Bonanza Crash Sulphur Creek Idaho

28 May 2021. Field report from on the scene. Husky adventures in Idaho.
I'll continue to be off line for awhile yet.
Home soon with lots of great video...jb.

[@rogerkearns8094]

Best wishes to pilot's wife.

[@phillyphil1513]

what a difference a DAY makes. notice the sheer tranquility and the ironic ABSENCE of barely any wind noise effecting JB's mic just 24hrs later (shades of Patey/Draco).

[@Mike7478F]

Yip gethomeitis syndrome!!

[@nbt3663]

We always second guess ourselves. Particularly when things change suddenly.

[@jamesmcdonald6047]

I saw a show about flying in Alaska. Pilot did search and recover operations, planes going down because of decision to fly in quickly worsening weather. He said he amazed how beautiful the weather be the day after the crash, perfect flying weather!!! He always believed if they waited one hour or one day, the outcome would have been a safe flight!!!

[@blackhd92]

Patey liked to hang off the prop everywhere he went, Patey had around 40 knt winds and 25 knt crosswind comp. Patey took pictures with a smile on his face with a Million + dollar aircraft wrecked behind him.Bet money he is self insured with a bond because no insurance company would touch him. He is a smart guy and a great builder, but a smart pilot.....Not so much.Some people just have more money than sense.

[@TakeDeadAim]

@@blackhd92 Yeah, it'll just be a matter of time until he stacks up that new build. If it doesn't fall apart while he's flying it....

[@easttexan2933]

Could have been so much worse. So thankful for no fatalities. Thanks for sharing.

[@purplerunner1715]

Wish his wife a full and speedy recovery.

[@behindthen0thing525]

You got a thing for her?

[@purplerunner1715]

@@behindthen0thing525 I don't even know the individual, same goes for your better half, if you have one that is. But if any of them would end up getting hurt in a situation like that. I'm pretty sure I would say the same thing.

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@purplerunner1715 thanks but stay away from my wife

[@behindthen0thing525]

@@purplerunner1715 quarter on the flight deck though.

[@phillee2814]

Can't argue with any pilot's decision to reject - he was there, we aren't. Whether he was wise to attempt it in the first place is a different question, and one I'm sure he will be agonising over. I hope his wife makes a fast and full recovery, and doesn't beat him up too hard over it. Every incident is a learning experience for us all.

[@Don.Challenger]

That's the benefit of our society: information and experience gets a wider distribution, teaching not just one but all, to the extent that they are each capable of greeting/accepting of that learning.

[@vanstry]

I believe he made the right decision. If the ditch hadn't been there, there probably wouldn't have even been any real damage. Sorry to hear that his wife was injured.

[@phillee2814]

@@Don.Challenger I was taught early in training to read GASIL* and learn from other's mistakes, so I would not have to learn from my own. *General Aviation Safety Information Leaflet, distributed by the CAA to all pilots in the UK as long as their address is up-to-date.

[@briant6333]

especially if you are willing to learn from others and do your best not to make your own, .... hope his wife makes a solid recovery

[@mervynsands3501]

Decisions, decisions, to call it right is always a chance, and hope you come out ok. Not a lot of options in this case once you opt to make the take off roll. Most importantly thoughs onboard made it out thankfully. Just leave it at that.

[@ronpurcell9984]

Glad everyone gets to have breakfast tomorrow.

[@igvc1876]

what if you don't eat breakfast?

[@willywayne5299]

Thanks Juan,always learning from these unfortunate events,the pilot is the only one who knows exactly what made him decide what to do,they lived so props to the pilot,they lived!

[@sw7366]

Juan, I so appreciate your Channel. In my years of flying a Cessna 150, I've landed and taken off from those one way downhill airports, but unfortunately, never really considered in advance what to do in case of an abort. Watching all these reports, I can understand how a lack of planning can make for a bad day.

[@trangoadvisory]

The best flights I've ever taken are the ones where I chose not to go. When I was getting my instrument rating my instructor had me take off and land in tailwinds on instruments. It was shocking what a difference a 10 knot tailwind would make in terms of takeoff and landing distance.

