We did our 40x60 pole barn floor without the wall metal on. Had the roof on. We did 12w 13ft tall doors so concrete trucks could drive right in and chute it. No radiant heat plumbing to worry about. Nice and easy to finish edges from outside while power trowel does the rest. Nice video
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Thanks it is so much easier.
@vincentmeyers93653 жыл бұрын
Professionals always make the really hard jobs look easy. You guys are awesome!
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks pal.
@jamescarson91182 жыл бұрын
Love the banter! Great crew
@sethheath95683 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Glad to see a crew that has fun working together.
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Seth. We do enjoy this work.
@moman0166 Жыл бұрын
This is exactly how we pored my floor for my two story shed floor with a big mud drain for my Snap On Tool Truck with plenty of storage for extra tool boxes plus I fixed my walls to be waterproof so I could wash my truck in the winter. When my wife came in with her storage stuff I pointed to the second floor.
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like an awesome shop
@6582rg Жыл бұрын
You guys really do incredible work. My back hurts watching it.
@bobbygene827410 ай бұрын
You didn't pull up the reinforcing wire? Why.
@bondobuilt38610 ай бұрын
Because it is just to hold the tubing down. The tubing will get damaged if you pull it up. We put fibers in for reinforcement.
@jimwesselman3 жыл бұрын
That is going to be a sweet workshop, thank you for sharing!
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim
@kennyminde7822 жыл бұрын
We build pole barns in central New York, I always pour before the steel goes on,saves a lot of work like you said
@1UTUBEUSERNAME3 жыл бұрын
I like how you get excited when the truck shows up lol.
@buelowexcavating2 жыл бұрын
Good information. It is important to have all the trades involved in a project before it starts. I built my first new home in 1978, (I thought I knew what i was doing). Did a lot of work myself, but subbed out the HVAC, plumbing and electrical. The heating guy said he had to come in first, and I believed him. The house was a rectangle, he put the furnace a few feet from the basement wall and ran the heat and return ducts a few inches apart from one end of the hose to the other. The plumber was very unhappy and I had to pay more. The heating guy had run the ducts under the toilet and other fixtures. Now when I build I have all the trades people come about the same time for an estimate or bid. I then have them get each others phone numbers and tell them to communicate with each other on areas of concern.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Its great when we each think of what the next guy needs to do but I also build houses and restore them so Im not just a concrete guy. Thanks for sharing.
@buelowexcavating2 жыл бұрын
You are not "just a concrete guy". You are "The Concrete Guy".
@genefogarty53952 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 Too bad you're not closer to Little Falls, I'd ask you for a job, lol.
@trevormorgan66112 жыл бұрын
Here in the UK, its quite common to use a pan, { which just clips to the blades ] for the first pass. It makes flattening any bull float marks a lot easier, as you can get on the concrete a little earlier, without the risk of digging in. It also helps settle the stones and brings fat to the surface like a wooden, or plastic float does. I have not seen anyone in the states using one, are they common over there, or not used?
@intencityfan11 ай бұрын
what would be a ball park estimate cost for this? is it like 20 grand? ?
@bondobuilt38611 ай бұрын
Your probably not far off
@GRUBB-MUDD3 жыл бұрын
_GOOD JOB BIG BISKET _ don't drip water on it! Effervescence! Nice work, BTW great job explaining everything. You hit every point down to the cleaning the blades b4 your last 2 passes
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy I try to explain it all.
@davidpristas39882 жыл бұрын
I've done it like that before makes life easier to finish
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
It sure does David.
@bryanspriggs42903 жыл бұрын
Love the quick pitch handle on the power trowel
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Yes that's a game changer
@jackwillie27293 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 left the concrete work 35 yrs ago, was 32 yrs old and that quick pitch handle has to be sweet, almost 70 but when things go wrong a good concrete team is what you need to turn things around and get a good job ...
