Bon Musica Part 3 (Watch Me First!)

[@tricky58micky]

Awesome! I’ve literally just unboxed mine, looked at the instructions and thought “there must be a video”! I’d never have considered the variations and pitfalls you’ve outlined here. It looks like I have some work to do today. Thank you so much 🙏

[@danalain4126]

I’m 5ft3in in height. It’s good to see someone of the same size holding and demonstrating with a 4/4 violin and bow. Thank you so much for your videos.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hi Dan, yes I encourage my students to emulate violinists of their same body type and build. You can learn a lot about little things you have to do to compensate for certain body issues like a short pinky or a large hands or square shoulders etc. Keep up the good work!

[@danielgliege]

​@@RedDesertViolin❤

[@cigarnationwarriors3981]

You’re like a Mad Scientist. I love it. Helpful video. Thank you. William🎻

[@RedDesertViolin]

LOL....I sincerely take that as a compliment! Thank you!

[@vickielane6016]

Thanks for this tip. I have a Bonmusica shoulder rest that I have been adjusting several ways, but never thought about placing the top section at an angle. This is working much better for me now.

[@RedDesertViolin]

So glad it helped! It's the simple things! Wanna do me a favore, pretty please? Visit this link, and vote for Red Desert Violin. I"m a finalist in a contest and I need EVERY vote I can get! Please vote daily until February 8! THANK YOU! www.aweber.com/bigimpact.htm

[@HarvestRidgeHomestead]

I have had mine for years, it’s my favorite shoulder rest and has (in conjunction with better posture) alleviated my neck pain.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Excellent. I love mine too.

[@ChrisEbbrsen]

Thank you! Im comming off of a bareback kick with my two violins. I still have.my everest plastic shoulder rest; all i do is ball up a sock and tape it to one end. It works for me. Then i stick felt disks to my chin rest at the edge and cover with ace type bandage. Its cheep, effective and grips my chin well. The only thing i dont like is that it locks up my whole head and i feel like i have a cast on. But it is necessasary in order to have a graceful vibrato. Ive seen Ostrach play his violin almost completly on edge and would assume this is so he doesnt blind the fellow to his left. Thankyou for an amazing vidio. I will consider the Bonmusica if other methods fail. My dream shoulder rest is the Libero but its so expensive and i dont know what height to order. And theres the fact that no one in my area sells them so i can try one out for fit finsh and comfort! Its like having a beartrap around your neck! Thanks for showing the Bon Musica shoulder rest. I will be open minded about it and may consider it as time goes on. First I will try a chamois over the chin rest that may give the grip I need without a huge outlay. Bless you i wish i was near arizona so i could drop in and talk with you. Many thanks!😅

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hey there! I am very much in favor of rigging up ANYTHING that will work, as a temporary measure, as you learn what your needs are. But I will give you 2 bits of information that I hope will steer you in the right direction. Number 1) The quest for a good ergonomic setup STARTS with the CHINREST, and ends with a shoulder rest decision. So, FIRST you need to find the chinrest style that fits your jaw, and get the appropriate height. (the height needs to fill any space from the top of the violin to your jaw, with the violin sitting on your collarbone) Number 2) You want to avoid the feeling of EVER being locked in any way on violin, on any body part, but ESPECIALLY on the neck/head. It's just asking for an injury or soreness, or god forbid, surgery. So, I hope you can take that bit of info and continue your pursuit! And YES< be creative! I've had people use VELCRO before. (not my first choice....but hey....)

[@Robyn19fnq]

Thanks for another informative session Lora. I have a Bon Musica, but I never knew some of those points you've clarified. PS I've voted!

[@RedDesertViolin]

THANK YOU for voting, Robyn!!!

[@terryvaughn3179]

Hi... i just received my Bonmusica shoulder rest...i found your video and i think it is the gold standard for adjusting it...i am still adjusting it but i will say it is the best shoulder rest there is....should have purchased it first!!!!

[@RedDesertViolin]

I'm glad to hear this. Yes, it takes time to "dial it in", but the Bon Musica is SOOOOO versatile...it really is a great choice to start with. Good luck!

[@elisabethgont.152]

You are absolutely right! Unfortunately for me, I found your video only after trying the Bonmusica and what you describe, the gouging, happened on my rented viola 🙈🙈😱😱

[@RedDesertViolin]

Oh, horror of horrors! Well...join the club of musicians who have suffered the pain of damaging an instrument. It's part of the learning process.....and it happens to MANY people. (not all from the Bon Musica, just general damage from rookie mistakes) Now you can warn others!

