There once was a man from B.C. Who made vidjeos for others to see. A guy sent him some stuff, his review was kinda ruff. But it was entertaining for me.
@mastershake420196 жыл бұрын
learnelectronics is he related to that fella from Nantucket?
@timbarnett52533 жыл бұрын
Kinda rough is putting it mildly.
@natas07333 жыл бұрын
@@mastershake42019 who could knob himself up? Yea they're cousins.
@mowerguys7 жыл бұрын
Spring lock washers are good for 2 things, letting water into the threaded joint so it can corrode, and snapping in half so the retained part can be really fucking loose.
Fantastic, thanks! Wife and Kiddo back from fun times while I edited, now off to Nana's to afternoon party with a 97 year old rock star.
@MrSidiox7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic that you're plugging John's channel. Have been really enjoying his content and he truly deserves more subscribers.
@aberratic7 жыл бұрын
Jesus christ I'm here in 8 minutes and it's already got 1000 views, what a sell out!
@the_real_ch37 жыл бұрын
have you seen hit job they did to Joerg of the slingshot channel?
@heyyou51897 жыл бұрын
I am now a more knowledgeable couch machinist.
5 жыл бұрын
Not more than me
@scottwright68224 жыл бұрын
Machining couches must require some specialist fixtures.
@heyyou51894 жыл бұрын
@@scottwright6822 Takes a special fixture to hold a beer proper.
@tylertc17 жыл бұрын
And people, please realize he's not talking directly to or ragging on John @ NYC CNC this entire film. Most of these comments are to get you thinking when you're going into production.
@tylertc17 жыл бұрын
Lol, I should have prefaced my original comment with "non-regulars" to the channel. You're exactly right though - that sort of insight is priceless and is exactly why I enjoy these so much. "Knowing" NYC CNC from the channel, I feel John's the type of guy to see that kind of feedback as priceless, and wouldn't be surprised if many of the suggestions go directly into the next batch / design.
@45calshooter7 жыл бұрын
agreed. As a manufacturer you should be made aware of what needs to be and how much or little. No disrespect just not "a yes man". I made good monies doing just that.
@AEON.7 жыл бұрын
i am a beginner and i like them both on account without any videos at all id be fuckdizzled lol props to all video makers!
@milldawgj95987 жыл бұрын
I've installed and built lots of equipment over the years. And I've found that the companies that engineers want to hear what the guys in the field in have to say, tend to make far superior equipment.
@rogerj73277 жыл бұрын
Not sure where some folks get the idea that John is a know it all. I haven't watched a ton of his vids, but I've seen a few occasions where he's shown a mistake he made on a job and could've easily edited it out of the video. My impression of his channel is that he's not just showing what he knows, but also what he's learning.
@gordo3di7 жыл бұрын
I must say AvE is brutal but he has expanded my manufacturing and design knowledge immensely. I've actually learned more on this channel (and johns) than most 4 year colleges can teach. I fully agree with the line "It's the little things that matter". I can't tell you how many people have seen a poorly installed "sticker" and thought "well, what else is wrong". Great review and scary reviewer. AvE is a madman but in a good way and John seems to be a great owner who accepts criticism well. It's a VERY hard thing to do. One quick edit: It's very refreshing to hear someone understand what a business must spend to make money. "On order to make a buck he must have to spend 3 bucks". Most people simply do not realize this.
@ryansteffen81697 жыл бұрын
Gordon Lapl
@xmachine70036 жыл бұрын
Constructive criticism= Helpful
@fortunecookie12814 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@MF175mp4 жыл бұрын
You can pick up details in college as well. If you're not tuned in you can obviously rush through it without learning all that much and just goofing off and drinking though
@brandonfedorick81067 жыл бұрын
My new motto: when I build shit, build it as if AvE will review it.
