HOW LONG WILL A POLE BARN LAST?

[@rayallen2192]

Great team, quality work. This from 44 years in masonry trade . My hat is off to you Sir.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you that means a lot from a veteran like you.

[@bobbray9666]

Never bury wood posts in concrete or ground even when treated. They will rot sooner than you think. The concrete guys should know this if the builder doesn't. Code says don't do it or fail inspection if the inspector looks around here. You can wrap the post bottoms with some waterproof membrane, like I did with my mailbox post, but I wouldn't do that for a building support. You'll be taking the posts out, removing the rotted wood in the concrete, filling the concrete holes with more concrete and adding post base brackets in a few years as the post portion in the concrete will stay wet and disintegrate or watch the supports stop supporting. You can't even support a deck with buried wood posts via code.

[@WorldInANutshell]

and yet this is common practice without the results you describe

[@bobbray9666]

@@WorldInANutshell I have made this repair on treated posts that have rotted.

[@zachstanton6135]

Wood rots and concrete cracks.

[@Bernard32]

Tell that to A Stable Life on KZbin. They're building a hay barn with buried posts surrounded by some concrete. NFG.

[@russell7489]

yup

[@thisismyway]

I will agree with the quality job statement for sure! Your customers are very fortunate to have you provide your services to them. And you are very fortunate to have such a great crew. Merry Christmas!

[@marcconner8382]

This is why I've been watching you so long. You take jobs like this. Creativity and good ole country boy smarts. Good job.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks I love the challenging ones. They make the best videos too.

[@nyla3235]

It was a joy to watch you and your team create this wonderful space that adds to the gentleman's home. I wish I had learned to do this as a young person. This kind of work must bring wonderful satisfaction to your life because you get to see the results of your work quickly. Congrats!

[@bondobuilt386]

Yes it does give us satisfaction.

[@Gman2930]

Ron, thanks for content. Love your videos. Your integrity in your work is outstanding. You NEVER cut corners, and you ALWAYS do the right thing. I hauled concrete for almost 40 years and your work is tops of what I’ve seen. Happy Holidays to you, your family, and your team!!

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you for the kind words. Means a lot.

[@markgassman6252]

You guys do great work. You really have a great crew.

[@mikemarriam]

I always enjoy your jobs. Thanks for taking the time to instruct and share.

[@bondobob21]

The homeowner won the lottery when he found you guys - tremendous work.

[@mikedkc]

So satisfying watching pros work. Great job boys.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks Mike.

[@kmilton1593]

Well, you guys sure know what you are doing. Your construction of the cabin's step foundation was fascinating: The speed-ed up video worked just excellent; we were able to see everything during the construction, and it didn't take a whole hour to watch that part. Really effective way for education. Thanks & cheers.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you

[@jasonsherrill5561]

You guys are great to learn from. Always enjoys your videos… Thanks for putting them out…

[@bondobuilt386]

You're welcome thanks.

[@belowfray5251]

What a sweet dog !!😊

[@amunderdog]

Dang! Your crew is really something, You do good as fearless leader.

[@timothygarland8380]

Your work is awesome! I've got to say Bondo you guys give 💯 percent on every job!

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks Timothy

[@frankponte4031]

Nice work Bondo & Crew!

[@Joeschmo63]

Great job as always. 👍👍

[@MCHorner]

Glad you have the lake cabin. Beautiful view of the river. Great place to relax after a hard day work you guys deserve it.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank You. I love it up there.

[@MCHorner]

@ Those that work with their hands, must rest with their minds. Everybody’s rest is a little different, but I imagine yours is up at the cabin editing videos.

[@CrookedPostQH]

Looks good, guys! 😊

[@yips_way]

That looks fantastic now. Now wonder the owner is pleased, you made that rough as hell area look sharp now. The wall really makes it look like the whole place was built like that originally. 👍 Give Ro a big cuddle for me. 🤗

[@131dyana]

Nice cement work. Loved watching this.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@dh5594]

Concrete, not just cement. Cement is 1 ingredient IN the mix of concrete. Cement+ sand + aggregate (rock)+water= concrete

[@RJM1011]

Looking very good well done and thank you for the video.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks Jim.