[@juandenzer637]

Thank you so much for giving a detailed explanation of how well you can adjust the shoulder end. No matter what I try, my Kun keeps slipping off. Now I see I have shorter shoulders. I need to invest in a Bonmusica. Btw, I am learning so much from your videos. I am an absolute beginner, trying my best until I get to the point where I need private lessons.

[@loralynstaples5483]

Hi Juan, if you can get private lessons NOW, and if you can find a good teacher, I think EVERY beginner would benefit from private lessons. So if it is an option for you, I highly recommend that you go ahead and start. It makes a huge difference to establish good habits, and beginners usually do several things wrong that they are unaware of, and a second pair of eyes and ears really helps. BEST OF LUCK to you!

[@MsStarFoxxie]

I know this is an old video but was going crazy about my setup without spending even more money on chinrests because I’m built almost just like you with muscly sloping shoulders. I honey thought I was getting the wrong size or needed a different side clamping one. I switched to the wave models you reviewed but was sad my violin was slipping down when trying to play on the e and a strings. I’ve had my bon musica for about a year and didn’t even know about the screws on the backside, I thought they messed up on gluing the pad on it! Thanks sooo much you’ve made me, my violin, and wallet very happy! ❤️ 🎶 🎻

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks for taking the time to write! I'm so glad the video helped! I'm also extremely flattered you called my shoulders "muscly". I will be coasting on that one all week! ;-) Best of luck to you and your violin!

[@cigarnationwarriors3981]

I’ve been struggling to use my Bon. Your videos really helped. Plus, you’re funny at times 🎻👍👍

[@RedDesertViolin]

Glad it helped, Cigar Nation Warriors. Yeah....I have to try to not be too serious! That's boring!

[@gailvcrawford2476]

THANKYOU so much for your thoughtfulness and sharing your knowledge and experience- your demonstrations and explanations have helped me enormously and reassured me that it’s not ‘just me’ ! 🤗

[@RedDesertViolin]

HAHAHA nope, it's not just you!

[@danielgliege]

Thank you very much for your numerous professional training & expert guidances. Thankyou to infinity 😊 Appreciatively, Daniel

[@RedDesertViolin]

You are welcome to infinity, Daniel. Thanks for watching!

[@justinebaker6491]

Brilliant advice thank you so much. I've been struggling with my current shoulder rest and am definitely going to try a bonmusica. Some very helpful tips for us shorties :)

[@RedDesertViolin]

Bon Mus is a good starting point. It will help you achieve comfort. From there, you can dial it in further. Good luck!

[@DivaDeb1234]

I am still looking for proper position. I've got chronic pain in my left neck and shoulder. Oh my gosh somebody please help

[@gabrielb426]

So I bought one and obligatos and I regret nothing. Turns out my chinrest issue was a shoulder rest issue and I was committing at least two vital sins mentioned in your prior videos. You saved me hours, an unintended break from my obsession, a trip to a professional, back pain, and resolved my "S" hand. Thank you so much for keeping the other two up, they were invaluable.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Oh, Gabriel, thank you so much for this feedback! And I am SO very happy that you solved your problems so adeptly, and that I played a small role in it! Keep up the great work!

[@akschauer]

This video and the other two are so helpful! I tried a Bon Musica years ago and hated it, but it was in a shop and we didn't do many adjustments. I'm 5'5", but my arms are short and my shoulders are narrow. I may have to buy a Bon Musica and mess around with it.

[@RedDesertViolin]

I hope you got one, and I hope it is working for you. It's a GREAT starting point.....while you get your "sea legs". Good luck!

[@annakazantseva1008]

Thank you so much for your three videos on Bon Musica. I got mine as a gift and could not make heads or tails of it. It's large so when it's not well set up, it's really awkward. Your videos helped me so much, as I did end up using the "angling" of it - it made a huge different on my fairly narrow shoulder. Thank you!

[@artemi-music]

thanks a lot for your video, gives a big understanding on how thiese chest rests work.

[@DivaDeb1234]

The problem is when you say you can adapt it in so many ways as you need to know how to adapt it. I have no clue

[@emoonjb]

Love Love love your thorough explanation. Going to this SR for my daughter who has the similar type of the shoulder shape as yours.

[@RedDesertViolin]

She will love it. GIve it a good week to dial it in!