[@ronaldjennings8057]

You're right he should have waited until the crosswinds stop I'm glad everybody's okay thank you so much for the report God bless🙏👍🛩.

[@russell3380]

Glad they will both enjoy another breakfast.

[@jroar123]

Juan, I’ve got to hand it to you for giving your family, family’s family and beyond the gift of your presents for millennia to come. It’s also an aviation time capsule for pilots to learn from. Good work my friend!

[@francisschweitzer8431]

Wow.... glad that they are alive. The Mrs. Will have some recovery to do... but that’s nothing compared to other possibilities. I don’t fly... but I do drive a heavy truck and waiting out weather has saved me tons of hassle. Just yesterday in Wyoming at 4000’ asl it was hailing/raining/ snow so I parked it. One driver didn’t and later that night I drove past the recovery effort.

[@tomcoryell]

I have 1.5 million miles of WY driving under my belt. Good decision!

[@Mrfrenchdeux]

Good on you.

[@dennislaws5187]

Hope the wife is going to be ok.

[@generalrendar7290]

So loss of control, personal minimums/level of proficiency, aeronautical decision making, get-there-it-is level of accident. It's always difficult to judge the constantly moving target of proficiency with changing conditions, many times we get away with making bad decisions until the day that we don't. Glad that everyone survived.

[@geofiggy]

I hope his wife's ok JB. Thanks for this update. Take care and fly safe. 🖖🏽🤟🏽

[@gambler6517]

Juan, Thank you for your service. You are the 1% we pilots for sure are thankful to support.

[@2Phast4Rocket]

Thanks for the update. The lesson for me from seeing this accident is to pack enough for an overnighter camping in case the wind or weather doesn't cooperate.

[@mountainmama1951]

Whenever we flew anywhere in our Cessna 210, we packed camping gear & provisions. Some of our best flying memories are of camping under the wing.

[@depotdan4654]

Juan, thanks for all you do.

[@nathangreer8219]

MYSTERY SOLVED! I live under the downwind leg at KMAN (Nampa ID). This spring on numerous occasions, we've heard the "chugga chugga" of a radial engine and rush out to see what local warbird is landing (WW2 air museum on field). Instead of the usual T-6 or Stearman, a strange, massive green twin tail bush plane has been overhead! Very glad to hear they are OK! In the end, that IS what matters Welcome back to Idaho, Juan!

[@tomcoryell]

MH 1521!

[@573998]

I learned to fly in the Rockies and if it is after 10am you might just be staying another day

[@generalrendar7290]

density altitude? Winds? or both? I've mostly done my flying east of the Mississippi so I don't have much exp.

[@jsullivan05]

@@generalrendar7290 Both, especially in the summer.

[@CorrectContrarian]

I fly out of BJC. Does that apply lol?

[@v1_rotate638]

@@CorrectContrarian No lol

[@danielgoodson8155]

Agreed. IMHO Bonanzas give unwarranted performance confidence as well. Have upset many owners over the years (making them drive passengers and baggage to larger and lower airports). It’s a tough decision when conditions change and you have to accept you will be staying the night or repositioning (and you need the income from the owner you provide pilot services to). Best to make the decision based on the POH and local knowledge before you even attempt technical airports such as this. Wishing his wife a speedy recovery.

[@d.cypher2920]

Another great video! I have never even flown yet, but somehow I find myself watching a lot of these videos. 😂 😎🇺🇸

[@TheBS80]

Best wishes to the pilot and passenger. But, wow, this place looks fantastic! Must be one of the most beautiful places in the whole U.S.!

[@zidoocfi]

I always have mixed feelings when I see a rejected takeoff resulting in damage and injury. Without commenting on whether the takeoff should have been attempted or on whether the rejection decision was made too late, it's still true that SOMETIMES it is better to reject late than to not reject at all. Better to hit things while on the ground at less than flying speed than to hit things at treetop level and at flying speed.