[@lmfarms4611]

I love seeing a team work together. In my years working as an aircraft mechanic team work wasn't there, just get the job done.

[@Twotone914]

Great job. I started pouring concrete in 1985 here in florida. Had to retire in 2022 because of severe psoriatic arthritis and I miss it. Here in florida per code we have to use mesh ups under the wire. It sure helps with keeping the wire up. But all the track home builders here are cheap and use fiber mesh. Great job and great videos. Merry Christmas.

[@csehszlovakze]

The climate here is pretty similar to what you have over there in NY, and I've never seen a pole barn here, it's not a thing, and this is why. Stick framing is also a new thing, but it's always on top of a concrete foundation. It's always interesting to see the differences in building procedures.

[@josephsmith7849]

Good morning Bondo n Crew. Great Job as Always 🤙🔥🇺🇸

[@russellgilson4072]

Good looking project Ron and crew

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you.

[@OnusofStrife]

You guys did a good job. If I were the home owner I'd get a structural engineer in there as well to make recommendations and draw up some plans.

[@steveanderson4768]

No, you don’t need a structural engineer for that this guy probably done this enough times where you’ve got it under control, but I did watch this at 7:00 of the video hopefully he wraps everything with some type of an ice and water shield to keep the concrete away from that wood

[@professionalinspectionserv9468]

You do not need a structural engineer to repair or rebuild this. You need a competent contractor that understands structure. I rarely recommend a structural engineer unless it is real bad, on a home not out building.

[@OnusofStrife]

@@professionalinspectionserv9468 Structural engineers are cheap for this sorta stuff in the grand scheme of things. Why wouldn't you for the slightly added cost?

[@MrSprintcat]

Perfect as always, enjoy your Christmas, Ron😊😊

[@bondobuilt386]

Merry Christmas to you too.

[@sethheath9568]

Great job guys. Good crew there.

[@ProjectsWithPaul]

Awesome job! What a great improvement.

[@joehrlein847]

Nice job. Nice cabin with a great view.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@covrtdesign5279]

Sent you a Facebook message about some potential work! Love how that little wall came out to support that pole barn!

[@berinmind]

A crew full of hard working Americans with nobody speaking Spanish is a beautiful thing. Keep crushing

[@neoman7479]

enjoyed seeing the nice job with the front door pad

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank You.

[@gabrieluribe1852]

New Subscriber Cause I like to learn how to do it myself and get tips from KZbinr's like you, And I like how you explain it very well., Great Job 👍

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks for subscribing. Hope my videos help you.

[@cornbreadburgess1950]

Thanks for sharing brother 😁🙏 enjoyed it.

[@ghilreese3413]

Really useful space now. Thanks for the videos.

[@bondobuilt386]

You're welcome and yes it is.

[@randyscrafts8575]

Nice job! In wet ground, less than 20 years those poles will last. My prefrence is put the poles on concrete piers. This place I bought has a pole barn that was built 20 years before I bought it. The center pole on a non-bearing wall is completely rotted/gone. This barn was not a professional build, and it shows. I laugh every time I look at it thinking about fixing it. Its one big cobblejob. A forehead slapper to fix. Tear down & rebuild is what it needs. 😅

[@bondobuilt386]

Put sono tubes in with post brackets. will be a pain to fix though. lol

[@chipmiller9074]

This will be very huge improvement for this building.And don't doubt your capability at all.Really?Happy to see you made it back from hunting.Wish you had a successful hunt and great time.!! Also wish you a merry christmas to you and your family and The crew!!

[@bondobuilt386]

THanks Chip

[@tompumphreykayak]

Wouldn’t submerging the steel sheet metal walls in concrete lead to corrosion? And what would you recommend instead of burying pt posts? Steel anchors bolted to posts above the slab?

[@bojangles_bonjangles8000]

Great camera angle on that mesh. No arrests were made in the shooting of this video.

[@davem3789]

I'm not advocating buried posts. On my shop I used Perma Columns. However, not all treated wood is the same. On going studies have shown 0.60 lb/ft3 CCA (it's still made and you can get it) treated wood in high decay rate locations in good condition over 50 years and counting. Maybe the posts on this shop were poorly treated.