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
@@jackwillie2729 thanks Jack. We do have some sweet tools to make life easier then when you did it I'm sure it was harder back then. I know it was for me and I'm 51. Lol 😂
@brettblack70492 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 harder, that's right as its still back breaking work, and that coming from a guy who like hard physical labor(I'm 51 also :). Hope to pour my 32x48 with two 12x48 lean to's in the spring. I also plan to pour with the siding off so I can get right into the lean to's. The main unfortunately will be a bit more work because I only have 12' sidewalls, maybe your culvert trick, or maybe farm it out, we'll see. I've considered pouring the main in 3 sections 10.5' on the outside and then 11' in the middle, doing it in three separate pours as I'm not a concrete guy and don't have a lot of help. Any thoughts appreciated 😃. Have a great week.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
@@brettblack7049 Hi there is nothing wrong with breaking a slab down into sizes that you can handle. I still do that if I can't get enough help.
@d.i.whynot4843 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! There’s so much to concrete- thanks for educating us.
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
You bet. Glad to help.
@josephsmith78492 ай бұрын
Nice Job Bondo n Crew🤙🔥🇺🇸
@johnguice7163 жыл бұрын
Another good job
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@edstevens93573 жыл бұрын
Wish that barn was in my yard. Nice job as always
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed
@polarman11192 жыл бұрын
Nice !!!! Commentary reminds of Red Green...
@edpoints11273 жыл бұрын
We always put air pressure (test) with guages on each heat zone when we pour. If there's a puncture or leak in any line while pouring, there won't ever be a better or easier time to find out and repair it
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Yes some do that. We have never punctured a tube. They are very durable. Its easier to kink them then to puncture them.
@johnhogan38102 жыл бұрын
The pressure saved my ass. One of the guys did something to a hose. I was able to see it right away and dig it out as soon as it would hold me. I just dug out a 6 by 18 inch trench around the bad spot. Shoved in some rebar to hold the patch. We did the repair the next day. I WILL NEVER POUR WITHOUT PRESSURE IN THE LINES. Why would you risk it. You have to pressure test it before you pour (unless your an idiot). Just leave the pressure test run till after the pour.
@pjfan173 Жыл бұрын
I’ve just decided to build a 40x60 poll barn. It’s awesome that guys like you have posted all these videos, so a newbie like me can see the process. Do you have any suggestions on how to find the cement crew like yours?
@davidrobins40252 жыл бұрын
Nice job on this pour. You have a good team who knows what they are doing. I missed hearing the "bleeps" where they should have been.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. I'll try better on the bleeps lol
@darylstimmel68452 жыл бұрын
Looks great guys!!! A GREAT finisher always is one handed and a cool beverage in the other for that super smoooooth job..
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Ya exactly Daryl. A true pro. LOL
@jamesrussell68703 жыл бұрын
Done playing this game!! Pour the slab 1st & then build of it. Better for everyone!!
@elbuggo2 жыл бұрын
Self evident, actually.
@SegoMan Жыл бұрын
Depending on the county you may be taxed differently, around her it shed inspection prior to floor poor
@SegoMan Жыл бұрын
Some counties require the barn to be finished & inspected prior to the floor pour or it will be taxed differently.
@khavafis2 жыл бұрын
You just answered the question on my mind: how is it that the wire mesh is sitting on the foam insulation? I guess is a good trade off.
@richardstockwell96373 жыл бұрын
The last 3 barns we did they came out of the ground with pressure treated about 6 foot and then we poured the floor then after they built the building using a staggered joint and using ruff cut lumber from there up saved us time and them money on 20 foot pt 6x6 the builder sed it was easier to work on a concrete then dirt
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Ill bet it was way easier for the builder.