[@RedDesertViolin]

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[@dalemcgregor3925]

Great 3 videos! It helped me a lot with my Bon Musica shoulder rest fine tuning it to where it needed to be. Thank you so much. In terms of positioning the feet/claws on the violin, I use the varnished markings on the ribs of the violin as landmarks to position my shoulder rest claws consistently at the same spot. The natural varnished grain markings on the sides/ribs of the violin make it easy to do this if you study your particular violin's markings.

[@RedDesertViolin]

GREAT idea, Dale!

[@danielgliege]

My Chinese knockoff Shoulder Rest (Yinfente=$27) adjusts similarly to your instructions, Thankyou. However I continue to have posture & neck-sighting angle issues due to my total blindness left eye which causes me to view over the bridge of my nose from right eye only, therefore I need to make "alignment adjustments" moreso pointing scroll forward & tweaking my body. I'm curious if you've had left-eye-blind students & your possible compensating techniques? The bon musica actually sorta gets in way tho sorta holds onto forearm in front of elbow joint when I hold the fiddle in my forearm down towards my waist. As low as far as my lengthy right bowing wrist will reach. It adds stage presence, but so much disciplined posture😮 I believe in sharing all (good? Lol) things with my mentors. Thankyou very very much for all your critiques, extremely useful time after time. Signed: Pro Stage Musician ; Beginner +/- Fiddle-ist. Peace, Love, Joy, safety to you & your Loved Ones ( Gotta get back to your HOW TO PRACTICE EFFICIENTLY USING RHYTHMS ..& practice your LEARN VIBRATO technique.😊 My fingerboard wrist is still connected somewhat directly to my bowing arm, lol/Smile

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hey Daniel, I have the solution to your left eye blindness, or any blindness: PLAY EYES CLOSED. Seriously.....violin is SUCH a tactile/ear instrument.....you can feel and hear every nuance......eyes get in the way. ZERO professionals watch the violin or bow when they play......or very rarely. Some blind violinists and fiddlers are among the best. So, assume you believe me. Let's move to HOW: Find my video on "INtonation a Simple Approach", and also "Suzuki Tonalizations". This is your golden ticket to playing without your eyes.....because it teaches your ears to be sensitive to RINGY NOTES. Start simple: like, learn to just play your 3rd fingers, finding the ringy notes, NO PEEKING. And go from there. I promise you, with a little work, you will not need to look at all. Good luck!

[@iggyzorro2406]

Dear Red, you are a great teacher. I am an old beginner, and the tip you said about holding the bow parallel to the bridge by moving your arm and hand as if you're going to reach for something on a table is fantastic. It's helped me improve that aspect. not perfect yet, but getting there. The reason I'm putting this comment here is that I was constantly fighting with the violin and Kun shoulder rest but was never able to support the violin properly (that's for me - it's a good product too). And you can't work on step two if you can't get step one right - holding the instrument. I took your advice, bought the Bon Musica and am now able (with lots of tries and adjustments) to comfortably support it. I think I must have a short neck because I need a small pad on my collar bone to keep the back of the violin - under the end button - from cutting in. But it really solves the proper support problem wonderfully. Sorry for the length of this comment. Just wanted to thank you.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hi Iggy, I'm so glad to read of your victory with the Bon Musica! The fact you have to put a pad for your collarbone is a GOOD SIGN. that means your violin is riding nice and low, next to your body instead of being jacked up. I think you are on the right path! Good luck!

[@Jordenweiss]

Amazingly helpful video! I love my Bon Musica shoulder rest and have been struggling to get the right fit! Thank you so much especially for heads up on how to protect our violins from being scratched in back! What do you think about the new Kun 7, if it ever comes out?! Thanks for your informative videos!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Jorden, I just watched a video about Kun7. It looks very intriguing. I think it captures some of the advantages of the Bon Musica, but is less bulky, and safer for the violin. I would definitely give it a try.

[@michael_koski]

I am 5' in height. This has been an incredibly helpful video in adjusting my bonmusica shoulder rest to fit my 4/4 violin for my smaller frame. Thank you so much! -- Ana

[@RedDesertViolin]

Awesome! I'm so glad to know I helped a fellow shortie! (Hey, I prefer the term "fun-sized")

[@paddlepower888]

This week, I made a sling for my violin. The Bon Musica was hurting where it made contact with my clothing and no adjustments helped. I tried to play without a shoulder rest, but when downshifting to 1st position my thumb would pull the violin away. I made a ling that kept the violin close to my neck, kept it from sliding on my shoulder and kept the front from going more than 30 degrees off dead level. I found I could leverage the Wittner chin rest with my chin to change the angle of my violin. I don't stress with my head when I play. I can look around and the violin doesn't move. The Bon Musica will go to eBay for some lucky bidder. For the first time, I could play without the SR. Strange, huh?