[@bondobuilt386]

I would imagine so but I like the Permacolums or soon tubes.

[@tedwilliams8766]

guys i know wrap their posts in tar paper, pour concrete at the bottom of the holes and bury them in gravel for drainage because no one want to do things twice. ive done floors in 40+ yr old pole barns built with this process and the post were still solid when we did work there. walls like that are always a sketchy pour when you can only set one side. alot of the times with thick, freestanding walls we'll put turnbuckles on for the top kicker with a shorter kicker right under it on the exposed side so if there is movement we can push it back straight. great looking job as usual, guys.

[@jg6142]

Never ending awesome work!

[@thomasgoad3695]

That knee wall saved those posts, learned alot from you.

[@johnlee7085]

No it won’t.

[@garybarkley2286]

Nice job as always guys

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks

[@jameshalliday412]

Great job! Was really hoping to see a car parked at the end, but I suppose that would mean a return trip after the cure. Still…nice work as usual!

[@EdwardTilley]

Amazing transformation really. Nice...

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@gabrieluribe1852]

I don't want to leave a mean comment, But it's not necessarily true when people say that we need migrants to do tough jobs, You got a great crew that knows exactly what they have to do, and they don't stand around for someone to tell them what to do next. they are hard working Men.

[@scottsmith1569]

I'm very pro immigrant, your comment was not the least bit negative or prejudice. His crew always impressed me, I've worked a few years with my brothers concrete business. Let me tell you, this crew right here is a helluva lot better than the folks I used to work with. Bondo just how attitude, how you work so well and treat your employees is awesome. And your love of your lil 4 legged family member says everything about you! 👍👍👍 Thanks for letting us in your would. Always fascinating. Curious tho, since you were kinda your own customer with your lil pad, did you give yourself a beer coozie?? That cabin is a slice of heaven on earth right there!

[@bondobuilt386]

@@scottsmith1569 Thanks for that super nice comment and yes I gave myself a beer coozie with a cold Miller Light in it. LOL

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank you and yes we all work well together like a well oiled machine.

[@tomseals9083]

Looks great 👍 good job 👏

[@goodday5570]

LOOKS GOOD AGAIN

[@AndyFromm]

I tore down my brother's deck a few years ago, his posts looked like that. When I built my deck, I poured concrete and put posts on top.

[@johnlee7085]

Smart move. You could have poured concrete around the rotting post (like this wall) and the post would continue to rot.

[@AndyFromm]

@johnlee7085 I set the old rotting post on my trailer's new wood deck, now I have a spot rotting on that 🤦

[@scottdm9707]

Permacolumns are a nice option too. Precast concrete posts with brackets on top so only the concrete is below grade.

[@AndyFromm]

@@scottdm9707 that looks good for a deck or a pole building repair but while looking into these, I think the cps system or something like that would be better for a new pole building.

[@talmadgewilliams8831]

The problem with after 2010 pressure treated poles is its missing arsenic creosote should have been applied to the bottom in the ground to six inches above the ground line. Even electric poles do this.

[@bondobuilt386]

Or just put it on a concrete pier and not worry about it.

[@PelicanIslandLabs]

I'm a little surprised those barrels of concrete didn't harden up after an hour plus. Congrats to you again!

[@bondobuilt386]

It was quite stiff as you could see. LOL

[@Musclecar1972]

I don’t think that style of pole barn construction will pass code anymore. And you just showed the reason why. I did my addition with concrete piers brought up to grade, with galvanized brackets set in them,and then the 6x6 supports were bracketed to the piers, much better in my opinion. Great Video, as usual! 👍

[@johnlee7085]

Absolutely correct. The rot in the poles will slow with less moisture but unless the rot is removed and remaining wood completely protected, it will rot away. The little wall will be irrelevant because all the building load is coming through the posts where the concrete is thinnest. It’s better than it was, but so sad to put so much effort into something that will fail.

[@saltbeltupstateny4857]

I’ve been building my barns on concrete piers for years a little bit more money, but the customers always appreciated how long their buildings would last..

[@christopherhaak9824]

Correct, does not pass IBC due to rot. Best to use concrete piers with above ground brackets.