@buelowexcavating2 жыл бұрын
I wish I could cancel the rain :) Good information as always. My wife even watched it! I could never understand why you needed insulation under the in floor heat. Doesn't heat rise? Two new houses were built near each other by the same home owner. The first one had 2" of foam under the slab, he lived in it for a few years and sold it. He tracked his expenses very well. The second one he built was with no insulation under the slab, other than that the two houses were the same. His heating bills were within a very few dollars of each other on the two houses. He said he didn't need insulation under the slab on the second house was that it was a well drained soil. If the soil is not well drained the moisture under the slab can conduct or carry the heat away, Most of the houses we do have 8" of radon rock with draintile under the slab, so a person could save on the insulation.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments John. I am not sure I would skip the insulation because like you said the moisture would suck the heat out. It is actually code here in New York to insulate under the concrete but we get real cold winters similar to Maine or Michigan. Well draining soil is always a nice thing no matter what.
@Boscovius2 жыл бұрын
Sand behaves as an insulator. If this was a dry, sandy soil I could see how foam wouldn't make that much of a difference. However, the wet clay in my area acts like a heatsink.
@davebeck31353 жыл бұрын
Nice job Bondo
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave
@stevesullivan2432 Жыл бұрын
Hey guys, nice job on the floor. Are you trolling with float blades for your final pass?
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
We used what's called combo blades for the entire floor and the last pass.
@stevesullivan2432 Жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 ok I gotcha. I have two machines one with float blades, the other finish blades. You've got a great crew and yourself as and owner speaks volumes. Great job
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
@@stevesullivan2432 Thanks bud.
@mikehess81163 жыл бұрын
Was the mesh on chairs to hold it up?
@kylepieschl4563 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing. Mesh will do little good laying in the sand.
@scottbigger19452 жыл бұрын
That bull floater is a potty mouth . Looks real professional in front of customers
@michaelmcclurg96982 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately that wire mesh needs to be up in the pour not at the bottom. The mesh at the bottom is a waste of money.
@frankflanagan1093 жыл бұрын
Turned out great!
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frank
@tcb0693 жыл бұрын
hey bondo , on that job would be cool to show the different heights with the lazor to show the slope after you were done, just an idea , good looking floor by the way
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
I will try and do that next time. Good idea.
@tcb0693 жыл бұрын
thanks
@andersandersen2323 жыл бұрын
this is the right way to do it. so many benefits.👍
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy. How are you my friend?
@andersandersen2323 жыл бұрын
I am doing good. 👍
@jenniferhaasch79613 жыл бұрын
Rap the bottom of the posts with felt, Looks great!
@leonardwilson9802 жыл бұрын
If you didn't have a pump, what was the hose hooked to when you were pouring the right side of the building.
@cmiller80062 жыл бұрын
so was this pad without insulation board? I'm trying to make a case to myself not to do the insulation under the slab.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
No this has 1-1/2" of closed cell spray foam under it. Do yourself a favor and do not skip the foam and do not use some tarp product that claims to work. You will spend a fortune to heat your building and it will not be worth doing the tubing at all. You need closed cell foam board or spray foam under there.
@andycrawford86893 жыл бұрын
Nice job y'all did there keep up with the good work ur doing and the videos to be safe and be careful
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Andy.
@johnmorley66636 ай бұрын
Lost my Dad in January, he was a finisher for 40 years....
@mitchborders84653 жыл бұрын
great video bondo
@settimodifresco43022 жыл бұрын
good work.
@royyazzie60282 жыл бұрын
Got too have a good crew to get things done 👍👏
@francoisbouvier78612 жыл бұрын
Didn't notice, do you use float blades at the beginning?
@markcarpenter6837 Жыл бұрын
How far down is the drain set?
@bondobuilt386 Жыл бұрын
you want like 1-1/2" to 2" pitch to top of drain grate.
@RDJim3 жыл бұрын
Did you still use a metal mesh under the tubing there?