[@RedDesertViolin]

I would love to see a picture of your sling. ([e-mail])

[@paddlepower888]

I thought you had too many cups of coffee, until I saw my playback speed was set to 1.5X. BTW, good advice and thanks for pointing out the additional bolt holes! Cheers!

[@RedDesertViolin]

LOL....I probably DID have too many cups of coffee anyway. YES...the bolt holes were a revelation when I found them! Cheers!

[@ysayee]

Quick question, what is the CHINREST model you are using in this video? Is it custom made? Thanks in advance

[@RedDesertViolin]

My chinrest in this video is a "STUBER". I advise you to ONLY buy one from Gary Frisch at chinrests.com. I promise you if you buy one from any other source, it will be a counterfeit and will not be the shape you were hoping for. REAL Stubers went extinct, so Gary and I took great pains to recreate the original shape. Good luck. I hope you like it as much as I love mine!

[@colinhesketh4710]

Hi Lora, greetings from the UK. What a laugh drilling holes and sawing bits off the rest? Have you bought a new bottle of glue just in case you need to put it all back!!!! I think we should get Bon-musica to go back to the drawing board and make the shoulder rest wider.

[@RedDesertViolin]

LOL Colin. No.....I just need to learn to LOOK UNDER THE FOAM before I start cutting things. (in another video I explain how to make the adjustments without power tools....or any tools!)

[@MrRickb04]

Hi Lora, 3 great videos on the Bonmusica rest. Sorry to see you drilled your own hole but that's ok, no one will hold that against you since you make such informative videos :-) One thing I wanted to point out to you about the screws on the rest... they are actually simple threaded rod which can be purchased at a hardware store. The long side can be made very long if needed by use of threaded rod however I see the problem with the short side and the swivel joint possibly gauging the back of your instrument. Not too much that can be done about the short side except to offer you some vitamins in hopes we can get you to grow 2"-3" and solve the problem that way. Anyway thanks again for all the great information and keep the videos coming! Thanks.

[@RedDesertViolin]

LOL...I just found this comment. Dont know how I missed it! Thanks for taking the time to add this helpful info! I'm afraid I'm full grown.....I'm growing backwards now! Take care Rick!

[@chriskelly9653]

Have you done a review of the kreddle chin rest if not could you do one please .

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hi Chris, I did an exhaustive review of the Kreddle. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXWxdoZjoJuLpqM

[@sii6531]

Thank you very much, you saved me sending it straight back... Bon musica aught to fund you for this video. ✨ 🙏 ✨

[@RedDesertFiddle]

I know, right? I'm glad it helped you. It was smart of you to search online for help. you can find ANYTHING on youtube!

[@danielgliege]

...of which not separating / disconnecting left wrist from bow arm is hampering my vibrato ability & progress 😢 😊

[@RedDesertViolin]

I had a student "air bow" while she did her vibrato.....to help her separate the two motions. Then, try "air vibrato" while playing long bows on open strings. I think that will be your ticket.

[@edwardmorris3453]

There's a staggering variety of sizes of Bon Musica out there. How does one decide which size to go with?

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hmmm....there should only be 4/4, 3/4, and maybe 1/2 as far as SIZE goes. If you play on a full size violin, DEFINITELY get the 4/4. If you play on a 3/4, get the 3/4.

[@edwardmorris3453]

@@RedDesertViolin When I look on Amazon, I get this: www.amazon.com/s?k=bon+musica+shoulder+rest&ref=nb_sb_noss 7/8, 1/16 and so on. It looks like definitely different products, even excluding the viola rests. Which one of these ones do you use?

[@noellehuling220]

@@edwardmorris3453 Anything other than a 4/4 is a smaller size for a child playing a smaller violin. If you aren't buying for a kid, get the 4/4 (which means full/adult sized.)

[@cmdviola]

I am actually having the same question but I play viola!! My viola is 16 3/8" and looks to me that the bonmusica size of 235mmm would be correct. However that is listed for a 16" viola and they ALSO offer a 240mm which they list for a 16 1/2" viola. I am leaning towards ordering the smaller one having measured my viola across that part of the back ... and thinking that if I want it to sit on the viola where it will be close to my neck, the viola is slightly smaller there. I have memories of my resonans shoulder pad crashing into my instrument, and really don't want the same problem, because of the legs being too wide.