[@RaysDad]

When the A36 pilot saw he was being blown towards those trees and steep terrain he probably didn't want to be flying anymore. With 20/20 hindsight it looks like he had room to remain airborne and pick up airspeed. But it's a split-second decision.

[@onemoremisfit]

Looks like sometimes the pilot has a choice between wrecking the airplane and hopefully walking away on one hand, or losing it all on the other hand, no damage free options to choose from.

[@bobbertee5945]

@@RaysDad Thought the same thing but GoPro cameras are a little misleading.... "Objects in view, may be closer than they appear"

[@ronboe6325]

Tough call from the arm chair; but I'm inclined to favor the decision to reject the takeoff vs. ignoring facts and going for it. Sounds like they should have just had another cup of coffee instead.

[@RaysDad]

@@ronboe6325 Sitting around drinking coffee and shooting the breeze until the weather lets up sounds like the best idea yet.

[@gettinghosed]

Any mountain flying can be tricky. I've landed at SC many times as well as Indian creek, Johnson Creek etc. I always carry a change of clothes, sleeping bag, meds, food, water etc. so come time for departure, if it isn't right, spend the night. Glad this wasn't worse.

[@danielsexton467]

Everytime I watch you I learn something. Prayers for a fast recovery.

[@rob737700]

Great report from the field, sir. Scott Perdue is our resident Bonanza expert, hope he also adds to the investigation.

[@kenhurley4441]

I got to fly in the back seat of a 172 while Bob (the instructor) was teaching people to fly. He always told me,,,, you can't pull over and pop the hood to see what's wrong with the engine and you don't always have to get where you're going. Great advice Juan,,,,, they (hind-sight) don't always have to take-off!

[@nhwilkinosn]

Hey Juan, i really appreciate all the effort you go to to investigate these crashes. If you get the opportunity, I'd like to see your take on a fatal crash that happened 5/29/21 near Eden Utah, that was a training 172 S model.

[@stevej8408]

I had just finished reading the news story on that single engine plane crash near Eden, Utah when I came across your comment. Yeah I hope Juan can look into this one. You only get a small amount of info out of the Reg: news.

[@nhwilkinosn]

@@stevej8408 yep. I actually attend the school that the plane belonged to, just in another state. It's actually a really really sad story, so i hope it gets covered.

[@donr2670]

Tailwind - hot heavy little airplane - patience friend, patience! Truer words never spoken. Juan offers up some real nuggets of wisdom if anyone wants to listen, ;-)

[@boilermaker7754]

Thanks Juan, everytime you report on one of these, I learn something. Other's mistakes are unfortunate and sometime tragic, but give us pilots something to think hard about and hopefully not repeat.

[@crfdln]

A few points I think you should mention, Juan: Sulfur Creek is at 5,835' elevation, so plane aerodynamic surfaces (including prop) are not going to be as effective as at sea level. A good rule to use is, "If you haven't reached 71% of rotation speed by the time you're half way down the runway, abort the takeoff -- you won't make it." This rule works at any elevation, upwind or downwind takeoffs, any density altitude, and regardless of the runway surface. In mountain flying I usually walk off the runway and mark half way with a branch sticking in the ground that I can see on takeoff roll. Best here to use a short field--soft field departure technique. Also mountain flying is no time to have topped off tanks. Your plane will not have to struggle to gain altitude. My 2 cents. Recommended reading: Sparky Imeson's MOUNTAIN FLYING BIBLE.

[@GenJackOneill]

i remember flying in with my dad to get breakfast as a kid, that place sure has changed from what i remember! I with the wife a speedy recovery!

[@chuckcampbell3927]

Another on the spot report. CPT. Juan you really get around. Beautiful location. If you have enough time please tell me what is the length of that strip. Is there a great restaurant there perhaps?? Cheers 🛫🛬📖

[@larrybe2900]

He mentioned the length.

[@blancolirio]

More detailed videos of landing at these airstrips soon...

[@sarahalbers5555]

Beautiful area, ugly crash. Hope the wife heals quickly. I had a broken vertebrae in my neck after being rear-ended in a car accident, I did recover. But it takes time.