@MattsAwesomeStuff7 жыл бұрын
This is maybe my favorite BOLTR ever, except maybe the first couple. I haven't learned much from teardowns lately, mainly is all the same stuff I've already learned how to recognize from previous teardowns. It was interesting to tear down an amateur-ish product, more feedback and tweaks on how to save money, why the design could be improved, etc. Feels like I got invited to the table at the process. I'd enjoy seeing more semi-professional BOLTRs and hearing why they maybe did things one way, how you might do them differently. I like how you keep in your mistakes too, when you think it's done one way and you find out you're wrong you take it back, not just edit it out. I think the world is made a lot better place the more people are exposed to role models not making a big deal out of being wrong. Also, emphasizing the value of criticism as an investment in that person, rather than an insult, the better. The less stubborn defensive knowi-it-alls and crybabies we breed as a society, the better.
@aussiebloke6097 жыл бұрын
6:20 "Fair dinkum"...? Man...I haven't heard _that_ since I was a kid in Sydney. Getting homesick - hit me right in the feels. :-)
@WatchWesWork7 жыл бұрын
Most likely he drilled, reamed, tapped, etc the holes complete from one side. Then he just flipped it and faced the other side and did the chamfer. So, if the register was off a little from one side to the other, that accounts for the chamfer shift.
@Andyjpro7 жыл бұрын
He said they were NPT threads, so to get use out of that taper, you'd need to tap them from the side you intend on using them. OF course, I believe that statement to be a mistake in the lang-age dept because why would these be pipe thread?
@Andyjpro7 жыл бұрын
My mistake, it's correctedI need to watch the _hole_ thing before commenting
@jpkalishek45867 жыл бұрын
sounds like NPT first then he corrects it later.
@WatchWesWork7 жыл бұрын
It happens to the best of us...
@dethadder07 жыл бұрын
Could have been drilled and tapped on the machine, then chamfered by hand. This would account for a an error that is seemingly random. If it was an error due to a work piece being removed and/or repositioned, all holes would likely be affected.
@WigWagWorkshop7 жыл бұрын
I agree, that is why I support the folks that share and inspire to get out in to the workshop and have a laugh
@moeszyslack46767 жыл бұрын
Excellent video with lots of good advice and constructive comments for anyone to apply to their own products or even things they make for themselves. I also enjoy John's channel.
@rjk71047 жыл бұрын
Free enginerding advice. John's got it made in the shade.
@gusbisbal98037 жыл бұрын
6:16 did he just say fairdinkum? I am Ozzie and that is the first time I have heard a none Australian say it the way it should be. Not as a joke.
@opwards5 жыл бұрын
i caught that too lol
@blackhawks81H4 жыл бұрын
@@opwards well, one of you drongos better have bought him some fackin VB long necks!
@opwards4 жыл бұрын
@@blackhawks81H ahhhhh the old king browns of visitors beer
@Calligraphybooster3 жыл бұрын
I picked up 'flat as a pannekoek' So he's fluent in dutch too!
@Lorenz.Machine7 жыл бұрын
The design is a result of lack of experience in industry. I like John's channel and have learnt a lot from his channel but without going out there and doing your time in the dirt (factories, mines, job shops) there's just so much you'll miss when it comes to designing a tool like this.
@richardeadon63967 жыл бұрын
"Luckily it's in metric" - AvE, on the internet forever
@telecrate7 жыл бұрын
Including that star impact socket is a must IMO. I built one of these contraptions myself and using regular socket will not work as they chowder up after a dozen uses. You have to have impact rated ones. Impact rated sockets are extremely hard to find in certain sizes. In my case I had to use a star impact socket as the drawbar nut is square (G0704/BF20). Funny though, I used a brass bushing instead of a bearing as you suggest here...
@cylosgarage7 жыл бұрын
I love john. He's so positive all the time and he's a great success story. Glad ur supporting him
@QuitProcrastinating7 жыл бұрын
Honest and constructive, I bet you made the Bridgeport jig better for everyone getting a new batch. Free design review.
@CalculyticCuber7 жыл бұрын
I remember watching NYCCNC's earlier stuff, involving a silencer for a .22 rifle. Good stuff.
@patburnsent7 жыл бұрын
After that review, he might want to use it if you know what I mean.