[@LaLaLucky7777]

You do realize pole barns are still standing that are 300 years old? And in Europe China and Japan even older! Just making a point! The difference is they used Hard woods baby!!!!

[@Musclecar1972]

@@LaLaLucky7777 Well, next time I go overseas I’ll buy a hardwood Pole barn, lol I understand what you’re saying, but this is about todays procedures, and our materials. And you have to wonder if the soil was as acidic as it is today, I doubt it was, look at the galvanized guard rails today, 50 years ago they stayed perfect a long time, not today! They rust and rot in just a few years. My father had a post and beam barn years ago, the supports weren’t buried in the ground, they were placed on big flat rocks, and it was built from there, and it was 2 1/2 stories, built in the 1800’s. But you’re right the support beams were all hardwood.

[@donnafedorak2499]

The wood poles only rot at ground level or slightly blow. You need moisture, oxygen and bacteria for rot. Typically, pressure treated last around 20 years. They make sleaves that you wrap around the post that you take about 6 inches above ground level and about 1 foot below. These sleaves get wrapped around and then torched. Acts like a tar like shrink-wrap. I think there called post saver pro wrap. HD online has it. This wrap keeps the post from making contact with ground level. This will easily double the pole life if not much longer.

[@talmadgewilliams8831]

Sleeves. Creosote does this. Electric poles have creosote

[@PeteDei]

I e removed telephone poles that were 50 years ole that had creosote placed around them originally and they were perfect , no rot

[@albertorozco5981]

Awesome work. 💯

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@zerkfitting]

Nice slab! I want to do the same thing under my shed roof. Good job boys.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks. It worked nice.

[@geo_walters]

Beautiful work

[@cathiepieszak6967]

You are right about those posts . the stemwall is gonna help the floor but the roof is gonna sag when the rest of the post rot away!

[@bondobuilt386]

It should be fine as it is studded from the slab to the roof and now the slab has the stem wall under it.

[@captainkirk1745]

I wish you guys were working in Eastern NC. Great work! 😃

[@dannyboy2180]

Great job!

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank You

[@ArmourFence]

I was thinking maybe you could have just stuck the truck chute in the curb and poured from the truck and vibrated it? 6 in 1/half dozen in the other. Y'all do great work!!

[@jaywhitehead5294]

I'm looking to replace my rubber boots after Christmas. What brands have you guys had the best luck with?

[@bondobuilt386]

I like Mudd or Muck boots.

[@ArmourFence]

That's a badass little pole barn. Helped my dad build ours like 20 some years ago. I think it was 25x25 or 25x30. Good times in that pole barn!! Not including the outside storage areas. It was pretty big.

[@CHRnorton]

Why would you spend all the money on the building and side lean too and just pile in all the fill and it was not even level, and it allowed the posts to rot?

[@bondobuilt386]

He bought the barn and turned it into a home.

[@ernestlmorellsr]

12/16 2024: may be the next time you should use a concrete viberator to ensure the cement is spread out even, sometimes it will prevent the clumps or the bulging. Man you do good work, really professional.

[@rogerrowsell5926]

Treated fence posts 40 plus years, still standing.

[@bondobuilt386]

Some free draining soils the poles do much better than poor draining clay soils.

[@Digital-Sparks]

It’s worth noting that “treated” lumber today isn’t what it was 40 years ago. The treatment process and chemicals have changed significantly, likely due to environmental regulations, and modern treatments just don’t seem to hold up as well. On top of that, the quality of the wood itself has declined. Today’s lumber often comes from fast-grown plantation trees, which can’t compare to the dense, slow-growing wood we got from old-growth forests in the past. Unfortunately, we’re not comparing apples to apples when we look at modern materials versus what was used decades ago.

[@RickMylbani-n2u]

hahahahahaha yeah not todays pressure treated dummy

[@rickwatson1000]

GREAT WORK

[@bondobuilt386]

Thank You

[@jamesoncross7494]

Happy birthday Biscut!!!!!!

[@garyluck8502]

I saw his posts were starting to rot wouldn’t it help to wrap the post in plastic where dirt and concrete touches the post.??