[@josephbuckley1574]

Juan, don't go away yet! Any insight into the Cessna Citation crash in Smyrna, TN????

[@bowdoin5063]

Thanks Juan for another video to keep GA safe

[@Mike7478F]

Oh gosh. Under comp with right rudder from the get go. Glad folk.not too serious hurt. Can fix it. Thanks for sharing your adventures with us.

[@michaeltrboyevich7854]

I heard of another one out on the West Fork of the Bitterroot , in Southwest Montana today . I will have an update soon . Thanks for all you do Buddy !!!

[@charlesv3962]

Happy that they’re alive! Mr. Brown you answered my questions, as I would’ve, and that is to have waited it out for the winds to calm down, I thoroughly enjoy your channel, however I don’t like seeing these things happen.

[@carbonking53]

Interested in your take on the Citation crash on 29 May from Smyrna TN with pilot/actor Joe Lara at the controls. All seven souls lost....RIP

[@wokeupandsmellthecoffee214]

Speedy recovery to the pilots wife from the uk 💐 And thank you Juan for another excellent report and your expertise advice.

[@Highrider_Phil_C]

I have to agree with the pilot, based on the wheel marks I don't think he felt he was high enough to continue and seeing some trees coming up fast putting it down was a smart decision, Prop's to the pilot.

[@clydeacor1911]

Just to the North of Stanley. Absolutely beautiful, I grew up not even 100 miles from there.

[@ricknash3055]

A gusty tailwind would be very difficult to guage with a one-direction airstrip. Not something everyone has practiced many takeoffs under such conditions.

[@ah244895]

Are you just going to be at every accident scene now? You are really upping your game 😂

[@Nord3202]

You should do a detailed flight test & history of that cool French MH1521 Broussard. Broussard is French for Bush Pilot. Be nice to see a video from inside the plane.

[@bobspreng611]

Excellent report, can you cover the crash near Nashville TN yesterday if you have any information?

[@BadOldBuzzard]

Thanks for another informative video. Glad there were no fatalities! Thought you might like to know that the Husky A1 is coming to MSFS2020 in the not too distant future. Don't recall the developer.

[@nancychace8619]

This hits home for me for a couple of reasons. My Citabria groundloop was kind of similar circumstances. There was a storm coming in and the winds had changed. My usual pattern was disrupted and I had to reject my takeoff with impending trees in the way. I was lucky, nothing was hurt. Another time my mom and I were in her car driving to, where else? Idaho. She fell asleep at the wheel at 4AM and we skipped out across the desert at about 55 or 60, hit a big drainage ditch and launched the car! She wound up with a fractured vertebre as well. I'm not clear about how/when it's acceptable to land or take off with a tail wind. Wasn't part of my basic lesson book. Will have to watch this again. Thanks for your report. Sorry for the accident. If physical therapy is not offered his wife later on, make sure they ask about it.

[@lex1945]

Another crash? Just came from vasaviation with the cessna citation crash....Bad day today!

[@lawsonhollenbaugh3626]

GLAD TO HEAR THEY SRE GOING TO BE ALRIGHT, GOD BLESS THEM.! 😎❤️

[@tscott6843]

Expensive lesson. Thankful both occupants survived. I’m curious how many pilots calculate a V1 for this kind of uncommon takeoff. He was clearly beyond any reasonable V1. Maybe private pilots don’t routinely think about V1 or they just have speed in mind as V1 for most circumstances. That will keep you alive at most airports because there’s plenty of room. V1 should always be established when using this kind of runway. High density altitude and one-way mandate creating a tailwind takeoff are a recipe for, well, trying to abort a landing well beyond safe limits. I bet there’s lots of pilots who have never taken off with a tailwind. I don’t recall much emphasis on V1 when I got my license many years ago. Thanks for covering this kind of mishap. Your episodes should be mandatory content for new (and old) pilots.