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Yes Jim we did just to hold it
@rubengonzsles3585 Жыл бұрын
We use a floating pan first then hit it with the blades but that machine looks a little small for that job
@jimnorthern95872 жыл бұрын
been at it about 40 years worth of pouring. never did a barn with sides on it unless we had a pump. front load trucks only. rarely ever used the float on a floor. to much downtime waiting for the set. get on it with a couple guys knowing what they're doing, and out there in a couple hours after the pour. not waiting a couple hours set time to get on it. not bragging, we put down 900 yrds in one pour with 6 guys. 4" floor, commercial structure with hand finish......8 hours total time. came back on the job 2 days later and cut it by code.
@ryancap11889 ай бұрын
Not one stop was the mex pulled up 😂😅
@johnaustin90512 жыл бұрын
How many hours of blowing water around. Charge extra? Why no wet/dry vac? Sump pump? Bill 8 hours for a guy to hold a leaf blower......
@Boscovius2 жыл бұрын
I don't really understand what good the wire mesh will have if it isn't embedded closer to the center of the slab.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
It is there in this application to hold the tubing in place and keep it from floating up and becoming damaged. We used fibers for reinforcement in these radiant slabs.
@exotictones10542 жыл бұрын
It's the only way we ever did concrete.most of the time as soon as the poles were set before the roof we poured. Just after headers n lower boards were on so nothing moved.
@tabranch31652 жыл бұрын
🙋🏼♂️ who is pulling up the wire mesh ?
@markhowes1263 жыл бұрын
Nice to see pros pour concrete a little stiffer than normal. Seems like too many pour it self leveling I always question how that effects strength. Where in. Ny are you? Been nice if he had left lowest purlin off. Cost with out concrete?
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark. We like to pour a 5" slump usually. We are in Mexico New York. 45 min north of Syracuse.
@craigclemson96423 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your buy your pex pipe getting ready to build 40 x 60 building thanks mike
@duanewessie7374 Жыл бұрын
Who do you guys use for concrete out where you were at?
@iammattjones Жыл бұрын
I you gotta get these videos uploaded in 1080p or 4k.
@alexanderfarah48682 жыл бұрын
Bondo, do you pull up the rebar/mesh/tubing while pouring? I am setting up to do a 4' slab with radiant heat, if i pull up the mesh I am afraid of cutting the joints and hitting a water line.
@markcarpenter6837 Жыл бұрын
Staple the tubing directly to the foam with a foam stapler. Place the mesh or rebar above.
@kylepieschl4563 жыл бұрын
The wire mesh should at least be pulled up with hooks as the concrete is poured. Properly placed wire mesh holds a slab of dried concrete together, even if the ground underneath settles slightly. Fiberglass strands mainly help keep cracking to a minimum the first few hours of the concrete changing from liquid form to a hard state. After that the fiberglass provides little value in the strength of cured concrete. Also a lot will have to do with how heavy of equipment will be run on the concrete. I did mine with 1/2 inch rebar crisscrossed on 2 ft. centers set on chairs, then wire mesh on top of that with a 7 inch thick pour. Probably overkill on my part but hey!
@chestercalloway38122 жыл бұрын
Oh boy it’s the internet hook patrol again
@gregtaylor83272 жыл бұрын
@@chestercalloway3812 There is no point to mesh if you dont chair or pull it up. Hes just making a valid point. One of my constant arse aches was my placers not caring enough to pull mesh up.
@hankclingingsmith87072 жыл бұрын
WIRE MESH DOES VERY LITTLE TO HELP CONCRETE. CERTAINLY DOES NOT PREVENT CRACKS. REBAR DOES NOT KEEP ALL CRACKS OUT, BUT PROVIDE A STRUCTUALLY SUPERIOR SLAB THAT WILL STAY TOGETHER. ALSO THE USE OF CHAIRS IS A MUST. THERE IS A REASON AN ENGINEER, BUILDING INSPECTORS SPECIFICALLY SPECIFY THIS ON PLANS. IT IS THE BEST WAY.