[@jakeschisler7525]

That's one end wall that shouldn't have a problem with rot.

[@seanoharmaigh]

I see you have not wire-tied the mesh together, maybe that's not important as the mesh is under the concrete and does not give the floor any support.

[@brezzz0077]

Happy Birthday Biscuit

[@joeschwab3194]

Your guys do wonderful work !!!! GM trucks good !!!!!!

[@toddavis8603]

Wow---the mother of all pole barn garages^😂❤😅

[@LaLaLucky7777]

A pole Barn will last over 300 years! Easy if its built right !

[@bondobuilt386]

Yes built with Sono tubes or Parma Columns and wood posts above the ground I agree.

[@bryanbryan7080]

damn you have some relaxed building code there. this would never pass where I live.

[@karlmckinney8469]

Best crew on you tube

[@petersouioui8864]

Been watching your vids and always good videos. Where do I buy the coffee sleeves you just posted on your videos?

[@jackiebinns6205]

Im in love with your pup ❤

[@bondobuilt386]

Me too.

[@tomscott4723]

just another fun day at work!

[@billbarney4937]

i had a garage built with treated lumber no concrete. never again after seeing this. need to add concrete at the base to make it last

[@bondobuilt386]

Yup for sure.

[@randysickler4135]

nice woek! good job!

[@brucewatson8451]

Always a good video. I seem to learn something new every time. A new property we are buying has a shop/barn with a few open bays that have concrete that looks like broomed finish, but I think they finished it with a rake..lol!! For just a shop floor, can this be overlayed/filled and then finished better?? Thanks, Bruce

[@bondobuilt386]

I would remove and repour it.

[@danielstover3029]

Bondo, do you really dislike post frame construction or do you dislike it when someone was cheap, foolish and put posts in the ground? Concrete column in the ground and then posts above will last as long as anything else. Very nice concrete work on this jop. The wall and floor really finished out super. Great video and thanks for sharing... 😁👍

[@bondobuilt386]

Im fine with post frame construction. I live in a hand done timber frame that me and my buddy built but no wood is in the ground. Also my porch beams are black Locust. LOL

[@whiteyih8352]

I really enjoy watching your videos we are in Central Wisconsin kind of work exactly the same way you guys do do you ever make it out of the World of Concrete show

[@charliesmith5849]

What value does the reinforcing wire provide when buried under the concrete? Also, the concern for causing an accident on the road when two trucks are there at the same time can be solved by having both trucks get off the road and pass on the project property!

[@pppjourneyonabike5992]

Nice work

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@jimpence2087]

Isn't this basically a footer for the wall now? Will freeze and thaw affect it?

[@bondobuilt386]

It is a stem wall and yes will act as a footer. No frost because it is inside the enclosed heated shop now.

[@jimpence2087]

@bondobuilt386 . Thank you. That makes sense

[@tracy.mankey4562]

All ways professional work ❤

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks.

[@mmgobey]

Looks good

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks

[@marcuscicero9587]

I could watch that guy operate that excavator all day long.

[@bondobuilt386]

Thanks thats me. 😀

[@joemomma4482]

I’m no concrete guy, but it didn’t look like that wire was getting pulled up much is it really doing any good?

[@pc73]

You're not wrong.

[@highlorddarkstar]

You don’t want the wire very high, it’s meant to be in the bottom third of the slab. It acts in tension against forces trying to bend the concrete.

[@ArmourFence]

He said descent size curb,....THAT CURB IS HUGE BROTHER!! 👍👍👌👌👊👊

[@falfas55bgas]

So you didn't cut off the rotten posts and pour the wall underneath? And then secure the posts to the stem wall with large angle brackets? Didn't look like enough rebar or properly caged.

[@sheldongilbert808]

Awesome job as usual.

[@JohnOxford-zc8jm]

This rotting condition would be eliminated by coating the below grade wooden post with plastic roof cement. Water can’t get at the wood. Lay a coat on using a 3” blade, trowel for Sheetrock mud works great. Yes it takes a little time but by no means ridiculous. I’ve used this method when I lived in Oswego and in South Carolina. Always worked, if you covered the whole surface.

[@TB-sw1tf]

Why no rebar in the floor? asking to learn....