Yep.

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

I did not let that get into me, because when she later admitted to seeing that Bridge is in love, that was all I needed to hear from her.

[@marn25]

@@eunicemafaesa9632 I don't know if Stephanie means that, because I think now she is trying to convince Caroline so that she stays away. Not that it should matter what Stephanie thinks. She hates Brooke so for now I am not sure if any good thing that comes out of the mouth concerning Brooke is what she really believes

[@DLWells]

Wow. I started watching this thing back in the latter days of Caroline (but due to the lovely Joanna Johnson's return 18-ish months later), and I never noticed this before: Joanna Johnson and Susan Flannery ("Stephanie") have the same curious grimace / furrowed brow. Looking back and seeing their scene together in this episode, I now think it would've been better casting to have Joanna as Kristen Forrester and Teri Ann Linn as Caroline! (Her "sisterly" scenes with Ridge / Ronn always seemed a little too "flirty"/cringey, even when Teri as Kristen would later come back for visits in the 90s for the occasional wedding.)

[@nightowlchad]

I'm a big fan of Teri Ann Linn. I'm lucky that both she and I follow one another on Instagram

[@PostPandemicMadonna]

Stephanie is weak in some way. She prefers ilussion a lot of times.

[@parrypapp5065]

Interesting psychology sessions

[@Indigo_Boi757]

I was sure I’d read somewhere that Taylor was Caroline’s therapist?

[@LspLc]

You're not too far off. Aside from being a psychiatrist, Taylor was also an oncologist, if I'm not mistaken. When Caroline was diagnosed with cancer, she started seeing Taylor for her cancer treatments and follow-ups.

[@veronicaalmeda8014]

And there is Stephanie the control freak again, trying to control Caroline this time because she knows now what Thorne is capable of doing. Things aren't looking well for her.

[@drlee2]

That Caroline-Stephanie conversation was gold. JJ and SF are easily the 2 best actors on the show at this point. I'm not really the biggest Stephanie fan because of how nosy she is, but Flannery makes hilarious shocked reactions! lol I like the fact that Stephanie actually observed little things between Ridge and Brooke in OffScreenVille because that's just like real life. Most shows give characters tunnel vision and they are only aware of what's going on along with the viewer.

[@tamikoshahunter2755]

No.. Stephanie made the bold & beautiful worth watching. When she left, storylines went bezerk. Nothing made sense.

[@georgcorfu]

20.50 Stephanie is very logical.

[@daliaelkhatib1726]

dellutional Thorne the only ring will Ridge give will be to Caroline never Brooke so stop this act he knows you are afraid it is so obvious so stop advicing him about his life and advice your self you are the one who needs help and his terrific woman will leave is you

[@janemmmi]

Excellent episode…that I hope Brooke and Thorne fans watch and UNDERSTAND what THE THERAPIST says to Caroline! Know the truth people! THIS IS THE CRUCIAL episode that the psychologically naive Brooke/ Thorne fans need to know that SUPPRESSION or DENIAL of feelings is a strong psychological defense mechanism shown by Caroline: given that she was overprotected, naive/ betrayal by the love of her life on wedding day; and then traumatized by stranger rape DID TO POOR Caroline; Caroline is the victim people of trauma after trauma and it IS ONLY NOW THAT SHE IS GETTING THERAPY..and thank goodness: this therapist has gotten to the heart of the issue….her suppression/denial of her LOVE , is open and freeing! SO GLAD SHE PROCLAIMED it out loud! But Stephanie was mean to shut her up,, to PROTECT her insane son THORNE, how very sad for Caroline!

[@DLWells]

On top of all that, which I agree with... The truth is: Thorne, as originally written, and as depicted throughout these early episodes, was guilty of emotional rape. The way he took advantage of Caroline's vulnerability, knowing she was not ready for marriage, biding his time until the date of the rape trial verdict, was/is beyond despicable. The constant, deliberate interrupting of Caroline and Ridge anytime they're alone, without himself (Thorne) or Brooke around to chaperone, the way he is perpetually pressuring her when they're alone, sometimes nonverbally, with all his sweet-talk... always, going on and on and ON about how "great" Brooke is for Ridge, then "Oh, Caroline, you're so beautiful, you're so important to me, *I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOU* because you mean everything; you're my life!" It's conscious, it's deliberate, and it is monstrous. No wonder Caroline's always leaving early for the office (where her "devoted" husband still pops in) and coming home late... And Thorne gets away with it! ALL of it! Then much of the same takes place ten years later with Taylor Hayes. ("She's not Ridge's toy! She's MY toy! Gimme!") It's quite maddening.

[@Karla_Marie]

Once you have had a proper love making you can't go back to milquetoast.

[@sbookey]

I love how Caroline thinks that accidentally fucking Ridge was "an incident" and not at all significant.

[@carol-annlennards8183]

Brooke you have so lost the plot and surely the game. Its he who finds not she who finds. Let the man court you not the other way around. A man knows when he wants sometbing and when hes playing for keeps smh.

[@Salmiyaguy1]

This was around the time that I became more than a casual viewer of this show. I still remember the CBS promos about Brooke getting her man by playing to his senses. LOL! Soap Digest hailed the Brooke and Stephanie rivalry as Best Enemies of the Year and rated soap sex scenes from A to X with Brooke and Ridge's sauna scene earning B&B an X.

[@mcjoysmith9103]

I never liked the Brooke character But! I will say! She! shure knew how to romance Ridge or any of the men she persude! went after may be a better word.

[@agnesmafaesa2922]

Ridge is getting spoilt now, talking about how simple dinners are now mundane for them and how he expects belly-dancers ...Loool

[@greggel]

she is a seductress

[@gloriahamner3788]

Caroline I wanted it, I got it ,it was good and I want some more.poor thorn

[@Thebeautiful11]

Caroline put herself in that position and wants to play the victim.