[@charlescarvalhosr.5846]

Mark Rahim I once had a situation where my left feet got stuck between the brakes and the rudder peddle causing me to almost runoff the runway after landing. Luckily I was able to control the aircraft. When I did my checks as to why that had happened, it turned out to be that the shoes I wear that day had a very smooth and slippery sole. If that incident was a rejected takeoff, it may well be a similar situation. Trying to get your feet unstuck at that time while trying to control right rudder can be difficult.

[@nappozulp4199]

Great explanation. Similar situation at Carlisle Airport in Pennsylvania last fall. I was going to nearby Lancaster to pick up my new Bristell and another pilot in a Bristell was blown into the trees by crosswind gust. Best to wait it out. Leave early or in the evening particularly in a 1300 pound aircraft.

[@zenjoe5226]

Thanks for the report. Sad deal. A whole new meaning to the term "ditching" an aircraft. Hope they have a speedy recovery and their insurance doesn't increase too much.

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

G,day Juan (Blancolirio channel) from Sydney Australia. * Is there a wind sock; only being a (one-way) RWY. * the perception that there is secondary grass strip parallel? * I'll say a prayer for a speedy recovery. 🌏🇭🇲

[@hamishdavidson3368]

Ouch! That engine separation is nasty. The density altitude there for elev 5800' say around 14 deg celsius gives a 6800' density altitude. So not too bad but with tailwinds probably paint yourself into a corner. Wait it out have another coffee have some lunch go for a bush walk. Relax don't feel pressured. Get home it-is must be repelled and if in doubt phone a friend or mentor. Good video Juan!👍

[@ccpperrett7522]

Thank you Juan for this report. I'd say any landing you walk away from is a good one. Let the insurance take care of the plane and fly another day. So happy only minor injuries for the wife.

[@annemacleod1421]

Thoughts are with his wife. Seeing it coming at you is no cheery thing. Xx from New Zealand 🇳🇿🇳🇿🐑🐑

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

Glad everybody survived. That was a really pretty Bonanza

[@tripodcatz5532]

Wait it out for one day and live for many more days. ;) Always the best advice for mountain strips like this. I've slept on more than one FBO lobby couch for the night waiting out the weather.

[@davidbaldwin1591]

This is excellent video commentary, that only a skilled pilot can cover properly.

[@denault3985]

Beautiful area, shame about the crash! Btw, using a new format (21x9)?

[@turnbank3492]

Tuff weekend in avation by the looks of it.

[@quadsman11]

Thanks for your early report Juan ! You had mentioned that the pilot was fine, however, you had reported that his wife has suffered a broken vertebrae ! I am spinal cord injured myself Juan, so I have a personal interest in her level of injury if possible ! While not all spinal cord injures result in paralysis, I am paralyzed from my shoulders down, as the result of a C5, C6 fracture. If you might happen to know Juan, and if there is anything I can do to be of any assistance to them, please let me know ! Thanks again Juan !

[@donalddodson7365]

WOW! You and. LT. Pete just "flew" into this field virtually, didn' you? I think you had talked about one way in and one way out. Sorry for the rejected take off, praying for full recovery of injured person. QUESTION: How does this aircraft leave? In Vietnam they would have sent a Chinook to lift and carry it back.

[@w13rdguy]

Looks like buddy did mostly good, maybe couldn't see the ditch(or, at least, how deep it goes). God help a full recovery, and back in the saddle, soon!🙏.

[@jamesgorman5241]

That's some cracking scenery.

[@CC-te5zf]

Prayers for her full recovery. That’s a tricky runway.

[@dktice7011]

I live not far from there and I have to say the winds here in Idaho have been nuts!

[@stephenrickstrew7237]

Love those twin vertical stabilizers on that Brossard ... Have you every flown an ercoupe and what are your thoughts on it ...?

[@jwb2814]

Thing was gorgeous.

[@skyking228]

Any take off you can walk/roll away from... Looks like a great place to ride horses too. Thanks!

[@badlandskid]

That’s the brand new engine right there... That the insurance company owns.

[@luckyhanger1326]

heartbreaking! Glad everyone is OK.