@gregtaylor83272 жыл бұрын
@@hankclingingsmith8707 Mesh is absolutely essential if your driving on the Concrete.
@williamrogers42902 жыл бұрын
@@gregtaylor8327 You can pull the mesh all you want. It won't stay within the bottom 1/3 of the slab unless it it chaired. I will offer to core the slab and bet that the mesh is directly on top of the insulation.
@metalrooves36512 жыл бұрын
what was the difference again? no rebar?
@jwjco2 жыл бұрын
No steel reinforcement used ?
@darby58773 жыл бұрын
What kind of fiberglass fibers did you use?
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
They were micro fibers
@darby58773 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 I'm developing recycled fiberglass strands about 3/4 inch long
@TruthFactFinder3 жыл бұрын
You can remove standing water with a shop vac way faster than with a leaf blower... LOL
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Ya there was no power there at the building sight. Lol
@db8sell9 ай бұрын
what is the price for a pour like this?
@normhowes29752 жыл бұрын
If l can ever afford a man cave this size I'll give you a call since your in my Palermo area.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Ok Sounds good neighbor. Awesome.
@cafox42753 жыл бұрын
You said you recommend flooding it, what's the reasoning for that?
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Concrete will be stronger if wet cured.
@NSResponder2 жыл бұрын
I've seen foundations and floors for pole barns poured before any framing was done at all. Nothing at all in the way for the concrete pour, tubing in place, and brackets for the poles placed wet.
@farmalmta Жыл бұрын
Just make sure all the load on the floor during subsequent construction doesn't exceed the strength of the concrete, and that tire tracks and flaws in the floor aren't going to be an issue. Never seen a floor put down first that doesn't look grimy and rough by the time everybody is through dropping stuff and wheeling/skidding their equipment and materials around on the new not-fully-hardened concrete.
@Guide5043 жыл бұрын
The mesh is at the bottom with no undercover, sould be around 50mm in the slab.
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
I explained this.
@gjones51533 жыл бұрын
Mesh is only there to hold the tubing in place. They used fiber in the cement
@mattderr10133 жыл бұрын
Hey Ron how long did you make each run of the radiant heat runs
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
I think these were 400 feet. Some say stay under 300 but we have been doing up to 500 with no issues.
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5ike6CXnZWUpK8 watch this video bud.
@tom1966mac3 жыл бұрын
We have done exactly that way with pole barns
@bentousant42872 жыл бұрын
I know the concrete Company you use how would I get ahold of you for possible doing some work for me
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Facebook friend me.
@AndyFromm3 жыл бұрын
Left the steel off for the pour
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Ya it was nice.
@AndyFromm3 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 I bet!
@publicwatchdog24892 жыл бұрын
It’s been my experience to pour the slab first then build the structure.
@scottmaass43292 жыл бұрын
As the floor continues to cure…the pattern will shrink little bit into the floor so in like a week it will look even better. IMO
@John-tq4bf2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron. Do you have any issues with pouring concrete over a spray on insulation base. I heard once of a builder whose only complaint was it made it hard to estimate quantity which I thought was a poor excuse as it really didn't look all that bad.
@jimhendrix77762 жыл бұрын
how's type1 foam work under slab?
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what type 1 foam is. we use closed cell foam under concrete. Definitely do not want open cell foam.
@jimhendrix77762 жыл бұрын
@@bondobuilt386 esp is closed celled right? If the closed celled is rated at 10psi is that 2 little or gud?
@micmike2 жыл бұрын
What time did it take to pour and surface?
@ALT_RIGHT2 жыл бұрын
6:25 the trick is NO SIDING ON BUILDING
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Yup saved a lot of work.