@stuartligo69757 жыл бұрын
SOME TIMES I FEEL LIKE I'M WATCHING SWEDISH CHEF! :D GREAT CHANNEL!
@joshvhsle057 жыл бұрын
i love your sense of humour. always makes for a good watch, cheers mate.
@rayp.4543 жыл бұрын
You are correct about split lock washers being worthless. Especially when used with flat washers. Your extended hex drawbar is used with the right angle attachment, so when you lower the quill to install it, you still have hex to tighten the drive collet. Nice video. Thanks.
@halnywiatr7 жыл бұрын
@ 18:20 "It's not centered in the hole." That's for her pleasure.
@0Myles07 жыл бұрын
The best you tube tool and shop video channel. Nearly, half a million subscribers agree.
@viol9997 жыл бұрын
Boy, that is one heck of a long draw bar ya' got there kid.
@nathangek7 жыл бұрын
"Flat as pannenkoeken" < You never cease to entertain me haha
@jamaltotah78585 жыл бұрын
New to the channel and you sir are spec frickin tacular!! Laughter and learning ...can’t go wrong. Keep it up!,
@padlockbeats1517 жыл бұрын
"Pretty loose in the hips there.. Ridden hard and put away wet!" LMAO
@all4thezuki Жыл бұрын
I spent years teaching my friend how to say "specific" instead of "pacific" and you just threw that all out the window at 4:25, thanks allot 😛 lol. Love your content, have learned a whole hell of a lot. Keep doing it. Thanks again.
@stampingdieguy1477 жыл бұрын
AvE- The drawbar in your Bridgey is for a 2J (vari-speed head). They work fine for a J head (step pulley), but are made to project above the taller belt housing of the 2J. Both heads have the same spindle length, hence why they interchange from a manually operated stance. Not so with a power drawbar. I totally agree about the fasteners and such. Counterbored holes for SHCS or countersunk for flat heads would be way cleaner, and is the right way to go. It is a simple solution compared to other power drawbars (like Kurt), but the alignment issues don't work out. Some attention to detail was lacking when this was designed or built. My cred- I'm a toolmaker that runs Bridgeports (I even have two at home- yeah, I'm fucked in the head) and have had to fix them when they break.
@bstanga7 жыл бұрын
I bought this kit before John started offering the assembled unit, you had to go to HF and get your own impact tool, it was $50 and seemed well worth it.
@KastaRules7 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I watch all these vids, I'll never be a machinist but... there is something *mesmerizing* about this stuff.
@johnthompson34625 жыл бұрын
I agree. Just does entertaining videos.
@Discomestu3 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a machinist myself, but..." you got me with that one, again.... your word-shlingin' never ceases to make me happy and more confident in my own daily verbal diarrhea.
@skivvy35652 жыл бұрын
Most people have to pay quite a bit of money to get a thorough look at their product like that. Especially with so much knowledge to help make a better product and recommendations on manufacturing as well
@allphasemobility54967 жыл бұрын
Your chamfers look off enter because your thread breaks out in a spiral! Ill bet the side with pin holes looks on center?
@ala1998mc7 жыл бұрын
All phase mobility scrolled to far to find this. seemed so obvious to me, glad someone else knows.
@SoCalRyeder7 жыл бұрын
Its always neat seeing cross over between channels I watch. :)
@CurtPottorff7 жыл бұрын
Also keep in mind that chamfers on threads (especially coarse ones) will look like they are offset due to part of the thread being exposed, giving the illusion that the chamfer is shifted towards the opposite end of the exposed thread.
@RJGMWR7 жыл бұрын
Not sure if someone mentioned it but yes it looks like you have an extended drawbar. Nice to have if using a right angle attachment or other attachment on the quill.
@tylerwildman71197 жыл бұрын
i really like watching NYC CNC he seems like a genuine good guy
@SgtStinger7 жыл бұрын
Doesn't look like the chamfers are offset to me, looks like the thread is tricking your eyes. Try putting a counter sunk screw in there to check. Also, dual rate springs only work if one of the rates bottom out before the end of travel, so in this application he could just replace the heavier spring with a longer delrin piece.