[@onemoremisfit]

When Juan described the strip as one way, my first thought was what he said toward the end, which is basically you can't land there unless you have very flexible plans about when you can leave because you might have to wait out unfavorable winds.

[@jackshannon7977]

It's typical to encounter tail winds departing down hill in the afternoon from high altitude strips. The sun heats the prairies below and creates a low to pull cooler mountain air down the valleys.

[@MichaelLloyd]

"wait out the wind" It's easy to second guess by I think I'd make that choice.

[@maximfdrv]

Vas aviation just posted video with Citation lost. I'm waiting for Juan's opinion. Thanks for the video.

[@GarrettCannon]

This

[@seanmcerlean]

Thank goodness they both survived.

[@kevinstone9638]

Once again thank you for your insights. It helps us new pilots and student pilots become better at good decision making. Please keep these coming. I appreciate all that you and others like you do. I am a returning student pilot and beginning my training again after several years away due to bad instructors who were more interested in time building than actually teaching. Thank you for inspiring me everyday.

[@robinmyman]

What a shame…glad they survived.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

Man, that sucks - brand new engine. What a gut-punch. At least everyone somewhat walked away - that's about as good an outcome as can be. Bent metal can be fixed. Anyway, continue having fun out there, Juan! Beautiful area - been hearing about it, and seeing pictures and video for years. I need to get out there some day.

[@Starboatbuilder]

Hi Great video - would have been good to have started the video with a flight review of the site from the air. Looks very beautiful country side. Sorry for the accident

[@kfleming]

Was the aircraft turebonormalized? Tip tanks are a common addition with turbos and it appears that the aircraft has them. Any idea how much fuel on board? Have flown our F33-A a lot at higher elevations and gross weight makes a huge difference in performance. 3300' runway is pretty marginal for a 5800' elevation. Any ideas on temperature for departure? DA was probably significantly above field elevation. Glad they both made it out mostly safely. This also reinforces why better shoulder harnesses can make a big difference- keeps the pilot and copilot away from the panel in a sudden stop. Thanks, Juan

[@Rodhern]

If you use about half the runway length to accelerate and about half to stop again, then it stands to reason imo that higher DA and lower engine performance actually is comparatively 'beneficial' to your rejected take-off; your speeds will be slower throughout. I do understand your point that a longer runway might have negated the need to reject the take-off in the first place. My point is that the halfway point plan is not a bad plan in itself - bad luck may have been the overwhelming factor here (?).

[@vermin1970]

I was a low time pilot taking off from a private grass strip. Spectators reported wind picking up significantly as I lifted off, I felt that in the plane too, with the left wing suddenly lifting on me. I hadn't much experience in winds and this caught me by surprise. I was able to correct but not before I was blown off course straight towards a huge tree. I made an attempt tp get back over the runway but was barely able to fight the wind, thought about putting it back down, but would have wheeled straight into that tree for sure, so I banked it hard with the wind to the right, cleared the tree and was able to level out and clear the line of trees off to the side. My flight instructor was watching and gave me kudos for my quick thinking. I told him he had a lovely tree, but maybe it shouldn't be right next to his runway lol.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

My old boss used to say "Every landing in a glider is a forced landing, if you're unlucky some landings in powered aircraft are forced landings but there's no such thing as a forced takeoff". Sounds like destination fever might have been a big factor in this accident. I hope all recover.

[@zenithrandles4169]

Prayers for the mans wife. Hopefully she has a speedy recovery.

[@tomcoryell]

Max Holste Broussard! My buddy has one. Better a rejected takeoff than 2 deceased. I hope his wife recovers okay. That has to be incredibly painful. Hey Juan, who is flying the big French STOL monster? You said someone named Jeff? Just curious. You don’t see them all that often.