[@brucejoseph8367]

Thanks very much for this information. I am learning violin and could not get past the first hurdle of how to keep the violin in position on my shoulder. I have a Wolfe rest but that doesn't work for me. So my dilemma was do I stay with the Wolfe and struggle on, or pay out a lot of money (too much for what it is) and buy the Bonmusica. But it is worth it, as after (luckily) coming across your video I now have a secure violin that I can confidently practice on.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Bruce, I am CONSTANTLY searching for a used Bon Musica on Ebay or Amazon, and they go SO FAST.....I suggest you get the Bon Musica, and if you don't like it, you can sell it for just a couple bucks less. I highly recommend it, because it can morph to fit ANY body type. Best of luck with it! Wanna do me a favore, pretty please? Visit this link, and vote for Red Desert Violin. I"m a finalist in a contest and I need EVERY vote I can get! Please vote daily until February 8! THANK YOU! www.aweber.com/bigimpact.htm

[@brucejoseph8367]

@@RedDesertViolin I'll Happily vote for you, good luck!!

[@drandrewtan]

Thanks for warning about the gouging bit. I too have a short neck and have wound the screw short on the shoulder side. Mine is a student violin so it doesn't matter too much if it's scratched but it's good to know nonetheless. I'll use a dremel to cut the screw shorter.

[@RedDesertViolin]

Yes, it's just a good habit to be careful regardless of what our violin is worth! Wanna do me a favore, pretty please? Visit this link, and vote for Red Desert Violin. I"m a finalist in a contest and I need EVERY vote I can get! Please vote daily until February 8! THANK YOU! www.aweber.com/bigimpact.htm

[@ingayin9127]

Thank you for the informative tips. Could you let me know if the 4/4 bonmusica shoulder rest can be adjusted for a 1/2 violin? Or I have to buy a 1/2 one? Thank you

[@llamallama1509]

I'm thinking of getting this because my current shoulder rest just isn't working for me at all, but it's so pricey!

[@alessiacargninoviolinist8678]

Thank you very much! It helps me a lot 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 greetings from Italy ❤

[@RedDesertViolin]

I'm so glad it helped you! Thanks for posting.

[@stepno]

Thank you for this wonderful video... Bought a nicely set-up pre-war German factory fiddle at a benefit auction for a late friend's family, figuring that I have played Irish and old-time tunes on the mandolin long enough to try making the transition. But the only shoulder rest my local music store had was a Kun, and it quickly convinced me I should have taken up bodybuilding 60 years ago to not be so narrow & slope shouldered, and hollow chested. Meanwhile, I'm old enough to have some possibly arthritis stiffness in my neck. Maybe too much time on this Smartphone. Lots of alternative ways of holding fiddles here in the Blue Ridge Mountains, from old mountaineers holding it in the crook of their arm (but they have bigger arms) to a woman who uses some sort of scarf looped around the body of the fiddle. I am just starting to pay more attention and figure things out. The two teachers I have gone to (one who grew up on the "oldtime" festival circuit, the other with an ivy league music performance Masters) were pretty much clueless about (or overwhelmed by) my physical problems holding the instrument and the bow, which is a whole other whining story. But I've been able to read music for 50 years, and still have fun finding melodies on a fretless fingerboard for the benefit of my living room furniture! Again, thank you for putting this video here, because it gives me a whole new burst of patience!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hey Bob, your sense of humor will carry you far! ;-) I had a male student with an incredibly hollow chest, thin, he shoulders were square, but the hollow chest was a surprisingly difficult hurdle. The BON MUSICA was the only solution we could find for him. I htink you are onto something....keep hunting! Let me know if I can help!

[@gailrivas762]

Really great vudeo

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thanks!

[@sansthegamer1720]

Thank you so much!!

[@RedDesertFiddle]

Are very welcome! Hope it helped.

[@alenash8386]

Thank you!

[@RedDesertFiddle]

My pleasure!

[@chriskelly9653]

Have you done a video on choosing the right gauge strings , heavy , medium or lite ? Just bought a set of thomastik dominant medium gauge .

[@RedDesertFiddle]

Chris, I have not! I always use medium. It would be interesting to know under what circumstances a person would use a different gauge. I'll see if I can get that answer.

[@chriskelly9653]

Red Desert Fiddle medium is what I am using too and have a set of Thomastik Dominant medium gauge on the way.