@MrQuasar19587 жыл бұрын
Yet again nicely narrated by someone who knows his stuff
@tailormachineworks2817 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this, even the crack about Jersey. Oh yeah Jimmy is fine and in a safe place.
@LazerLord107 жыл бұрын
1/4" NPT? Wouldn't 1/4-20 make more sense?
@samuelavelar27004 жыл бұрын
2:53
@feez3574 жыл бұрын
AvE admits he's not a machinist. That's why he's impressed with a flat fixture plate. It's 1/4-20
@tylertc17 жыл бұрын
Finally early on one of these!! - keep choochin - John's energy is intoxicating. Awesome stuff.
@davidfarning82467 жыл бұрын
Awesome interaction between Ave and John. While It might have looked painful from the outside... a couple of iterations back and forth between these two will result in a much better product.
@raymondmucklow37937 жыл бұрын
if I ever buy anything super expensive id like to hire ya, to look it over, the attention to detail. It's why I watch your channel. Finally got me a brushless drill/driver. my first brushless watch your ass I was running in an #9 2 1/2 deck screw I sent it right thru my 2x10.
@srirangdhawale52427 жыл бұрын
Post Clickspring, any metal surface that isn't lapped, I shake my head, I shake my head....
@beanstyle7 жыл бұрын
Your drawbar is the length needed for a right angle attachment. You have to run the quill down to clamp those on so a longer drawbar is needed so it can be tightened with the quill down.
@vansien7 жыл бұрын
John's going to be sat in the loo crying his eyes out over this review lol
@ANo-qc1qx7 жыл бұрын
Would you look at that. Less than 5 minutes in and its already got schmoo on it.
@MisterDivineAdVenture4 жыл бұрын
I recognize a guy when he's busy. Some people have a focus that's "build it now" and some are "design a system" types. It's very lucky when you combine these - there's a few on KZbin who do that.
@tonyc.45284 жыл бұрын
Having just bought one of those butterfly impacts from Harbor Fright, I can tell you that the Milton "M" male comes with the tool...mine did anyway.
@st3ak5717 жыл бұрын
You are the one youtuber for me that I really like watching but have no idea what you are doing, subbed.
@max_archer7 жыл бұрын
It looks pretty obvious to me that the holes for the vertical rods were drilled out of place. That's why one of them is way too close to the edge, and why the socket isn't centered in the hole. Obviously the whole "frame" assembly still fits, so my guess would be that something went wrong with the fixture and the whole baseplate was out of place when they were drilled, or that it was a code error.
@dimitrispetsalis24627 жыл бұрын
He really is livin the dream! You are freakin AWESOME John!
@rdstngry5 жыл бұрын
AvE, just a little tid bit for you. According to a list I got from H&W Machine Repair in Indiana, your Bridgeport was built in 1954. Going by the serial number.
@bloggermouth7 жыл бұрын
I started watching John when he was in his NYC apartment. He is a really smart dude. Loves to learn and to teach.
@travistate90363 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being so damn transparent with your findings!!
@tylertc17 жыл бұрын
AvE + NYC CNC = unstoppable forces
@spacehitchhiker42647 жыл бұрын
a few inches of stroke... phrasing BOOM! let's just make this guy one of the writers for Archer
@nnamrehck5 жыл бұрын
"It's for clamping small parts in your mill vise" - Guess he's experiencing shrinkage in that Canadian cold.
@TrikeRoadPoet7 жыл бұрын
Neat idea, fast change on the draw-bar, and all one handed.
@neliumAPG3 жыл бұрын
Preface -- AvE, I love your vidjeos! I know this is a 4 years old video, but I felt a comment was needed. The offset you were seeing on the chamfer of the threaded holes is due to the cut of the thread lead-in not being a concentric circle to the chamfer tool (i.e. spot drill). Threads will always appear to be off-center when they are actually perfect. Please keep the BOLTR series running, and your .. well .. you know .. in a vise!
@Cheesepuff7 жыл бұрын
The best thing about being a soon-to-be freshly-minted enginerd is that you can play along at home with your videos.