[@janemmmi]

It is shameless how much pressure Thorne (and Brooke) have placed on RIDGE to make a commitment to Brooke ( count the number of times they have begged him to engage/ marry her) and the sad part is they did the same to get Caroline marry Thorne ( with the stupid “Thorne is better, & more sensitive better for you Caroline” NONSENSE)….Brooke was shameless to even read/ hide Ridges love letter to Caroline! The deception is endless for Brooke/ Thorne! The THERAPIST WAS EXCELLENT FOR GETTING CAROLINE ACKNOWLEDGE that she was SUPPRESSING her LOVE for Ridge (& marrying insanely relentless Thorne! ) her biggest mistake! People need to realize this concept of psychology: naive sheltered girls with overprotective dads like Bill, and whose trust broke by a fiancé and then raped by a stranger, are not BOLD ( or deceptive and brash like Brooke who relentlessly DESPERATELY seduced him) versus BEAUTIFUL/CLASSY / CARING about other people feel, like Caroline herself! Go get your man Caroline, the one that Brooke deceptively helped herself to & Thorne shamelessly pursued… even when THEY BOTH KNEW DAMN WELL THAT RIDGE LOVES CAROLINE❤️ CRIDGE

[@agnesmafaesa2922]

Stephanie: "It's more than that, just watch them, going up and coming down the stairs, missing dinners, leaving early and coming late, it's in their eyes" Who knew Stephanie was such a romantic and unintentional said something poetic about Bridge falling in love 😍🥰💘💕💗❤. We know Stephanie is not Team Bridge, but I have said if you can't see Bridge' s love, chemistry and attraction, I don't know but if you can't see, don't worry. Stephanie has said in several occasions Ridge loves Brooke, she knew it and saw it, that was never her issue but rather she did not want Brooke to hurt or destroy Ridge.

[@marn25]

@@Donderdrammels When do you think Stephanie realizes it? I mean for real not when she leads Brooke and Caroline on to protect Thorne's marriage

[@faryarmuusa9323]

@@Donderdrammels in this episode , Stephanie try to manipulate Caroline and to tell her that Ridge is faling in love with Brooke (not true of course , we know he will choose caroline ) ...to save the mariage of her young son .she don't want brother against brother !!.

[@Thebeautiful11]

She doesn't want Brooke to have Ridge. Jealous and gross.

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

@@marn25 I have said the decision to marry someone is not a measure of love, Caroline is a testimony to that. She is married to Thorne but doesn't love him, so I think Ridge loved Caroline when she married Thorne and I think he has some residual feelings and guilt for how things ended for and with Caroline. I think Ridge and Brooke both fell in love at first sight, I personally do not think he loves Caroline more than Brooke. Let's see Ridge had a lot to consider when he chose between the two 1)Ridge has expressed his guilt about hurting Caroline 2)Caroline had disclosed to him about Brooke hiding the letter, which made him feel robbed of marrying Caroline and writing his wrongs 3) Lettergate, made him doubt Brooke 4) The influence from Stephanie about Brooke being an opportunist 5) The unplanned pregnancy, which he viewed as a trap 6) I am not sure if he knew about Beth and Eric Those were enough reasons not to choose Brooke ... Whereas they were no questions or doubts regarding Caroline, perhaps except she married his brother, when she did not love him. The maths counts in Caroline's favour, if I was Ridge based on common sense not emotions or love or romance or chemistry, I would choose Caroline. It makes much more sense. So the chart topping song about Ridge choosing to marry Caroline is not proof of love, for me, it's more logic. Women are so conditioned to earning love by conducting themselves in an impressionable way for men, I understand why many would root for Caroline. I think Caroline is the depiction of how society has glorified the repression of women. Be a victim, make others happy and be bitter just to get or keep a man. I don't think sexual pemiscuity or fornication is a revolution or liberation for women, however I think Brooke was a progressive character for the 80s.First of all at this point, she was not pemiscous but she was daring. Going to see Caroline, because she knew she could change her life, being strong against Ridge from the start, although she wanted him, going for him when she was ready because she wanted to, refusing to accept many of his living invitations before accepting and being willing to pack and go, at anytime, she felt, she deserves better or more. Not letting people of more money or power scare her. She lives by her own rule book.

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

@@Thebeautiful11 But unlike Caroline she has some dose of reality that there is mutual love between Bridge 😂😂😂

[@miguelangelsamaniegobaraho7711]

mi amor

[@morine5236]

Caroline to Dr Cameron Dr Cameron to Caroline

[@elaineellard5848]

What the heck is Brooke wearing?! 😂😂

[@gloriahamner3788]

When did the sex stop between Caroline and thorn after the honeymoon 🤔

[@greggel]

after she had the night with Ridge

[@agnesmafaesa2922]

@@greggel I was about to say, the sex stopped after she got some from Ridge

[@fraiser3330]

@@agnesmafaesa2922 “got some@ lolololol 👍🏼😂

[@agnesmafaesa2922]

@@fraiser3330 What do you mean ?

[@adithalee8660]

@@agnesmafaesa2922 Exactly! That's why I said it was actually sex that drove Cridge together. And the same with Tridge. They lie and say it's like that with Bridge and it wasn't.

[@eunicemafaesa9632]

I can't wait for tomorrow

[@elenanicakau3637]

Just fantasize

[@elaineellard5848]

If she loved him so much why didn’t she run his feet.

[@morine5236]

Caroline to Dr Cameron Dr Cameron to Caroline Dr Cameron wears my uniform circa late nighties 🏩New Look:)