@thomascoyne1572 жыл бұрын
Good way of doing it 👍👍👍🇬🇧uk
@BobBob-lz3li3 жыл бұрын
You know mike is a concrete guy with his cooler of "pepsi"
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
Yes he is. LMAO
@hpw592 жыл бұрын
my guess is you didn't pull your wire up off your insulation....or the wire is sitting on the tubing. Can't tell from the video
@hpw592 жыл бұрын
and you responded to my response later in the video🙂
@davidehrhardt21692 жыл бұрын
Why use mesh if it’s just going to lay on the bottom
@BobBob-lz3li3 жыл бұрын
Never understand why the mesh is underneath the tubes on the foam... not doing much down there
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
It just is a way to hold the tubing and a grid to lay the tubing out on 1' centers. We always add the fibers for extra reinforcement when we have tubing in the floor.
@christophermccrary80802 жыл бұрын
Lots of folks will pull the mesh/tubes up a little, so it's not sitting on the ground
@waynemacquarrie98332 жыл бұрын
Why put cut in the floor? I want to put in a new walk way , with no cuts.
@publicwatchdog24892 жыл бұрын
Cuts are control joints in the odd case Mother Nature decides to heave or settle the disturbed soil, gives you the choice where the cracks are
@deweysanders14619 ай бұрын
How expensive. Looks like a really thick slab
@FireLt20172 жыл бұрын
No steel??
@bobscaduto30702 жыл бұрын
Looks like Mike's drinking a beer. Do you have insurance and workers comp???
@GRUBB-MUDD3 жыл бұрын
Nice shirt, *TRUST ME I KNOW* 20 FOOT BOARD WILL MAKE A MAN OUT OF U! HE CAN KEEP THAT STICK, IM GOOD W THE 16 _LOL_ great idea though! I've used em just don't like em!
@GRUBB-MUDD3 жыл бұрын
Idk, maybe the (I almost said pump but u use that truck all the time) 20 foot stick is different , ohh yeah getting to pour b4 metal make it easy! Do u own that buggy?
@bondobuilt3863 жыл бұрын
@@GRUBB-MUDD That 20 foot screed is a bear. LOL
@concreteislife94112 жыл бұрын
Try spraying WD40 all over your trowels before you start that way it cleans Easyer and your finish had a lot of cat eyes in it, stand your blade up more and keep trowel till it shines unless they didn’t want a shinny finish but yes we normal have the builder leave off the metal.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
good tip with the WD 40 This floor was not burnt on purpose that's what the customer wanted. Chris is a profession finisher and he leaves like no cat eyes though.
@scottmaass43292 жыл бұрын
Also nice job of stopping just right with power trowles. Alot of guys go alittle too far
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Ya it can get slick real fast if you don't know when to stop.
@rmiller2179 Жыл бұрын
HOW DO YOU KNOWWHEN YOU ARE DONE POWER TROWELLING?
@justatim81432 жыл бұрын
You did the floor before the walls were up. At 7:25 don't bend the shuts with your head "LOL"
@MrMarkar19593 жыл бұрын
👍🏼 as long as the builders know the weight limit because fork lift/manlift is needed inside for running conduit and lighting and bummer to crack a line. while back i helped build 60x100 and office space was in floor heating. drive anything industrial hvy duty and look for water leaks.👍🏼 Good Luck
@MrNobody28282 жыл бұрын
I would'nt put the wood posts in the ground or on grade, they rot off in 15 years.
@bondobuilt3862 жыл бұрын
Exactly I hate how they build these barns with wood in the ground.
@NotMe-st8qc2 жыл бұрын
They make plastic sleeves for wood post encased in concrete. I also add an extra coat of copper anole on the wood that will be below ground. Just an fyi
@MrNobody28282 жыл бұрын
@@NotMe-st8qc plastic just holds the water better. Will rot sooner encased in plastic.
@slevinkolebra3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@vandalorian8777 Жыл бұрын
Unless I’m calculating wrong @4 inches it should have been 28 yards
@robertkenney-oles59482 жыл бұрын
Put handles on the screed and save a guy. Easier and faster to have just one guy cut the floor.