@leesteele45747 жыл бұрын
nycnc and Ave .. my top 2 video channels! Love them both.
@GregsGarage7 жыл бұрын
John is a kick ass dude. Thanks for the up close and personal on this one.
@WeTrudgeOn7 жыл бұрын
John went through several months of R&D on the drawbar puller, he talked to several other youtube machining gurus on the ones they were making or have made for advice/ideas on how to do it right. He went through several prototypes with bushings that tended to get uneven and get jammed when moving up and down. That's why he went to the recirculating ball bushings because they were longer and fixed the binding problem, the dual rate springs were all part of that fix. But I dunno, you can easily get two inch or three inch long bronze bushings that should do the same thing. John admits that ten yeas ago he didn't even know what a mill was, he's been traveling as long steep learning slope and one thing I can say without reservation, he is THE most impressive AutoCad wrangler I've ever seen anywhere, anytime, when he has a model he's working on he runs through commands and changes faster than a normal mortals eyes can move.
@JebJulian5 жыл бұрын
my absolute favorite video of yours. thank you
@imitt127 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean 1/4" NC, instead of NPT?
@CountDoucheula4 жыл бұрын
2:50
@TonyFleetwood7 жыл бұрын
its always a treat when uncle bumblefack is in town :)
@paulgrieger81824 жыл бұрын
An engineering saying, "Parts left out cost nothing and cause no service problems."
@devastator397 жыл бұрын
I made a similar plate for my mill, but I added slots on the sides for clamping to an angle plate. Also, the countersinks might be off center because they were done on a drill press?
@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz5 жыл бұрын
Flashbacks to when students would back the draw bar threads all the way out, then start wacking with a hammer, ever after we told them to only back it out 1 turn. I had to pull a hammer out of someones hands more than once. And the sound of collets hitting the floor......
@charles13797 жыл бұрын
I am impressed, how do you get those shavings on top of your mill head?
@tomthumb30854 жыл бұрын
Anything from John Saunders is going to be good value as he pays so much attention to detail and tolerance. Great piece of kit.
@leestons3 жыл бұрын
Did we watch the same video?
@meamjoe7 жыл бұрын
Not part of notifactor squad, but mein spidy senses tingled enough to check DUN CAUGHT YEH
@arduinoversusevil20257 жыл бұрын
Durn, I'd gotten away with it if it wasn't for that pesky wall crawler.
@AtimatikArmy7 жыл бұрын
On the chamfer off centering you speak of, just thinking out load, but maybe it's centered and where the spiral thread randomly breaks through it makes it appear to be off centered? And the off centering of the Harbor Freight impact, that is probably unavoidable because you are bolting it up to the side of it's casting... (dimensions are going to float around from piece to piece).
@shaung6387 жыл бұрын
I want a video on why the milton is the correct style of air tool connector.
@453tye65e65e65e657 жыл бұрын
In my experience the M (Milton) type air fitting is just the most common by far. I have know idea why but all the shops I have worked in use them.
@DrFiero7 жыл бұрын
"M" style seems to come stock (installed, whatever) on almost all tools. I even worked for a tool importer (JET equipment) for 10 years, and never figured out why! They work, for most low flow things. But really, the best coupler I've used (for things with 1/4NPT ports in them) is the Milton "V" Hi-Flo. A mated pair (of V's) will out flow an "M" by (300%?). Bonus is that you can still stick your "M" fittings you already have into the "V" on your hose! With a loss of flow, of course.
@shaung6387 жыл бұрын
Thats a good tip on the V coupler. Not sure what style of coupler I have around but I have been contemplating a replacement for a while now.
@robbarchard7 жыл бұрын
I was going to right the same question, but knew if I scrolled down I'd find it! We are on Milton M, but I find we get product with A type pre-installed half the time. I used to save the fittings, but now we get em' gone so as to not dick around later.
@jongrimm77676 жыл бұрын
Our job shop has always used Lincoln, as does the auto shop next door. They generally suck. Hard to find, expensive. There's resistance to change from mgmt (dad).