[@flybyairplane3528]

JUAN, Hi, &thanks for basic report, hope the pilots wife gets out of hospital ok, having given field elevation/ length & conditions, I’ll NOT COMMENT , but really sorry to see the condition of the aircraft , write off ! ANDOVER AEROFLEX, in NJ, has water on BOTH ENDS, TRANSMISSION LINES SOUTH SHORT RUNWAY , claimed several into water, I had my log book signed, got back &took off, BUT the WIND DID A 180 ^ on me without noticing , flying a C150, with a good TAILWIND , & YES I DID WET MYSELF, as it was THAT SCARY ! Blue skies to ya Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Amehdion]

We have a saying in Idaho; "The weather changes every 15 minutes." It can go from strong straight line winds, to rainy, to snowing, and full circle back to sunny and calm all within a half hour. Gotta take it seriously even if you aren't a pilot.

[@hotttt28]

heres hoping the wife’s injuries are remedied quickly and there are no longterm consequences .

[@jameshickman5299]

Greetings, Is that an MH.1521 Broussard? I assumed it was a Beaver, until I saw the twin tails. Let’s be careful out there.

[@tomcoryell]

Yes

[@Saltlick11]

Excellent video briefing as we enter hot high season.

[@arthouston7361]

No dying...that's a pretty good outcome. Here is how I handled a similar situation for a crosswind takeoff. I was an instructor who had just dropped off a friend at Willaimsport. Yoke turned all the way to the wind side, held forward to keep the plane on the ground. It was a Cherokee 181. I held it down past rotation speed by about 10 or 15 mph. I wanted to make sure that once I "un-stuck" the aircraft, it was definitely going to stay airborne. As I let it come off, I immediately turned toward a good crab angle into the wind to stay above the runway, and kept that angle until I was clear of all potential obstacles. When I landed at the destination airport (KRDG) 90 minutes later (56 mph ground speed) that wind was right down the 18 runway. It was so strong that my ground speed on touchdown was maybe 11 mph...and I coasted to the first turnoff. If you want to try this technique, I strongly recommend you do it with a proficient instructor who can help you in case it goes haywire. A new engine is a terrible thing to mangle, and a broken vertebrae is something you want to avoid.

[@Adam-yc5vy]

Are you going to make a video on that unfortunate Tennessee crash

[@gtr1952]

They are both alive, that is the #1 most important thing. I hope the wife does well!. I broke my back twice and it can be a long hard road to recovery. May God Bless. JMHO --gary

[@saintsi6997]

Is that Dan I can see in the distance behind the tree?

[@bernardc2553]

Jaun So it was, ,a tailwind? Curious what the winds were @ the time, Not judging,Mtns can come with WTH surprises outta No-where My best to the both of them..

[@maryhines322]

A little bit of wind can make a lot of turbulence in hill country, unpredictable wind shifts too. Talking to a Learjet charter operator based in ski country Colorado, I asked what their wind limit was, and they said they cancel the trip if the wind is 10 kts or more from any direction. You never have to go.

[@Wild_Bill57]

Things could have been worse, insurance company bought the aircraft, hope the mrs. makes a quick recovery. Can’t/won’t judge the decision to either attempt or abort the takeoff. Don’t know what exactly what the conditions were at decision time. It’s tempting to do so, but it’s not fair. Pilot will probably do enough of that on his own.

[@pittss2c601]

It was stupid of that pilot to fly into that runway. High elevation, short runway with a very heavy airplane. That's just stupid. Too much risk for both of them. The pilot is from Massachusetts. He probably has limited experience flying at high elevation airports.

[@TyphoonVstrom]

@@pittss2c601 That's a big statement. Bo's have quite impressive short field performance for what they are, and only two up in one means performance to spare. They also do quite nicely on unpaved runways.

[@pittss2c601]

@@TyphoonVstrom with an empty weight over 2,500 lbs and a wing loading of over 20 lb per square foot they make for a fantastic high elevation STOL airplane......Not

[@dirtcurt1]

@@pittss2c601 My D35 Ramps at 2750. She would have no problem other than the V-Tail has rudder limitations at slow speeds(cross wind). But it gets going pretty quick. You still need to watch the ruddervator trade off going slow with heavy power settings.

[@Wild_Bill57]

@@pittss2c601 wind gusts seem to be the culprit. How did the field length have anything to do with the crash?