[@ethangill2477]

Chris try the fiddlerman strings you might like them they're cheaper

[@RedDesertViolin]

Chris, it occurred to me that I DO know what the different gauges are for. So, the THICKER gauge strings are more powerful, louder, but they are slower to respond, and they are a bit darker. Heavy gauge also adds to the total tension on the violin neck. (thin gauge is just the opposite of all the above). So, if you had a violin where your D string was weak, but you wanted to keep all your strings the same brand, you could try a heavy gauge D. Or, if your violin is super dark, or if you feel like it's inarticulate or slow to respond, you could try thin gauge strings, but honestly, if you had that problem, I would probably suggest a different brand of strings. But anyway, hopefully this info helps you understand the basic concept of gauges.

[@lekyleo9972]

Amazing video!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Thank you. Hope it helped!

[@cavidsamedov2974]

👍👍👍👍👍

[@loralynstaples5483]

Glad you liked it! Thank you!

[@soraiadrummond]

Going to set my one now. thanks a lot!

[@RedDesertViolin]

Hope you got it all set up!

[@soraiadrummond]

@@RedDesertViolin Thanks to you i did, dear Lora! I also sent your videos to Bon Musica so they could see how complex it can be when you have no idea how to do it. I was really disappointed with them. They dont provide much info about it, cos they think ist VERY SIMPLE AND OBVIOUS to set it up. hahaha

[@RedDesertFiddle]

@@soraiadrummond Glad you sent them to Bon Musica! Some companies really pay attention to this stuff, and they adapt to make their materials better for consumers. We'll see what BM does.

[@user-yishtabachshmo]

I am six foot four with broad shoulders. Can you make a video for people like me?

[@loralynstaples5483]

I am currently exploring this topic, and I'm asking my super tall colleagues for input. In the meantime, I would recommend that you find professional violinists with your build, and study them. You will learn a TON by watching and focusing on one thing at a time, like, bow elbow, bow hand, left hand, angle of the violin, etc. A couple names for you to start you out is Steven Moeckel (modern violinist, concertmaster of the Phoenix Symphony), and Leonid Kogan (Russian violinist, died in 1982, but there is plenty of video of him). Also Joseph Szigeti and Erick Friedman. But also, I noticed a lengthy thread on violinist.com about this topic. Try exploring there.....you will meet other tall people personally, and you get commiserate with them!

[@user-yishtabachshmo]

@@loralynstaples5483 Thank you so much for your prompt and informative reply. I will check out the sources you gave and wait to see if you come up with a video too. I have always found your videos the most helpful on KZbin for specific violin topics; short, succinct and to the point. Much appreciated for us amateur intermediates! I wrestled with my Bonamusica until it fitted my shoulder exactly but it still somehow allows the violin to slip away from me and I end up supporting with my left hand while playing. Thanks in advance. Adam

[@loralynstaples5483]

@@user-yishtabachshmo I you need to try a new chinrest!!!

[@loralynstaples5483]

@@user-yishtabachshmo You need to get a chinrest that has a "hook" feature....like my Stuber model which can be obtained now from Chinrests.com.

[@user-yishtabachshmo]

@@loralynstaples5483 You are right! I tried evening fixing the shoulder rest from slipping with Velcro and it still slips from under my chin. I'm going to have to phone Gary

[@paulfogarty7724]

I have the Kun and it works fine. I was interested in this as an oddity / invention. I was looking at some other Utubes about this device and there seems to be a lot of complaints about violin damage - scratching ect. I'm sure it must be a well designed item so I put those accidents down to people not adjusting / applying it correctly. As I say, my Kun works fine but I'm still interested in trying one of these.

[@RedDesertViolin]

It can't hurt to try it. You might love it! If not, you got your Kun!

[@paulfogarty7724]

@@RedDesertViolin I was in a " research neck rest's " mood last night. I saw another one called the Pirastro Korfker " ( probably spelled that wrong ) that's even more expensive. A lot of people comment on the price - like with the Bon, which suprises me as it's small change compaired to the price of the violin and bow themselves. The lady reviewing it was really smitten to the point where you'd think her last neck rest was constantly slipping and causing her phisical trauma. I'm sure it's very comfortable but I also think a lot of it is in her head too.

[@paulfogarty7724]

@@RedDesertViolin thank's for the reply btw.

[@frannybecker]

Hello Parabéns belíssimo canal ótimo vídeo 👍 super Saudações 🇧🇷 beijos com carinho 😘 Love 😍

[@BillnBen1]

Thanks for the extra screws. It's that end of the rest that's been causing me problems since I started.