@rayjan79967 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. the thing with the lock washer: I also say always the same thing, especially if it used in combination with a regular washer, than the designed function does not work at all. AvE, keep up the good work.
@texasdeeslinglead24017 жыл бұрын
his channel is cool as heck , been watching it for awhile
@TiMmY37617 жыл бұрын
"what if I was some kind of weirdo" AVE dont kid yourself.
@gazjonze5 жыл бұрын
I live to hear "focus, you f..." 😂
@andrewsalton76707 жыл бұрын
Looks like the dude did a pretty solid job with the tool. Always room for improvement but 95% there.
@duh45727 жыл бұрын
All I got to say Bill about that plate is 1/ I am a metal finisher by trade ( I worked for a major car company in the VAP) 2/ The concentric arcs are beautiful to me. 3/ Thus whoever did it, cared. 4/ We call it a buffer - A grinder like tool with the flat disc either in glue (old school ... er pre 90's roughly) or velcro, to attach a disc of sandpaper and operated at 9000+ RPM. As usual, good vid mate. Edit: Oh man, I have a feeling a machine did it. We use to do it by going side to side while descending. Yeah fuck me I'm sure of it now!... I should have watched more than the first few minutes.
@Mr_Everyman7 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong here, but I think the butterfly impact is slightly off center due to the shape of the rear section of the tool itself being fixed to a perfectly flat surface but not being perfectly flat itself, you can clearly see the uneven Gap around the mating area and after it has been removed and sealed again it is even less accurate at being flat. glad to see that the screw holes have enough movement to adjust it, that was some good forward thinking.
@rafaellastracom64117 жыл бұрын
You are correct regarding the fasteners and furniture. It must be as simple as possible, using existing forces within the design. Packaging is very important. It´s about efficiency.
@calvindekoter21287 жыл бұрын
About the chamfers, perhaps they are uneven because the thread is present on one side of the hole and not the other- the hole appears to be off its own centerline because of the missing top thread.
@milldawgj95987 жыл бұрын
AVE you have been bestowed the highest honor I can bestow on a KZbinR!You have become the first choice for throne time entertainment. I hope realize the honor this is.
@qubitser7 жыл бұрын
3 out of 3. you are killing the weekend.
@DockterDoom7 жыл бұрын
"Flat as a pan of kuchen. "That's definitely a phrase I'm stealing.
@Syncubus7 жыл бұрын
Honest review with good, constructive criticism. Whether you like the person or not, blowing smoke up their ass helps nobody in a review, (though it may help get you a second date, if they're into that kind of thing).
@ernststravoblofeld7 жыл бұрын
Chinesium is my new favorite word. I've always been happy with a box wrench with a brass bar braised on the other end, to bang on the drawbar.
@Fieeeeeeeeee7 жыл бұрын
"Focus you F**K!" Gets me everytime.
@shanejones58857 жыл бұрын
I've built a few variations of the same set-up. I try to thread as much as possible, include the main side bars. It allows for interchangeable size bars with heli-coil inserts. Neat idea though.
@aaronshepard34647 жыл бұрын
the offset chamfer is probably due to the chamfering tool not dwelling long enough before retracting back out
@spacenracers48077 жыл бұрын
Hey! Fellow Canadian here! Love your channel. Pretty new to it, I think I started watching a week ago. Cool to see the review of John's stuff too! I'm a College student currently pursuing my Aerospace Engineering degree, but I've always loved machining and it's my fallback career choice. I learned to operate CNC stuff on my FRC team but that's getting off on a tangent. Just wanted to introduce myself and say I love your work. If you have any tips for me I'd love to hear it!
@anthonyc4177 жыл бұрын
That SMW logo was done with a tool most likely from Hutchinson, MN.
@jspmanufacturing86847 жыл бұрын
You could use leader pin bushings and core pins or ejector pins from injection mold supply place and eliminate those linear bearings
@nickgill87597 жыл бұрын
My aluminium mill bed is 650x450, and has 900, yes 900, M8 holes. That really took some time on the CNC mill with a rolltap. Super time saver - that and double sided tape!